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Crome pro and antilag
« on: October 07, 2009, 12:04:53 AM »

So I've started to mess up with "Standstill boost generator" aka antilag in Crome pro, but I'm not sure what to put in "Timing retard" and "Fuel enrichment".

I've read on google values from 1 to 16 degree and nothing about fuel.

I tried 6degree retard and 22 microseconds enrichment, but almost no boost was generated.

I think it need more enrichment, but before I blow up something I figure I'd ask what you use...

Thanks!
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Re: Crome pro and antilag
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2009, 12:11:09 AM »

pull more timing

I added about 7% fuel over what it was in the RPM range where antilag was set

play with it, with no load on the motor it is much less likely for it to blow up, mine was bouncing on antilag for a couple of minutes until i figured out what setting made the most boost lol
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Re: Crome pro and antilag
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2009, 12:25:17 AM »

Ok, I'll have to find a place where I can stay and make noise lol

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Re: Crome pro and antilag
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2009, 12:29:20 AM »

i did iit in autozone parking lot the mexicans were all like  :mexi: mui bien
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Re: Crome pro and antilag
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2009, 07:38:35 AM »

lol

I'll do it at Canadian Tire, parking is hella big and no one will care...
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Re: Crome pro and antilag
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2009, 03:26:27 PM »

what about crome free? Dose it have the same settings? I havent looked into antilag to much yet. But oonce im boosted it will be a needed item!
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Re: Crome pro and antilag
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2009, 03:44:07 PM »

i usually start at -40 deg and 250 enrichment but know that you are tosting your exhaust valves turbing and exhaust manifold like marshmellows. the car should be tuned before antilag is set if your running a basemap with a 10afr enriching will only flood things worse.
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Re: Crome pro and antilag
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2009, 04:03:21 PM »

what about crome free? Dose it have the same settings? I havent looked into antilag to much yet. But oonce im boosted it will be a needed item!

crome free doesnt have it, however if you are vtec you can trick it into antilag

http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php?topic=4216.0

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Re: Crome pro and antilag
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2009, 08:00:41 PM »

i usually start at -40 deg and 250 enrichment but know that you are tosting your exhaust valves turbing and exhaust manifold like marshmellows. the car should be tuned before antilag is set if your running a basemap with a 10afr enriching will only flood things worse.
i did -40* and 1400ms fuel, still lean but i rocked it anyways  :noel:
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Re: Crome pro and antilag
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2009, 08:02:40 PM »

i usually start at -40 deg and 250 enrichment but know that you are tosting your exhaust valves turbing and exhaust manifold like marshmellows. the car should be tuned before antilag is set if your running a basemap with a 10afr enriching will only flood things worse.
i did -40* and 1400ms fuel, still lean but i rocked it anyways  :noel:

how rich/lean is it suposed to be when poping on antilag?
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Re: Crome pro and antilag
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2009, 08:45:24 PM »

i usually start at -40 deg and 250 enrichment but know that you are tosting your exhaust valves turbing and exhaust manifold like marshmellows. the car should be tuned before antilag is set if your running a basemap with a 10afr enriching will only flood things worse.
i did -40* and 1400ms fuel, still lean but i rocked it anyways  :noel:

how rich/lean is it suposed to be when poping on antilag?
hell if i know. it was bouncing all over the place from 9-15.

shitty video, broke the 3rd gear shift fork going into 3rd, couldnt get the fucker in. gotta turn the volume up a bit, sounds cool though

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Re: Crome pro and antilag
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2009, 03:11:37 AM »

with ectune, i used -40 timing, 12 fuel. 

it built so much boost it would hit boost cut in less than 2 seconds.  shit was crazy

dialing back the timing and lowering the antilag rpm helped keep the boost down on antilag. 





i launch without antilag now and am starting to pull 1.6 60's consistently.  unless u got 26inch slicks i wouldnt bother.
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Re: Crome pro and antilag
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2009, 05:09:35 AM »

I use 6 degrees staic retard in ectune and 120 fuel value... It makes JDM fags jump plug there ears and pee themselves a bit
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Re: Crome pro and antilag
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2009, 05:18:39 AM »

looking at my map im at -6* retard and 460ms fuel. . . hmmm might play with it a bit more and lean it out much more to see how it likes it
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Re: Crome pro and antilag
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2009, 10:07:20 PM »

i also notice that with ectune antilag works a hell of alot better compaired to crome. BDV ignition cut only at 3k launch control FTMFW
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Re: Crome pro and antilag
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2009, 10:09:36 PM »

i also notice that with ectune antilag works a hell of alot better compaired to crome. BDV ignition cut only at 3k launch control FTMFW

agreed ECTUNE compared to crome sounds and launches like absolute rape compared to crome
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Re: Crome pro and antilag
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2009, 10:16:09 PM »

i also notice that with ectune antilag works a hell of alot better compaired to crome. BDV ignition cut only at 3k launch control FTMFW

agreed ECTUNE compared to crome sounds and launches like absolute rape compared to crome

I also noticed that when I was looking at videos on youtube. On a race car I guess its important, but on a daily driver crome do the job well I believe.
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Re: Crome pro and antilag
« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2009, 10:21:45 PM »

i also notice that with ectune antilag works a hell of alot better compaired to crome. BDV ignition cut only at 3k launch control FTMFW

agreed ECTUNE compared to crome sounds and launches like absolute rape compared to crome

I also noticed that when I was looking at videos on youtube. On a race car I guess its important, but on a daily driver crome do the job well I believe.

ectune antilag scares the ricers and dubs away better, sounds like an AK going off lol
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Re: Crome pro and antilag
« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2009, 10:44:18 PM »

Yeah, but I like it the sleeper way, like my car  :yes:

ectune antilag sound fucking awesome tho!  :noel:
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Re: Crome pro and antilag
« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2009, 10:15:25 AM »

Timing is crude boost control, fuel is fine boost control.  Or maybe it was the other way around?   :mexi:

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Re: Crome pro and antilag
« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2009, 01:28:11 AM »

did a bunch of reading, what kind of revlimiter are you using ign. or fuel or both?

i played with ectune today a bit (pure seks) and using ign. cut only i added 10fv and 35 retard

pops like CRAZY and has nice flame and instant <2 sec spool

from me messing around with it, if your using fuel cut you need to dump a binch more in, but of just ign. its already got enough gas just needs some retard is all

play with it and see how it works for you, GL

ill keep messing with it friday when i get some time and let you know
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Re: Crome pro and antilag
« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2009, 10:12:46 AM »

I'm about to buy eCtune too. I haven't tried very hard, but I can't get Crome to build boost, even with very high value of timing and fuel. It builds maybe 1psi...

ECtune is supporting well Ostrich right? Not only Demon?

I tried the free version of eCtune which is supposed to be a datalogger and I can't get it to work. Always tell me that the Demon is not connected or that J12 is not cut. I only want to log, not tune damn it. The cable works well on any other datalogger.

I just want to be sure that everything works before I buy it.


I can't choose the kind of revlimiter in Crome and I'm not sure what kind it is.

If I understand correctly, the ignition cut should be better because you continue to put gas in the cylinder, the gas goes out of the exhaust valve. Next step, ignition won't be cut but retarded and you put more fuel aka big back fire.

On the other hand cut with fuel, you'll need to put much more fuel and maybe more retard on the ignition to let the gas ignite in and out of the cylinder.


Let me know how well it works for you. Anyway I don't plan to play with it today...







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Re: Crome pro and antilag
« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2009, 10:42:09 AM »

I tried the free version of eCtune which is supposed to be a datalogger and I can't get it to work. Always tell me that the Demon is not connected or that J12 is not cut. I only want to log, not tune damn it. The cable works well on any other datalogger.
The free version of ectune is for people that are running ectune either a chip via authorized tuner, or their own licensed ostrich.
You can connect any laptop with the free version and datalog without having to use the licensed laptop.
Pretty sure the protocol would be different than other software such as crome or uber
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Re: Crome pro and antilag
« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2009, 11:34:39 AM »

free EcTune where?
I want to try it before I buy it. ;)

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Re: Crome pro and antilag
« Reply #24 on: October 29, 2009, 04:55:10 PM »

I tried the free version of eCtune which is supposed to be a datalogger and I can't get it to work. Always tell me that the Demon is not connected or that J12 is not cut. I only want to log, not tune damn it. The cable works well on any other datalogger.
The free version of ectune is for people that are running ectune either a chip via authorized tuner, or their own licensed ostrich.
You can connect any laptop with the free version and datalog without having to use the licensed laptop.
Pretty sure the protocol would be different than other software such as crome or uber

On eCtune website lol But you can't do anything.

http://websrv.ectune.com/ectune.setup.current.zip

I thought it was a datalogger period, not just for ectune ECU, that explain a lot :P
http://www.ectune.com/eCtune/Versions/Datalogger/tabid/69/Default.aspx 



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Re: Crome pro and antilag
« Reply #25 on: October 29, 2009, 06:39:01 PM »

I'm about to buy eCtune too. I haven't tried very hard, but I can't get Crome to build boost, even with very high value of timing and fuel. It builds maybe 1psi...
what? how are you not building boost? are you using the Gold rom with "Standstill Boost Generator"?
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Re: Crome pro and antilag
« Reply #26 on: October 29, 2009, 07:45:58 PM »

Yes gold rom, but I've pull 42 degree and 601ms and still nothing other than stand :-\

I don't say it would never work. But I had no time to test it again. Last time car was overheating after some tries so I stoped.
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Re: Crome pro and antilag
« Reply #27 on: October 29, 2009, 07:48:54 PM »

By the way, it's not only because of the boost generator that I want eCtune. It looks just too awesome.
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Re: Crome pro and antilag
« Reply #28 on: October 29, 2009, 09:30:49 PM »

By the way, it's not only because of the boost generator that I want eCtune. It looks just too awesome.
shit just works on it i like that lol

4200rpm
50rpm resume
2 fuel value
40* retard
ign. cut no fuel
building 8psi

fried it at 5500 but with more fuel and a larger gap between cut and reusme, almost lit my biddy on fire who was dumb enough to stand behind it, building 12psi no vid of this :(


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Re: Crome pro and antilag
« Reply #29 on: November 01, 2009, 05:36:14 PM »

TE?  :?:
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