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General Category => Forced Induction => Topic started by: 79fairmont on September 03, 2009, 08:05:20 PM

Title: My turbo 342 build(updated again new numbers and dyno vid)
Post by: 79fairmont on September 03, 2009, 08:05:20 PM
Added turbonetics 76mm turbo, bigger throttle body and a little more boost.  555 hp and 579 torque thru the aod.
turb342.wmv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk77Z2Mw_uU#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)




Forged pistons,eagle stroker crank and rods, comp link bar solid roller lifters, custom turbo cam
dur @ .050 int 237   ex 243
gross lift int .625      ex .609
lobe separation 114
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Victor jr heads, arp studs, fel pro gaskets, k-motion springs
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Harland sharp rockers, trick flow lower, 80lb injectors,
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Boost brothers turbo kit with their t-67 turbo. Gonna get upgraded to a mp t-76
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Title: Re: My turbo 342 build
Post by: 92CXyD on September 03, 2009, 08:08:07 PM
Sweet I have this build bookmarked.

I want to do something similar to '82 'stang GT w/ 5.0L
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build
Post by: brine04 on September 03, 2009, 08:28:49 PM
Sweet I can't wait to build something v8 turbo rwd.
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build
Post by: dvst8r on September 03, 2009, 08:30:36 PM
Sweet I can't wait to finish something...  :-*

Fixed
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build
Post by: brine04 on September 03, 2009, 08:36:33 PM
Sweet I can't wait to finish something...  :-*

Fixed
Pot --------> Kettle
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build
Post by: Sinister on September 06, 2009, 01:58:42 PM
Is this going in that newer stang of yours or which one? I should swing by sometime and you can show me the build  :noel: :yes:
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build
Post by: Joseph Davis on September 06, 2009, 02:03:41 PM
SN95 car, or are you making the BB kit fit something else?

I really liked their hot piping for that kit, aside from forcing the MAF to be inline.  I've been tempted to call them and try to get it by itself and put realy hardware on it.
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build
Post by: 79fairmont on September 07, 2009, 05:53:29 PM
This is going into my 95. So far the piping does seem really nice. Its hard to beat for the price to. It really doesn't seem like the typical chinese stuff.
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build
Post by: Joseph Davis on September 07, 2009, 07:56:33 PM
BB has some stuff for BMWs that make the early crackalicious SSAC stuff for Hondas look good, if I hadn't seen the SN95 kit in person I'd be deriding it.  That, and the harmonic balance of a V8 helps keep the manifolds in one piece where dynamically unbalanced 4 cyl vibrate them apart. 

FYI, the car I tuned with that kit had an E-cam, but stock fuel pump.  On wastegate he was running out of fuel past 5500 rpms, so we set the revlimit at 5300 rpms and told the guy to come back when he had more money.  I forget the 1/8th mile ETs (poor, with 2.2+ 60'), but it's trapped 99 mph like that.  I think you'll be pleased with how the car turns out on the china snail.

Title: Re: My turbo 342 build
Post by: 79fairmont on September 07, 2009, 08:53:38 PM
Anywhere above 500 horse on this car would make me smile! I've got a glenn's performance sumped sleeper tank allready in the car and I'm going to be running twin 255 pumps so I should not have any fueling issues. I've allready got -8 feed lines in this car.
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build
Post by: turbob16hatch on September 09, 2009, 12:26:37 AM
Is it just me or do almost all v8's run headers with stamped collectors? is it that much harder to run/build a standard merge?
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build
Post by: Joseph Davis on September 09, 2009, 12:41:58 AM
It's pretty irrelevant to those guys when it's not hard to get power out of all that displacement.  Unless you drop the ball completely and don't give the motor any timing. 
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build
Post by: Corey on September 09, 2009, 12:51:27 AM
Is it just me or do almost all v8's run headers with stamped collectors? is it that much harder to run/build a standard merge?

thats how it is unless youre dealing with huge dollar manifolds.
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build
Post by: 79fairmont on September 09, 2009, 12:59:11 AM
Timing is key! Keeping this one from making 500 should be the challenge. That and keeping the wimpy block in one piece.
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build
Post by: Joseph Davis on September 09, 2009, 01:05:41 AM
Mex block, or regular?  Going with a $$ block or a 351W when this one splits down the middle?
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build
Post by: 92CXyD on September 09, 2009, 08:04:36 AM
Mex block, or regular?  Going with a $$ block or a 351W when this one splits down the middle?

Yeah I remember reading about these blocks making more than 500bhp and seeing huge cracks in valley of the block.
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Ouch  :?:

I may have too find a good 351w for '82 'stang GT if I want any real power. :'(
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build
Post by: 79fairmont on September 09, 2009, 08:20:48 AM
Stock block for now future plans are to go with something beefier.
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build
Post by: ratcityrex on September 09, 2009, 02:18:57 PM
I thought the stock blocks were good to 600? Maybe its 500 wheel hp.
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build
Post by: brine04 on September 09, 2009, 09:06:27 PM
Are the Windsor blocks actually any stronger?
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build
Post by: 92CXyD on September 09, 2009, 09:48:36 PM
302 is a windsor and the 351 are also windsors, but the block is taller and more reinforced. ;D
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build
Post by: 79fairmont on September 09, 2009, 10:53:24 PM
Not bad at all! She got any single of age friends?
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build
Post by: brine04 on September 09, 2009, 11:10:19 PM
302 is a windsor and the 351 are also windsors, but the block is taller and more reinforced. ;D

I realize they are very similar hence I asked if they hold power better.
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build
Post by: 79fairmont on September 10, 2009, 12:17:27 AM
The 351 windsor blocks are stronger in general and the early ones are the strongest but that rule even works on 302's. Mexican 302 blocks are some of the strongest factory ones. Unlike in chevy land where mexican block = junk.
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build
Post by: Joseph Davis on September 10, 2009, 12:36:15 AM
After '69 the 302 blocks were weak.  People make a big deal about the lightening campaign of '85, but that was an intelliegent weight reduction and the blocks aren't really any weaker after '85.  The general rule of thumb is 450 is the safe limit of a regular block, but it's really the wild west and some people get 600 out of them for a while. 

Goforth's Procharged 5.0 broke the harmonic balancer off of the front of the motor, as well as part of the timing cover area.  He went back with a Mexican (nodular iron) block, made 621 whp Dynojet numbers.  Pretty stout car, held together for a while.  Stolen over a decade ago, he won't even break out the pictures of it because it makes him sad. 

A lot of the SBF stuff is getting inexpensive, and I like the cars a good bit.  The torque and the breadth of the usable powerband is impressive and really slings the car down the road.  I feel less safe in your average okay suspension V8 car than I do in a rickety overpowered FWD, but the cars that hook really well and do so in a stable fashion are AWESOME to ride in.  I'd love to see more build threads like these on RHMT.
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build
Post by: 92CXyD on September 10, 2009, 08:45:20 AM
I'd love to see more build threads like these on RHMT.

+1 w/ blow through carb setups so can learn more about building '82 stang w/o bouncing around the Ford/Mustang/5.0l forumns.
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build
Post by: HiProfile on September 10, 2009, 07:52:27 PM
My friend did it the smart way, notchback + [his scrapped camero's] built LS1. The T78 gets 5psi by ~3200rpm, but fucking rips it up. It used to be a stock block cracking 500 with spray (in the f-body), and he says the turbo setup feels far more ballsy, even considering the weight reduction.
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build
Post by: 79fairmont on September 15, 2009, 12:06:42 AM
Engine is in, Built lentech aod is in, Got most of the efi harness in, Most of the turbo kit on.
I'll throw up some nice high quality cell phone camera pics.
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Title: Re: My turbo 342 build
Post by: Minor Threat on September 15, 2009, 07:29:20 AM
Good luck with the junk lentech AOD, they're local to me.
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build
Post by: 79fairmont on September 15, 2009, 10:14:12 PM
Out here they have a decent reputation. No worse than any other trans company. I've seen and broken almost everything out there. Anything specific to watch out for with the lentech?
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build
Post by: Minor Threat on September 16, 2009, 01:08:05 AM
Depends on what you bought, and what features it's supposed to have.

Anything that let's you shift 1-3 and then activate the AOD separately tends to just, not work right.

It seems to be 50/50 locally whether or not they work, and about the same result on YB.
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build
Post by: 79fairmont on November 07, 2009, 01:47:41 AM
Well we finally got it in the car and running! This run was at 7 psi of boost from a 67mm turbo, with 15-16 degrees of timing thru an aod! Theres quite a bit left in the car but the owner (me) is getting nervous and we'll probably not push it alot further maybe a little higher in the rpm range to see where it levels out.
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Title: Re: My turbo 342 build(updated with numbers)
Post by: 92CXyD on November 07, 2009, 02:17:35 AM
nice  ;D
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build(updated with numbers)
Post by: Joseph Davis on November 07, 2009, 03:01:15 AM
That's torque delivery.
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build(updated with numbers)
Post by: 79fairmont on November 07, 2009, 04:28:45 PM
I still have a stock fox throttle body on it too.. I need to finish up a few things and cam designer says cam will make power to 6500 and it looks like it will, I'll update numbers after we make a few more pulls with it.
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build(updated with numbers)
Post by: patsmx5 on November 07, 2009, 04:39:20 PM
Looks badass, damn that torque LINE.

On a side note, I have a few 302's, one's a 68 block, other a 67. Just threw away 68' 289 that was locked up this summer. HEAVY damn engine.

Title: Re: My turbo 342 build(updated with numbers)
Post by: 90turboteg on November 07, 2009, 11:49:37 PM
Looks badass, damn that torque LINE.

On a side note, I have a few 302's, one's a 68 block, other a 67. Just threw away 68' 289 that was locked up this summer. HEAVY damn engine.



ya i have a 85 4 eye fox with a mildly built 289 out of a 68 mustang, idk what kind of power those blocks can take, if its not much then i was going to go with a mexican block or the mod 4.6 thats been siting forever at my shop... anyone know anything about 289s? 
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build(updated with numbers)
Post by: Joseph Davis on November 08, 2009, 11:20:39 AM
289 and 283 were thick walled beasts

As were pre-69 302.  Much better than mexican block hype.
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build(updated with numbers)
Post by: Joseph Davis on November 08, 2009, 11:54:59 PM
My hatred of minorities only extends to the French, and slavic women's sexual ethics, Jon.  Leave my brown skinned Southern nog brothers out of this.
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build(updated with numbers)
Post by: 90turboteg on November 09, 2009, 12:35:54 AM
think my 4 eye fox with the 289 needs a hx55 then :noel: has a forged bottom end eagle stroker kit and bored over .020 has cast iron heads and roller rockers, plus the demon carb is blow threw ready....
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build(updated with numbers)
Post by: 79fairmont on November 09, 2009, 07:23:15 PM
Fuck that demon carb! I messed with one a customer brought in a while back on a blow thru sbc nothing but issues. Had to rework the whole carb almost. Everything else looks good though!
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build(updated with numbers)
Post by: ochoa on November 10, 2009, 04:15:22 AM
Love the setup. Wanna do a similar build to my 88gt starting this summer. I only wanna do it once thought, My friend who works at a shop said hes seen many  :mexi: block pushed past 500 split I guess they make anchors that hold it all together, but im saving up sor some high $ mill maybe a Dart. Right now im switching the car to carb so I will prolly go with a blow thru setup
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build(updated again new numbers and dyno vid)
Post by: 79fairmont on May 10, 2010, 10:43:02 PM
New numbers and vid in first post.
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build(updated again new numbers and dyno vid)
Post by: keelay on May 10, 2010, 11:13:04 PM
289 and 283 were thick walled beasts

As were pre-69 302.  Much better than mexican block hype.

QFT, C9 and before is where it's at
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build(updated again new numbers and dyno vid)
Post by: Joseph Davis on May 10, 2010, 11:35:56 PM
Tick tock tick tock...   O0
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build(updated again new numbers and dyno vid)
Post by: runsfromdacops on May 10, 2010, 11:40:06 PM
i love this build,and would love to do something simaler soon. O0
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build(updated again new numbers and dyno vid)
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on May 11, 2010, 12:42:53 AM
Alex is the new trollomatic
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build(updated again new numbers and dyno vid)
Post by: 79fairmont on May 11, 2010, 07:26:47 PM
My only question is will this block outlast bigdaddyvtec's transmission.
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build(updated again new numbers and dyno vid)
Post by: Joseph Davis on May 11, 2010, 07:29:28 PM
Not if he blows it.   O0
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build(updated again new numbers and dyno vid)
Post by: runsfromdacops on May 12, 2010, 02:31:26 AM
Alex is the new trollomatic

shit your worse then me. and im the jobless one....

ps this thing rocks
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build(updated again new numbers and dyno vid)
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on May 12, 2010, 02:53:07 AM
My only question is will this block outlast bigdaddyvtec's transmission.

8.5 months and counting, ut im taking it out to freshen it up for the summer in the next couple weeks
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build(updated again new numbers and dyno vid)
Post by: Cadracer on May 12, 2010, 03:17:37 AM
I have a 351 midland block fully deck line bores and all surfaced trued. Got it in a bunch of stuff i bought have the complete rebuild kit for it and some nice v/c and oil pan. Let me know if your interested
Title: Re: My turbo 342 build(updated again new numbers and dyno vid)
Post by: 79fairmont on May 13, 2010, 09:35:32 PM
If it was a windsor I would be interested.