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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: potatodude on January 22, 2010, 12:20:00 AM

Title: my brain hurts.
Post by: potatodude on January 22, 2010, 12:20:00 AM
So I've been doing homework all day and now im doing a math test.
Can anyone confirm if x2 +7x-9 is prime? Pretty sure it is as i cant think of a way to factor it, but im going on 30 hours with no sleep so it wont hurt to double check.
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Post by: Teg2boo on January 22, 2010, 12:25:12 AM
Why don't you use Maple, Matlab or any other software?
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Post by: jagojon3 on January 22, 2010, 12:26:49 AM
X2+4

then divide
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Post by: drivin96 on January 22, 2010, 12:27:19 AM
do they give u the value of x or are u supposed to figure it out as is ?
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Post by: jagojon3 on January 22, 2010, 12:28:24 AM
x is always 9
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Post by: Teg2boo on January 22, 2010, 12:30:09 AM
In real life, it's very useful to know what are prime numbers. Really.
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Post by: potatodude on January 22, 2010, 12:30:35 AM
do they give u the value of x or are u supposed to figure it out as is ?


Its factoring, you dont need the value of x nor do they provide it.
Title: Re: my brain hurts.
Post by: jagojon3 on January 22, 2010, 12:34:41 AM
Only 2 ways to get nine by multiplying: 9 and 1 or 3 and 3.

COME ON

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Post by: JACER63 on January 22, 2010, 12:42:23 AM
^^^^ nerds
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Post by: 92CXyD on January 22, 2010, 12:44:01 AM
Why don't you use Maple, Matlab or any other software?

Funny you mention that I have Maple 10 and Maple 11 like the software for some simulation.
Title: Re: my brain hurts.
Post by: potatodude on January 22, 2010, 12:44:39 AM
Prime it is.
Title: Re: my brain hurts.
Post by: Teg2boo on January 22, 2010, 12:48:35 AM
Why don't you use Maple, Matlab or any other software?

Funny you mention that I have Maple 10 and Maple 11 like the software for some simulation.

Didn't know Maple 11 was out. Maple is a nice math tool.

Matlab is fucking powerful too! So polyvalent.
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Post by: 92CXyD on January 22, 2010, 12:49:38 AM
Hell go to Maplesoft.com they already have Maple 12 out. ;D
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Post by: bryantaylor on January 22, 2010, 12:51:26 AM
fuck man, just pick C.
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Post by: 92CXyD on January 22, 2010, 12:53:59 AM
Shit just check they already have Maple 13 out damn. ;D

I'm getting behind.
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Post by: Teg2boo on January 22, 2010, 01:07:37 AM
Shit just check they already have Maple 13 out damn. ;D

I'm getting behind.

Seriously, when I started to learn Maple it was like version 6 or 7 (or less?) lol

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Post by: snm95ls on January 22, 2010, 01:14:59 AM
Eh, I'd probably use synthetic division to show that you will always have a remainder, thus making your original expression prime.

I could be way off base here, but it makes sense to me, and I am sure there is a simpler way.


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Post by: Kain on January 22, 2010, 01:20:40 AM
its eaiser if you write it like this



integral_(1/2 (-7-sqrt(85)))^(1/2 (-7+sqrt(85)))(-9+7 x+x^2) theta(9-7 x-x^2) dx  =  -(85 sqrt(85))/6 ~~ -130.6102
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Post by: t_cel_t on January 22, 2010, 04:34:37 AM
im sorry but what fucking math is this?
ive done up to calc 3, is this the bullshit in linear algebra/DE?
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Post by: potatodude on January 22, 2010, 05:06:22 AM
im sorry but what fucking math is this?
ive done up to calc 3, is this the bullshit in linear algebra/DE?

college math 101 or some such thing. Haven't taken a math class since my sophomore year in high school, which was like four years ago, so i'm a tad rusty, that combined with lack of sleep going on 35 hours now, makes me a little slow.
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Post by: 92CXyD on January 22, 2010, 10:26:26 AM
By applying the Quadratic formula you get two possible ans.: -15/2, 2/2.

Since prime numbers are positive integers that then the ans is one get one prime number and a negative rational number.
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Post by: drivin96 on January 22, 2010, 11:18:52 AM
im sorry but what fucking math is this?
ive done up to calc 3, is this the bullshit in linear algebra/DE?

college math 101 or some such thing. Haven't taken a math class since my sophomore year in high school, which was like four years ago, so i'm a tad rusty,

im in the same boat as u but i'v only been out for 2years but all this stuff looks new to me , and my final is in 4 weeks  :-\
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Post by: 92CXyD on January 22, 2010, 11:29:06 AM
When I worked in a math lab, for a semester, I would see a whole bunch of problems with teachers that would word things weird (as though the student was on same wavelength as the teacher) and confuse the students on simple problems.

My job would be to translate the crap the the teacher assigned to the student. :?:

Then I would be able help explain the problem. ;D

Try being out of school for 8yrs. then jump into Calc.I.
I did it successfully but I had to spend a lot time studying in the math lab.

And after 2.5yrs I have an A.S.Mathematics, A.S.Physics, and A.S. Engineering degrees. ;D
Title: Re: my brain hurts.
Post by: bigwig on January 22, 2010, 10:35:29 PM
It's one thing to be not know math, its another not to know how to use google.  It's also a bit of bullshit that you can't be bothered to write out the answer correctly.

x^2+7x-9=0 is what you should have typed.

http://www.mathwarehouse.com/quadratic/quadratic-formula-calculator.php (http://www.mathwarehouse.com/quadratic/quadratic-formula-calculator.php)

So no, the answers are not prime.
Title: Re: my brain hurts.
Post by: snm95ls on January 22, 2010, 11:52:52 PM
I don't think the question is whether the factors are prime, but whether the polynomial itself is prime

Not every expression in math is an equation.


Title: Re: my brain hurts.
Post by: potatodude on January 23, 2010, 12:10:57 AM
It's one thing to be not know math, its another not to know how to use google.  It's also a bit of bullshit that you can't be bothered to write out the answer correctly.

x^2+7x-9=0 is what you should have typed.

http://www.mathwarehouse.com/quadratic/quadratic-formula-calculator.php (http://www.mathwarehouse.com/quadratic/quadratic-formula-calculator.php)

So no, the answers are not prime.

Its one thing to be not know English, its another to misunderstand the question.
The question is not whether the answers are prime, as there are no answers, thus why i didn't put an equal sign. If it had been equal to zero i would have put that, so please don't assume you possess intelligence when clearly you are lacking.


I don't think the question is whether the factors are prime, but whether the polynomial itself is prime



Correct, which it is.
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Post by: Teg2boo on January 23, 2010, 12:56:06 AM
Potatozing!
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Post by: t_cel_t on January 23, 2010, 09:02:22 AM
of fuck that easy as shit, the =0 part is kinda important.