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General Category => Hybrid/Tech => Topic started by: snm95ls on April 27, 2010, 02:08:50 PM

Title: Anyone happne to know the length of B18C headstuds?
Post by: snm95ls on April 27, 2010, 02:08:50 PM
I just picked up a set of used ARP headstuds for a future build, and they are the same length as the "B16A" headstuds that I bought several years back as an open box item.

Didn't know if anyone had a set laying around that they could measure.

Title: Re: Anyone happne to know the length of B18C headstuds?
Post by: Jorsher on April 27, 2010, 02:33:45 PM
Don't have a specific answer for you but I did find this:
http://www.k20tuned.com/xcart/product.php?productid=337&cat=0&page=5 (http://www.k20tuned.com/xcart/product.php?productid=337&cat=0&page=5)

Wouldn't hurt to try them out.  I know the B18 block is taller but maybe the B16 ones were just longer than necessary.
Title: Re: Anyone happne to know the length of B18C headstuds?
Post by: BigJ on April 28, 2010, 10:33:33 PM
Is it a B18C5 aka R? If so then they are the same as a B16A/B head.

If it is a GSR B18C then two of the studs will be short. You can buy seperates from ARP.
Title: Re: Anyone happne to know the length of B18C headstuds?
Post by: snm95ls on April 28, 2010, 10:41:19 PM
Is it a B18C5 aka R? If so then they are the same as a B16A/B head.

If it is a GSR B18C then two of the studs will be short. You can buy seperates from ARP.

I don't think you have a clue what you are talking about.

Last time I checked, the B18C5 has the same damn deck height as any other B18C block.

Thanks for the no help though.

Title: Re: Anyone happne to know the length of B18C headstuds?
Post by: BigJ on April 28, 2010, 11:26:04 PM
Is it a B18C5 aka R? If so then they are the same as a B16A/B head.

If it is a GSR B18C then two of the studs will be short. You can buy seperates from ARP.

I don't think you have a clue what you are talking about.

Last time I checked, the B18C5 has the same damn deck height as any other B18C block.

Thanks for the no help though.


Deckheight has nothing to do with it. That is why ARP sells the same kit for B16A/B and B18C5. So what if the block is higher, the bolt goes through the head. The B18C GSR head is a different cast and thus different bolts regardless of the deck height.

B18C5 /B16 part no 208-4303
B18C1 Part no 208-4601

The two center bolts are different on the GSR head, about 1 cm longer IIRC.

It's called a head stud. The head gets bolted to the block. The block is bored for headstuds with respect to the top of the deck, not the oilpan. The stud hole depth is static regardless of total shortblock height.

Get your facts straight before you flame   :?:

Thanks for your fail

Title: Re: Anyone happne to know the length of B18C headstuds?
Post by: snm95ls on April 29, 2010, 12:00:58 AM
Ok.

Pretty sure B18A/B is the one with the two longer studs in the middle, not GSR, but you know it all.

 :?:


Both the B18C1 and B18C5 use a P72 part number for head bolts.  11x164 x 10.

B16A uses a PG6 part number.  11x155 x 10.

B18 A/B use two different PR4 part numbers.  11x158 x 8 and 11x188 x 2.


I think I will make my own inferences on whether these are the right ones for what I am doing.

Fuck off.

Title: Re: Anyone happne to know the length of B18C headstuds?
Post by: HiProfile on April 29, 2010, 11:12:34 AM
Product Description:

ARP 208-4303 Head stud kit for B18C1 Acura Integra DOHC VTEC as well as LS-VTEC builds. Cylinder Head Studs are the Pro Series with 12-Point Head, for use on Acura 1.8L, VTEC B18C1, GSR, B18C5, and LS-VTEC, kit includes studs which are 11mm diameter.

LS = 208-4302
B18C1, B18C5, LS/V = 208-4303
B16A = 208-4601 (official arp catalog lists ONLY b16a for this)


Looks like someone is spreading SHIT information. Deck height matters bigtime because they don't have the threads the same distance from the deck between b16 and b18 vtec motors. Instead they maintained the thread position relative to the crankshaft. There may be a slightly better combo for LS/V because the GSR/ITR have a slightly taller deck than the LS, but people have used GSR/ITR headbolts in LS/V swaps for YEARS.
Title: Re: Anyone happne to know the length of B18C headstuds?
Post by: snm95ls on April 29, 2010, 12:51:31 PM
Exactly.  All I wanted was the info on the length of the studs, not some regurgitated internet myth based on hearsay and brimming with fail.

Both sets of B VTEC studs I have are 7.25" long.  That is about 184 mm in length.  Looks like they are bothe for the taller B18 blocks.


Title: Re: Anyone happne to know the length of B18C headstuds?
Post by: highroller54 on May 01, 2010, 01:13:44 AM



Looks like someone is spreading SHIT information. Deck height matters bigtime because they don't have the threads the same distance from the deck between b16 and b18 vtec motors.

this.
Title: Re: Anyone happne to know the length of B18C headstuds?
Post by: Super Dipper on May 01, 2010, 01:38:59 PM
ive got a set of studs i used in my ls-vtec car a while ago. if you need exact length to confirm what ya got, ill measure them up when im in the shop
Title: Re: Anyone happne to know the length of B18C headstuds?
Post by: snm95ls on May 01, 2010, 01:45:55 PM
ive got a set of studs i used in my ls-vtec car a while ago. if you need exact length to confirm what ya got, ill measure them up when im in the shop

I am pretty sure the ones I have will work, but more information is better.  Please measure them and post up.