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General Category => Fabrication => Topic started by: SiFlyBy on July 18, 2010, 11:32:42 AM

Title: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: SiFlyBy on July 18, 2010, 11:32:42 AM
I bought the WRX over Thanksgiving last year. It has a built engine,PPG gearset, walbro 255, 750cc injectors, catless header, 3" catless exhaust, Greddy FMIC, and what I now think is a CDM 16G turbo. I decided to change some things. Got ahold of a nice HY-35.

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Off the car pics. I'm getting alot of hate on a local forunm that I frequent. Mostly because the up pipe adapter is migged together with some shit I had laying around instead of sch40 SS. I can assure you all though that the inside is very smooth thanks to my die grinder and carbide bits. It looks like fuck, but it works well.

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comparison from the turbo that was on before(chinese 16G?)
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Blow through MAF. No longer venting metered air woohooo! I'm gonna clean up the piping when we get a spool gun for aluminum MIG welding.
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PIcked up this nicer intercooler from a buddy for super cheap and decided to re-route the airflow a bit. It is supposed to be a Spearco core but who knows.

Before
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Comparison
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Mounted
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cold side
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hot side
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done
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this project was brought to you by Leinengkugels Summer Shandy and Robis Repair
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I'm getting alot of hate for the whitey bends, but still noone can expain why they are not going to work well
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: snm95ls on July 18, 2010, 11:37:41 AM
You are getting flack because most scooby guys are jackasses.

I bet that fucker will move out pretty good with the Holslut.

 ;D
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: turbob16hatch on July 18, 2010, 11:50:10 AM
nice flat rate turbo kit.
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: Ntrain2k on July 18, 2010, 11:52:03 AM
Vids STAT!

Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: highroller54 on July 18, 2010, 12:16:27 PM
looks good little guy, I was wondering what youve been up to.
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: ryan89crx on July 18, 2010, 12:21:25 PM
That shit is baller, good job
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: BoostedSchemes on July 18, 2010, 12:38:43 PM
*starts slow clap*
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: crxvtec91 on July 18, 2010, 01:03:30 PM
Shit is fucking pimp!
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: SiFlyBy on July 18, 2010, 01:36:39 PM
Thats the rHMT love I have been missing. Thank you all.

The other forum is a local one and everyone there thinks they are mechanichal, electrical, aeronautical engineers and have $1 million in the bank and $5 mil in the stock market and fuck 5 supermodels a week. http://www.northernanimation.com/forum/ (http://www.northernanimation.com/forum/) if you all feel like getting involved. You have to register and do an intro post though before you can do anything.

I'm running 17 psi right now which is pushing 300 cfm..the limits of the stock MAF on my car. I'm still working on that. Running Cobb Accessport and I think the solution is just to lie to the computer about your target A/F ratio above the 300cfm limit. Maybe someone more familiar with subaru tuning can chime in on that.

Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: davidawg on July 18, 2010, 03:16:30 PM
fuck yeah, love the up pipe! 
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: TTC on July 18, 2010, 03:28:53 PM
The suby guys are almost as fucking gay as the Nissan guys, if it doesnt come in a Japanese bling box they think its stupid. If it isnt what everyone else uses its stupid and most importantly if its not an off the shelf tune that fits without modification its stupid.

Fuck them, awsome job but im assuming since subys spool everything like shit, that slut will take a while to start boiling.
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: turbob16hatch on July 18, 2010, 03:43:36 PM
Thats the rHMT love I have been missing. Thank you all.

The other forum is a local one and everyone there thinks they are mechanichal, electrical, aeronautical engineers and have $1 million in the bank and $5 mil in the stock market and fuck 5 supermodels a week. http://www.northernanimation.com/forum/ (http://www.northernanimation.com/forum/) if you all feel like getting involved. You have to register and do an intro post though before you can do anything.

I'm running 17 psi right now which is pushing 300 cfm..the limits of the stock MAF on my car. I'm still working on that. Running Cobb Accessport and I think the solution is just to lie to the computer about your target A/F ratio above the 300cfm limit. Maybe someone more familiar with subaru tuning can chime in on that.



I funny that your a semi local rhmt member to me. I also hate that website and haven't been on there in years because of it's fucking yuppie problem. any reason your not on fargostreet.com to just hate on everyone? it's good fun.
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: DelSlow on July 18, 2010, 04:00:02 PM
I'm on NA and that thread was lol'tastic.

GSR is funny in the fact that he spends $32433423.34 on his builds and has the mentality of "if you don't tune on AEM...then don't do it at all."


I will agree with them that the 'upgrade' from the Greddy intercooler to an Ebay intercooler is...uh...sweet?  :?:
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: SloS13 on July 18, 2010, 04:42:44 PM
fucking badass.  Can't wait for vids.
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: SiFlyBy on July 18, 2010, 04:54:08 PM
The suby guys are almost as fucking gay as the Nissan guys, if it doesnt come in a Japanese bling box they think its stupid. If it isnt what everyone else uses its stupid and most importantly if its not an off the shelf tune that fits without modification its stupid.

Fuck them, awsome job but im assuming since subys spool everything like shit, that slut will take a while to start boiling.

Just like the homos on hondatech with hondas. It is a little slowspoolin, but barely more so than the CDM 16G that was on before.

I funny that your a semi local rhmt member to me. I also hate that website and haven't been on there in years because of it's fucking yuppie problem. any reason your not on fargostreet.com to just hate on everyone? it's good fun.
Ill check out fargostreet.com

I'm on NA and that thread was lol'tastic.

GSR is funny in the fact that he spends $32433423.34 on his builds and has the mentality of "if you don't tune on AEM...then don't do it at all."


I will agree with them that the 'upgrade' from the Greddy intercooler to an Ebay intercooler is...uh...sweet?  :?:

As far as the IC goes, once again, as far as I know it is supposed to bea spearco core.
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: DelSlow on July 18, 2010, 05:54:05 PM
As far as the IC goes, once again, as far as I know it is supposed to bea spearco core.


...It's not.
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: SiFlyBy on July 18, 2010, 06:37:13 PM
And how does one tell?
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: CSaddict on July 18, 2010, 09:29:11 PM
All the Spearco units I have seen have textured cast end tanks.
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: ryan89crx on July 18, 2010, 09:48:21 PM
Your Greddy IC positioning was way better IMHO. The majority of your air takes the shortest route possible(inlet straight to outlet), and that part of your new IC is blocked by your bumper which will inhibit cooling a bit. But it looks pretty sweet how it sits, lol
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: SiFlyBy on July 18, 2010, 10:45:01 PM
All the Spearco units I have seen have textured cast end tanks.

Like I said, spearco core. custom endtanks for the applications they were intended to be used for. My buddy bough a bunch of these from a Nissan dealer that had some aftermarket intentions for them.

Your Greddy IC positioning was way better IMHO. The majority of your air takes the shortest route possible(inlet straight to outlet), and that part of your new IC is blocked by your bumper which will inhibit cooling a bit. But it looks pretty sweet how it sits, lol

The bumper really doesnt block anything because it is cut to shit after the front fascia on the top. If you see a WRX with bumper intact, take away all the black plastic and that is whats missing. Its a straight shot to the top of the IC. According to Corky Bell, your IC airflow opening only needs to be 1/4 of the area of the core you are using. A good point you have, but I think Im golden. ..Plus it looks much cleaner without the gap between the bottom of the IC and the bumper. I have since tied the bumper up so the bottom of the bumper is more uniform and the bottom of the IC is inside the bumper.
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: 7808 on July 18, 2010, 11:59:38 PM
thats an ebay intercooler homes.   tell your friend that lied to you he better have been lied to himself or your going to beat whatever more you paid him then they cost out of him
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on July 19, 2010, 12:21:51 AM
Ho;eslut, birdshit welds whitey bends......   Top shelf son  Top shelf   :noel:   :yes:
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: theidealone on July 19, 2010, 03:44:47 AM
Unless its a Spearco core with CDM end tanks welded to it, thats an eBay intercooler boss. They sure as fuck arent "custom end tanks" or anything. And anyone who would buy a Spearco core, wouldnt use chinese end tanks.

I have the same one on my car. You can tell by the lines of the end tanks.

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Although, I would take the bar n plate over the tube n fin any day. So fuck what them fags are tellin ya. Plus, GReddy? Fuck GReddy. Show me one product that is up to par with today's advances. For fucks sake, I had to cut a hole in my "GReddy" catch can, because it was a closed set up, so I could wedge a filter on it. Bet those fan boys on your local forum would love that one.
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: crxvtec91 on July 19, 2010, 08:29:06 PM
i see your hy and raise you an hx

About you STFU and go make a intro post you worthless cum sucking noob  :-*
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: Joseph Davis on July 19, 2010, 09:06:07 PM
I'm running 17 psi right now which is pushing 300 cfm..the limits of the stock MAF on my car. I'm still working on that. Running Cobb Accessport and I think the solution is just to lie to the computer about your target A/F ratio above the 300cfm limit. Maybe someone more familiar with subaru tuning can chime in on that.

Sell the Accessport and buy a Tactrix cable.  Download the freeware software you need (ECUFlash and ROM Raider).

You have a couple of solutions, I'm going to list them by order of preference... keep in mind I've only done AEM on built engines and ECUFlash/ROM Raider on stock ones.  I can give you very good advice, but if you aren't sure when I'm speaking from experience and when I'm playing with ideas PLEASE ASK because I don't want to fuck you on the deal.

1a) Subaru is one of the best MAF implementations ever, but to do anything with what you have and keeping the MAF is going to cost money.  See if there's a speed density hack for your ECU (I know there is for 04-ish STi, and I *think* bugeye) and milk that.

1b) Blowthru MAF skews what the MAF actually reads, lower's it's ceiling so to speak.  Dropping that sensor into a 70-75mm housing pre-turbo will both not skew it's output as airmass goes up, but also increase it's peak.  Hell, you can probably try for a full 80mm housing as that's the size of your turbo inlet BUT be aware that when you make a MAF too large you can kill off it's ability to read airmass with any resolution at idle.

* keep in mind that 1a and 1b are ASSuming that a built motor with excess clearances aren't wreaking havok with the knock sensor, which is a backbone sensor in those ECUs.  Unlike Evo you can disable it and tune off the base timing map, but I really recommend dyno time.  If the KS is freaking out I'd do that with my own car, but you might want to look into buying a $400-500 Honda AEM and wiring it into your WRX. *

2) Diablosports MAFia to rescale your MAF in it's current configuration.  $180 new I think?  The basic idea is that hotwire MAF are 0-12 volt devices, but the ECU can't read past 5 volts of that signal.  A MAFia will compress 0-6 volts into 0-5 volts, etc, increasing what you can read out of the meter right up until you lose resolution at idle exactly like having too big of a MAF housing.

3) Honda AEM wired into a stock WRX ECU plug.  If you are feeling snappy, and want to keep scantool emissions, you can keep the stock ECU powered w/ all codes disabled and the force readiness box checked and let it pick up OBD2port duty.

I'd be curious to see some datalogs, with an eye to AFR, timing, IAM, and KS feedback.  Also, it sounds like you're pretty bright/decently well read on the cars to get what's obviously a 300 whp 350 wtq Scoob to hold together, but please don't raise the revlimit or you'll shit the oil pump.
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: Joseph Davis on July 19, 2010, 09:09:22 PM
http://www.romraider.com/forum/topic2947.html (http://www.romraider.com/forum/topic2947.html)
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: Teg2boo on July 19, 2010, 11:06:46 PM
The flanges look a bit thin, but I fucking like it  :noel:
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: SiFlyBy on July 19, 2010, 11:11:20 PM
I'm running 17 psi right now which is pushing 300 cfm..the limits of the stock MAF on my car. I'm still working on that. Running Cobb Accessport and I think the solution is just to lie to the computer about your target A/F ratio above the 300cfm limit. Maybe someone more familiar with subaru tuning can chime in on that.

Sell the Accessport and buy a Tactrix cable.  Download the freeware software you need (ECUFlash and ROM Raider).

You have a couple of solutions, I'm going to list them by order of preference... keep in mind I've only done AEM on built engines and ECUFlash/ROM Raider on stock ones.  I can give you very good advice, but if you aren't sure when I'm speaking from experience and when I'm playing with ideas PLEASE ASK because I don't want to fuck you on the deal.

1a) Subaru is one of the best MAF implementations ever, but to do anything with what you have and keeping the MAF is going to cost money.  See if there's a speed density hack for your ECU (I know there is for 04-ish STi, and I *think* bugeye) and milk that.

1b) Blowthru MAF skews what the MAF actually reads, lower's it's ceiling so to speak.  Dropping that sensor into a 70-75mm housing pre-turbo will both not skew it's output as airmass goes up, but also increase it's peak.  Hell, you can probably try for a full 80mm housing as that's the size of your turbo inlet BUT be aware that when you make a MAF too large you can kill off it's ability to read airmass with any resolution at idle.

* keep in mind that 1a and 1b are ASSuming that a built motor with excess clearances aren't wreaking havok with the knock sensor, which is a backbone sensor in those ECUs.  Unlike Evo you can disable it and tune off the base timing map, but I really recommend dyno time.  If the KS is freaking out I'd do that with my own car, but you might want to look into buying a $400-500 Honda AEM and wiring it into your WRX. *

2) Diablosports MAFia to rescale your MAF in it's current configuration.  $180 new I think?  The basic idea is that hotwire MAF are 0-12 volt devices, but the ECU can't read past 5 volts of that signal.  A MAFia will compress 0-6 volts into 0-5 volts, etc, increasing what you can read out of the meter right up until you lose resolution at idle exactly like having too big of a MAF housing.

3) Honda AEM wired into a stock WRX ECU plug.  If you are feeling snappy, and want to keep scantool emissions, you can keep the stock ECU powered w/ all codes disabled and the force readiness box checked and let it pick up OBD2port duty.

I'd be curious to see some datalogs, with an eye to AFR, timing, IAM, and KS feedback.  Also, it sounds like you're pretty bright/decently well read on the cars to get what's obviously a 300 whp 350 wtq Scoob to hold together, but please don't raise the revlimit or you'll shit the oil pump.

JD, as always, you are a motherfucking gangster. I am glad you found the comment which was directed DIRECTLY at you. I have read up a little on the RomRaider business and it has peaked my interest a little...but more so now I would say after reading the big FAQ in your other post. I think as money allows, I may seriously consider it. From what I gathered it is just a different flash/software using the  factory MAP sensor to guage airflow and tune via a VE table(not being very familiar with many tuning platforms it solely reminds me of MegaSquirt).

Here is one more question for you, just out of curiousity. I have just started a thread on hte CobbTuning forums with the same question: The way the AccessPort tuning guide instructs a nigger to tune past 300 CFM is to lie to the ECU in the last column of the fuel table( it uses the examples 10:1 A/F ratio for 350whp and 8:1 for 400 whp to reach a desired of , say, 11.5:1) Is this complete and utter horseshit or am I missing something else?

BTW, I think I'm up to about a keg of whatever you drink that I owe you for past advice including this. I WILL make good on that some day, provided we both live long enough.
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: SiFlyBy on July 19, 2010, 11:15:17 PM
The flanges look a bit thin, but I fucking like it  :noel:

Flanges are NDDM  O0...Thats like CDM or JDM, but made in North Dakota by me cause Im too fucking cheap to buy a $15 flange. Luckily they warped the right direction so they seal nice. :noel: :yes:
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: SiFlyBy on July 20, 2010, 09:40:46 AM
I tried to get some logs this morning and *I think* it went into fuel cut at about 6200 rpm. I also noticed the EGT sensor reads constant 689 degrees and set a p0546(EGT sensor). geting a new sensor today
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: asx on July 20, 2010, 10:34:44 AM
JD's suggestions 1a and 1b are definitely the cheapest/least ghetto way to go. You'll come out with money from selling the accessport. I used RomRaider back when it was called Enginuity on my mom's MY05 WRX wagon. Aside from the obvious fuel and timing changes the best part IMO was getting to play with the closed loop boost control settings. There are a few settings you can change to make the stock turbo spool like it damnwell should, if the Accessport doesn't take advantage of that then you are really missing out with that holsut.

I think JD referenced it, but didn't explicitly say that you can rescale the Load vs MAF sensor voltage tables. Definitely nice if you'll be putting the MAF in a new housing.
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: Joseph Davis on July 20, 2010, 12:08:27 PM
I tried to get some logs this morning and *I think* it went into fuel cut at about 6200 rpm. I also noticed the EGT sensor reads constant 689 degrees and set a p0546(EGT sensor). geting a new sensor today

Don't bother, just stick a 2.2K ohm resistor across the EGT terminals.
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: TTC on July 20, 2010, 02:22:12 PM
I tried to get some logs this morning and *I think* it went into fuel cut at about 6200 rpm. I also noticed the EGT sensor reads constant 689 degrees and set a p0546(EGT sensor). geting a new sensor today

Don't bother, just stick a 2.2K ohm resistor across the EGT terminals.

That is exactly what i did with mine when it went.
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: SiFlyBy on July 20, 2010, 04:11:14 PM
I tried to get some logs this morning and *I think* it went into fuel cut at about 6200 rpm. I also noticed the EGT sensor reads constant 689 degrees and set a p0546(EGT sensor). geting a new sensor today

Don't bother, just stick a 2.2K ohm resistor across the EGT terminals.

I kind of wanted to use it for ignition tuning and try to push timing for fuel ecomomy. I already got the sensor and it was only $60. Im just gonna put it in.

I really want your input on this so what are your thoughts here:


Here is one more question for you, just out of curiousity. I have just started a thread on hte CobbTuning forums with the same question: The way the AccessPort tuning guide instructs a nigger to tune past 300 CFM is to lie to the ECU in the last column of the fuel table( it uses the examples 10:1 A/F ratio for 350whp and 8:1 for 400 whp to reach a desired of , say, 11.5:1) Is this complete and utter horseshit or am I missing something else?

Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: Joseph Davis on July 20, 2010, 04:13:35 PM
That's as dumb as making the last column in Crome reeeeeeal rich and reeeeeeal retarded so you can push 20 psi on a stock MAP sensor.  The real solution is to use a sensor that reads the entirety of your power output, and tune the vehicle.
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: SiFlyBy on July 20, 2010, 09:39:29 PM
That's as dumb as making the last column in Crome reeeeeeal rich and reeeeeeal retarded so you can push 20 psi on a stock MAP sensor.  The real solution is to use a sensor that reads the entirety of your power output, and tune the vehicle.

Ok, so I'm not the only one..
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: kgx on July 20, 2010, 10:57:19 PM

Off the car pics. I'm getting alot of hate on a local forunm that I frequent.

and when they can fab their own turbo systems, their opinions might be worth something.

there's nothing impressive about a car that someone built with a master card.
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: HiProfile on July 21, 2010, 02:16:23 AM
there's nothing impressive about a car that someone built with a master card.

Exactly. Unless it's a dedicated auto-x car you can drive like a mofo. Tell them they can start offering input when they start cutting sub-2.0 second 0-60's with their AWD car.
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: SiFlyBy on July 22, 2010, 11:24:47 AM
The turbo inlet is 4"(~100mm). Im thinking about sticking the MAF sensor in there but IDK if thats gonna be too big to idle worth a fuck or not. I haven't figured on how much bigger it will be compared to the 2.75" or so pipe itsw in now. I'm thinking it will be pretty tuneable at idle and low rpm because it reads ~30 CFM at about 2.6V and uses 2.6V-5V for the other 270 CFM. Anyone have thoughts or experience here? If it doesnt work I will undoubtedly take JDs advice: scrap the AP and go with Romraider. But right now Im trying not to spend more monies.
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: 79fairmont on July 22, 2010, 06:11:24 PM
Can he simply run the meter in a larger diameter tube like we do in ford land?
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: dvst8r on July 22, 2010, 06:30:50 PM
Can he simply run the meter in a larger diameter tube like we do in ford land?

I take it you didn't read ANY of this thread...  ::)


1b) Blowthru MAF skews what the MAF actually reads, lower's it's ceiling so to speak.  Dropping that sensor into a 70-75mm housing pre-turbo will both not skew it's output as airmass goes up, but also increase it's peak.  Hell, you can probably try for a full 80mm housing as that's the size of your turbo inlet BUT be aware that when you make a MAF too large you can kill off it's ability to read airmass with any resolution at idle.


In bold so you didn't miss it this time...  ;)
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: Joseph Davis on July 22, 2010, 07:56:43 PM
I'm pretty sure 79fairmont knows more about dropping sensors into larger housings, and getting the job done, than I do. 
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: 79fairmont on July 22, 2010, 09:22:49 PM
Admittidly I may have skimmed it over and missed a couple facts I figured JD may have offered that solution. I'm not really familiar with subaru's. I know we often do it on the blue oval products and seem to have no issues with it. I did not know if they had issues doing it in other brands. If I had read more I would have noticed JD as always was on top of his game. I will say blow thru maf's can be the devil. The mafia's work but sometimes can give problems with decreased resolution. Draw thru and turbo's seem to work well together. I still failed at reading the thread though. That's what I love about rhmt always some one there to knock your dick in the dirt if you give them the chance.
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: SiFlyBy on July 22, 2010, 10:03:25 PM
Can he simply run the meter in a larger diameter tube like we do in ford land?

I'm kind of a Ford Nog myself by experience, that is why that makes sense to me.

Alrighty then...23.74625 is the area of the current MAF housing. 50.24 is a 4" housing. divided we get .47 . Unless my math is fukd that is the multiplier I would have to start with if I wanted to change the MAF housing and should allow me to tune to around 600 CFM.Although I don't plan to go that far it would be nice to have a high ceiling. If I have time to test this very soon, I will let ya'll know how it goes.

Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: Joseph Davis on July 22, 2010, 11:01:33 PM
You possess basic math skills?  Holy shit.  You'll probably pull this off.
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: SiFlyBy on July 22, 2010, 11:25:08 PM
You possess basic math skills?  Holy shit.  You'll probably pull this off.

Contrary to popular belief, yes I do possess math skillz. Its incredible though how they are blurred over the years. 9 years out of high school and I dont remember shit. I think my multiplier is  2.11 though, not .47. Pulling it off will depend on the idle resolution...or fuck AP and go your route. The only problem I have is the time to learn the Rom raider stuff. I have spent so much time over the past 9 months trying to learn AP and my time is short the way it is. Babys tend to do that.

Anybody guess at how far I can go on 91 octane? Maybe 25 psi with the Holslut and be rockin about 400whp?
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: Joseph Davis on July 23, 2010, 01:13:55 AM
Those things have 30% drivetrain loss, and the 2.0 is like a big dorky D16Z6.  400whp on pump is not one of the things I would consider as a goal in my life.

Not sure how the stock primary (wideband) likes leaded gasolines.
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: Ntrain2k on July 23, 2010, 07:06:39 AM
You possess basic math skills?  Holy shit.  You'll probably pull this off.

Contrary to popular belief, yes I do possess math skillz. Its incredible though how they are blurred over the years. 9 years out of high school and I dont remember shit. I think my multiplier is  2.11 though, not .47. Pulling it off will depend on the idle resolution...or fuck AP and go your route. The only problem I have is the time to learn the Rom raider stuff. I have spent so much time over the past 9 months trying to learn AP and my time is short the way it is. Babys tend to do that.

Anybody guess at how far I can go on 91 octane? Maybe 25 psi with the Holslut and be rockin about 400whp?

Wait till you are 23 years out of high school.
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: SiFlyBy on July 23, 2010, 10:14:02 AM
Those things have 30% drivetrain loss, and the 2.0 is like a big dorky D16Z6.  400whp on pump is not one of the things I would consider as a goal in my life.

Not sure how the stock primary (wideband) likes leaded gasolines.

Maybe I will do what I always do when I'm not sure which way to go: turn to alcohol....it usually solves the problem. I guess by selling AP and going with Tactrix+Romraider I can afford some larger injectors.. :noel:

I think I will procrastinate and bitch about it for awhile first though.
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: Joseph Davis on July 23, 2010, 10:25:24 AM
I wouldn't worry about it.  I've never used the AP, but it's based off the same ECU and I LOVE the way ECUFlash/ROM Raider/the stock ECU works.  Its a bit annoying to get exact values at one given point in the 2D datalogs w/ RR as you have to hover just right adjacent to a line, but otherwise it is veeeeery nice.

Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: SiFlyBy on July 23, 2010, 10:53:54 AM
You are confusing me now. Keep AP?

 I fooled with the tables last night and you cant write a number highr than 300 in the intake calibration table...cant write higher than 14.7 in the fuel table...grr
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: Joseph Davis on July 23, 2010, 10:55:19 AM
Sell AP, go with SD hack.
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: HiProfile on July 23, 2010, 01:12:35 PM
Listen to JD Sell Acess Port.



Or:

Listen to JDSAP
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: SiFlyBy on July 23, 2010, 08:56:18 PM
Well, I gues its settled. I need to pay off my new tires first and then look into Tactrix and Romraider. It will probably be a month or 2 so plenty of time to read up on it....Maybe Ill build a HE351VE setup in the meantime.... :noel: :yes:
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: Aero on August 01, 2010, 07:00:47 PM
Well, I gues its settled. I need to pay off my new tires first and then look into Tactrix and Romraider. It will probably be a month or 2 so plenty of time to read up on it....Maybe Ill build a HE351VE setup in the meantime.... :noel: :yes:

Me likey.
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: SOHCKLR657 on August 02, 2010, 03:38:15 AM
Listen to JD Sell Acess Port.



Or:

Listen to JDSAP
I donno if i wanna listen to that yo
:?:

Sweet build man, i like it cant wait to see some more
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: SiFlyBy on September 27, 2010, 10:03:35 PM
I decided on some higher quality parts. CDM WG was creeping boost like a motherfucker in 3rd,4th, 5th gears. Im sure it didnt help that I had to make the fire ring since I either used ot lost the one it came with. Turbosmart shiz:
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As it sits now. Boost is rock solid at 15.5 psi (7+10 psi springs, boost source from comp outlet) even at the top of 4th gear. Im waiting till I can afford some larger injectors. I made the hop to E85 and my 750s are maxed at the current boost.
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: SiFlyBy on September 27, 2010, 10:26:13 PM
I made a hell of an effort to make the HE351VE work. Built this sweet ass adapter, installed it and I just wasnt feeling it. From the start I had a leak between the adapter and the header up-pipe which was exaggerated by the closed down hotside housing. Boost built very slow, probably due to the exhaust leak and the lack of tuning. At the end of the day I had to go back with the HY. I will try again. The other issue is that I have been working on this during work hours and we have a lot of work piled up that needs to get done to meet some goals that we have. More as it comes I guess. enjoy

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Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: ratcityrex on September 28, 2010, 01:17:57 AM
I'm digging the adapter!
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: HiProfile on September 28, 2010, 01:39:37 AM
Is the flange just warped like Johnny's mind after the man's microwave bombardment?

Also, Aero said that full-closed was too restrictive. IIRC the trucks use it as a sort of exhaust brake. Another thing is the stock hoeslut actuator is set for much more than 15psi. You'd be better off with the WRX's stock actuator.
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: SiFlyBy on September 28, 2010, 06:58:52 AM
Is the flange just warped like Johnny's mind after the man's microwave bombardment?

Also, Aero said that full-closed was too restrictive. IIRC the trucks use it as a sort of exhaust brake. Another thing is the stock hoeslut actuator is set for much more than 15psi. You'd be better off with the WRX's stock actuator.

I think the gasket is fucked after being reused 11teen times.  ::)

The actuator that I have rigged up on it came from a HX35 I think and opens the rack fully by about 15 psi. That is without exhaust pressure pushing on it.

Let me make it clear: This will happen again, likely next spring after I get bigger injector, ditch the Turbulence Generator Valves in the lower intake, move the MAF to before the turbo into a 4" housing(sorry JD, but I like MAF better with VGT, I think you do too though) and get a new set of synchros
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: accordepicenter on September 30, 2010, 04:29:55 PM
Its def a good thing you got rid of the ching chong wg.  Turbosmart stuff is pretty good. 
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: glustic on September 30, 2010, 04:37:07 PM
Its def a good thing you got rid of the ching chong wg.  Turbosmart stuff is pretty good. 

My CDM wastegate is fine..... As long as it works who gives a fuck?
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: Joseph Davis on September 30, 2010, 04:40:11 PM
Its def a good thing you got rid of the ching chong wg.  Turbosmart stuff is pretty good. 

My CDM wastegate is fine..... As long as it works who gives a fuck?


My CDM wastegate is fine..... As long as it works who gives a fuck?


As long as it works who gives a fuck?

As long as it works
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: SiFlyBy on September 30, 2010, 08:25:40 PM

My CDM wastegate is fine..... As long as it works who gives a fuck?

CDM WG was creeping boost like a motherfucker.
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: h2a on September 30, 2010, 08:51:48 PM
 ;D have a nice day rain sucks
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: Joseph Davis on September 30, 2010, 10:51:13 PM
Shane.  Despite CSaddict's vouching for you (past tense at this point, I'm sure) I can envision myself getting drunk and IP banning you, then denying it was me if anyone asked.

I don't expect everyone to be e-cool if they are cool IRL, and I notice you've cut down on hostile posts when shitfaced/off your meds/by your kids, but I get the feeling shit's not settled on your end.  Find some stability, dude.  You're a long way off from being banned - that's not the issue - but people really don't know what to say when you post.
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: turbob16hatch on September 30, 2010, 11:06:14 PM
Fuck all those fags that are givin you shit for your sweet ass whitey bends and your migged goodness. Who gives two shits if the intercooler is ching chong, bar and plate...is bar and plate...and always superior to tube N fin.

Shit looks good. Its cool to see someone actually doing something to a wrx besides ordering parts and bolting them on.

Please stfu. quit generalizing everything. fuck core density or shit any sort of quality in general.  :?:
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: SiFlyBy on September 30, 2010, 11:13:55 PM
I can vouch that this interfooler is inded a good one. I have not seen intake temps rise more than 10 degrees and pressure loss throught the system is about 1.5 psi total.
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: Joseph Davis on October 01, 2010, 12:12:30 AM
Fuck all those fags that are givin you shit for your sweet ass whitey bends and your migged goodness. Who gives two shits if the intercooler is ching chong, bar and plate...is bar and plate...and always superior to tube N fin.

Shit looks good. Its cool to see someone actually doing something to a wrx besides ordering parts and bolting them on.

Please stfu. quit generalizing everything. fuck core density or shit any sort of quality in general.  :?:

Not if the core is very large, and it's a street car.

I have seen overheating problems from doing that, though.  Be careful of blocking the radiator.  Sometimes you *have* to buy a nice core, depending on the vehicle.

Unless your aiming for huge horsepower, does it really fucking matter?
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: glustic on October 02, 2010, 10:33:51 PM

My CDM wastegate is fine..... As long as it works who gives a fuck?

CDM WG was creeping boost like a motherfucker.

As stated my WG is fine, I know your cdm is fucked.
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: ratcityrex on October 02, 2010, 10:37:39 PM
My cdm gate works great. Its been on 4 differant turbo setups and Ive had it for 5 years. Holds 22lbs without any problems. And i have no creap or spike. Maybey its one of the OG cdm ones b4 the tooling went to shit.
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: SiFlyBy on October 04, 2010, 01:40:07 PM
Its probably more due to the fact that I had to make a fire ring for it. Which ended up being about a 1" hole instead of a 1.5" or 38mm hole. Either way the new Turbosmart shit looks baller and works very well. The BOV doesnt flutter the way the POS SSQ did, it just blows off.
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: glustic on October 06, 2010, 02:37:16 AM
Its probably more due to the fact that I had to make a fire ring for it. Which ended up being about a 1" hole instead of a 1.5" or 38mm hole. Either way the new Turbosmart shit looks baller and works very well. The BOV doesnt flutter the way the POS SSQ did, it just blows off.

Lol, I love how this shit always gets out.


Aj, where did you get your wg?
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: SiFlyBy on October 06, 2010, 07:56:18 AM
I decided on some higher quality parts. CDM WG was creeping boost like a motherfucker in 3rd,4th, 5th gears. Im sure it didnt help that I had to make the fire ring since I either used ot lost the one it came with.

I stated that fact in that on the last page in the Turbosmart shit post.
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: glustic on October 06, 2010, 10:01:56 AM
I decided on some higher quality parts. CDM WG was creeping boost like a motherfucker in 3rd,4th, 5th gears. Im sure it didnt help that I had to make the fire ring since I either used ot lost the one it came with.

I stated that fact in that on the last page in the Turbosmart shit post.

Yeah, I dont like to read through all the bs. Basically reading pwns me
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: SiFlyBy on October 06, 2010, 03:28:00 PM
I decided on some higher quality parts. CDM WG was creeping boost like a motherfucker in 3rd,4th, 5th gears. Im sure it didnt help that I had to make the fire ring since I either used ot lost the one it came with.

I stated that fact in that on the last page in the Turbosmart shit post.

Yeah, I dont like to read through all the bs. Basically reading pwns me


Thats ok, I just like to look at  the pretty pictures too.  ;D
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: ApexSilver06MR on October 06, 2010, 04:53:51 PM
Its probably more due to the fact that I had to make a fire ring for it. Which ended up being about a 1" hole instead of a 1.5" or 38mm hole. Either way the new Turbosmart shit looks baller and works very well. The BOV doesnt flutter the way the POS SSQ did, it just blows off.


sell me the homemade fire ring sir
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: SiFlyBy on October 06, 2010, 10:00:48 PM
Its probably more due to the fact that I had to make a fire ring for it. Which ended up being about a 1" hole instead of a 1.5" or 38mm hole. Either way the new Turbosmart shit looks baller and works very well. The BOV doesnt flutter the way the POS SSQ did, it just blows off.


sell me the homemade fire ring sir

Are you fucking serious? You did catch the parts about boost creep in higher gears right? Im talking solid 15 psi in 1,2 and easily creeping past 22 in 4th. If you really want it, I guess you can have it. Ill PM you.
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: Joseph Davis on October 07, 2010, 06:24:03 PM
Jay wants a RHMT cock ring.
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: glustic on October 07, 2010, 08:07:28 PM
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Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: Joseph Davis on October 07, 2010, 08:18:26 PM
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Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: SOHCKLR657 on October 07, 2010, 08:47:25 PM
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:D
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: HiProfile on October 09, 2010, 07:17:57 PM
Jay wants a RHMT cock ring.

ended up being about a 1" hole


Aren't they intended to fit snug?
Title: Re: 02 WRX HY-35
Post by: glustic on October 10, 2010, 12:42:18 AM
Jay wants a RHMT cock ring.

ended up being about a 1" hole


Aren't they intended to fit snug?

Jays wife tells me his dick is about 1/2 inch diameter, so it will be way too big