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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Towdogg on April 08, 2009, 12:37:37 AM

Title: Max boost on 440cc
Post by: Towdogg on April 08, 2009, 12:37:37 AM
I have a 75mm Vitara D16Z6 with .57 trim and 440cc injectors...

What is the max amount of boost I can run on the injectors before they dry up...   :evil:

Title: Re: Max boost on 440cc
Post by: 88dx on April 08, 2009, 12:39:21 AM
29.1189
Title: Re: Max boost on 440cc
Post by: patsmx5 on April 08, 2009, 12:39:57 AM
Approximately 29.1189
Fixed.
Title: Re: Max boost on 440cc
Post by: 88dx on April 08, 2009, 12:40:45 AM
Approximately 29.1189
Fixed.
no u fucked it up  :somb:
Title: Re: Max boost on 440cc
Post by: marcj on April 08, 2009, 12:42:49 AM
haha, 450cc injectors should max out around 300 hp at stock fuel pressure.

I'm thinking they might support more with a decent FPR, but I'd recommend upgrading the injectors instead. Delphis are cheap
Title: Re: Max boost on 440cc
Post by: Towdogg on April 08, 2009, 12:55:21 AM
29.1189

So the post whoring begins!   Get a job!  :somb:
Title: Re: Max boost on 440cc
Post by: sewell94 on April 08, 2009, 01:14:39 AM
boost is irrevelant.  it is all about the power.  What fuel pump?? What base fuel pressure??  what cams?? any port work?? Theres alot of variables involved,

taking a random guess(assuming you have a stock head/cams and a 255) you should be able to get at least 17-18lbs out of them.
Title: Re: Max boost on 440cc
Post by: chris on April 08, 2009, 01:41:03 AM
Fuel pressure makes a huge difference. I have made 190 whp on b16a's all motor with stock injectors. Fpr was cranked up as high as it would go classic b&m fpr.
Title: Re: Max boost on 440cc
Post by: Towdogg on April 08, 2009, 01:46:30 AM
I do have the Classic B+M FPR but switched it out for the bigger outlet B-series FPR.

Stock fuel pump...

Title: Re: Max boost on 440cc
Post by: lilpooh21186 on April 08, 2009, 02:01:08 AM
chuck i may have a 255 for you i have to raid the shed to find it though
Title: Re: Max boost on 440cc
Post by: rsmith2786 on April 08, 2009, 02:05:05 AM
(34.8MJ/L)*(1L/1000cc)*(440cc/min)*(min/60s)=.2552MW=340HP

Assume approx thermal efficiency of 40% and you get 136HP.

Clearly too low.  Where is my error?  440cc/min at base fuel pressure?  Some of my conversions could be wrong too.  It's late.
Title: Re: Max boost on 440cc
Post by: jhonda on April 08, 2009, 05:10:35 PM
im running 440cc on my b20 vtec turbo and putting down 342hp with them and a walbro 255 fuel pump tuned on crome (but yea their probably about maxed out) :yes: :o
Title: Re: Max boost on 440cc
Post by: patsmx5 on April 08, 2009, 05:18:05 PM
'bout yay much.

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Title: Re: Max boost on 440cc
Post by: MantisX on April 08, 2009, 05:18:53 PM
im running 440cc on my b20 vtec turbo and putting down 342hp with them and a walbro 255 fuel pump tuned on crome (but yea their probably about maxed out) :yes: :o

Did you increase the pressue any with a regulator or is it stock pressure?
Title: Re: Max boost on 440cc
Post by: jhonda on April 08, 2009, 05:29:25 PM
im not sure but i think the pressure is around 60 or something (i had the car tuned by slowmotion-motorsports here in ohio) after i got it all turboed up... i was expecting somewhere around 250whp on 9psi NOT 350whp... but its still going strong no smoke and no problems. next time i pop the hood i'll look at what the pressure is at i cant remember 
Title: Re: Max boost on 440cc
Post by: Colin on April 08, 2009, 05:54:41 PM
(34.8MJ/L)*(1L/1000cc)*(440cc/min)*(min/60s)=.2552MW=340HP

Assume approx thermal efficiency of 40% and you get 136HP.

Clearly too low.  Where is my error?  440cc/min at base fuel pressure?  Some of my conversions could be wrong too.  It's late.

Thermal, yes, but typical engine efficiency is about 20%. Multiply that by 4 injectors and you get about 272HP.

It's pretty typical that these things are good til about 300hp, depending on fuel pressure.
Title: Re: Max boost on 440cc
Post by: rsmith2786 on April 08, 2009, 07:42:59 PM
Damn.  4 injectors. :D