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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: ironcrx on August 26, 2010, 07:20:27 PM

Title: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: ironcrx on August 26, 2010, 07:20:27 PM
So the CRZs are finally on the lots.  They were just released Tuesday.  I test drove one today and I really liked it.  There was only one left out 4 or 5 at the honda dealership here in town.  The others were all purchased by guys who showed up in crx's lol  :noel:

Of course theres plenty that could have been done to please the crx crowd but god damn it was still pretty awesome. 

Thoughts guys?  Particularly from those who have been in it or driven it.  I know the general opinions of it before its release.  In person does it more justice than the pictures/videos depict.
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: Jorsher on August 26, 2010, 07:28:53 PM
Meh.  What did you like about it?

I think they're pretty damn ugly.  They look considerably better in red or black, but still meh...

They're pretty damn slow.  The Odyssey is faster and it's not a "sport" vehicle.

They could have got the same gas mileage from a gas-only engine.  An SI with a K20 would have been much nicer.

They could have saved a lot of weight without the hybrid bullshit.

If I had to choose between a 1991 CRX Si and a 2010 CRZ, both brand new, I'd pick up the CRX without having to think...
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: Jorsher on August 26, 2010, 08:00:26 PM
However, I would rock the shit out of this widebody (no blue dash) mid-engine CRZ:

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They're thinking it'll run in the GT300, so maybe V6?

Wier, show 'em what's up.

MOAR: http://www.autoblog.com/photos/widebody-honda-cr-z-prototype (http://www.autoblog.com/photos/widebody-honda-cr-z-prototype)
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: turbohf on August 26, 2010, 10:32:33 PM
K20 and i would find the funds...


speaking of funds. every one we are getting is getting body side moldings ( :-X ), rear wing, and all season package shit (muds/mats/tray)...
black one on showroom floor got all that and front lip, sides, defuser, 17" wheels... looks pretty good  :yes:
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: turbohf on August 26, 2010, 10:34:43 PM
BTW:  Mcpherson stuts and solid rear beam... its dead sexy  :?:
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: crxvtec91 on August 26, 2010, 10:59:07 PM
Meh.  What did you like about it?

I think they're pretty damn ugly.
  They look considerably better in red or black, but still meh...

They're pretty damn slow.  The Odyssey is faster and it's not a "sport" vehicle.

They could have got the same gas mileage from a gas-only engine.  An SI with a K20 would have been much nicer.

They could have saved a lot of weight without the hybrid bullshit.

If I had to choose between a 1991 CRX Si and a 2010 CRZ, both brand new, I'd pick up the CRX without having to think...
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: Foowee on August 26, 2010, 11:26:52 PM
I'll wait to find one w/dead batteries for dirt, place a proper drivetrain in it, then we'll see how it do...
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: ironcrx on August 26, 2010, 11:49:20 PM
Its look has grown on me.  looks much better in person though.  Ill end up getting one.  Im waiting for when a conversion kit comes out to stick something else like a K in it.  Its gonna have to happen!
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: Foowee on August 27, 2010, 01:09:52 AM
A proper drivetrain consists of more than just an engine that is capable of making power...   :P
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: Phate on August 27, 2010, 01:49:42 AM
BTW:  Mcpherson stuts and solid rear beam... its dead sexy  :?:

Fucking blasphemy for honda to build something like that.  Didn't it used to be like honda's pride and joy (other than VTAKKK) in the 90's that basically everything they made had double-wishbone suspension at all four corners?
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: j.h.christ on August 27, 2010, 01:57:28 AM
BTW:  Mcpherson stuts and solid rear beam... its dead sexy  :?:

just like a vw  :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: PhilStubbs on August 27, 2010, 07:33:42 AM
i think it looks ok, but hybrid, mcpherson struts, and solid rear axle? fail for sure. wont see one in my driveway. that horseshit is not what the crx was about
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: snm95ls on August 27, 2010, 08:04:44 AM
BTW:  Mcpherson stuts and solid rear beam... its dead sexy  :?:

Well fuck.  I lost interest.

 :(
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: jabberwock on August 27, 2010, 08:52:34 AM
Wait.. solid rear axle?  They did it for the lulz.
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: turbohf on August 27, 2010, 10:30:38 AM
i can post a screen shot of the catalog later. but its not like a strait axle like an old VW. it looks like its got some design behind it. but still....


yes threw most of the 90s honda was proud that all of there cars where F1 inspired double wishbone suspension (and some VTEC powered). i remember the commercials of hondas taking corners hard.


from a parts counter guy standpoint tho. i do sell parts for strut cars. where as the double wishbone cars i dont sell much of shit for.

also, honda warranties those stupid batteries for like 8/80. might be a long wait.
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: malichite on August 27, 2010, 11:25:43 AM
Hope they at least did something cool with the solid rear axle like a watts link or a satchel link.
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: PhilStubbs on August 27, 2010, 11:27:15 AM
I'm sure the solid axle is a lot like my wifes fit. It's sort of a trailing arm setup, but at the end of the day it's still a solid axle pile of fail.

On a side note, the fit does handle pretty well for what it is
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: malichite on August 27, 2010, 11:30:22 AM
Nothing really wrong with the solid in the back.  People think because it is an old design it is inferior.  I have seen many cars do very well on solid axles next to equivalent cars with double wishbone rears.  The fact that you can adjust how high or low the center of roll is with solid rear axles is really nice.
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: dvst8r on August 27, 2010, 11:39:46 AM
BTW:  Mcpherson stuts and solid rear beam... its dead sexy  :?:

just like a vw  :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X

First thing I thought too...
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: turbohf on August 27, 2010, 02:07:41 PM
yeah part catalog looks like the fit beam.


so do fits handle well? or made to handle well?
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: PhilStubbs on August 27, 2010, 03:00:13 PM
I don't really have anything to compare it with right now, but it feels pretty solid when you are pushing it hard.
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on August 27, 2010, 03:10:28 PM
yuk
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: chris on August 27, 2010, 07:13:36 PM
no zc no thanks
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: h2a on August 27, 2010, 08:13:15 PM
Honda made the best car ever crx , the best racing fourwheeler ever fourtrax 250r , I got both of them what, a fucking money pit .
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: HiProfile on August 27, 2010, 09:29:13 PM
i think it looks ok, but hybrid, mcpherson struts, and solid rear axle? fail for sure. wont see one in my driveway. that horseshit is not what the crx was about

duuurrr

Are you forgetting about the CRX's pre-88 days? Redpepper racing anyoen??


The solid rear axle PWNS hardcore. Just ask Johnny... He might say it needs a posi, but whatever.
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: PhilStubbs on August 27, 2010, 10:05:10 PM
I guess I did forget about that, but even that car handled better than this new tank of a 2 seater.
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: Foowee on October 02, 2010, 04:29:28 PM
Just an update.  I sat in a crz yesterday.  There is a significant lack of visibility.  The blind spots are as bad as a del sol.  The quarter window is worthless. 

I haven't sat in an insight, but I think if I were looking for a hybrid to turn into a crx I'd be looking for one of those w/dead batteries.  I'm sure something could be done with the superhomo wheel skirts to turn them into flared arches so you can install a high offset wheel to give the thing a proper stance...
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: random-strike on October 03, 2010, 12:04:21 AM
1st gen crx rear axle makes a great wood trailing
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: crttaz on October 03, 2010, 12:57:24 AM
89 HF with Si motor and ZC tranny, best CRX ever except for B16 JDM setup.
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: Foowee on October 03, 2010, 07:13:43 AM
89 HF with Si motor and boost, best CRX ever.

There's a limited number of quality crx chassis remaining.  Once people realize this the price will go up.  I feel like the insight may be an option for a similar cost/fun ratio, just there weren't quite as many sold...  One other car that may fit the mold, and was sold in massive quantities, is the 2g mini cooper.
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: kgx on October 03, 2010, 02:44:04 PM
i think it looks ok, but hybrid, mcpherson struts, and solid rear axle? fail for sure.

solid axle is fail, but struts aren't the disadvantage they used to be. two of the most successful road racing cars ever run struts (M3 and 911, and the cayman has struts at all 4 corners). the trick is managing how much the car rolls to keep the camber curves from getting retarded. extra caster is a big advantage as well, since it allows less static camber (read: more braking/acceleration contact patch). 
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: BoostedSchemes on October 03, 2010, 03:01:37 PM
all this jibber jabber and yet no pictures of it on the streets

i dont want to see any faggy show pictures i wanna see it driving someplace
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: Foowee on October 03, 2010, 03:56:37 PM
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Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: j.h.christ on October 03, 2010, 04:36:51 PM
Am I the only one who thinks that it is ugly? The view from the side is fucking horrible.
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: random-strike on October 03, 2010, 05:27:56 PM
prius rear with avenger front end
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: SgtB on October 03, 2010, 05:49:50 PM
Looks like puked on dogshit. The wheels might as well be completely behind the motor with a nose that big.
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: potatodude on October 03, 2010, 07:48:22 PM
Just an update.  I sat in a crz yesterday.  There is a significant lack of visibility.  The blind spots are as bad as a del sol.  The quarter window is worthless. 

I haven't sat in an insight, but I think if I were looking for a hybrid to turn into a crx I'd be looking for one of those w/dead batteries.  I'm sure something could be done with the superhomo wheel skirts to turn them into flared arches so you can install a high offset wheel to give the thing a proper stance...

There was an insight on craigslist like a month back with like 180k for $1700.
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: snm95ls on October 03, 2010, 11:30:09 PM
all this jibber jabber and yet no pictures of it on the streets

i dont want to see any faggy show pictures i wanna see it driving someplace
Local guy bought one and seems to like it a lot so far.

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You an see it in action a little in this vid.

DSCF1625 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0840qbZ7os#normal)
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: Teg2boo on October 03, 2010, 11:38:06 PM
It looks huge compared to the NSX  :?:
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: snm95ls on October 03, 2010, 11:41:02 PM
It looks huge compared to the NSX  :?:


Have you not realized how big Honduhs have gotten over the years?

lol.  the newer Accords are fucking huge, and the newer Civics are the size of old Accords.


Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: BoostedSchemes on October 04, 2010, 12:18:21 AM
at least they had the good sense to put the cluster in front of the driver unlike the retards who slapped together the yaris  :?:
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: Teg2boo on October 04, 2010, 12:24:59 AM
at least they had the good sense to put the cluster in front of the driver unlike the retards who slapped together the yaris  :?:

My gf have one and I don't understand why it's in the middle. It's fucking stupid. We've fit an oven in the rear when I moved 2 years ago tho... A real big house oven, not a little pizza oven. Not only the oven was fitting in the back, but the door was also closing pretty well.

Very useful car seriously.
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: ratcityrex on October 04, 2010, 12:38:42 AM
I still like the looks of this idea much better.


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Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: Foowee on October 04, 2010, 08:34:09 AM
or this:

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Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: 7808 on October 04, 2010, 10:38:24 AM
i like new cars less every year.. 
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: kgx on October 07, 2010, 09:42:38 PM
i like this one better:

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but i'm a middyfag.
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: jabberwock on October 08, 2010, 08:58:30 AM
~2000 Insight body with an updated, modern Honda/Acura front end is what they should have done.
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: 97Econobox on October 08, 2010, 09:54:21 AM
I only want used cars.  New cars dont have soul.
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: 7808 on October 08, 2010, 03:42:30 PM
They should of made some kind of stripped down s2k hatchback thing. With analog gauges and minimal saftey features
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on October 08, 2010, 04:51:16 PM
Thing looks atrocious.
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: Phate on October 08, 2010, 09:12:13 PM
or this:

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That one's pretty fucking cool.  I'd rock it.

lol.  the newer Accords are fucking huge, and the newer Civics are the size of old Accords.

As an owner of a 97 accord (the last year they were normal sized), I can vouch for this.  My car is smaller in just about everything except for wheelbase than a newer civic.  Also weighs less too.
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: Joseph Davis on October 08, 2010, 11:44:13 PM
also, honda warranties those stupid batteries for like 8/80. might be a long wait.

1G Insight owners got fucked. 


Also, ironcrx posting CRZ threads to RHMT makes me think you're a little more than merely bicurious.  :(
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: h2a on October 09, 2010, 09:56:12 PM
crx to crz are you fucking seriuos there is no comparison CRX I own one and drove the shit our of the crz please
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: h2a on October 09, 2010, 10:01:57 PM
crz si 20 more hp hold on let , idea come    i think crx
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: tekno on October 09, 2010, 10:25:17 PM
jesus christ can you make a coherent intelligible post for once  ::)      and ridden in a crz slow as balls but I do like the interior :-\
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: ironcrx on October 10, 2010, 12:34:16 AM
also, honda warranties those stupid batteries for like 8/80. might be a long wait.

1G Insight owners got fucked. 


Also, ironcrx posting CRZ threads to RHMT makes me think you're a little more than merely bicurious.  :(

Ill get bicurious with you JD!
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: Joseph Davis on October 10, 2010, 11:24:17 AM
You and h2a need to get a room.
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on October 10, 2010, 01:50:28 PM
You and h2a need to get a room.


AT widebodys house for amyl nitrate, gaysex underwear modeling and scrabble. You could paint yourselves blue and lick it off eadh other too you fucking queers
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: Joseph Davis on October 10, 2010, 03:34:12 PM
ONE BALL TO RULE THEM ALL
Title: Re: CRZ now on the lots
Post by: ratcityrex on October 10, 2010, 11:34:47 PM
AT widebodys house for amyl nitrate, gaysex underwear modeling and scrabble. You cold paint yourselves blue and lick it off eadh other too you fucking queers


Dude you just made me choke on my drank I was laughing so hard!