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General Category => Hybrid/Tech => Topic started by: Minor Threat on September 29, 2010, 10:22:44 PM

Title: Clutch Fuckery
Post by: Minor Threat on September 29, 2010, 10:22:44 PM
96 Hatch with LS/VTAK swap.

The clutch is a stg 3 comp clutch. The pedal is kinda fucky on it though. When I first put it in, the pedal travel was too far and it would pin the clutch and would not let the transmission go into gear unless I let off on the pedal about half an inch.

I've backed it off enough that for the most part, it goes into gear easily, but the problem still comes back from time to time and it doesn't have a consistent shift feel to it.

The linkage looks ok to me, but I'm open to any and all suggestions.
Title: Re: Clutch Fuckery
Post by: potatodude on September 29, 2010, 11:11:43 PM
Pee on it.
Title: Re: Clutch Fuckery
Post by: Minor Threat on September 29, 2010, 11:27:03 PM
Pee on it.

Did that, also yelling at it did nothing.
Title: Re: Clutch Fuckery
Post by: snm95ls on September 29, 2010, 11:45:12 PM
It's a Comp clutch...


The majority of the time, I hate mine.

Title: Re: Clutch Fuckery
Post by: Minor Threat on September 29, 2010, 11:50:13 PM
It's a Comp clutch...


The majority of the time, I hate mine.



The clutch itself works fine, when it's not doing funny engagement things.

A clutch is pretty simple, if it was fucked up I would expect it to be always fucked up.
Title: Re: Clutch Fuckery
Post by: Joseph Davis on September 30, 2010, 04:31:26 PM
Pee on it.
Title: Re: Clutch Fuckery
Post by: glustic on September 30, 2010, 04:38:02 PM
Get it drunk and have your way with it
Title: Re: Clutch Fuckery
Post by: BoostedSchemes on September 30, 2010, 06:44:40 PM
To bearing fork is pooped I think
Title: Re: Clutch Fuckery
Post by: keelay on September 30, 2010, 10:20:28 PM
Sprung hub? Mine acted like that for about 400 miles previous to spitting out 2 hub springs and semi-permanently locking everything together. Shit sucked, I was 10 hours from home.
Title: Re: Clutch Fuckery
Post by: potatodude on October 01, 2010, 12:06:29 AM
Pee on it.
Title: Re: Clutch Fuckery
Post by: Minor Threat on October 01, 2010, 12:11:13 AM
Sprung hub? Mine acted like that for about 400 miles previous to spitting out 2 hub springs and semi-permanently locking everything together. Shit sucked, I was 10 hours from home.

Nope, unsprung.

I have been doing a lot of reading about CC clutches being junk lately. I will probably fuck with it a little more and if I can't get it working right I'll replace it over the winter.
Title: Re: Clutch Fuckery
Post by: snm95ls on October 01, 2010, 01:20:31 AM
It's a Comp clutch...


The majority of the time, I hate mine.


Title: Re: Clutch Fuckery
Post by: Joseph Davis on October 01, 2010, 11:08:47 AM
Yeah, that makes me sad.  They used to have some good shit.  China supplies?

I guess I'm giving Clutchmasters a try for my car.
Title: Re: Clutch Fuckery
Post by: jabberwock on October 01, 2010, 12:42:00 PM
LSD Mike special
Title: Re: Clutch Fuckery
Post by: Joseph Davis on October 01, 2010, 01:20:13 PM
I need to handle power with a minimum of effort.  His big clutch is still a slab pedal, or else I would go that direction.
Title: Re: Clutch Fuckery
Post by: ifly87 on October 01, 2010, 01:48:42 PM
I've got a prett beefy LSD clutch and it makes you a man driving it around, my left leg is fucking ripped and looks funny next to my right chicken leg. Takes some serious pressure to push that bitch down.
Title: Re: Clutch Fuckery
Post by: Joseph Davis on October 01, 2010, 02:06:50 PM
Exactly, and I'm not a man like you.  I have to buy namby-pamby girl clutches.
Title: Re: Clutch Fuckery
Post by: jabberwock on October 01, 2010, 02:17:46 PM
Drive anything bigger with a clutch and you will love even a stiff 4 banger clutch.  I drive the Jeep with a 4.2 5 speed... the fucking thing has under 100hp and like 200 torque.  When I get in my car and step on the clutch it feels like there's nothing even there.  Man clutches will make you a man.
Title: Re: Clutch Fuckery
Post by: Joseph Davis on October 01, 2010, 02:19:31 PM
I'm not a man.

And having met you, you aren't either.
Title: Re: Clutch Fuckery
Post by: jabberwock on October 01, 2010, 02:20:59 PM
I am fine with using a man clutch, however.

I'm a butch dyke I suppose.
Title: Re: Clutch Fuckery
Post by: jabberwock on October 01, 2010, 02:22:51 PM
When you met me you were like "Whoa, I thought you would be bigger."













Then I showed you how big I was...




and you liekd it
Title: Re: Clutch Fuckery
Post by: Joseph Davis on October 01, 2010, 04:42:47 PM
Don't make me make you not like me.
Title: Re: Clutch Fuckery
Post by: Minor Threat on October 01, 2010, 06:19:15 PM
Yeah, everything is made in China as far as clutch stuff goes, some stuff is just better than others.

The disc I bought from Mike, the PP was sourced locally. I'll prob just buy one of his PP over the winter and call it a day. I'm going to try adjusting the pedal back to the stock specs for free play. travel, etc. tomorrow night, I'll update after that.
Title: Re: Clutch Fuckery
Post by: ratcityrex on October 01, 2010, 06:31:45 PM
I love cable clutches for the ease of adjustability.

Now with that being said, The strongest clutch Pedal I have ever had to use was in my 64 ford F100. Has a 4 speed in it with a granny low, and if you are at a stoplight with the clutch pressed in, by the time you are leaving the light your leg will be trembling.....lol

 Fuck its storng....lol

Title: Re: Clutch Fuckery
Post by: jabberwock on October 01, 2010, 07:09:55 PM
Back then people knew how to drive.. or at least sit at a light in neutral  :P
Title: Re: Clutch Fuckery
Post by: ratcityrex on October 01, 2010, 07:11:47 PM
Back then people knew how to drive.. or at least sit at a light in neutral  :P


IDK about you but I love replacing t.o. bearings...  :yes: :P
Title: Re: Clutch Fuckery
Post by: PhilStubbs on October 01, 2010, 09:15:22 PM
LSD clutches.

 /thread
Title: Re: Clutch Fuckery
Post by: HiProfile on October 03, 2010, 03:34:50 AM
Back then people knew how to drive.. or at least sit at a light in neutral  :P

Back then only MEN drove.


ACT full-face clutches are nice, but their pucks seem to disintegrate easy. I have an HDSS for a B and D series, and the later was on someone else's car for unknown miles plus mine for 10k. I got it for $100, good investment. For more serious street power, I'd recommend the XD-pp's. The HD is stiff vs stock, but seems normal after a hundred miles.

I've heard lots of good things about action clutches. If you don't slip your clutch like crazy, their kevlar clutches will make you happy. The price of LSD clutches tends to let certain things slide. I've also heard good things about the puck-based Exedy clutches. Overall I'd suggest you look around for the high-milage street builds. Some people have >40k miles on a engine build, so they'd have the best idea on a performance street clutch.
Title: Re: Clutch Fuckery
Post by: Minor Threat on October 04, 2010, 07:12:04 PM
Fucked with the pushrod some more now it works well.

I think it was merely out of adjustment
Title: Re: Clutch Fuckery
Post by: Teg2boo on October 04, 2010, 07:24:12 PM
LSD FTW! I wasn't sure how hard it would be to have a pressure plate rated at 415lbs and cable clutch, but finally, it's no that bad.

The clutch feels funny in the girl's Yaris after that. lol
Title: Re: Clutch Fuckery
Post by: Jorsher on October 05, 2010, 11:11:40 AM
So I have the Stg 4 sprung Comp clutch in my LS-VTAK CRX with a hydro conversion.

Motherfucker grips, however it's a pain in the ass to drive in stop/go traffic.  Pedal feel is odd (doesn't engage til top of the pedal), but I think that's due to the conversion and the mc pushrod being a little short -- it's adjusted out far enough that I worry about it unscrewing even though I know it's not really possible.

Anyone else's chatter like crazy on low-rpm starts?  I really only notice it when I'm at the gate to the base and have to very slowly move one car length at a time.  Normal moving from a turn or stop light I can give it a nice bit of RPM, feather the clutch, and not have any chattering.

Moving a small distance where I can't rev it and take off, I get some car-shaking chatter that makes me feel like it's about to fall apart.  On one hand I'm hoping it's an issue with me that I can fix, on the other I'm hoping it's just a property of the clutch...

I hear a lot about these burning out to/thrust bearings...  How much truth to this?  Makes sense that they would, but still wondering.  I have about 20-30k miles on mine without issue so far.  Thrust bearings I'm not too worried about because 1) I use royal purp-al 2) I disengage the clutch until car is warmed up 3) I think I can change them without dropping the engine.  I'm using the throwout that came with the clutch, and I'm assuming/hoping it's made to last with the particular clutch -- I would have to drop the engine to change this out :(
Title: Re: Clutch Fuckery
Post by: snm95ls on October 05, 2010, 12:02:37 PM
You have just described everything that I hate about my CC sprung stage 4.  Well, you didn't mention any high RPM gear lockout....

It seems to be a little more forgiving as the weather has cooled off some, but not a whole lot.

BTW, it seems that a lot of people had/have issues with the release bearing supplied in the kit, and it seems that the common recommendation is to use an OEM Honduh one.  I used one from Worlpac(Sachs I think) and it seems to be doing its job so far.

We'll see I guess.
Title: Re: Clutch Fuckery
Post by: Jorsher on October 05, 2010, 12:18:18 PM
High RPM gear lockout?  Que?  My gears will grind trying to slam through gears at high RPM, mostly 3rd, figured it was the transmission but would be somewhat nice to hear it's a clutch thing...

I will use an OEM next time if this one goes out...  Crossing my fingers that it lasts a while.  Although I've become quite adept at ripping the drivetrain out and reinstalling it in a night after work, I still prefer not to...