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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: chris on October 18, 2011, 07:41:48 PM

Title: Anyone used 5th gear handcuff B Series Transmission
Post by: chris on October 18, 2011, 07:41:48 PM: Or Know someone who has?
Title: Re: Anyone used 5th gear handcuff B Series Transmission
Post by: turbob16hatch on October 18, 2011, 08:12:47 PM: I have seen one in action a few times, seems worthless to me. The trans still destroyed gears.
Title: Re: Anyone used 5th gear handcuff B Series Transmission
Post by: sewell94 on October 18, 2011, 08:50:03 PM: Ive used them, my current trans has a one. My trans also has racer steve treated gears. Id do both again.

Im inclined to think the heat treat helps more. But I have no proof either actually does anything.
Title: Re: Anyone used 5th gear handcuff B Series Transmission
Post by: Joseph Davis on October 18, 2011, 10:27:14 PM: The cuff works if you do the FEA, and I'm certain it works in reality.

However, there's a lot of shit taking place in the real world. You don't drop a cuff in and toss everything back together and expect shit to take it. Going FAR looser than spec on input shaft thrust clearances, reinforced cases, ad nauseam. Firm up how the main and counter shafts are located and everything supporting both front cover and cuff ends has to work harder.

Best budget build is loose input shaft with blocking rings removed, consider cutting every other dog tooth from the gears and lightly filing the remaining ones so that there's less meshing and more compliance upon shifts, similar to what an actual dog box does. We didn't get it perfectly right, but went from flattening a blocking ring or catching a gear every 1.5 times at the track to the gearbox holding together for 14 events before catching third.
Title: Re: Anyone used 5th gear handcuff B Series Transmission
Post by: 2point2 on October 19, 2011, 09:57:15 PM: Quote from: Joseph Davis on October 18, 2011, 10:27:14 PM

Best budget build is loose input shaft with blocking rings removed, consider cutting every other dog tooth from the gears and lightly filing the remaining ones so that there's less meshing and more compliance upon shifts, similar to what an actual dog box does. We didn't get it perfectly right, but went from flattening a blocking ring or catching a gear every 1.5 times at the track to the gearbox holding together for 14 events before catching third.

that is the most interesting thing I have read in a long time. Is this a common practice?
Title: Re: Anyone used 5th gear handcuff B Series Transmission
Post by: sewell94 on October 19, 2011, 10:08:01 PM: Got to hold the tranny in gear when you get rid of the blocking rings and cut the dog teeth???
Title: Re: Anyone used 5th gear handcuff B Series Transmission
Post by: Joseph Davis on October 20, 2011, 08:28:20 AM: Quote from: sewell94 on October 19, 2011, 10:08:01 PM
Got to hold the tranny in gear when you get rid of the blocking rings and cut the dog teeth???

No. You have to be a little aggressive with shifts, and it barely grinds. Sort of a 1/5th strength dog box.
Title: Re: Anyone used 5th gear handcuff B Series Transmission
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on October 20, 2011, 12:27:17 PM: I dont like the IS being too loose. When yo say that, are you talking just taking the non beveled washer out or something thereabouts?