:::RHMT::: Real Home Made Turbo
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: highroller54 on March 06, 2009, 09:52:59 PM
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I felt like Jeff turned his back on us but I really think Chris black cock asian styled the shit out of us. I really think a callathon is in order. I hope his busness suffers.
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Normally I would say something like "I'm sure he has his reasons" or something like that but I kinda feel like he snuck into my house in the middle of the night, rubbed my toothbrush on his ass then left undetected.
I woke up, brushed my teeth but something didnt feel right. Upon closer inspection I found the taint hairs in my toothbrush and felt hurt and taken advantage of.
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you are to nice ;)
Just one reply though?
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FUCK XENOCRON
Is that better? :P I felt angry when Jeff sold the site, but I was thinking in the back of my mind "Atleast he sold it to another member who will carry on HMT"... there were a few changes and I didn't like all of them but went with it... but this shit's ridiculous
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I felt Jeff turned his back on us because he is now a better person thanks to his wife showing him the light. I can live with that though, I dont hold it against him. At least he looked out for us, Chris fed us to the wolves, :'(
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I felt Jeff turned his back on us because he is now a better person thanks to his wife showing him the light. I can live with that though, I dont hold it against him. At least he looked out for us, Chris fed us to the wolves, :'(
Exactly. And he said he tried to sell it to an OG and failed so he sells it to some random cunt bag? He knows damn well if he posted it for sale in OG section people would hop on it like crazy, he was just in it for a quick buck
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Chris said he tryed to sell it to a OG? When was he talking, I thought he went into hiding or protective custody. I would have bought HMT, true story. How much was it sold for?
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He posted on HMT a few times before I was banned, haven't been back to look (since I can't see shit anyways)
Since he bought it for $5k :o I'm assuming for a lot more...
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he says he lost no money on the deal.
has anyone told jeff? im assuming he knows by now?
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Jeff sold is for 5000.00 dollars???????????????????????????
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so what the fuck did xenocron fucknuts sell it to someone else? or just think he is corporate america now? what a peice of shit.
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Jeff sold it to Chris for 7K. At the time it was what it was, I just would have thought I'd get a crack at it, even though Jeff had an issue with me for some reason, that I never figured out, and doesn't matter anymore.
Ok. I guess we're still HMT.
Odd things:
-Xenophobe made a post the other day about how turbothis.net wasn't up anymore or whatever, almost as a jab that we wouldn't have any place to go when what he was planning went down. I guess the joke's on you, fuckfag.
-Last week xenofag made me porn moderator, and I jokingly told him that if I got my 5 black stars back I would increase by 50% the registrations and make 3 porn threads that would total 120,000 views in a years time. I then jokingly told him that when he sold out to Internet Brands I would get 5%. He replied with something about how it was already done. I took that as a joke. Should have known that greaseballs from NJ don't have a sense of humor. He wasn't kidding.
-The odd thing when he made me porn mod is that I had no access to the admin forum, like I had when I was classifieds mod. I can only speculate, but I'd think he either said something about what was going down and didn't want me knowing. I don't know. The other mods seemed in the dark though, too.
-Either way, the members of HMT can't be bought and sold as a commodity. A Canadian is finding that out now, and Chris will find that out after his sellout HMT money is spent and xenocron.com sells dick for breakfast. Fuck em all.
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Wow, $7000. So it was even more than I thought :o
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rumor has it this dumbass canadian rick p paid about 20k for hmt.
he must be a trust fund lame ass or something. or have some rich fatass wife
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ms paint?
(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fweb.archive.org%2Fweb%2F20051217164325%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.homemadeturbo.com%2Fstaff%2Fxeno.jpg&hash=3ed6b82e1bb15334ac9c6c80ce6400904e585b49)
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Hahaha, $20,000..... he got fucked royally on that deal, considering what was inevitable to happen
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Jeff sold it to Chris for 7K. At the time it was what it was, I just would have thought I'd get a crack at it, even though Jeff had an issue with me for some reason, that I never figured out, and doesn't matter anymore.
Ok. I guess we're still HMT.
Odd things:
-Xenophobe made a post the other day about how turbothis.net wasn't up anymore or whatever, almost as a jab that we wouldn't have any place to go when what he was planning went down. I guess the joke's on you, fuckfag.
-Last week xenofag made me porn moderator, and I jokingly told him that if I got my 5 black stars back I would increase by 50% the registrations and make 3 porn threads that would total 120,000 views in a years time. I then jokingly told him that when he sold out to Internet Brands I would get 5%. He replied with something about how it was already done. I took that as a joke. Should have known that greaseballs from NJ don't have a sense of humor. He wasn't kidding.
-The odd thing when he made me porn mod is that I had no access to the admin forum, like I had when I was classifieds mod. I can only speculate, but I'd think he either said something about what was going down and didn't want me knowing. I don't know. The other mods seemed in the dark though, too.
-Either way, the members of HMT can't be bought and sold as a commodity. A Canadian is finding that out now, and Chris will find that out after his sellout HMT money is spent and xenocron.com sells dick for breakfast. Fuck em all.
I cant log in to get the fucking fags picture. But i think we need a photochop thread xeno
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Jeff sold it to Chris for 7K. At the time it was what it was, I just would have thought I'd get a crack at it, even though Jeff had an issue with me for some reason, that I never figured out, and doesn't matter anymore.
Ok. I guess we're still HMT.
Odd things:
-Xenophobe made a post the other day about how turbothis.net wasn't up anymore or whatever, almost as a jab that we wouldn't have any place to go when what he was planning went down. I guess the joke's on you, fuckfag.
-Last week xenofag made me porn moderator, and I jokingly told him that if I got my 5 black stars back I would increase by 50% the registrations and make 3 porn threads that would total 120,000 views in a years time. I then jokingly told him that when he sold out to Internet Brands I would get 5%. He replied with something about how it was already done. I took that as a joke. Should have known that greaseballs from NJ don't have a sense of humor. He wasn't kidding.
-The odd thing when he made me porn mod is that I had no access to the admin forum, like I had when I was classifieds mod. I can only speculate, but I'd think he either said something about what was going down and didn't want me knowing. I don't know. The other mods seemed in the dark though, too.
-Either way, the members of HMT can't be bought and sold as a commodity. A Canadian is finding that out now, and Chris will find that out after his sellout HMT money is spent and xenocron.com sells dick for breakfast. Fuck em all.
I am pretty fucking sure I read a comment or two hinting at the site changing hands before the whole thing went down. It confused me and I brushed it off as typical drunken HMT nonsense.
Wish I could remember who said it and where...
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fucking canadians
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(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg27.imageshack.us%2Fimg27%2F475%2Flolwtf.png&hash=51db44018a1c0cfa060c841690182df724f2aa83)
lol, 40 seconds in paint ftw
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not enough hatred.
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Everything else I've made just turns out creepy.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snafubmx234
Bump for a sellout. Thanks for turning your back on everybody Chris. You just lost a lot of good customers.
I hope you go under.
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Originally Posted by xenocron
my personal decisions in life have affected you so greatly that you have to go out of your way to try and publicly make my business look bad...truly and pathetically weak.
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Originally Posted by Snafubmx234
And hey, if I'm totally wrong about this situation, and it was totally a good move for the HMT community, please inform me. I've spent lots of money supporting your business when I could have gone to someone else, so don't tell me I'm pathetically weak. I would have thought that HMT ment more to you than a FUCKing dollar sign.
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Originally Posted by xenocron
for your info, i made me and my business who i am, not HMT...although that was a part of it. because i was able make my business successful i was able to buy HMT...if I hadnt who knows who Jeff might have sold it to, maybe i shouldnt have bought it and i wouldnt be having these issues right now
i didnt say it was a good move for the HMT community, but i hope it is...this guy is obviously successful at what he does and when the crybabies calm down...who knows what might happen
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Fuck that faggot. HMT made his ass, and now it'll break him. Same shit that happened to customcroch.
Yeah, I'm poor, but I still have the business HMT helped me create, and I still (and never will) sell my soul. See you in hell, bitchboy.
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3500 posts please... AND NO WIDEBODY :-*
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LOL. He better pucker up and start sucking Honda Tech dick because he doesn't sell shit that you can't buy off digikey or moates besides some odd prepped shit.
i got a PM from him once saying somehting along the lines of "thanks alot asshole" because i had posted the digikey link to the 3 bar map sensors for half the price he sells them for
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xeno needs a 2 week long home/work callathon
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LOL. He better pucker up and start sucking Honda Tech dick because he doesn't sell shit that you can't buy off digikey or moates besides some odd prepped shit.
i got a PM from him once saying somehting along the lines of "thanks alot asshole" because i had posted the digikey link to the 3 bar map sensors for half the price he sells them for
or how about he got pissed at me when I was selling map sensors for 1/3 his price, basically said something along the same lines as the "thanks alot asshole" that he wrote to you
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call-a-thon fallowed buy the silent treatment 8)
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I had a stack of ECU's here for that dickhead, too.
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and i got banned for telling people where to come.
what a fag.
nvm vbulletin is just being gay.
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and i got banned for telling people where to come.
what a fag.
nvm vbulletin is just being gay.
no, same thing happened to me. He must have put us in some group to where we can't do shit.
I couldn't even make a new account because he banned my IP as well. I had to use a proxy to make a new account and be able to post.
fucking sucks.
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I made a new name, but he never approved it.
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I predict this thread turning to sticky. :P
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for those who arent banned, can you still get to it? now the site doesnt even load....
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Server is too busy at the moment.
::)
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Server is too busy at the moment.
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I get the same thing. How gay.
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Hmmm then so it has begun... Ive been banned and not told, both BDVT and hotrexhasherpes user accounts are doing that
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I've been banned too.
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I was with HMT for a year and planned on spending money with chris.
Now i guess RealHMT is where home is now, black hornet thanks you
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So. Who else still can't pull the trigger on deleting the HMT link from your firefox menu screen...
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rawr has informed me Rick is banning people and putting a script in that makes it look like the website's fucking up instead of saying you're banned.
haha i knew it, posted it on downwithhomemadeturbo, the old miserable mode hack.
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rawr has informed me Rick is banning people and putting a script in that makes it look like the website's fucking up instead of saying you're banned.
haha i knew it, posted it on downwithhomemadeturbo, the old miserable mode hack.
Indeed. He banned bryantaylor on mt.net this morning and under his grayyed out name it said "I'm Miserable!". Guess I know what that means now. I got banned this evening and all I get is lame server errors. Good news is a friend of mine just bought a domain and he's making another miata turbo forum. ;D
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WHat a fucking fagot
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http://forum.egypt.com/enforum/mods-3-8-x-f196/miserable-users-6876.html (http://forum.egypt.com/enforum/mods-3-8-x-f196/miserable-users-6876.html)
hes got that shit running on me right now >:(
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ATTN> if you are registered here, you will probably be banned from the Faggot-fail site.
THey are watching lol.
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Wow for $7k I would have bought HMT in a heart beat, I pissed that much money away on "hold my beer, watch this"
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Wow for $7k I would have bought HMT in a heart beat, I pissed that much money away on "hold my beer, watch this"
LMAO, tell me about it. i think he should have at least made a FS post for the site
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http://forum.egypt.com/enforum/mods-3-8-x-f196/miserable-users-6876.html (http://forum.egypt.com/enforum/mods-3-8-x-f196/miserable-users-6876.html)
hes got that shit running on me right now >:(
+1 including the account that I made after, hoping to read the fall out.
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Wow the same shit is happening to me as well, what a douchebag.
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same thing is happening to me fuck this place seems good I have no need to go back in there. I just need to work on making myself hate Xenocron.
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I'm thinking that group is rather large.
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It's total bullshit what Chris said. I don't know if I can boycott his site because he provides good service and support... Let's see what happens.
3500 posts please... AND NO WIDEBODY :-*
Agreed!
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http://forum.egypt.com/enforum/mods-3-8-x-f196/miserable-users-6876.html (http://forum.egypt.com/enforum/mods-3-8-x-f196/miserable-users-6876.html)
Apparently I am affected by this too. Rick can suck a dick. Last night he was talking to us all fine in the admin forum, he is FREAKING OUT right now, guaranteed.
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he is FREAKING OUT right now, guaranteed.
I hope so, We are going to leave that site a ghost town.
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that would be epic. I think we should start importing worthy threads asap too. what's the best way to go about this? I'm on fucking spring break right now so I have a week to fuck around.
Look at mine in FI, I just copy and pasted quoted the original author, and re hosted images at image shack.... Illl help more on this subject
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i've access to a feb 08 backup so at least up until then we have everything
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I'm not banned and have access to everything but the OG forum. Then again I didn't register here as The Tough(MT). ;)
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rawr has informed me Rick is banning people and putting a script in that makes it look like the website's fucking up instead of saying you're banned.
I figured that......
what a fag
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drama...
I know only tidbits since I didnt really want to get involved (not my money/life/business), but in Chris' defense, the site was not bought or sold to make money from what I gather. Chris turned this guy down in the past when he came to him, and the "og" who was interested in buying the site kept dragging his heels/complicating things.
I wont say any numbers since i am not positive about anything, but the $$ amounts you guys are throwing around are certainly waaaaaaaay higher than what hmt was sold for. I'm pretty sure that when it was going to be sold to the other person chris was even going to lose money but i forget.
Anyway, from what chris told me it seemed that rick told him the only big change was that he was switching to vbulletin. Id wager that if chris knew this guy was going to be banning everyone, etc, etc then he wouldn't have even considered it. I knew this would go all wrong, hell I almost bought homemadeturbo.net a few days ago but I wouldnt know what to do with it anyway lol.
Jeff...I could tell over the phone that you were upset and probably thought I shouldve done something. I feel for you man, but it wasnt my place and to be honest I thought this guy was just going to toss up some ads or something, not start censoring and banning people. He (rick) even brought up not charging the sponsors for a while so then I thought he would be cool and just was some guy who liked owning sites or something. I guess I was being naive.
I hope the hmt community survives wherever it is, i just wonder what the legal ramifications are when you "copy" a site. Bringing backups of hmt over here might be the wrong way to go, but I'm no lawyer.
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That bastard never got a dollar from me and never will. Hell HMT won't even load on my puter. No biggie. I'm never heading back and hope Chris's shop goes tits up and then offs himself.
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Well did the contract of ownership change have any mention of these actions? I highly doubt it. If Chris Harris wanted it to truly stay the same he's a business man he should know everything should be in writing. That the staff stay unchanged.The only change was only going to be new software. No banning of sponsors without numerous warnings etc.If he would of had it in writing that these actions never to be broken the guy would of never bought it.
Im sorry he made a deal with the Devil. He may have not seen it coming but everyone else sure did. When I spoke with Chris on the phone he really did seem like he was in shock but it looks like he didnt do his homework on things like this.
The guy who bought it did it for money. Had he ever logged into the site or even posted? He saw bandwidth and a possibility to pull profit after a couple years thats the truth plain and simple
Its what the guy does for a living Im assuming?
I was thrown out of being mod for asking about my pm's has I needed to reach my customers. Thats what pissed me off the most. Thats one thing Im on top off is letting my customers know what is going on etc. Im one guy so I cant process orders has fast has a large company but to let people know Im on it I pm them. That fucntion was taking away and that is taking money out of my pocket and making people nervous. That in my book is when the line is drawn in the sand for me. I bust my ass to create unique products/services that work and the DEVIL who knows nothing about these cars decides to silence me for asking about pm function
I didnt use a curse word. Wrote it clearly and respectfully.
drama...
I know only tidbits since I didnt really want to get involved (not my money/life/business), but in Chris' defense, the site was not bought or sold to make money from what I gather. Chris turned this guy down in the past when he came to him, and the "og" who was interested in buying the site kept dragging his heels/complicating things.
I wont say any numbers since i am not positive about anything, but the $$ amounts you guys are throwing around are certainly waaaaaaaay higher than what hmt was sold for. I'm pretty sure that when it was going to be sold to the other person chris was even going to lose money but i forget.
Anyway, from what chris told me it seemed that rick told him the only big change was that he was switching to vbulletin. Id wager that if chris knew this guy was going to be banning everyone, etc, etc then he wouldn't have even considered it. I knew this would go all wrong, hell I almost bought homemadeturbo.net a few days ago but I wouldnt know what to do with it anyway lol.
Jeff...I could tell over the phone that you were upset and probably thought I shouldve done something. I feel for you man, but it wasnt my place and to be honest I thought this guy was just going to toss up some ads or something, not start censoring and banning people. He (rick) even brought up not charging the sponsors for a while so then I thought he would be cool and just was some guy who liked owning sites or something. I guess I was being naive.
I hope the hmt community survives wherever it is, i just wonder what the legal ramifications are when you "copy" a site. Bringing backups of hmt over here might be the wrong way to go, but I'm no lawyer.
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I drove a hour to meet that little cunt.
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Well did the contract of ownership change have any mention of these actions? I highly doubt it. If Chris Harris wanted it to truly stay the same he's a business man he should know everything should be in writing. That the staff stay unchanged.The only change was only going to be new software. No banning of sponsors without numerous warnings etc.If he would of had it in writing that these actions never to be broken the guy would of never bought it.
I honestly have no idea. Just as when jeff sold it, I doubt there was a contract.
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I hope the hmt community survives wherever it is, i just wonder what the legal ramifications are when you "copy" a site. Bringing backups of hmt over here might be the wrong way to go, but I'm no lawyer.
Im sorta worried about the same thing. This guy seems like a faggot enough to pursue it to.
I would love to hear from Chris. His products are the same thing every other seller sells, and its simple to go elsewhere. I think his business is going to hurt.
A for sale thread would have been the proper way to go about things.
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i dont know if this has been posted already...
quoted from Xenohomo
From the bottom of my heart, I apologize to all of HMT
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Let me first state, that in no way shape or form did I ever intended to offend anyone when I first purchased site or when I sold it. Whether your rational in your hatred of me or not, I still love you all...
I maybe got 2 hours of sleep last night, tossing and turning in bed because of how bad I feel, if I had better options and had I known how this was going to unveil itself, I certainly would have done things differently.
First when I agreed on the sale with Rick, I first wanted to make sure the Sponsors that have supported this site would be taken care of. As I honored when Jeff sold me the site, I made sure that anyone who had paid for months of sponsorship would be allowed to stay on in the same capacity until the end of their sponsorship if not more. Also, others who had monthly subscriptions would be getting a Free sponsorship until Rick had talked with them about whatever options he was going to have with them and once the site transition had "smoothed" over.
Second, he told me nothing would change about the forum, other than the VB change and I assumed adds. We are all members of other VB sites with adds and more...he wanted to keep the color scheme, look, feel and NATURE of this site in tact.
I thought HMT would react negatively, but I had hoped that there COULD be a long term benefit to new site owner, and I still hope their can be, although I am really not all that happy with the transition...at this point, I wish I could do more to help that, bitching about it though isnt something that will help.
Why did I buy the site? I bought it because I had friendships here, I grew as a business here and as a moderator. I had vested interests in this place and I liked the idea of a forum of individuals who looked up to me. I didnt want to see the place unmanaged or rogue, only to go completely down the shitter into non-existance. I didnt want to see it go to "Internet Brands" or the like.
Why did I sell the site? I sold it because once I purchased it, I turned into "DAD" and every time I logged in, I was doing things I didnt want to have to be responsible (or liable) for. I barely got to post as a member, or as a moderator...I didnt have the time between my private life, my business life. I felt dragged down and depressed half the time...so I started looking for options that would benefit the site.
First I went to the mods, I asked what suggestions they had...how we could make the site better. I asked if any of them would be interested in buying "shares" in HMT to mitigate a large purchase and give them more vested interest in the site. I thought I could transfer some (not all) of that responsibility to a group of individuals, and with whatever profits the site actually made, split it between the owners evenly. I thought maybe we could raise some extra money to put into events, raffles...etc, to bring back install days or community (HMT) events. Like most things on the net, some people were partially interested but no one bit.
So I went to the other two people that Jeff had previously asked to buy the site, and gave them first dibs, one seemed interested and wanted to buy the site, but he dragged ass and made the process difficult. I just wanted to get back exactly what i paid to Jeff, no more...no less and I just wanted to hand over the keys to the castle. He wanted contracts, and negotiations...and it just made the whole process difficult. When I finally said YES, it took him over two months to get back to me and after that two month period I was kind of flying high on HMT again, I was happy with it.
Oddly enough, Rick had re-contacted me shortly after that and made me a significant offer that I could not refuse. I did urge him to keep the same SMF forum, but he is familiar with VB. I told him you are a special group of people and he seemed to understand as he has been through transitions before.
The way things are being handled now, and the kick back this has caused for me (on a personal level) makes me seriously regret my decision.
If Rick wanted to sell me back the forum tomorrow for the same price, I'd take it back and find a better way...if I could, at this point I imagine its too late.
Sorry for the drama, sorry for the heartache I'm sure this has caused some of you...but maybe a DRASTIC change like this can be good, I hope it can.
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Well did the contract of ownership change have any mention of these actions? I highly doubt it. If Chris Harris wanted it to truly stay the same he's a business man he should know everything should be in writing. That the staff stay unchanged.The only change was only going to be new software. No banning of sponsors without numerous warnings etc.If he would of had it in writing that these actions never to be broken the guy would of never bought it.
I honestly have no idea. Just as when jeff sold it, I doubt there was a contract.
Jeff and Chris were friends who knew each other for years. Jeff flew to New york not for business but to meet a bunch of you guys from the east coast. Hell pinks was started by Chris and who did he call Jeff. He didnt call internet Canada BOyeeeeeee!
A need for a contract shouldn't be needed in a situation like that. A hand shake and verbal agreement between friends is what society should be about.
Dealing with internet forum buyer DEVIL=Lawyers and contracts drawn and re-written before all terms are meet.
I told Chris twice I wanted to discuss more of ownership before this happened. I never got a response back. I had almost enough backing money wise to buy it back for the original figure it was sold to Chris. If he would contacted me I know myself would of come up with something like I always have to make it happen.
I started my business with a damn unemployment check in the highest poverty striken area of California. If I can make that work I sure has hell could of made HMT belong to myself and the 20,000 users.
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Im still lost of How I was left in the dark. I was one of the people jeff first contacted about buying HMT. I was the lowest bidder has Im the one man show.
Then Im the guy who when Chris Harris was wanting to bail came out and I said Im down lets work something out. I never got a repsonse back. I have done enough business with Chris he knows Im not some drop ship make 300 bucks internet site. Hell you know too you sign for all the packages I ship to you guys.
I have my own product lines that shit is hardly cheap to start.
Im honestly HURT by the fact that I tried to make something happen and was brushed off.
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Im still lost of How I was left in the dark. I was one of the people jeff first contacted about buying HMT.
That is because 95% of the shit coming out of Xeno mouth right now is complete bullshit. One post in the og section would have gotten him his money in less then a week. That is of coarse the $7000 that he claims not the $20,000 that rick claims.
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friendship and verbal agreement's dont mean shit to people like Xenocron. As long as he gets his cash he could give a fuck less, selling the site is proof of that. His only reason to sell HMT was for money, Makes all the Sponsors Pay for a full year then sells the site and says he didnt do it for the money ::)
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His only reason to sell HMT was for money, Makes all the Sponsors Pay for a full year then sells the site and says he didnt do it for the money ::)
only a few are paid up for a year...which was part of the "agreement" with the canuck. He will honor all sponsors' previous payments, thats about the only detail i know.
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His only reason to sell HMT was for money, Makes all the Sponsors Pay for a full year then sells the site and says he didnt do it for the money ::)
only a few are paid up for a year...which was part of the "agreement" with the canuck. He will honor all sponsors' previous payments, thats about the only detail i know.
what about the sponsors that are banned ::)
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His only reason to sell HMT was for money, Makes all the Sponsors Pay for a full year then sells the site and says he didnt do it for the money ::)
only a few are paid up for a year...which was part of the "agreement" with the canuck. He will honor all sponsors' previous payments, thats about the only detail i know.
what about the sponsors that are banned ::)
I don't get how you can just ban paying vendors, makes no sense to me :-X
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I can somewhat see Chris's motives, but I think it would have been better off if he would have talked it over with the OG's and sponsors. I'm sure someone or a collection of people would have bought it.
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how long did Chris own it for?
FUCK XENOCRON
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His only reason to sell HMT was for money, Makes all the Sponsors Pay for a full year then sells the site and says he didnt do it for the money ::)
only a few are paid up for a year...which was part of the "agreement" with the canuck. He will honor all sponsors' previous payments, thats about the only detail i know.
what about the sponsors that are banned ::)
Im too lazy to look right now...who got banned?
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stealthmode, imburne..........
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stealthmode, imburne..........
i dont know what stealthmode did...but he hasnt been a sponsor for a long time. Imburne paid chris in t-shirts so maybe rick didnt know (something very similar happened when jeff sold it to chris since some people paid jeff in parts, blah blah blah). Not saying they shouldve been banned, i dont know the whole story obviously.
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stealthmode, imburne..........
i dont know the whole story obviously.
me niether
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I feel for him, but still, should have been discussed amongst the old guard. Fuck, I could have, should have, would have, bought it.. SB moneys been burning a hole in my pocket.
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Jeff...I could tell over the phone that you were upset and probably thought I shouldve done something. I feel for you man, but it wasnt my place and to be honest I thought this guy was just going to toss up some ads or something, not start censoring and banning people. He (rick) even brought up not charging the sponsors for a while so then I thought he would be cool and just was some guy who liked owning sites or something. I guess I was being naive.
Jay
I am going to fuck up chris harris, and you can quote me on that. This isnt internet gansta talk either my friend.
Nobody fucks me over like this period.
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Fuck that faggot. HMT made his ass, and now it'll break him. Same shit that happened to customcroch.
Yeah, I'm poor, but I still have the business HMT helped me create, and I still (and never will) sell my soul. See you in hell, bitchboy.
xenocron wouldnt be shit without HMT for exposure.
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Jay
I am going to fuck up chris harris, and you can quote me on that. This isnt internet gansta talk either my friend.
Nobody fucks me over like this period.
Oh snap :o
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Hey Jeff, you got a PM coming at some point, it may be worth a read...
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ever since Xenofaggot got HMT ownership
I've had WHERE IS JEFF on my H-T sig because I kept getting banned for calling him out
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I still can't believe this shit. I honestly though better of Chris.
I am sorely disappointed in his actions and judgement in this manner. I wish no ill on him, but I doubt he will continue to get my business. From now on I will buy straight from Craig Moates, as well as others like Calvin.
Fucking aye.
The total grassroots nature of this place, which includes the members as well as the site itself, is what I have always loved about it. The antics of the past, and the amount of freedom are what made HMT unique on the web. Thankfully action was taken so that we can preserve what we have all come to call home on the web.
I too wonder about the legal ramifications of basically copying the forum.
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The total grassroots nature of this place, which includes the members as well as the site itself, is what I have always loved about it. The antics of the past, and the amount of freedom are what made HMT unique on the web.
Thomas Jefferson shit
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Jeff...I could tell over the phone that you were upset and probably thought I shouldve done something. I feel for you man, but it wasnt my place and to be honest I thought this guy was just going to toss up some ads or something, not start censoring and banning people. He (rick) even brought up not charging the sponsors for a while so then I thought he would be cool and just was some guy who liked owning sites or something. I guess I was being naive.
Jay
I am going to fuck up chris harris, and you can quote me on that. This isnt internet gansta talk either my friend.
Nobody fucks me over like this period.
damm.... its that serious?
post pics after said beatdown.
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westside
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I too wonder about the legal ramifications of basically copying the forum.
they look nothing alike now and im sure any tech/write ups that you posted or anybody else here had posted in the past is still their intelectual property and they can post it anywhere they want to.
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westside
is the best side nigga!
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EAST SIDEEEEEE
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EAST SIDEEEEEE
Is the weak side ;D
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Sucks that nothing cool rhymes with east.
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FEAST
LEAST
MUCKING FAGGOT-AST
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YEAST SIDE NIGGA!
The title of this thread should be changed to "Who knows xenocron is a piece of shit"
I see what you did there...
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BUMP
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Damn long read
Xeno is a sell out
I hope all the bad things in life happen to him and only him.
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hey jeff.. i like the bangbus
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BUMP
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hey jeff.. i like the bangbus
speaking of bangbus, someone needs to go back and get all the p/w I posted in the OG forum!! Someone that's not banned!
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I gotta say, this was a shitty move on his part. Very thoughtless. I'm sure he regrets it now, but it's obviously much too late.
The old HMT is dead to me, and soon enough it will just be dead in general. This is my new home. Old HMT is tainted and I will never go back. It's like why Jeff sold his old CRX because it had been stolen, just felt wrong.
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hey jeff.. i like the bangbus
speaking of bangbus, someone needs to go back and get all the p/w I posted in the OG forum!! Someone that's not banned!
im on it
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It aint much but xeno already lost a eCtune sale from me out of the deal. I wont be sending anyone else there for shit either. Probably about a 2k a year hit just from loss of sales by me.
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It aint much but xeno already lost a eCtune sale from me out of the deal. I wont be sending anyone else there for shit either. Probably about a 2k a year hit just from loss of sales by me.
I was planning on buying s300 from him plus an ecu... but looks like I will have to look elsewhere, anyone know of a reputable place?
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I bought a laptop last week so I can learn to tune, the tuning stuff was next. I will pay triple for it somewere else, anywere other then xenocock.
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I bought a laptop last week so I can learn to tune, the tuning stuff was next. I will pay triple for it somewere else, anywere other then xenocock.
Is the TPRC the first victim?
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I bought a laptop last week so I can learn to tune, the tuning stuff was next. I will pay triple for it somewere else, anywere other then xenocock.
Is the TPRC the first victim?
look for windowed block post comming soon :noel:
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I bought a laptop last week so I can learn to tune, the tuning stuff was next. I will pay triple for it somewere else, anywere other then xenocock.
Is the TPRC the first victim?
look for windowed block post comming soon :noel:
Been there done that a few times, one of the many reasons I am going to the NC tooners fest if it is still on.
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I for one, do not think that Chris is a piece of shit. He just didnt go about it in the best way. I will still buy things as needed from his business. No big deal.
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What gets me is about 1 week prior to the sale, someone mentioned something about having donations for HMT. A bunch of people steped up and were willing to donate but xeno woudn't except. He said that the sponsers more then paid for it and he wouldn't except donations. It must have already been in the works by then.
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I don't think he's a piece of shit either just made a really poor decision. I believe he is honest about feeling bad, remember he was part of the hmt family before he bought it. However i used support him as a sponsor now I will buy from other sources if they have better prices.
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I dont understand how anyone can think what he did was cool and we should all love him again because he said sorry ???
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I dont understand how anyone can think what he did was cool and we should all love him again because he said sorry ???
I might be mistaken but from what i understand no one is saying what he did was cool and still 'love' him, but also i feel the same way as you guys, not about him as a person because i dont know him personally but i just think he made a genuine mistake with the WRONG group of people, didnt think this through and now he's paying for it and knows that. i'm just glad that this time around you guys stood your stance, and is building RHMT up from nothing. turbothis failed but i dont think anyone really expected it to last.
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Hes never been anything but fair to me customer/merchant wise. I bought all my tuning shit from him. Pretty fucked up how it went down over HMT though.
MantisX
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I think you guys may be a little hard on him. He said over and over that he didn't know that RickP was going to alter the site as he did, and I believe him.
It came down to a mistake in judgment, it's not as though he has taken the money and run, he has tried to get the site back and even taken more then his fair share of verbal beatings and I bet spam to his business.
You have to figure in this day and age, with the state of the economy selling aftermarket Honda parts and tuning them is probably not the most lucrative, people have wives, kids and mortgages to take care of. It's easy to call it at face value , but no one knows the real story. For him the 35K could have meant paying his mortgage and bills on time or loosing his business.
and as pissed as you all may be about the situation, something great came of it. A lot of the Noobs were purged and left on the old HMT, while the size of the forum may have shrunk, the camaraderie grew 10 fold.
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I dont understand how anyone can think what he did was cool and we should all love him again because he said sorry ???
i have to be honest. when he posted up the sorry thread on the old site i immeditaly went to a "Oh shit how do we unfuck this" and shoot him an email and created i think 2 threads that were ultimately deleted saying help chris buy it back.
More i think about it though the more i just dont fucking get it. If you are sick of your daddy duties ont eh site then you are certainly doing it wrong. you delegate out to yoru admins and if that isnt working well get new or more admins. sellign the site is sorta like a last ditch effort not even mentioning the fact that this site has more community than most states or counties. I cant think of anywhere else where fuckers who have never seen each other showed up from as far as cali to chill at a members house for an HMT meet. thats fucking impressive.
I agree we shouldnt beat a dead horse and im sure hes really beat up on him self for it but.... Dude that action is soley responsible for killing an endangered species. To wierd to live to rare to die.
you killed a unicorn. but like only if unicorns were totaly badass with like laser beam eyes and fire mains and could spit fire like dragons or something like that. yeah.
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I agree we shouldnt beat a dead horse and im sure hes really beat up on him self for it but.... Dude that action is soley responsible for killing an endangered species. To wierd to live to rare to die.
you killed a unicorn. but like only if unicorns were totaly badass with like laser beam eyes and fire mains and could spit fire like dragons or something like that. yeah.
Truth.
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You have to figure in this day and age, with the state of the economy selling aftermarket Honda parts and tuning them is probably not the most lucrative, people have wives, kids and mortgages to take care of. It's easy to call it at face value , but no one knows the real story. For him the 35K could have meant paying his mortgage and bills on time or loosing his business.
Chris' income is none of my business, but I do have reason to believe he is doing pretty dam good for himself. Chris went from the guy who sold ECU parts in dollar general sandwich bags to chipping ECU's on a school desk he got out of the trash to owning a gas station to now having an employee and a full time business that he runs himself. Also, IIRC he left his engineering position to fullfill the xenocron tuning thing. I don't think he was hurting for money.
He didn't sell it to put food on his table. Where he went wrong is selling it to a nobody. Selling out on everyone without anyone knowing. He says he tried to sell it to a few of 'his' moderators and I believe him...but IMO i'd venture to say that there is somoene on that forum who would have boughten HMT and not run it straight into the ground. If he didn't want the hassle of running the forum along with his day to day personal and business life, he should have paid someone from HMT to help him out with that, and maybe brought on a few more sponsors to cover the cost of paying someone to run the forum. HMT was growing, and growing fast. There are many different ways HMT could have went, what happened was the absolute worst way it could have gone.
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See thats what i mean. I can think of atleast 17 different possibilites if it was as simple as He was tired of it or it costed too much or someshit like that. We all have our opinions of certain members for whatever reasons over teh years but lets face it, at this point widebooty would have been a better choice than a random Rick.
the more i think about it I just cant fathom what brought him to the "I'll sell it to the highest bidder" thoguht.
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I'll throw my opinion out there.
He made a mistake, whether it was a thoroughly thought out fiendish mistake or a piss-poor split-second decision, no-one but him will know. Shit happened and here we are.
You ever meet a girl that talks constantly about her ex-boyfriend? That's now RHMT feels right now. lol
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I'll throw my opinion out there.
He made a mistake, whether it was a thoroughly thought out fiendish mistake or a piss-poor split-second decision, no-one but him will know. Shit happened and here we are.
You ever meet a girl that talks constantly about her ex-boyfriend? That's now RHMT feels right now. lol
QFT.
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I'll throw my opinion out there.
He made a mistake, whether it was a thoroughly thought out fiendish mistake or a piss-poor split-second decision, no-one but him will know. Shit happened and here we are.
You ever meet a girl that talks constantly about her ex-boyfriend? That's now RHMT feels right now. lol
:D
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He no longer has my business. I'll have to buy from someone else that doesn't fuck shit up. He had to know that he was messing with so many people on so many levels. HMT is or was a place for people to shoot the shit, make racist jokes, pron, car projects, a place for knowledge ( car-wise anyway), the list goes on. It's the one place I can find all of this, and I can't believe that he didn't take better care of something so huge. How can someone just give up like that on everyone? How could he claim to of been playing "Daddy?" What father in his right mind would toss his baby into Hell? I'll tell you who, the fucking Devil. Typing this is pissing me off more and more.
I'm thankful for whomever setup this site. I'll admit that I haven't been much of a contributor. I mostly just read and pm, but I've helped out by spending my money at the sponsors sites (including Xeno >:( ) before looking somewhere else for my parts. I never hesitated to donate back in the Jeff days despite being broke. I know it's early on for this site, but is there anything setup for site donations yet?
Cj
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You ever meet a girl that talks constantly about her ex-boyfriend? That's now RHMT feels right now. lol
No shit. again QFT.
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but is there anything setup for site donations yet?
Nope, dont worry about donations.
However If you send Chris Harris a sack of steamy dog or human shit, I would appricate that.
thanks
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A funny thing you mention that. I've been holding it for the last 30 minutes or so. I'm sitting here posting while waiting for my wife to finish cutting her hair in the bathroom. Perhaps, I don't even need the bathroom, I could find a paper bag ...........
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no balls to go in and take a shit while your wife is cutting her hair.
and pics or ban mother fucker.
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Damn that felt good! I should have taken pics of it, but the worst/best part was the smell. I wish I could have sent that shit. Now she's bitching about the house stinking.
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wait so did you poop while she was in there?????
HOLY FUCKING GROSS DUDE. YOUR ASS CHEECKS WERE AKIMBO WHILE YOUR WIFE WAS THERE. POOP PARTICLES FLY EVERYWHERE.
uh yo.
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Damn that felt good! I should have taken pics of it, but the worst/best part was the smell. I wish I could have sent that shit. Now she's bitching about the house stinking.
Ha... now just wait till shes in there in the shower some day ...... The steam is an "enhancer"
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there is nothing worse than a stinky fart in the shower.
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when my wife is taking a shower i grab some jugs and fill them with cold ass water.
dump that shit over the top of the curtains :evil:
fun shit right there. then turn off the light as i leave.
our bathroom doesn't have any windows in it. no light on = pitch black
all classic events. Another great one is to reach in and flip the water to cold. O0
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Thatll learn em
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just wanted to add that i feel xeno is a piece of shit as well and i never really liked the guy/thought he had good intentions besides business. i may never have good intentions about anything but at least im not trying to ruin hmt
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I was actually there when Jeff (abaz) called Chris and could tell that Chris was upset about the situation, he was kind of surprised i showed up to. I got extreemly attached to the site quick as most of you guys are like me not rich with a passion for cars which normally requires you to be rich. I knew i could build my set-up but would not have followed through without this site, and for it to get trashed like it did my first reaction was fuck xeno and ill lose that $50 deposit i made for the 6th (day after the fallout). After talking to him I ended up goin he made the power i wanted so i will prob be going back for tuning. I think that those who called him friend would have alot more of a reason to be pissed at him than I (and alot of members on the fuck Xeno bandwagon) was tho.
Cliffs: am i pissed at xeno: a little
do i see why others are extreemly pissed off: Yes
will i still do buisness with him: prob
anyone give a fuck: No
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porn....
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damn wahts a fuck if he thinks he made Xenocron.com all by him self, i remember when he was jsut a S/N on HMT, then he started getting bigger,
this whole situation seems pretty selfish in general,
but what eva ban his ass from this site and we'll carry on!! OGHMT for life!! O0