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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: notfastcrx on July 09, 2009, 09:27:35 PM
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for those who watch ufc. all others go back to drinking whisky and banging your step-sister. ;D
who is watching on ppv and what are your picks?
heres my picks
Main Card
Brock Lesnar vs. Frank Mir - Mir
Georges St. Pierre vs. Thiago Alves - GSP
Jon Fitch vs. Paulo Thiago - Fitch
Dan Henderson vs. Michael Bisping - Hendo
Preliminary Card
Mark Coleman vs. Stephen Bonnar - Bonnar
Mac Danzig vs. Jim Miller - Danzig
Jon Jones vs. Jake O’Brien - Jon Jones all the way b/c he's from my town
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who I want to win:
mir
gsp
fitch
hendo
coleman
miller
jones
who I think will win:
cock
gsp
thiago
bispy
coleman
miller
jones
Shit thats what I was thinking.
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Kimbo slice robs frank mir at gunpoint
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Kimbo slice robs frank mir at beardpoint
that guy looks freaky as hell bald bearded
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Main Card
Brock Lesnar vs. Frank Mir
Georges St. Pierre vs. Thiago Alves
Jon Fitch vs. Paulo Thiago
Dan Henderson vs. Michael Bisping
get sum O0
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Only person I dont want to win is Bisping.
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Main Card
Brock Lesnar vs. Frank Mir - brock
Georges St. Pierre vs. Thiago Alves - i want thiago to win but probably gsp
Jon Fitch vs. Paulo Thiago - jon fitch all the way
Dan Henderson vs. Michael Bisping - bisping, hendo's a cockfag
Preliminary Card
Mark Coleman vs. Stephen Bonnar - like em both, probably coleman
Mac Danzig vs. Jim Miller - danzig
Jon Jones vs. Jake O’Brien - jones
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i dunno man the brock dude is a tool but gotta give him props for not pulling a Kimbo.
Ive been corrected. I hear kimbo is training and is looking better? trying to earn his way into UFC now?
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we need more threads like these
my pick
Main Card
Mir
GSP(thiago might pull an upset though)
Fitch
Hendo(he coming back baby)
Preliminary Card
Bonnar(never count him out)
Danzig
O’Brien
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I like Bonnar. He's ugly, he's strong, he's dangerous, basically I think he eats babies as part of his training regimen. He has some flaws, sure, most of which are getting worse because he's slowing down a litle with age. But he still has some good fights in him, even if he's not a top contender.
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i dunno man the brock dude is a tool but gotta give him props for not pulling a Kimbo.
Ive been corrected. I hear kimbo is training and is looking better? trying to earn his way into UFC now?
Google kimbo he is on the ultimate fighter upcoming season
Unlike boxing which takes a lifetime to become a average at best the UFC has alot of guys who are in their mid 30's who are just couple years deep into training so who knows maybe the Nog will be around for awhile. Either way people want to see a Black guy win.
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I dunno about just wanting to see a black man win. I could care less about your skin color I want to see a good fight.
Kimbo has some raw street appeal, but the way he started out he's made himself into a bit of a joke. I'd like to see him turn that around both as a testament to a man's betterment through hard work and dedication as well as for the ridiculous circus that would exist for a minute if he steps back in and starts knocking fools out.
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I would like to see the guy do something. He is showing that he wants to better himself. Props to him for getting paid more than UFC fighters during that elitexc era that ended when he got dropped in 4 seconds.
If he does anything on the ultimate fighter the interwebz will be a buzz.
In reality his house is in foreclosure and his BMW is 3 months behind on payments but Im sure his heart is in the right place.
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im also watching tomorrow. :noel:
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Mir - Big fan, I dont care how he wins but hopefully he can.
GSP - Not a fan, but you cant deny hes an athlete and hard worker.
Fitch - One of my fav fighters. Would like to see a gsp rematch ones he gets a bit better.
Henderson - I hate bisping and hope he goes to sleep.
Bonnar - Hes just the man, even when he gets beat up.
danzig - Dont really care much about him.
Jones - Looks like hes gonna be a contender in the future.
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Im not really a fan of the sport much but Frank Mir is a bad mofo. Couple people I know back in Vegas have run into him while he was just doing typical stuff like shopping at Target and they all said the guy was just way chill and super cool.
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Only person I dont want to win is Bisping.
fuck yeah i hate that bitch he thinks he is hot shit since he is unbeaten even though matt tha deaf guy beat him and should have been given the decision on there fight, also i really dont want brock to win i think mir can pull it off agine i mean hes already beat him once he just has to fight smarter like he did the first time round
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IMO Bisping DID lose the fight to Hamill... AND Leben. Thats just me though. Leben pressed the whole fight, and never got hurt.
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+1 on the Bisping vs Hamill fight......
imo Bisping is a decent fighter but I just don't care for him..... i cant put my finger on it. I cant wait to see him get fucked up. this will be a decent card.. however, i cant believe that after Coleman's last fight, why Mr Silva would add him again. He is a GNP legend, but those days are long gone.
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+1 on the Bisping vs Hamill fight......
imo Bisping is a decent fighter but I just don't care for him..... i cant put my finger on it. I cant wait to see him get fucked up.
+1 same goes for josh koscheck. he's a good fighter, couldnt wait for him to get ktfo. then when he fought paulo thiago i was screaming my head off at how happy i was when he got knocked the fuck out. i have faith in Hendo that he'll do the same with Bisping
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Main Card
Brock Lesnar vs. Frank Mir
Georges St. Pierre vs. Thiago Alves
Jon Fitch vs. Paulo Thiago
Dan Henderson vs. Michael Bisping
get sum O0
Qouted for truth
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you guys have no faith in hendo or mir. wtf over
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the funny thing about Hendo is.. people neglect the old pride videos lol.... those were the roots lol. I am for Hendo.... although i like the unpredicatablility of MMA..............
on a off topic lol who will beat Fedor, hmmm we shall see.............. well it doesn't matter because his lost will be blamed on old age anyway.
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barnett will beat fedor....
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hahah i got my money on Tim Sylvia in a rematch.. he is so ready now after getting KO'ed by Mercer.
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Seeing Bisping getting ktfo was priceless!
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take it bisbing. fucking wanker
the first fight was ridiculous. what a horrible decision
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Bisbing getting KO'd was fucking awesome. Brock lesnar is a fucking douchebag that makes the sport look bad :-\
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Bisbing getting KO'd was fucking awesome. Brock lesnar is a fucking douchebag that makes the sport look bad :-\
The fact that a fake wrestler can walk into a sport and own it makes the sport look bad
Ill keep saying it the fighters in the ufc are subpar compared to to the training that Boxers go through hence the pay difference and the fact that when I started boxing at 12 I was told I was already a little old. Most boxing champs started training seriously 3-4 hours a day when they were kids and it doesnt stop.
Boxing will take the fighting world back over since reality is sinking in to most people who watch this that really most WWE wrestlers would have a chance in the UFC which is fucking sad
Let Lesnar walk into a boxing ring with any top 20 heavyweight boxer in the world and watch him get knocked out in about 2 minutes. I promise you that.
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Boxers are good at one thing, I like boxing but to me it isnt as exciting to watch since you know whats going to happen. Lesnar was a wrestler before the fake shit, and he wouldnt make the sport look bad if he had some class after the fight
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Boxers are good at one thing, I like boxing but to me it isnt as exciting to watch since you know whats going to happen. Lesnar was a wrestler before the fake shit, and he wouldnt make the sport look bad if he had some class after the fight
Boxing is an art form. Ufc shows all you need is a muscle head who just bullies people.
Never in history will there be a WWE wrestler to walk into Boxing and become a champ in a matter of a year let alone a lifetime that speaks volume for the quality of fighters.
I see these guys who do mixed martial arts Im 99 percent sure I can take pretty much all of them. Reality is the guys who are champs cant throw a punch correctly. Walk into a GYm in southern california and watch about 100 Mexican kids do it correctly and there 14 years old.
After what lesnar has done Im betting that the ultimate warrior would of owned the UFC and its SUBPAR fighters
Im glad Lesnar has showed the world that the UFC is a fuckin Joke. Maybe we can get back to watching real men fight in a ring with Crazy don king running game on some Nogs from the hood who can actually fight.
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I can't believe they wanted $50 for this. Said fuck that got some Mexican food and watched some downloaded movies. BTW, Knowing sucks
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After what lesnar has done Im betting that the ultimate warrior would of owned the UFC and its SUBPAR fighters
Jimmy Valiant > all.
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UFC is gay bottom line.
When I see people in UFC and affliction shirts and shirts with that print shit all over them, that's a sure sign that those people mindless douchebags and not worth my time of day.
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And then you're forced to take their burger order.
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lmao
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I personally believe these fights are occasionally staged when it's a big fight.. It wouldn't surprise me the least if Frank Mir loses this time, just because the money is on him. major investors put money on the under dog and collect dollars on their pennies.. One example is the iceman vs. rampage fight. A lot of money was lost in that fight and it was a joke. The investors knew what was going to happen even if the fighters didn't.
UFC isn't about MMA any more, it's all about $$$ to the corporate scum that run it.
The biggest MMA championship ended when UFC bought and shut PRIDE down.
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brock would probably win a boxing match just as easy, if you havent notices he has like 14" fists and no neck. good luck trying to knock him out and good luck blocking a freight train coming at your face.
boxing is retarded, its about as boring as watching a soccer game. unlike boxing MMA fighters have to be good at things other then throwing a punch and jumping around like a fairy.
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I personally believe these fights are occasionally staged when it's a big fight.. It wouldn't surprise me the least if Frank Mir loses this time, just because the money is on him. major investors put money on the under dog and collect dollars on their pennies.. One example is the iceman vs. rampage fight. A lot of money was lost in that fight and it was a joke. The investors knew what was going to happen even if the fighters didn't.
UFC isn't about MMA any more, it's all about $$$ to the corporate scum that run it.
The biggest MMA championship ended when UFC bought and shut PRIDE down.
frank mir did lose, did you not read the thread? it wasnt even a loss, it was a pure beatdown and i actually felt bad for mir because he took such a harsh beating. brock KOed him.
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Brock Lesnar is like a slightly evolved hotrex.
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Brock Lesnar is like a slightly evolved hotrex.
Lesnars's special move is brute force ground and pound.
hotrex's special move is herpes simplex infection.
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And then you're forced to take their burger order.
hahahahahahhahahahaha sorry but that shit was funny
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We all have had less than glorious jobs, that's not the point. What that stereotype seems to be is. Stereotypes are bullshit, if the shirt a man wears dictates his life's quality then the shirt he dons at work to support that life is one and the same. I try to give everyone a chance but I have to say the guys wearing silly MMA generica Tapout shirts have a higher chance of not being irredeemable trash than the guys wearing McDonalds shirts.
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Coolest thing of the night. Hard KO followed by a meteor crashing into Bisping's face. I love it!
what was better than that...was when he said he typically doesnt toss in a fuck you punch once he knows the guy is knocked out...but that last shot was just to shut him up.
dude layed there for a long ass time fucked up...woke up and then didnt know what the fuck happened to him. It was great.
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Coolest thing of the night. Hard KO followed by a meteor crashing into Bisping's face. I love it!
Hands down the best part :yes:
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We all have had less than glorious jobs, that's not the point. What that stereotype seems to be is. Stereotypes are bullshit, if the shirt a man wears dictates his life's quality then the shirt he dons at work to support that life is one and the same. I try to give everyone a chance but I have to say the guys wearing silly MMA generica Tapout shirts have a higher chance of not being irredeemable trash than the guys wearing McDonalds shirts.
If a 25 year old guy feels the need to make a conscious decision to ware a t-shirt with branded shit on it, they're immature or have a character defect which causes them to develop their personality using social cues, or they're honestly entertained by that bullshit.
You can tell the type of people who watch that shit by the marketing demographic demonstrated by the advertisements on the octagon floor. You're always going to have your outliers, but the statistical mean in that case is obviously a bunch of retards.
I'll slit your fucking throat, grind you up into burger meat and serve you in a big mac through the drive through window.
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costco cargo shorts/hoodie and flip flops no matter what the season
ufc is retarded
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You can tell the type of people who watch that shit by the marketing demographic demonstrated by the advertisements on the octagon floor. You're always going to have your outliers, but the statistical mean in that case is obviously a bunch of retards.
someone's mad that mcdonalds isn't on that mat instead of burger king
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You can tell the type of people who watch that shit by the marketing demographic demonstrated by the advertisements on the octagon floor. You're always going to have your outliers, but the statistical mean in that case is obviously a bunch of retards.
someone's mad that mcdonalds isn't on that mat instead of burger king
rawr's very career minded. He probably views the BK advertisement as eating away at his job security.
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costco cargo shorts/hoodie and flip flops no matter what the season
ufc is retarded
you own multiple VW's and you think youre entitles to call UFC retarded. unacceptable, sir.
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boxing is retarded, its about as boring as watching a soccer game. unlike boxing MMA fighters have to be good at things other then throwing a punch and jumping around like a fairy.
I bet Chris would beg to differ. A boxer would still be jumping around like a fairy while a MMA fighter would be laying there passed out from exhaustion. I knew a guy who boxed, the amount of stamina build up they have is fucking insane.
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boxing is retarded, its about as boring as watching a soccer game. unlike boxing MMA fighters have to be good at things other then throwing a punch and jumping around like a fairy.
I bet Chris would beg to differ. A boxer would still be jumping around like a fairy while a MMA fighter would be laying there passed out from exhaustion. I knew a guy who boxed, the amount of stamina build up they have is fucking insane.
boxing can't be that awesome... in the original seasons of UFC, boxers got their asses kicked. You know, when the Gracies wanted to prove that BJJ was the most effective means of fighting and opened the arena to masters of all types of martial arts and fighting styles. BJJ and Mai Thai are the ones that are most popular MMA today because its what proved to be the most efficient and devastating against other genres of fighting... NOT boxing.
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Lets see how much stamina boxers have after grappling for 3 minutes straight, getting taken down and having a guy disrupt your breathing with his hand for another minute. How impressive will he be for that remaining minute in the round ?
Not taking anything away from boxing. 12 rounds is 12 rounds. Its insane. Its just a different world and NOT that easy to compare.
Bisping got exposed, and Ive been waiting for this moment patiently. Henderson said "he hit like a bitch".
I love it.
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boxing is retarded, its about as boring as watching a soccer game. unlike boxing MMA fighters have to be good at things other then throwing a punch and jumping around like a fairy.
I bet Chris would beg to differ. A boxer would still be jumping around like a fairy while a MMA fighter would be laying there passed out from exhaustion. I knew a guy who boxed, the amount of stamina build up they have is fucking insane.
boxing can't be that awesome... in the original seasons of UFC, boxers got their asses kicked. You know, when the Gracies wanted to prove that BJJ was the most effective means of fighting and opened the arena to masters of all types of martial arts and fighting styles. BJJ and Mai Thai are the ones that are most popular MMA today because its what proved to be the most efficient and devastating against other genres of fighting... NOT boxing.
Lets see how much stamina boxers have after grappling for 3 minutes straight, getting taken down and having a guy disrupt your breathing with his hand for another minute. How impressive will he be for that remaining minute in the round ?
Not taking anything away from boxing. 12 rounds is 12 rounds. Its insane. Its just a different world and NOT that easy to compare.
Bisping got exposed, and Ive been waiting for this moment patiently. Henderson said "he hit like a bitch".
I love it.
I was talking about Coreys response about boxing, not boxers vs MMA. Boxers aren't trained to grapple, kick, take towns, etc etc. I was simply reffering to the amount of training and stamina buildup they have to "jump around like fairies".
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I wasnt really arguing with you.
Not with anyone for that matter lol.
I just hear a lot that boxers would walk circles around mma fighters. Which I find funny because they are built to do different things.
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boxing is retarded, its about as boring as watching a soccer game. unlike boxing MMA fighters have to be good at things other then throwing a punch and jumping around like a fairy.
I bet Chris would beg to differ. A boxer would still be jumping around like a fairy while a MMA fighter would be laying there passed out from exhaustion. I knew a guy who boxed, the amount of stamina build up they have is fucking insane.
boxing can't be that awesome... in the original seasons of UFC, boxers got their asses kicked. You know, when the Gracies wanted to prove that BJJ was the most effective means of fighting and opened the arena to masters of all types of martial arts and fighting styles. BJJ and Mai Thai are the ones that are most popular MMA today because its what proved to be the most efficient and devastating against other genres of fighting... NOT boxing.
Lets see how much stamina boxers have after grappling for 3 minutes straight, getting taken down and having a guy disrupt your breathing with his hand for another minute. How impressive will he be for that remaining minute in the round ?
Not taking anything away from boxing. 12 rounds is 12 rounds. Its insane. Its just a different world and NOT that easy to compare.
Bisping got exposed, and Ive been waiting for this moment patiently. Henderson said "he hit like a bitch".
I love it.
I was talking about Coreys response about boxing, not boxers vs MMA. Boxers aren't trained to grapple, kick, take towns, etc etc. I was simply reffering to the amount of training and stamina buildup they have to "jump around like fairies".
and you think it doesnt take much stamina to go 5 - 5 minute rounds grappling with a guy no less? dont kid yourself if you think boxers have more stamina
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Tell us, Corey. Just how much stamina is required to grapple dudes?
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probably the same amount required to run the drive through window for an 8 hour shift.
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I dont know if your talking to me.
But I DONT think boxers have more stamina.
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Boxers who are champs get paid millions. The boxers going into the UFC are failures hence why they will fight for 25k.
I dont know how these UFC guys train but my brother who actually had a real chance of being sucessful in the sport of boxing, only person to make me take a knee got deep into drugs and was lost as a person for almost 5 years. When he was sober our Garage growing up was a boxing gym/motor swapping home.
During the day my brother would train in a 120 degree weather in a garage with only a small box fan. 4 Hours a day then would run 4 -5 miles after with our Little Black pitbull. This is in the Mojave desert.
These UFC guys are out of gas after 5 minutes. We would box 5 minute rounds for training in a Garage that was easily 130+ degrees for hours.
I got enough street fights in my life getting tackled etc being the smaller guy and I felt fresh and never winded.
Boxers train 6 months atleast for a fight these ufc camps arent even half that long.
Boxers will go down in history has Heros of an American sport. UFC fighters will go down as a white trash mans form of entertainment. The sport will be dead once Boxing gets another Great heavyweight.
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IDK what boxing u watch but its boring to watch I think id watch Nascar before boxing. THey throw 3 punches then hug eachother untill the reff breaks them up :-\
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you own multiple VW's and you think youre entitles to call UFC retarded. unacceptable, sir.
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IDK what boxing u watch but its boring to watch I think id watch Nascar before boxing. THey throw 3 punches then hug eachother untill the reff breaks them up :-\
Yet you watch UFC which takes all of two seconds before they rub nuts till the match is over? I use to like UFC, but not as much anymore. It won't be long before it has the same gay redneck soap opera storyline and costumes as wrestling, mark my words.
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IDK what boxing u watch but its boring to watch I think id watch Nascar before boxing. THey throw 3 punches then hug eachother untill the reff breaks them up :-\
Yet you watch UFC which takes all of two seconds before they rub nuts till the match is over? I use to like UFC, but not as much anymore. It won't be long before it has the same gay redneck soap opera storyline and costumes as wrestling, mark my words.
Yeah ::)
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Im telling you the ultimate warrior would be the shit in the UFC
Tag team matches soon to come
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Still would be better to watch then Boxing :yes:
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Not related, but the UFC talk made me think of it. Anyone ever watch that show that was on either History or Discovery channel where the two guys traveled the world learning new fighting styles? That would be a badass.
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Not related, but the UFC talk made me think of it. Anyone ever watch that show that was on either History or Discovery channel where the two guys traveled the world learning new fighting styles? That would be a badass.
Why would you want to do that? Only fighters that have any skill are boxers
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Not related, but the UFC talk made me think of it. Anyone ever watch that show that was on either History or Discovery channel where the two guys traveled the world learning new fighting styles? That would be a badass.
Why would you want to do that? Only fighters that have any skill are boxers
Actually there are tons of great fighters in the world but most prefer to actually get paid more than 25k for a fight
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RAWR LOVES THE DICK
You find that interesting? Oh, wait, you have a thing for boys. I forgot.
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Still would be better to watch then Boxing :yes:
Ultimate warrior jumping into the octagon from the crowd
Fuckin amazing
Please Let this wwe thing catch on
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lesnar made over 3 million for the fight. considerably more than your average undercard fighters in either boxing or mma
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Boxing is more of a sport than UFC. UFC is more on Entertainment than being a sport
Pride was the best MMA out before UFC brought them out. Now that was more of a sport
Not everyone in the UFC gasses out quickly. Just the bar fighter ones.
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I just cant watch a boxing fight. But then again I cant watch a baseball or basketball game either.
Chris im not saying boxers arent talented or have it easier than mma fighters. Its just DIFFERENT. Training is different. The fighting is different.
I cant stand boxing, same way you cant stand mma.
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Boxing is more of a sport than UFC. UFC is more on Entertainment than being a sport
Pride was the best MMA out before UFC brought them out. Now that was more of a sport
Not everyone in the UFC gasses out quickly. Just the bar fighter ones.
lol
who in the ufc is a "bar fighter" now?
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boxers are 1 dimentional, and by the end of their career of getting punched in the face, they talk like mohammad ali.
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boxers are 1 dimentional, and by the end of their career of getting punched in the face, they talk like mohammad ali.
He seemed to be doing a lot better cognitively in his later retirement years. I remember at one point they'd have him wander onto stage at some event or other and everyone would make a big deal about him and he'd sort of stand there shaking hands like he had the world's worst case of Downs Syndrome, then after 5-6 years he was talking a little and making sense which made me feel loads better for him.
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im late but
a freaking men.... there you go Hamill im sure he smiled watching that shit. i respect every man even Bisping that goes in that pentagon , but i just couldn't stand Bisping. I think a lot of UK guys have that "ill kick your ass no matter what" attitude.
not a better MMA guy could have done it. Dan is virtually unknown by the younger crowd... most don't even know he rocked Silvia.
now for the boxing thing ... i respect all athlete because i am one and played sports at a high level, but Ill take MMA over Boxing... there is no denying the time, energy and training put into multiple disciplines.
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Boxing is more of a sport than UFC. UFC is more on Entertainment than being a sport
Pride was the best MMA out before UFC brought them out. Now that was more of a sport
Not everyone in the UFC gasses out quickly. Just the bar fighter ones.
lol
who in the ufc is a "bar fighter" now?
someone who only has little or medicore training as a mma fighter. "Bar fighter" is a term used by MMA and MA to describe the skill of a certain fighter.
If you want I can clearly list to you who is actually a Fighter and who is not based on ther performance, technique and skill if you want to be educated.
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Boxing is more of a sport than UFC. UFC is more on Entertainment than being a sport
Pride was the best MMA out before UFC brought them out. Now that was more of a sport
Not everyone in the UFC gasses out quickly. Just the bar fighter ones.
lol
who in the ufc is a "bar fighter" now?
someone who only has little or medicore training as a mma fighter. "Bar fighter" is a term used by MMA and MA to describe the skill of a certain fighter.
If you want I can clearly list to you who is actually a Fighter and who is not based on ther performance, technique and skill if you want to be educated.
yes you do that. list all the bar fighters who suck
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"washed Up" "Overrated" "One Deminsional" "Bar Brawler" "Puncher Chance"-Shamrock, Andrei, Tim Sylvia, Al-Turk
Rashad, Chuck, Quinton, and Brock Lesnar are all who are prime examples in that list.
They call it mixed martial arts but they didn't really perfect anything by form or technique. You can get someone who practise BBJ, MT, and Greco for 6 months all the same time but wouldn't be nowhere near the level of someone who practice BBJ for 3 years. They are just learning the easy steps but don't really have the building blocks to be good. Or you clearly just get a guy who just has size and strength to his advantage or "knockout" power and just put him in the UFC. Someone who is knocking people left and right and has no skill is not a MMA. And him being able to knock out people who claim are MMA is clearly not trained the fundamental blocks of Martail Arts.
Perfect example of people who are well balanced in all areas and don't have the size or or brute strength to just punch it out (Like bar fighters) are
Fedor- Has trained in Sambo since he was a boy. Well balanced. His boxing could be better but quick and smart fighter. Also undfeated. Well balanced fighter.
Lyoto Machida-Trained in Shotokan(3rd Degree blackbelt), Sum(champion), BJJ(blackbelt), and Muy Thai. I would say he is the best example of a well balanced fighter.
George St Pierre-Kyokushin(Black Belt) has unbelieve talent of a wrestler for never wrestled i his life. Great Takedown defense.
A "Bar Brawler" is someone who just trade blows and rely on power to knockout someone to win. A real fighter is not going to just stand there and trade hits like an idiot.
Dealing with Martial Arts all my life I can tell who can fight and who can't and UFC is not a Sport its Entertainment and quite frankly I get pissed sometimes when they label themselves MMA.
Pride was a Mixed Martial Arts Sport and missed watching that.
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UFC is not a Sport its Entertainment
All sports are entertainment
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UFC is not a Sport its Entertainment
All sports are entertainment
Stripping is entertainment you consider that a sport?
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Yeah
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bless there tender hearts
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did anyone watch it on www.freeppv.tv (http://) ? my neighbour did and he said it worked out pretty good.
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Yeah
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UFC is not a Sport its Entertainment
All sports are entertainment
Stripping is entertainment you consider that a sport?
I'm with Steve. I certainly grade strippers on their abilities.
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did anyone watch it on www.freeppv.tv (http://) (http://) (http://) ? my neighbour did and he said it worked out pretty good.
Haha, I'm watching the tail half of UFC 100 from there right now. Good find, sir.
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did anyone watch it on www.freeppv.tv (http://) (http://) (http://) (http://) (http://) (http://) ? my neighbour did and he said it worked out pretty good.
Haha, I'm watching the tail half of UFC 100 from there right now. Good find, sir.
Indeed. I wish I had a FTA receiver to get all that junk free anyways.
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Look at how fucking gay you retards are about this shit.
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dont you have some burgers to flip, fries to salt, and drinks to fill?
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Look at how fucking gay you retards are about this shit.
Can I has a sweet tea, no ice, and a medium fry? Thanks
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dont you have some burgers to flip, fries to salt, and drinks to fill?
Damn you, beat me to it
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Don't you have tapout shorts to go shopping for?
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Don't you have tapout shorts to go shopping for?
don't forget protein shakes made with recycled sperm, affliction t-shirts that are about as thin as a condom, and the latest issue of fuckmyass weekly
when it comes down to it, ufc is about dudes in underwear making their partners submit to their wishes in front of a crowd of other dudes. shit ain't right.
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Don't you have tapout shorts to go shopping for?
don't forget protein shakes made with recycled sperm, affliction t-shirts that are about as thin as a condom, and the latest issue of fuckmyass weekly
when it comes down to it, ufc is about dudes in underwear making their partners submit to their wishes in front of a crowd of other dudes. shit ain't right.
U drive a VW u like dudes in underwear
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U drive a VW u like dudes in underwear
you drink 10 cent beer and live in lynden. you're either a) a hippie or b) a product of gay upbringing
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U drive a VW u like dudes in underwear
you drink 10 cent beer and live in lynden. you're either a) a hippie or b) a product of gay upbringing
Or c) both
I vote he is both and GM cars walk all over him.
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UFC is not a Sport its Entertainment
All sports are entertainment
Stripping is entertainment you consider that a sport?
sports = entertainment
stripping = entertainment
entertainment =/= sports
nice try though
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UFC is not a Sport its Entertainment
All sports are entertainment
Stripping is entertainment you consider that a sport?
sports = entertainment
stripping = entertainment
entertainment =/= sports
nice try though
I was making the comparison of a president of a company giving a title shot (to someone who has a mass media of wwe followers ) to fight for the heavyweight belt with a mma record of 2-1-0. Or having a lw fight a champion ww when there were plenty of ww next in line just to show "What if Entertainment." Or having GSP vs Anderson just because he wants to see a "what if Entertainment." when they clearly are in diff weight class, have nothing to prove in a diff weight class. Tell me what sport does all that in NFL, Soccer, or Basketball. You don't have one basketball team play another basketball team just because they look good but have no rank to do it.
Thats the camparison I made with entertainment and sport. ;)
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Don't you have tapout shorts to go shopping for?
don't forget protein shakes made with recycled sperm, affliction t-shirts that are about as thin as a condom, and the latest issue of fuckmyass weekly
when it comes down to it, ufc is about dudes in underwear making their partners submit to their wishes in front of a crowd of other dudes. shit ain't right.
U drive a VW u like dudes in underwear
He drives a VW so he's super in tune with what other dudes want.
He does have a point, though. There is an underlying homoerotic edge to anything overtly masculine that doesn't involve impregnating every female you meet and substitutes other males instead. When they took Fight Club and made it a movie, it became a homoerotic fantasy flick by simply de-emphasising the heterosexual relationship that was the core theme of the book. And pop culture loves that shit.
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UFC is not a Sport its Entertainment
All sports are entertainment
Stripping is entertainment you consider that a sport?
sports = entertainment
stripping = entertainment
entertainment =/= sports
nice try though
I was making the comparison of a president of a company giving a title shot (to someone who has a mass media of wwe followers ) to fight for the heavyweight belt with a mma record of 2-1-0. Or having a lw fight a champion ww when there were plenty of ww next in line just to show "What if Entertainment." Or having GSP vs Anderson just because he wants to see a "what if Entertainment." when they clearly are in diff weight class, have nothing to prove in a diff weight class. Tell me what sport does all that in NFL, Soccer, or Basketball. You don't have one basketball team play another basketball team just because they look good but have no rank to do it.
Thats the camparison I made with entertainment and sport. ;)
if you havent noticed, theres not a very large field of heavyweight fighters. who else would have fought? theres like 5 heavy weight fighters in the ufc.
if someone can cut or gain to the next weight class then how do you figure its not thier "weight class" as far as im concerned it is. its not like they are taking a 205 guy and having him weigh in at 205 but fight a guy who weighs in at 170. dont be an idiot.
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brock lesnar is nothing but a circus act. the way he acted after the fight proved it. dana is smart for bringing in a guy from the wwe like that. what lesnar did was worth more then any kind of promotion. people love to hate a good bad guy and lesnar is now that. his acting abilities just helped sell millions in tickets/ppv so people will watch him in hopes he loses. do i think lesnar is good? nope, he has no stand up game, mir rocked him good in the second round and all lesnar could do is lay on him (smart yes, but very one dimensional in the sport of mma). the key to beating lesnar is good stand up game, great take down defense, and the ability to make him impatient so he will make a mistake. mir and couture proved this point, both had lesnar wobbly in the knees. lesnar has a glass chin and can't take too many hard hits. i predict that once he loses his belt (and it will be by ko) he will turn into another kimbo slice. he'll drop to the bottom of the ranks where you will barely see him again. and from what i heard, fedor's contract with affliction is ending soon and dana is gonna do whatever it takes to get him in the ufc, this will be the one that will bring lesnar down if he comes over.....or it will be couture (depends on who sees lesnar first :yes:). i also think that it is kinda fishy how he can weigh in at 265lbs 3 days before a fight and come fight day he is weighing almost 300lbs, you can't tell me he isn't taking some kind of growth hormone (steroids :mexi:)
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Ii also think that it is kinda fishy how he can weigh in at 265lbs 3 days before a fight and come fight day he is weighing almost 300lbs, you can't tell me he isn't taking some kind of growth hormone (steroids :mexi:)
You sir have obviously never had to try and make a weight class.
I don't know anything about UFC, nor do I care to watch it, but I have had to try and make weigh in's and I know a number of guys that can swing 20lbs. Personally I only ever had the dedication for about 10lbs.
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to be honest, brock followed a game plan, which was to wrestle with mir and pound his face it.
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Don't you have tapout shorts to go shopping for?
tapout is to mma, as everlast is to boxing. i love when people talk shit about people wearing tapout shirts. i agree there's the random douchebags wearing the tapout shirts that think they are tough shit at bars but theres more fags in abercrombie shirts that think they're tough.
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brock lesnar is nothing but a circus act. the way he acted after the fight proved it. dana is smart for bringing in a guy from the wwe like that. what lesnar did was worth more then any kind of promotion. people love to hate a good bad guy and lesnar is now that. his acting abilities just helped sell millions in tickets/ppv so people will watch him in hopes he loses. do i think lesnar is good? nope, he has no stand up game, mir rocked him good in the second round and all lesnar could do is lay on him (smart yes, but very one dimensional in the sport of mma). the key to beating lesnar is good stand up game, great take down defense, and the ability to make him impatient so he will make a mistake. mir and couture proved this point, both had lesnar wobbly in the knees. lesnar has a glass chin and can't take too many hard hits. i predict that once he loses his belt (and it will be by ko) he will turn into another kimbo slice. he'll drop to the bottom of the ranks where you will barely see him again. and from what i heard, fedor's contract with affliction is ending soon and dana is gonna do whatever it takes to get him in the ufc, this will be the one that will bring lesnar down if he comes over.....or it will be couture (depends on who sees lesnar first :yes:). i also think that it is kinda fishy how he can weigh in at 265lbs 3 days before a fight and come fight day he is weighing almost 300lbs, you can't tell me he isn't taking some kind of growth hormone (steroids :mexi:)
youre smoking rocks if you think couture has a chance of taking out brock. hes a washed up old man.
bottom line is brock is too powerful and all he has to do is get someone on the ground and its game over for them.
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Ben Davis
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Don't you have tapout shorts to go shopping for?
tapout is to mma, as everlast is to boxing. i love when people talk shit about people wearing tapout shirts. i agree there's the random douchebags wearing the tapout shirts that think they are tough shit at bars but theres more fags in abercrombie shirts that think they're tough.
Sounds like some homo has an affliction wardrobe.
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I have to be honest I see lots of kids rocking Tapout shirts and affliction or whatever but they are all like 14 and they shop at ross.
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I have to be honest I see lots of kids rocking Tapout shirts and affliction or whatever but they are all like 14 and they shop at ross.
fuck you nigger, ross has some cheap shit
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Hey i didnt say a damn thing bad abotu ross, in fact bought me a sweet 5 dollar quicksilver shirt while i was there.
My point was i see more 14 year olds hoping the shirt makes them look tougher as apposed to an adult. Ross comes into play cause the shirts are everywhere and cheaper than dirt.
So take that niggerbrain.
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UFC is not a Sport its Entertainment
All sports are entertainment
Stripping is entertainment you consider that a sport?
sports = entertainment
stripping = entertainment
entertainment =/= sports
nice try though
I was making the comparison of a president of a company giving a title shot (to someone who has a mass media of wwe followers ) to fight for the heavyweight belt with a mma record of 2-1-0. Or having a lw fight a champion ww when there were plenty of ww next in line just to show "What if Entertainment." Or having GSP vs Anderson just because he wants to see a "what if Entertainment." when they clearly are in diff weight class, have nothing to prove in a diff weight class. Tell me what sport does all that in NFL, Soccer, or Basketball. You don't have one basketball team play another basketball team just because they look good but have no rank to do it.
Thats the camparison I made with entertainment and sport. ;)
if you havent noticed, theres not a very large field of heavyweight fighters. who else would have fought? theres like 5 heavy weight fighters in the ufc.
if someone can cut or gain to the next weight class then how do you figure its not thier "weight class" as far as im concerned it is. its not like they are taking a 205 guy and having him weigh in at 205 but fight a guy who weighs in at 170. dont be an idiot.
there is not just five heavyweight figthers in the ufc :?:
brock lesnar only had 3 fights which one of them he lost
Courture was gone for a year(he was the heavyweight champ by beating sylvia) and came back but his first fight was with Brock
before brock came to the ufc Nog was clearly next in line and so was mir.
But they didn't get there title shot he gave it to brock because he new it would draw in money.
Shane carwin should have had the title for the belt since his apperance in UFC 84 he is undefeated
Kongo should have a shot at the title before brock since he went on a 3 fight winning streak after his defeat from Herring
Here the list of UFC heavyweights and records
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira 31-5
Frank Mir 12-4
Shane Carwin 11-0
Cain Velazquez 6-0
Junior Dos Santos 8-1
Barry Pat 3-1
Gonzaga Gabriel 10-4
Hardonk Antoni 8-5
Herring Heath 28-14
Kongo Cheick 20-5
McCully Justin 9-4
Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovik 25-6-2 (now with the UFC)
That doesn't look like five to me. But im the idiot. I can clearly list 8 heavyweights with their record and streak of wins who clearly deserve the title shot before Brock lesnar. Pat barry was a well know kick boxer just enter the UFC and got a 3 fight streak and he didn't get the type of attention Brock Lesnar did when he enter the ufc. Shane Carwin been amazing the past few fights but didn't get the attention Lesnar did either and he is also undefeated. Along with Cain Velasquez, Gonzago Gabriel, and Dos Santos.
BROCK HAS ONLY BEEN IN THE UFC SINCE FEB 2008 AND HIS RECORD IS 4-1
The reason he got the title was because of his fanbase, entertaiment, and money making value. That is it... MONEY AND ENTERTAINMENT.
You want another example?
Lyoto Machida( he is the Champion now) has been dominating opponents since his first debut in UFC 67. Undefeated with a record of 15-0. Everyone who is a fan of MA and MMA knew he was long overdue for a title shot. Matter of fact, he wasn't even suppose to face Rashad Evans..Rampage Jackson was. He only got a chance at the title shot because he was injured and Dana gave it to Lyoto. It clearly shows Lyoto didn't get the shot because people consider him boring and didn't like his style
Shit Dana stated for the TUF season it would consist of Lyoto and Rampage but gave it to Evans because it would draw in more entertainment.
Dana White clearly just wants to make money, bring in more people by displaying "What if Entertainment." If you draw a big crowd of people wanting to see exicting fights he doesn't care about the sportman fair value.
I understand that all sport is for your entertainment. But there is a clear sign when something that suppose to be sportman like is not clearly in that catergory and is just for the entertainment factor for our eyes. (that why i brought the comparison of stripping)
The definition of a sport is Sport is an activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively. Sport is commonly defined as an organized, competitive and skillful physical activity requiring commitment and fair play.
Thats why i don't consider it a sport. I understand you watch it and might know a little about MA or MMA but you don't know enough. You are clearly just going by what you see and just the entertainment of it. :-\
And about the cut and whatever point you were getting at with weight class..wtf are you talking about?
I was making a point on how he is having other fighter in diff division who are dominating in that weight class fight someone else just to see a good fight. :?:
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who honestly gives a fuck? i'm sick of seeing this fucking thread
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who honestly gives a fuck? i'm sick of seeing this fucking thread
In the words of Junkyard Racer...If you don't like it don't click it :P
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Haha
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UFC is not a Sport its Entertainment
All sports are entertainment
Stripping is entertainment you consider that a sport?
sports = entertainment
stripping = entertainment
entertainment =/= sports
nice try though
I was making the comparison of a president of a company giving a title shot (to someone who has a mass media of wwe followers ) to fight for the heavyweight belt with a mma record of 2-1-0. Or having a lw fight a champion ww when there were plenty of ww next in line just to show "What if Entertainment." Or having GSP vs Anderson just because he wants to see a "what if Entertainment." when they clearly are in diff weight class, have nothing to prove in a diff weight class. Tell me what sport does all that in NFL, Soccer, or Basketball. You don't have one basketball team play another basketball team just because they look good but have no rank to do it.
Thats the camparison I made with entertainment and sport. ;)
if you havent noticed, theres not a very large field of heavyweight fighters. who else would have fought? theres like 5 heavy weight fighters in the ufc.
if someone can cut or gain to the next weight class then how do you figure its not thier "weight class" as far as im concerned it is. its not like they are taking a 205 guy and having him weigh in at 205 but fight a guy who weighs in at 170. dont be an idiot.
there is not just five heavyweight figthers in the ufc :?:
brock lesnar only had 3 fights which one of them he lost
Courture was gone for a year(he was the heavyweight champ by beating sylvia) and came back but his first fight was with Brock
before brock came to the ufc Nog was clearly next in line and so was mir.
But they didn't get there title shot he gave it to brock because he new it would draw in money.
Shane carwin should have had the title for the belt since his apperance in UFC 84 he is undefeated
Kongo should have a shot at the title before brock since he went on a 3 fight winning streak after his defeat from Herring
Here the list of UFC heavyweights and records
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira 31-5
Frank Mir 12-4
Shane Carwin 11-0
Cain Velazquez 6-0
Junior Dos Santos 8-1
Barry Pat 3-1
Gonzaga Gabriel 10-4
Hardonk Antoni 8-5
Herring Heath 28-14
Kongo Cheick 20-5
McCully Justin 9-4
Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovik 25-6-2 (now with the UFC)
That doesn't look like five to me. But im the idiot. I can clearly list 8 heavyweights with their record and streak of wins who clearly deserve the title shot before Brock lesnar. Pat barry was a well know kick boxer just enter the UFC and got a 3 fight streak and he didn't get the type of attention Brock Lesnar did when he enter the ufc. Shane Carwin been amazing the past few fights but didn't get the attention Lesnar did either and he is also undefeated. Along with Cain Velasquez, Gonzago Gabriel, and Dos Santos.
BROCK HAS ONLY BEEN IN THE UFC SINCE FEB 2008 AND HIS RECORD IS 4-1
The reason he got the title was because of his fanbase, entertaiment, and money making value. That is it... MONEY AND ENTERTAINMENT.
You want another example?
Lyoto Machida( he is the Champion now) has been dominating opponents since his first debut in UFC 67. Undefeated with a record of 15-0. Everyone who is a fan of MA and MMA knew he was long overdue for a title shot. Matter of fact, he wasn't even suppose to face Rashad Evans..Rampage Jackson was. He only got a chance at the title shot because he was injured and Dana gave it to Lyoto. It clearly shows Lyoto didn't get the shot because people consider him boring and didn't like his style
Shit Dana stated for the TUF season it would consist of Lyoto and Rampage but gave it to Evans because it would draw in more entertainment.
Dana White clearly just wants to make money, bring in more people by displaying "What if Entertainment." If you draw a big crowd of people wanting to see exicting fights he doesn't care about the sportman fair value.
I understand that all sport is for your entertainment. But there is a clear sign when something that suppose to be sportman like is not clearly in that catergory and is just for the entertainment factor for our eyes. (that why i brought the comparison of stripping)
The definition of a sport is Sport is an activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively. Sport is commonly defined as an organized, competitive and skillful physical activity requiring commitment and fair play.
Thats why i don't consider it a sport. I understand you watch it and might know a little about MA or MMA but you don't know enough. You are clearly just going by what you see and just the entertainment of it. :-\
And about the cut and whatever point you were getting at with weight class..wtf are you talking about?
I was making a point on how he is having other fighter in diff division who are dominating in that weight class fight someone else just to see a good fight. :?:
you want sportsman go watch a sport where theres no money involved. bottom line if shit isnt done to bring in the money the fighters dont get paid. ask them if they would rather fight for nothing and have it be "fair" as you would call it or have to sit on the sidelines for a bit to get a fat check. im pretty sure most of these dude fight for a living.
if a guy can drop 30lbs to fight in a different division then so be it. im pretty sure dana didnt make anderson fight in another class, he WANTED to do it himself. until someone steps up to the plate in middleweight, thats what will happen.
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UFC is not a Sport its Entertainment
All sports are entertainment
Stripping is entertainment you consider that a sport?
sports = entertainment
stripping = entertainment
entertainment =/= sports
nice try though
I was making the comparison of a president of a company giving a title shot (to someone who has a mass media of wwe followers ) to fight for the heavyweight belt with a mma record of 2-1-0. Or having a lw fight a champion ww when there were plenty of ww next in line just to show "What if Entertainment." Or having GSP vs Anderson just because he wants to see a "what if Entertainment." when they clearly are in diff weight class, have nothing to prove in a diff weight class. Tell me what sport does all that in NFL, Soccer, or Basketball. You don't have one basketball team play another basketball team just because they look good but have no rank to do it.
Thats the camparison I made with entertainment and sport. ;)
if you havent noticed, theres not a very large field of heavyweight fighters. who else would have fought? theres like 5 heavy weight fighters in the ufc.
if someone can cut or gain to the next weight class then how do you figure its not thier "weight class" as far as im concerned it is. its not like they are taking a 205 guy and having him weigh in at 205 but fight a guy who weighs in at 170. dont be an idiot.
there is not just five heavyweight figthers in the ufc :?:
brock lesnar only had 3 fights which one of them he lost
Courture was gone for a year(he was the heavyweight champ by beating sylvia) and came back but his first fight was with Brock
before brock came to the ufc Nog was clearly next in line and so was mir.
But they didn't get there title shot he gave it to brock because he new it would draw in money.
Shane carwin should have had the title for the belt since his apperance in UFC 84 he is undefeated
Kongo should have a shot at the title before brock since he went on a 3 fight winning streak after his defeat from Herring
Here the list of UFC heavyweights and records
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira 31-5
Frank Mir 12-4
Shane Carwin 11-0
Cain Velazquez 6-0
Junior Dos Santos 8-1
Barry Pat 3-1
Gonzaga Gabriel 10-4
Hardonk Antoni 8-5
Herring Heath 28-14
Kongo Cheick 20-5
McCully Justin 9-4
Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovik 25-6-2 (now with the UFC)
That doesn't look like five to me. But im the idiot. I can clearly list 8 heavyweights with their record and streak of wins who clearly deserve the title shot before Brock lesnar. Pat barry was a well know kick boxer just enter the UFC and got a 3 fight streak and he didn't get the type of attention Brock Lesnar did when he enter the ufc. Shane Carwin been amazing the past few fights but didn't get the attention Lesnar did either and he is also undefeated. Along with Cain Velasquez, Gonzago Gabriel, and Dos Santos.
BROCK HAS ONLY BEEN IN THE UFC SINCE FEB 2008 AND HIS RECORD IS 4-1
The reason he got the title was because of his fanbase, entertaiment, and money making value. That is it... MONEY AND ENTERTAINMENT.
You want another example?
Lyoto Machida( he is the Champion now) has been dominating opponents since his first debut in UFC 67. Undefeated with a record of 15-0. Everyone who is a fan of MA and MMA knew he was long overdue for a title shot. Matter of fact, he wasn't even suppose to face Rashad Evans..Rampage Jackson was. He only got a chance at the title shot because he was injured and Dana gave it to Lyoto. It clearly shows Lyoto didn't get the shot because people consider him boring and didn't like his style
Shit Dana stated for the TUF season it would consist of Lyoto and Rampage but gave it to Evans because it would draw in more entertainment.
Dana White clearly just wants to make money, bring in more people by displaying "What if Entertainment." If you draw a big crowd of people wanting to see exicting fights he doesn't care about the sportman fair value.
I understand that all sport is for your entertainment. But there is a clear sign when something that suppose to be sportman like is not clearly in that catergory and is just for the entertainment factor for our eyes. (that why i brought the comparison of stripping)
The definition of a sport is Sport is an activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively. Sport is commonly defined as an organized, competitive and skillful physical activity requiring commitment and fair play.
Thats why i don't consider it a sport. I understand you watch it and might know a little about MA or MMA but you don't know enough. You are clearly just going by what you see and just the entertainment of it. :-\
And about the cut and whatever point you were getting at with weight class..wtf are you talking about?
I was making a point on how he is having other fighter in diff division who are dominating in that weight class fight someone else just to see a good fight. :?:
you want sportsman go watch a sport where theres no money involved. bottom line if shit isnt done to bring in the money the fighters dont get paid. ask them if they would rather fight for nothing and have it be "fair" as you would call it or have to sit on the sidelines for a bit to get a fat check. im pretty sure most of these dude fight for a living.
if a guy can drop 30lbs to fight in a different division then so be it. im pretty sure dana didnt make anderson fight in another class, he WANTED to do it himself. until someone steps up to the plate in middleweight, thats what will happen.
thank you for proving my point that its not sport. And please stop acting like you know anything about MMA when you don't.
ALL SPORT INVOLVES MONEY so what are you talking about again?
They are only making money when they fight. They one who are fighting are the one who making money. So if you were in a 5 winning fight streak and someone who is a bigger name than you gets a shot at a title and would get more money (even though you deserve that shot and money first) you wouldn't be upset right?
first off not all the fighters are just in the UFC for money. Brock is but not Lyoto, Anderson, Fedor, and many others. They are there because they are fighters and want to fight. Why do you think Cro cop left the UFC? because he wanted to fight more than 3 fights in a year. He didn't give a shit about the money.
Why do you think Fedor is not in the UFC. Because he can see the money hungry tyrant bullshit Dana is. He can give a shit about the money
Dana said he wanted Anderson and Lyoto to fight. They said they would never fight each other because they respect each other. They dont give a shit about the money.
GSP was hinted to fight Anderson but doesn't want to right away and said maybe in the future. He doesn't give a shit about the moeny.
I'll make it clear for you since your not getting the weight issue I brought up.
Dana wanted GSP and Anderson to fight. GSP is a ww. Anderson is MW. GSP doesn't see why he has to fight Anderson because they are not in the same weight class. He turned that down as his next fight because he rather compete in the WW division and clean that division out. Once he does all that and can get his weight and train as a mw then MAYBE he will fight Anderson.
He see that just Dana trying to draw a hugh crowd to watch ufc when they aren't in the same weight class.
GSP walks around 190. Anderson walks around 215. Again I don't know what your getting at with the weight class. Are you saying how much they normally weight before they drop down? That not what im talking about kid...
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UFC is not a Sport its Entertainment
All sports are entertainment
Stripping is entertainment you consider that a sport?
sports = entertainment
stripping = entertainment
entertainment =/= sports
nice try though
I was making the comparison of a president of a company giving a title shot (to someone who has a mass media of wwe followers ) to fight for the heavyweight belt with a mma record of 2-1-0. Or having a lw fight a champion ww when there were plenty of ww next in line just to show "What if Entertainment." Or having GSP vs Anderson just because he wants to see a "what if Entertainment." when they clearly are in diff weight class, have nothing to prove in a diff weight class. Tell me what sport does all that in NFL, Soccer, or Basketball. You don't have one basketball team play another basketball team just because they look good but have no rank to do it.
Thats the camparison I made with entertainment and sport. ;)
if you havent noticed, theres not a very large field of heavyweight fighters. who else would have fought? theres like 5 heavy weight fighters in the ufc.
if someone can cut or gain to the next weight class then how do you figure its not thier "weight class" as far as im concerned it is. its not like they are taking a 205 guy and having him weigh in at 205 but fight a guy who weighs in at 170. dont be an idiot.
there is not just five heavyweight figthers in the ufc :?:
brock lesnar only had 3 fights which one of them he lost
Courture was gone for a year(he was the heavyweight champ by beating sylvia) and came back but his first fight was with Brock
before brock came to the ufc Nog was clearly next in line and so was mir.
But they didn't get there title shot he gave it to brock because he new it would draw in money.
Shane carwin should have had the title for the belt since his apperance in UFC 84 he is undefeated
Kongo should have a shot at the title before brock since he went on a 3 fight winning streak after his defeat from Herring
Here the list of UFC heavyweights and records
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira 31-5
Frank Mir 12-4
Shane Carwin 11-0
Cain Velazquez 6-0
Junior Dos Santos 8-1
Barry Pat 3-1
Gonzaga Gabriel 10-4
Hardonk Antoni 8-5
Herring Heath 28-14
Kongo Cheick 20-5
McCully Justin 9-4
Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovik 25-6-2 (now with the UFC)
That doesn't look like five to me. But im the idiot. I can clearly list 8 heavyweights with their record and streak of wins who clearly deserve the title shot before Brock lesnar. Pat barry was a well know kick boxer just enter the UFC and got a 3 fight streak and he didn't get the type of attention Brock Lesnar did when he enter the ufc. Shane Carwin been amazing the past few fights but didn't get the attention Lesnar did either and he is also undefeated. Along with Cain Velasquez, Gonzago Gabriel, and Dos Santos.
BROCK HAS ONLY BEEN IN THE UFC SINCE FEB 2008 AND HIS RECORD IS 4-1
The reason he got the title was because of his fanbase, entertaiment, and money making value. That is it... MONEY AND ENTERTAINMENT.
You want another example?
Lyoto Machida( he is the Champion now) has been dominating opponents since his first debut in UFC 67. Undefeated with a record of 15-0. Everyone who is a fan of MA and MMA knew he was long overdue for a title shot. Matter of fact, he wasn't even suppose to face Rashad Evans..Rampage Jackson was. He only got a chance at the title shot because he was injured and Dana gave it to Lyoto. It clearly shows Lyoto didn't get the shot because people consider him boring and didn't like his style
Shit Dana stated for the TUF season it would consist of Lyoto and Rampage but gave it to Evans because it would draw in more entertainment.
Dana White clearly just wants to make money, bring in more people by displaying "What if Entertainment." If you draw a big crowd of people wanting to see exicting fights he doesn't care about the sportman fair value.
I understand that all sport is for your entertainment. But there is a clear sign when something that suppose to be sportman like is not clearly in that catergory and is just for the entertainment factor for our eyes. (that why i brought the comparison of stripping)
The definition of a sport is Sport is an activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively. Sport is commonly defined as an organized, competitive and skillful physical activity requiring commitment and fair play.
Thats why i don't consider it a sport. I understand you watch it and might know a little about MA or MMA but you don't know enough. You are clearly just going by what you see and just the entertainment of it. :-\
And about the cut and whatever point you were getting at with weight class..wtf are you talking about?
I was making a point on how he is having other fighter in diff division who are dominating in that weight class fight someone else just to see a good fight. :?:
you want sportsman go watch a sport where theres no money involved. bottom line if shit isnt done to bring in the money the fighters dont get paid. ask them if they would rather fight for nothing and have it be "fair" as you would call it or have to sit on the sidelines for a bit to get a fat check. im pretty sure most of these dude fight for a living.
if a guy can drop 30lbs to fight in a different division then so be it. im pretty sure dana didnt make anderson fight in another class, he WANTED to do it himself. until someone steps up to the plate in middleweight, thats what will happen.
thank you for proving my point that its not sport. And please stop acting like you know anything about MMA when you don't.
ALL SPORT INVOLVES MONEY so what are you talking about again?
They are only making money when they fight. They one who are fighting are the one who making money. So if you were in a 5 winning fight streak and someone who is a bigger name than you gets a shot at a title and would get more money (even though you deserve that shot and money first) you wouldn't be upset right?
first off not all the fighters are just in the UFC for money. Brock is but not Lyoto, Anderson, Fedor, and many others. They are there because they are fighters and want to fight. Why do you think Cro cop left the UFC? because he wanted to fight more than 3 fights in a year. He didn't give a shit about the money.
Why do you think Fedor is not in the UFC. Because he can see the money hungry tyrant bullshit Dana is. He can give a shit about the money
Dana said he wanted Anderson and Lyoto to fight. They said they would never fight each other because they respect each other. They dont give a shit about the money.
GSP was hinted to fight Anderson but doesn't want to right away and said maybe in the future. He doesn't give a shit about the moeny.
I'll make it clear for you since your not getting the weight issue I brought up.
Dana wanted GSP and Anderson to fight. GSP is a ww. Anderson is MW. GSP doesn't see why he has to fight Anderson because they are not in the same weight class. He turned that down as his next fight because he rather compete in the WW division and clean that division out. Once he does all that and can get his weight and train as a mw then MAYBE he will fight Anderson.
He see that just Dana trying to draw a hugh crowd to watch ufc when they aren't in the same weight class.
GSP walks around 190. Anderson walks around 215. Again I don't know what your getting at with the weight class. Are you saying how much they normally weight before they drop down? That not what im talking about kid...
are you this dense?
who cares what they walk around at. if someone fights in 185 and decides one day they want to fight in 170 or 205 because they can, who the fuck cares? thats what im saying. if you still dont understand that go back to school and learn some comprehension skills.
what good is being undefeated if the people youre beating are nobodys anyways. can you name me each of the people that those undefeated fighters beat, mr knowitall? do you even know how many people brock has speared, powerbombed and suplexed to get where he is?
who cares if brock got a chance before someone else, it just raises the bar for everyone else. i know i dont want to see mediocre fighters fight each other, its boring, like a boxing match.
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lol you are so dumb. I never said nobody can fight what weight they feel comfortable in. I was making a point that if you fight in a weight class that you already fight in why fight in another if you don't want to because someone else wants to see how much money he can bring in now. GET IT?
soooooo..Lyoto, Anderson, GSP, and BJ are undefeated this whole time because they beat cans??? Right.....
Yes brock did WWE powerbombing people in a man soap opera sport he deserve getting the title shot in a mma sport before anyone else because he prove himself in WWE (a coreograph sport) your exactly right....
that was the dumbest thing i heard you say. Comparing WWE(fake) to MMA(real) to him going for the title shot.
Boxing boring to you because you like to see people beat each other senseless, because you don't like the sport, or because it just involves fist?
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i guess you didnt catch the sarcasm on that part
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i guess you didnt catch the sarcasm on that part
oh my bad :P
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dude, who cares anymore. all sports are about making money. if the athletes played because they loved the game, they would do it for free. it's entertainment, and sport, because there is a competition, and people pay to watch it.
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I should go to Ross this week havent been in awhile. Just have to make sure I dont go on Senior discount day.
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there is no way i'd spend over $20 for a tshirt. so no, i dont have any gay faggoty affliction shirts.
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youre smoking rocks if you think couture has a chance of taking out brock. hes a washed up old man.
bottom line is brock is too powerful and all he has to do is get someone on the ground and its game over for them.
he does have a good chance, he is smarter then lesnar, and the only reason lesnar won is because he got away with a shot to the back of couture's head to send him to the matts. i just watched the fight, it was clear as day. and in that fight couture was controlling the fight. and you just proved my point, he is one dimensional, get to the ground is all he has. if a challenger can defend that then lesnar will be uncomfortable and make a mistake that will cost him the title cause he will get impatient.
as for weigh ins, i never wrestled, but i do know what growth hormones can do. and since we all know that "fighters" in the wwe tend to dope up, i wouldn't be surprised if he uses a special kind of "suppliment" to get back to his bigger weight. gaining 40-50lbs in 3 days just seems a lil fishy
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Hotrex juices every penis he comes across.
Just saying.
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ive been known to wring out a sumputous foreskin every now and again