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Re: UFC 100
« Reply #120 on: July 15, 2009, 01:51:22 PM »

UFC is not a Sport its Entertainment
All sports are entertainment

Stripping is entertainment you consider that a sport?




sports = entertainment
stripping = entertainment
entertainment =/= sports

nice try though

I was making the comparison of a president of a company giving a title shot (to someone who has a mass media of wwe followers ) to fight for the heavyweight belt with a mma record of 2-1-0. Or having a lw fight a champion ww when there were plenty of ww next in line just to show "What if Entertainment." Or having GSP vs Anderson just because he wants to see a "what if Entertainment." when they clearly are in diff weight class, have nothing to prove in a diff weight class. Tell me what sport does all that in NFL, Soccer, or Basketball. You don't have one basketball team play another basketball team just because they look good but have no rank to do it.

Thats the camparison I made with entertainment and sport.  ;)



if you havent noticed, theres not a very large field of heavyweight fighters. who else would have fought? theres like 5 heavy weight fighters in the ufc.

if someone can cut or gain to the next weight class then how do you figure its not thier "weight class" as far as im concerned it is. its not like they are taking a 205 guy and having him weigh in at 205 but fight a guy who weighs in at 170. dont be an idiot.

there is not just five heavyweight figthers in the ufc  :?:

brock lesnar only had 3 fights which one of them he lost

Courture was gone for a year(he was the heavyweight champ by beating sylvia) and came back but his first fight was with Brock

before brock came to the ufc Nog was clearly next in line and so was mir.

But they didn't get there title shot he gave it to brock because he new it would draw in money.

Shane carwin should have had the title for the belt since his apperance in UFC 84 he is undefeated
Kongo should have a shot at the title before brock since he went on a 3 fight winning streak after his defeat from Herring

Here the list of UFC heavyweights and records

Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira 31-5
Frank Mir 12-4
Shane Carwin 11-0
Cain Velazquez 6-0
Junior Dos Santos 8-1
Barry Pat 3-1
Gonzaga Gabriel 10-4
Hardonk Antoni 8-5
Herring Heath 28-14
Kongo Cheick 20-5
McCully Justin 9-4
Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovik  25-6-2 (now with the UFC)

That doesn't look like five to me. But im the idiot. I can clearly list 8 heavyweights with their record and streak of wins who clearly deserve the title shot before Brock lesnar. Pat barry was a well know kick boxer just enter the UFC and got a 3 fight streak and he didn't get the type of attention Brock Lesnar did when he enter the ufc.  Shane Carwin been amazing the past few fights but didn't get the attention Lesnar did either and he is also undefeated. Along with Cain Velasquez, Gonzago Gabriel, and Dos Santos.

BROCK HAS ONLY BEEN IN THE UFC SINCE  FEB 2008 AND HIS RECORD IS 4-1

The reason he got the title was because of his fanbase, entertaiment, and money making value. That is it... MONEY AND ENTERTAINMENT.


You want another example?

 Lyoto Machida( he is the Champion now) has been dominating opponents since his first debut in UFC 67. Undefeated with a record of 15-0. Everyone who is a fan of MA and MMA knew he was long overdue for a title shot. Matter of fact, he wasn't even suppose to face Rashad Evans..Rampage Jackson was. He only got a chance at the title shot because he was injured and Dana gave it to Lyoto.  It clearly shows Lyoto didn't get the shot because people consider him boring and didn't like his style
Shit Dana stated for the TUF season it would consist of Lyoto and Rampage but gave it to Evans because it would draw in more entertainment.


Dana White clearly just wants to make money, bring in more people by displaying "What if Entertainment." If you draw a big crowd of people wanting to see exicting fights he doesn't care about the sportman fair value.

I understand that all sport is for your entertainment. But there is a clear sign when something that suppose to be sportman like is not clearly in that catergory and is just for the entertainment factor for our eyes. (that why i brought the comparison of stripping)

The definition of a sport is Sport is an activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively. Sport is commonly defined as an organized, competitive and skillful physical activity requiring commitment and fair play.

Thats why i don't consider it a sport. I understand you watch it and might know a little about MA or MMA but you don't know enough. You are clearly just going by what you see and just the entertainment of it.  :-\


And about the cut and whatever point you were getting at with weight class..wtf are you talking about?

I was making a point on how he is having other fighter in diff division who are dominating in that weight class fight someone else just to see a good fight.  :?:

you want sportsman go watch a sport where theres no money involved. bottom line if shit isnt done to bring in the money the fighters dont get paid. ask them if they would rather fight for nothing and have it be "fair" as you would call it or have to sit on the sidelines for a bit to get a fat check. im pretty sure most of these dude fight for a living.

if a guy can drop 30lbs to fight in a different division then so be it. im pretty sure dana didnt make anderson fight in another class, he WANTED to do it himself. until someone steps up to the plate in middleweight, thats what will happen.
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Re: UFC 100
« Reply #121 on: July 15, 2009, 02:37:30 PM »

UFC is not a Sport its Entertainment
All sports are entertainment

Stripping is entertainment you consider that a sport?




sports = entertainment
stripping = entertainment
entertainment =/= sports

nice try though

I was making the comparison of a president of a company giving a title shot (to someone who has a mass media of wwe followers ) to fight for the heavyweight belt with a mma record of 2-1-0. Or having a lw fight a champion ww when there were plenty of ww next in line just to show "What if Entertainment." Or having GSP vs Anderson just because he wants to see a "what if Entertainment." when they clearly are in diff weight class, have nothing to prove in a diff weight class. Tell me what sport does all that in NFL, Soccer, or Basketball. You don't have one basketball team play another basketball team just because they look good but have no rank to do it.

Thats the camparison I made with entertainment and sport.  ;)



if you havent noticed, theres not a very large field of heavyweight fighters. who else would have fought? theres like 5 heavy weight fighters in the ufc.

if someone can cut or gain to the next weight class then how do you figure its not thier "weight class" as far as im concerned it is. its not like they are taking a 205 guy and having him weigh in at 205 but fight a guy who weighs in at 170. dont be an idiot.

there is not just five heavyweight figthers in the ufc  :?:

brock lesnar only had 3 fights which one of them he lost

Courture was gone for a year(he was the heavyweight champ by beating sylvia) and came back but his first fight was with Brock

before brock came to the ufc Nog was clearly next in line and so was mir.

But they didn't get there title shot he gave it to brock because he new it would draw in money.

Shane carwin should have had the title for the belt since his apperance in UFC 84 he is undefeated
Kongo should have a shot at the title before brock since he went on a 3 fight winning streak after his defeat from Herring

Here the list of UFC heavyweights and records

Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira 31-5
Frank Mir 12-4
Shane Carwin 11-0
Cain Velazquez 6-0
Junior Dos Santos 8-1
Barry Pat 3-1
Gonzaga Gabriel 10-4
Hardonk Antoni 8-5
Herring Heath 28-14
Kongo Cheick 20-5
McCully Justin 9-4
Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovik  25-6-2 (now with the UFC)

That doesn't look like five to me. But im the idiot. I can clearly list 8 heavyweights with their record and streak of wins who clearly deserve the title shot before Brock lesnar. Pat barry was a well know kick boxer just enter the UFC and got a 3 fight streak and he didn't get the type of attention Brock Lesnar did when he enter the ufc.  Shane Carwin been amazing the past few fights but didn't get the attention Lesnar did either and he is also undefeated. Along with Cain Velasquez, Gonzago Gabriel, and Dos Santos.

BROCK HAS ONLY BEEN IN THE UFC SINCE  FEB 2008 AND HIS RECORD IS 4-1

The reason he got the title was because of his fanbase, entertaiment, and money making value. That is it... MONEY AND ENTERTAINMENT.


You want another example?

 Lyoto Machida( he is the Champion now) has been dominating opponents since his first debut in UFC 67. Undefeated with a record of 15-0. Everyone who is a fan of MA and MMA knew he was long overdue for a title shot. Matter of fact, he wasn't even suppose to face Rashad Evans..Rampage Jackson was. He only got a chance at the title shot because he was injured and Dana gave it to Lyoto.  It clearly shows Lyoto didn't get the shot because people consider him boring and didn't like his style
Shit Dana stated for the TUF season it would consist of Lyoto and Rampage but gave it to Evans because it would draw in more entertainment.


Dana White clearly just wants to make money, bring in more people by displaying "What if Entertainment." If you draw a big crowd of people wanting to see exicting fights he doesn't care about the sportman fair value.

I understand that all sport is for your entertainment. But there is a clear sign when something that suppose to be sportman like is not clearly in that catergory and is just for the entertainment factor for our eyes. (that why i brought the comparison of stripping)

The definition of a sport is Sport is an activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively. Sport is commonly defined as an organized, competitive and skillful physical activity requiring commitment and fair play.

Thats why i don't consider it a sport. I understand you watch it and might know a little about MA or MMA but you don't know enough. You are clearly just going by what you see and just the entertainment of it.  :-\


And about the cut and whatever point you were getting at with weight class..wtf are you talking about?

I was making a point on how he is having other fighter in diff division who are dominating in that weight class fight someone else just to see a good fight.  :?:

you want sportsman go watch a sport where theres no money involved. bottom line if shit isnt done to bring in the money the fighters dont get paid. ask them if they would rather fight for nothing and have it be "fair" as you would call it or have to sit on the sidelines for a bit to get a fat check. im pretty sure most of these dude fight for a living.

if a guy can drop 30lbs to fight in a different division then so be it. im pretty sure dana didnt make anderson fight in another class, he WANTED to do it himself. until someone steps up to the plate in middleweight, thats what will happen.

thank you for proving my point that its not sport. And please stop acting like you know anything about MMA when you don't. 
ALL SPORT INVOLVES MONEY so what are you talking about again?

They are only making money when they fight. They one who are fighting are the one who making money. So if you were in a 5 winning fight streak and someone who is a bigger name than you gets a shot at a title and would get more money (even though you deserve that shot and money first) you wouldn't be upset right?

first off not all the fighters are just in the UFC for money. Brock is but not Lyoto, Anderson, Fedor, and many others. They are there because they are fighters and want to fight. Why do you think Cro cop left the UFC? because he wanted to fight more than 3 fights in a year. He didn't give a shit about the money.

Why do you think Fedor is not in the UFC. Because he can see the money hungry tyrant bullshit Dana is. He can give a shit about the money

Dana said he wanted Anderson and Lyoto to fight. They said they would never fight each other because they respect each other. They dont give a shit about the money.

GSP was hinted to fight Anderson but doesn't want to right away and said maybe in the future. He doesn't give a shit about the moeny.

I'll make it clear for you since your not getting the weight issue I brought up.

Dana wanted GSP and Anderson to fight. GSP is a ww. Anderson is  MW. GSP doesn't see why he has to fight Anderson because they are not in the same weight class. He turned that down as his next fight because he rather compete in the WW division and clean that division out. Once he does all that and can get his weight and train as a mw then MAYBE he will fight Anderson.

He see that just Dana trying to draw a hugh crowd to watch ufc when they aren't in the same weight class. 

GSP walks around 190. Anderson walks around 215. Again I don't know what your getting at with the weight class. Are you saying how much they normally weight before they drop down? That not what im talking about kid...
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Re: UFC 100
« Reply #122 on: July 15, 2009, 02:51:42 PM »



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Re: UFC 100
« Reply #123 on: July 15, 2009, 03:32:01 PM »

UFC is not a Sport its Entertainment
All sports are entertainment

Stripping is entertainment you consider that a sport?




sports = entertainment
stripping = entertainment
entertainment =/= sports

nice try though

I was making the comparison of a president of a company giving a title shot (to someone who has a mass media of wwe followers ) to fight for the heavyweight belt with a mma record of 2-1-0. Or having a lw fight a champion ww when there were plenty of ww next in line just to show "What if Entertainment." Or having GSP vs Anderson just because he wants to see a "what if Entertainment." when they clearly are in diff weight class, have nothing to prove in a diff weight class. Tell me what sport does all that in NFL, Soccer, or Basketball. You don't have one basketball team play another basketball team just because they look good but have no rank to do it.

Thats the camparison I made with entertainment and sport.  ;)



if you havent noticed, theres not a very large field of heavyweight fighters. who else would have fought? theres like 5 heavy weight fighters in the ufc.

if someone can cut or gain to the next weight class then how do you figure its not thier "weight class" as far as im concerned it is. its not like they are taking a 205 guy and having him weigh in at 205 but fight a guy who weighs in at 170. dont be an idiot.

there is not just five heavyweight figthers in the ufc  :?:

brock lesnar only had 3 fights which one of them he lost

Courture was gone for a year(he was the heavyweight champ by beating sylvia) and came back but his first fight was with Brock

before brock came to the ufc Nog was clearly next in line and so was mir.

But they didn't get there title shot he gave it to brock because he new it would draw in money.

Shane carwin should have had the title for the belt since his apperance in UFC 84 he is undefeated
Kongo should have a shot at the title before brock since he went on a 3 fight winning streak after his defeat from Herring

Here the list of UFC heavyweights and records

Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira 31-5
Frank Mir 12-4
Shane Carwin 11-0
Cain Velazquez 6-0
Junior Dos Santos 8-1
Barry Pat 3-1
Gonzaga Gabriel 10-4
Hardonk Antoni 8-5
Herring Heath 28-14
Kongo Cheick 20-5
McCully Justin 9-4
Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovik  25-6-2 (now with the UFC)

That doesn't look like five to me. But im the idiot. I can clearly list 8 heavyweights with their record and streak of wins who clearly deserve the title shot before Brock lesnar. Pat barry was a well know kick boxer just enter the UFC and got a 3 fight streak and he didn't get the type of attention Brock Lesnar did when he enter the ufc.  Shane Carwin been amazing the past few fights but didn't get the attention Lesnar did either and he is also undefeated. Along with Cain Velasquez, Gonzago Gabriel, and Dos Santos.

BROCK HAS ONLY BEEN IN THE UFC SINCE  FEB 2008 AND HIS RECORD IS 4-1

The reason he got the title was because of his fanbase, entertaiment, and money making value. That is it... MONEY AND ENTERTAINMENT.


You want another example?

 Lyoto Machida( he is the Champion now) has been dominating opponents since his first debut in UFC 67. Undefeated with a record of 15-0. Everyone who is a fan of MA and MMA knew he was long overdue for a title shot. Matter of fact, he wasn't even suppose to face Rashad Evans..Rampage Jackson was. He only got a chance at the title shot because he was injured and Dana gave it to Lyoto.  It clearly shows Lyoto didn't get the shot because people consider him boring and didn't like his style
Shit Dana stated for the TUF season it would consist of Lyoto and Rampage but gave it to Evans because it would draw in more entertainment.


Dana White clearly just wants to make money, bring in more people by displaying "What if Entertainment." If you draw a big crowd of people wanting to see exicting fights he doesn't care about the sportman fair value.

I understand that all sport is for your entertainment. But there is a clear sign when something that suppose to be sportman like is not clearly in that catergory and is just for the entertainment factor for our eyes. (that why i brought the comparison of stripping)

The definition of a sport is Sport is an activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively. Sport is commonly defined as an organized, competitive and skillful physical activity requiring commitment and fair play.

Thats why i don't consider it a sport. I understand you watch it and might know a little about MA or MMA but you don't know enough. You are clearly just going by what you see and just the entertainment of it.  :-\


And about the cut and whatever point you were getting at with weight class..wtf are you talking about?

I was making a point on how he is having other fighter in diff division who are dominating in that weight class fight someone else just to see a good fight.  :?:

you want sportsman go watch a sport where theres no money involved. bottom line if shit isnt done to bring in the money the fighters dont get paid. ask them if they would rather fight for nothing and have it be "fair" as you would call it or have to sit on the sidelines for a bit to get a fat check. im pretty sure most of these dude fight for a living.

if a guy can drop 30lbs to fight in a different division then so be it. im pretty sure dana didnt make anderson fight in another class, he WANTED to do it himself. until someone steps up to the plate in middleweight, thats what will happen.

thank you for proving my point that its not sport. And please stop acting like you know anything about MMA when you don't. 
ALL SPORT INVOLVES MONEY so what are you talking about again?

They are only making money when they fight. They one who are fighting are the one who making money. So if you were in a 5 winning fight streak and someone who is a bigger name than you gets a shot at a title and would get more money (even though you deserve that shot and money first) you wouldn't be upset right?

first off not all the fighters are just in the UFC for money. Brock is but not Lyoto, Anderson, Fedor, and many others. They are there because they are fighters and want to fight. Why do you think Cro cop left the UFC? because he wanted to fight more than 3 fights in a year. He didn't give a shit about the money.

Why do you think Fedor is not in the UFC. Because he can see the money hungry tyrant bullshit Dana is. He can give a shit about the money

Dana said he wanted Anderson and Lyoto to fight. They said they would never fight each other because they respect each other. They dont give a shit about the money.

GSP was hinted to fight Anderson but doesn't want to right away and said maybe in the future. He doesn't give a shit about the moeny.

I'll make it clear for you since your not getting the weight issue I brought up.

Dana wanted GSP and Anderson to fight. GSP is a ww. Anderson is  MW. GSP doesn't see why he has to fight Anderson because they are not in the same weight class. He turned that down as his next fight because he rather compete in the WW division and clean that division out. Once he does all that and can get his weight and train as a mw then MAYBE he will fight Anderson.

He see that just Dana trying to draw a hugh crowd to watch ufc when they aren't in the same weight class. 

GSP walks around 190. Anderson walks around 215. Again I don't know what your getting at with the weight class. Are you saying how much they normally weight before they drop down? That not what im talking about kid...

are you this dense?

who cares what they walk around at. if someone fights in 185 and decides one day they want to fight in 170 or 205 because they can, who the fuck cares? thats what im saying. if you still dont understand that go back to school and learn some comprehension skills.

what good is being undefeated if the people youre beating are nobodys anyways. can you name me each of the people that those undefeated fighters beat, mr knowitall? do you even know how many people brock has speared, powerbombed and suplexed to get where he is?

who cares if brock got a chance before someone else, it just raises the bar for everyone else. i know i dont want to see mediocre fighters fight each other, its boring, like a boxing match.
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Re: UFC 100
« Reply #124 on: July 15, 2009, 03:47:30 PM »

lol you are so dumb. I never said nobody can fight what weight they feel comfortable in.  I was making a point that if you fight in a weight class that you already fight in why fight in another if you don't want to because someone else wants to see how much money he can bring in now. GET IT?

soooooo..Lyoto, Anderson, GSP, and BJ are undefeated this whole time because they beat cans??? Right.....

Yes brock did WWE powerbombing people in a man soap opera sport he deserve getting the title shot in a mma sport before anyone else because he prove himself in WWE (a coreograph sport) your exactly right....

that was the dumbest thing i heard you say. Comparing WWE(fake) to MMA(real) to him going for the title shot.

Boxing boring to you because you like to see people beat each other senseless, because you don't like the sport, or because it just involves fist?
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Re: UFC 100
« Reply #125 on: July 15, 2009, 04:34:28 PM »

i guess you didnt catch the sarcasm on that part
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« Reply #126 on: July 15, 2009, 04:37:18 PM »

i guess you didnt catch the sarcasm on that part

oh my bad  :P
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Re: UFC 100
« Reply #127 on: July 15, 2009, 05:38:55 PM »

dude, who cares anymore.  all sports are about making money.  if the athletes played because they loved the game, they would do it for free.  it's entertainment, and sport, because there is a competition, and people pay to watch it. 
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« Reply #128 on: July 15, 2009, 05:47:48 PM »

I should go to Ross this week havent been in awhile. Just have to make sure I dont go on Senior discount day.



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Re: UFC 100
« Reply #129 on: July 16, 2009, 01:31:36 AM »

there is no way i'd spend over $20 for a tshirt. so no, i dont have any gay faggoty affliction shirts.

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Re: UFC 100
« Reply #130 on: July 16, 2009, 09:11:55 PM »

youre smoking rocks if you think couture has a chance of taking out brock. hes a washed up old man.

bottom line is brock is too powerful and all he has to do is get someone on the ground and its game over for them.

he does have a good chance, he is smarter then lesnar, and the only reason lesnar won is because he got away with a shot to the back of couture's head to send him to the matts. i just watched the fight, it was clear as day. and in that fight couture was controlling the fight. and you just proved my point, he is one dimensional, get to the ground is all he has. if a challenger can defend that then lesnar will be uncomfortable and make a mistake that will cost him the title cause he will get impatient.

as for weigh ins, i never wrestled, but i do know what growth hormones can do. and since we all know that "fighters" in the wwe tend to dope up, i wouldn't be surprised if he uses a special kind of "suppliment" to get back to his bigger weight. gaining 40-50lbs in 3 days just seems a lil fishy
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« Reply #131 on: July 16, 2009, 10:13:15 PM »

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« Reply #132 on: July 16, 2009, 10:57:46 PM »

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