:::RHMT::: Real Home Made Turbo
General Category => Engine Management => Topic started by: FreshDA9 on July 16, 2009, 09:05:10 PM
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ok for some reason i cant tune crome with my ostrich? this is some weird issue i have just been having. all i can say is my ostrich is good. keeps running in Limp Mode
Moates Ostrich V.1 with Firmware update
- Have tried 3 different 28pin ribbon cables
- Checksum Removed
- Load Tuner Pro RT ostrich is detected (will be donating to such a great program)
Crome Free
- Latest Version just re downloaded
- Successfully connects to ecu
- Put, Verify works
Moates Burn 1
- Burn map and put in Ecu No check engine lights nothing runs fine?
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What do you have for RTP settings in crome?
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Baud - 920,000 (i have the updated firmware)
Data Bits - 8
Parity - none
Stop bits - 1
Time Out - 250
Max Tries - 250
Now i have my ostrich set to Port 4 but when i "Detect Connection" it will say Connection Successful then after hitting ok it will change to Port 1, it will still send and verify. I then changed port to 1 and still says 1 and will put or verify no problem.
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Have you tuned with your ostrich and crome b4? I know the few times I tuned a setup on turbo edit, everytime you changed something on the map you had to click a tab on te to send the map to the ostrich. Well when I went to tune crome for the first tim with my ostrich I keept hitting the send button and it would fuck up and run into limp mode. So you only need to conect to the ostrich once and after that just chang it on your map and it will auto send it to your ostrich. Just make sure you verify every so often to make sure its still working. If that dosent help then follow the step by step I found here
http://www.moates.net/zips/crome/Tuning%20with%20CROME%20v1.06.pdf (http://www.moates.net/zips/crome/Tuning%20with%20CROME%20v1.06.pdf)
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i'm having the same problem.. my V2 worked AWESOME.. so i sold it because jose got me a fantastic deal on the V1.. low and behold, it doesn't work RTP on crome, but every other EMS works fine with it :-\
edit; nevermind.. i thought you had a RTP issue.. not sure why you run into limp mode
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its not just RTP but when i upload a rom into the ostrich it always goes into limp mode? i have been threw that moates article many times in my life i almost know it by heart. Turbo Edit always worked for me but bad thing is i dont have an obd-0 car anymore to try it out. yes have had this working on crome before.
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1. Open crome (dont load a bin)
2. Click file, then settings,
3. Click rtp tab
4. Under Hardware select Moates Ostrich/Burn1
5. Now select your port that your ostrich is (I always pug my ostrich into the same usb port every time) baud 920000
6. Plug your ostrich into the ecu(red stripe of the ribbon to the pug side of the ecu)
? are you using a zif socket? Make sure its making full contact on all of the pins!
7. Now click detect connection
8. Open your bin now
9. click Plugins>Enhancements>Add Quickdatalogger+RTP
10. Now click the little chip picture in the tool bar at the top of the screen
11. Now the rtp tool bar will show up
12. Now click the put button in the rtp bar that just showed up.
13. Click the realtime update button
14. Start your car and just change shit as you go. (you dont have to click realtimeupdate everytime you make a change) Just make a change, wate 5 seconds and then click verrify every so often to make sure its taken the change.
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tried it your way like 10 times still solid cell with ostrich but no cell with chip? i even cleaned my ports with ftdi and reinstalled them and still same. Also having issue with BRE in my other thread maybe related problem??? ::ReCap:: Tuner Pro connects to ostrich crome detects it and will write and verify just goes solid cell, Burn Chip car runs fine?
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Replace batteries?
*edit*
after you verify, close crome, disconnect ostrich, re connect ostrich, open crome and read. LMK what happens.
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mabey your ribbon is fucked so its not getting a proper connection with ecu.
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The Ostrich can be fucked and do that. Detects, reads, writes just fine but the side of it that interfaces with the ECU is shot.
Try it on another computer, then send it to Moatsie to be checked out.
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ok after doing somethings as told to me by JD in my other thread (BRE) i went and tested my ostrich and crome on a ecu i sitting around (P75). well my car is obd0 converted obd1 with an S300 so i have my plx in where ELD should be and NB is the plx nb and i am running DSM 390cc injectors.
Load a rom p30 and p28 did the normal routine removed check changed injector size etc. ostrich was detected and sent the rom clicked real time then turned the key to on position. finally check engine light went off and so i can tune again. problem is another check engine light came on, and it would tunr off if i unchecked and rechecked Disable atmospheric pressure sensor but after a few seconds would come back on again. i have everything disabled but still would come on?
its not a big deal i will try the ecu in another car to see if this issue is something related to my car or the ecu.
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So you are getting a code 13 I am assuming? Is this swap in a crx hf?
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So you are getting a code 13 I am assuming? Is this swap in a crx hf?
88-89 HF, if I'm correct. I don't think the 90-91 had that problem.
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So I am ASSuming that you know the trick about cutting wires b9 and b11, Should get rid of all your code 13 problems in a crx hf, Ask me how many hours of my life were spent figuring that one out.
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My car is a 91 integra. all ready multi port. problem is somthing with the p75 ecu im testing read a few other threads about it missing R54. im awaiting for my storage unit to be cleaned as a fuck up on there part so i can get back in working on my car, when im in there i will try this out again but now i have ectune license so we will see how this goes.
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So I am ASSuming that you know the trick about cutting wires b9 and b11
Actually, yes and no. I had a list that Speed Phreak gave me 7-8 years ago of four or five different pins that aren't used, and I cut them all. *BAM* the CEL went away, and my idle stopped fluctuatiing whenever I pushed in the clutch.
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Ok tried this ecu in another car. bone stock dx eg. i hooked up the ostrich plugged in the ecu and mase a base rom in EcTune everything connected sent top ecu realtime working. Still having solid cell but if i put a burnt crome chip in it has no solid cell? anyone have similar issues before?
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Okay, you lost me on that. Looks like laptop scratchpad was hit while typing and something got lost.
Try again?
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I posted this on PGMFI aswell.
Ostrich 1
* Updated firmware to run higher Baud
* Used 3 different Ribbon cables
* Com Port 4, Baud 920,000, Latency set to 1
* Replaced Batteries
BRE
* Detects Ostrich on com port 4
* Can send rom and verify
* In the on position Ostrich has solid cell (yes Checksum is removed)
* Same map made Burned to chip = No solid cell car will run fine???
Crome
* Load map, set com port, Ostrich Detected!
* Remove Checksum, add datalogging
* Tuner Tab Put, Then Verify and then click Real Time, Everything ok
* Turn Key on Check Engine turns off then returns 3 seconds later Solid, briefly turn off check engine light by disabling Atmospheric Pressure sensor but comes back on after about 3 seconds?
* Same thing as before burn a chip put it in and runs fine?
EcTune
* Set EcTune Firmware for ostrich
* Made a base map for a stock dx civic
* Ostrich Detected, & Connected Rom sent to Ostrich and Verified
* Turn Key on Solid cell?
* Did not burn a chip because it would cost 1 customer license.
no matter what i use or do i get a solid cell when attempting to tune. here is a little more info. BRE was tested on a PR3 ECu and Crome and EcTune was on a P75 Ecu. Ostrich was also verified with Tuner Pro RT.all my firmware are up to date and i have FT cleaned my system many of times.
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Forgot to mention my S300 works just fine dont know if that narrows anything down either. sent Moates a few emails within the last few weeks ill call him this week if i dont hear anything from him. Thank you guys!!!
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My guess is a fucked ostrich.
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My guess is a fucked ostrich.
thats what im thinking aswell i love my ostrich 1 i guess it might be time to lay it to rest.
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Have you tried a different laptop?
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Have you tried a different laptop?
no i have not i can see if a buddy has one i can borrow and try.
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Yeah, there's something wierd going on here.
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Yeah, there's something wierd going on here.
another guy on pgmfi.org said he had the same issues and moates replaced his ostrich. ill try another laptop and a few other things and if still no prevail ill call craig with everything hooked up in a car and see if he can trace the issue.
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thats a negative other laptop showed same symptom. will be calling moates Wednesday for some over the phone support.
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You'll probably talk to Moatsie's golden boy Darren. I predict a happy outcome for you, sir. :noel:
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You'll probably talk to Moatsie's golden boy Darren. I predict a happy outcome for you, sir. :noel:
just got off the phone with i think craig not 100% sure but found the problem. opened tuner pro rt opened the emulator bank and found it was set on bank3 set it to bank0 and fixed it.
Thank you Moates team and everyone that helped here on RHMT
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Wow, that can screw up other aspects of the Ostrich?
Very interesting.
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Hell JD he couldnt believe that was the issue
Quote - You still good? T hat was a weird thing, wish I knew what had caused it to jump to position 3. Could be something with eCtune or one of the other softwares getting mixed in. End Quote
That was an email after we figured this out Customer service with there team is A+++ gonna go play with crome and ectune some more tomorrow. everything should be golden now havent seen crome respond so well in a long time.
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Their technical support is beyond compare. Moatsie makes me look like a dullard, Darren isn't exactly stupid, and Blundell is doing most of the email support as of a month ago. Everyone there has a hand in designing, coding, and troubleshooting the equipment designs.
Really an awesome company. My only complaint is they don't have more products to offer. I'm not saying that to be flattering - I am bitching about it, they simply don't make enough gear.