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Title: VW has finally succeeded in their ultimate quest.
Post by: dvst8r on August 07, 2009, 09:50:01 AM
This may be a repost.

But VW and Porsche have made the deal, with vw buying porsche.   :'(
Title: Re: VW has finally succeeded in their ultimate quest.
Post by: Robb on August 07, 2009, 09:54:09 AM
This may be a repost.

But VW and Porsche have made the deal, with vw buying porsche.   :'(


It was decided that VW was going to buy them months ago.  They have just been hammering out the details.

VW cant fuck with the porsche cars for like 2-3 years because of legally binding contracts with suppliers.  Most likely expect to find Porsche stuff in VW and not the other way around. 

I dont really care honestly, its not going to affect me.  In less than 2 years the wife will be finished with nursing school and im buying a Cayman and an EVO, and I'll sit at home and take care of the kids.
Title: Re: VW has finally succeeded in their ultimate quest.
Post by: highroller54 on August 07, 2009, 10:16:20 AM
who cares, the new porsche stuff is shit anyways, give me a air cooled 930 and I'll be happy as fuck  :noel:
Title: Re: VW has finally succeeded in their ultimate quest.
Post by: Robb on August 07, 2009, 03:08:44 PM
who cares, the new porsche stuff is shit anyways, give me a air cooled 930 and I'll be happy as fuck  :noel:

I dunno ive driven some quick 930's but they are scary as fuck at speed.  996 Turbo is a tad bit more and they'll make more power for next to nothing in mods and wont feel like they are trying to kill you.

Sewell needs to post the pics of his 930 supra killa.
Title: Re: VW has finally succeeded in their ultimate quest.
Post by: Passenger on August 07, 2009, 03:37:28 PM
Bummer.

I agree with the 930 trying to kill you at speed, really all the early aircooled 911's were that way, but that is part of the experience. I still love their style and love driving them. Really digging the 997tt as well however, just not likely I'll ever have one of those.
Title: Re: VW has finally succeeded in their ultimate quest.
Post by: dvst8r on August 07, 2009, 03:42:27 PM
Bummer.

I agree with the 930 trying to kill you at speed, really all the early aircooled 911's were that way, but that is part of the experience. I still love their style and love driving them. Really digging the 997tt as well however, just not likely I'll ever have one of those.

Your kicking yourself for selling the 935, aren't you...  :P
Title: Re: VW has finally succeeded in their ultimate quest.
Post by: Passenger on August 07, 2009, 03:50:55 PM
Bummer.

I agree with the 930 trying to kill you at speed, really all the early aircooled 911's were that way, but that is part of the experience. I still love their style and love driving them. Really digging the 997tt as well however, just not likely I'll ever have one of those.

Your kicking yourself for selling the 935, aren't you...  :P

Yes :'(
Title: Re: VW has finally succeeded in their ultimate quest.
Post by: fearsomedan on August 08, 2009, 12:08:58 AM


Sewell needs to post the pics of his 930 supra killa.

Yes please.
Title: Re: VW has finally succeeded in their ultimate quest.
Post by: Joseph Davis on August 08, 2009, 10:48:44 AM
Eh... porsche has always = vw

Clueless.
Title: Re: VW has finally succeeded in their ultimate quest.
Post by: highroller54 on August 08, 2009, 10:57:12 AM
Eh... porsche has always = vw

Clueless.

+1
Title: Re: VW has finally succeeded in their ultimate quest.
Post by: Passenger on August 08, 2009, 12:13:21 PM
Eh... porsche has always = vw

Clueless.

+1

Yeah, not quite man.
Title: Re: VW has finally succeeded in their ultimate quest.
Post by: HiProfile on August 08, 2009, 03:26:52 PM
Funny how I recall all the M-T long-term test rusults ending with most Porsches needing more small, yet costly repairs than the shittiest Kia or old Hyundai.
Title: Re: VW has finally succeeded in their ultimate quest.
Post by: Joseph Davis on August 08, 2009, 04:44:26 PM
It's a factory racecar, and they extend the drivetrain warranty if your attitude doesn't suck when you come in.  Worst case half off.
Title: Re: VW has finally succeeded in their ultimate quest.
Post by: 98redcavz24 on August 08, 2009, 04:54:50 PM
Pretty sure I just read "VW" and "succeeded" in the same sentence. This is the point where I close the thread and scratch my head. yes that rhymes
Title: Re: VW has finally succeeded in their ultimate quest.
Post by: j.h.christ on August 08, 2009, 04:55:55 PM
Pretty sure I just read "VW" and "succeeded" in the same sentence.

i've been preaching it for years, the concept isn't new.
Title: Re: VW has finally succeeded in their ultimate quest.
Post by: 98redcavz24 on August 08, 2009, 04:58:15 PM
con·cept   (kŏn'sěpt')

2. Something formed in the mind; a thought or notion. See Synonyms at idea.

Title: Re: VW has finally succeeded in their ultimate quest.
Post by: turbo_dave on August 08, 2009, 06:31:52 PM
Meh, now that Boxsters are piss cheap on the second hand market, this will just mean that Porsches will just become more and more tools for the financed to the hilt type.

VW dealers will soon be servicing them with fixed price repairs and servicing.

Still want a mid 80s 930 turbo fiddled with by RUF. Once got three hot laps of the 'ring in one. There are some benefits to being in Europe :D
Title: Re: VW has finally succeeded in their ultimate quest.
Post by: Passenger on August 08, 2009, 06:39:25 PM
Meh, now that Boxsters are piss cheap on the second hand market, this will just mean that Porsches will just become more and more tools for the financed to the hilt type.

VW dealers will soon be servicing them with fixed price repairs and servicing.

Still want a mid 80s 930 turbo fiddled with by RUF. Once got three hot laps of the 'ring in one. There are some benefits to being in Europe :D

An '89 would be my pick, came from the factory with the g50 tranny :noel:
That 930 body has sex written all over it.
Title: Re: VW has finally succeeded in their ultimate quest.
Post by: j.h.christ on August 08, 2009, 06:47:46 PM
con·cept   (kŏn'sěpt')

2. Something formed in the mind; a thought or notion. See Synonyms at idea.



the idea of vw being associated with success has been in my mind for years, you tard.

Title: Re: VW has finally succeeded in their ultimate quest.
Post by: turbo_dave on August 08, 2009, 06:55:17 PM
True, but there's something about a 4 speed box. Besides, 5 speed 930s are kinda rare, we only got them for 89 :( I don't like the 964 either  :evil:
Title: Re: VW has finally succeeded in their ultimate quest.
Post by: Dli1314 on August 08, 2009, 07:35:05 PM
con·cept   (kŏn'sěpt')

2. Something formed in the mind; a thought or notion. See Synonyms at idea.



the idea of vw being associated with success has been in my mind for years, you tard.



therein lies the problem
Title: Re: VW has finally succeeded in their ultimate quest.
Post by: j.h.christ on August 08, 2009, 07:36:56 PM
con·cept   (kŏn'sěpt')

2. Something formed in the mind; a thought or notion. See Synonyms at idea.



the idea of vw being associated with success has been in my mind for years, you tard.



therein lies the problem

tell me and my wallet about it
Title: Re: VW has finally succeeded in their ultimate quest.
Post by: Joseph Davis on August 08, 2009, 07:45:31 PM
VW hasn't been associated with success for about twenty years.

From what I understand of the 2.0T, they may be embracing Quality again.
Title: Re: VW has finally succeeded in their ultimate quest.
Post by: Passenger on August 08, 2009, 07:51:26 PM
True, but there's something about a 4 speed box. Besides, 5 speed 930s are kinda rare, we only got them for 89 :( I don't like the 964 either  :evil:

You mean notchy shifting similar to a model T? And a clutch that feels like it belongs in a pickup truck?
Title: Re: VW has finally succeeded in their ultimate quest.
Post by: Robb on August 08, 2009, 08:20:21 PM
True, but there's something about a 4 speed box. Besides, 5 speed 930s are kinda rare, we only got them for 89 :( I don't like the 964 either  :evil:

You mean notchy shifting similar to a model T? And a clutch that feels like it belongs in a pickup truck?

Truth.  The g50 is stronger and better gear'd.  The long 4speed gears + shitty k26/27 design = turbo lag. 

Im not a big fan of the 997tt.  The 996tt is the same car without the VTG turbos your gonna toss in the trash before you hit 550 anyway. Plus the 996tt are DIRT fucking cheap.  Ive seen $40,000 for sub 50k models in mint condition.
Title: Re: VW has finally succeeded in their ultimate quest.
Post by: Joseph Davis on August 08, 2009, 11:14:20 PM
True, but there's something about a 4 speed box. Besides, 5 speed 930s are kinda rare, we only got them for 89 :( I don't like the 964 either  :evil:

You mean notchy shifting similar to a model T? And a clutch that feels like it belongs in a pickup truck?

Truth.  The g50 is stronger and better gear'd.  The long 4speed gears + shitty k26/27 design = turbo lag. 

Im not a big fan of the 997tt.  The 996tt is the same car without the VTG turbos your gonna toss in the trash before you hit 550 anyway. Plus the 996tt are DIRT fucking cheap.  Ive seen $40,000 for sub 50k models in mint condition.

I watched an '87 930 clone (NA car converted to 930) with a 5 speed swap go for $31-32K today on Barrett-Jackson.  They were dissing the car for not being original, the five speed apparently detracts from the resale value in West Palm.
Title: Re: VW has finally succeeded in their ultimate quest.
Post by: Passenger on August 08, 2009, 11:19:10 PM
True, but there's something about a 4 speed box. Besides, 5 speed 930s are kinda rare, we only got them for 89 :( I don't like the 964 either  :evil:

You mean notchy shifting similar to a model T? And a clutch that feels like it belongs in a pickup truck?

Truth.  The g50 is stronger and better gear'd.  The long 4speed gears + shitty k26/27 design = turbo lag. 

Im not a big fan of the 997tt.  The 996tt is the same car without the VTG turbos your gonna toss in the trash before you hit 550 anyway. Plus the 996tt are DIRT fucking cheap.  Ive seen $40,000 for sub 50k models in mint condition.

Seriously? 40k for a 996tt?
I'm not real familiar with the 993 and later 911 turbos. I thought they did some improvements to the actual engine for the 997? Any differences in the rest of the drivetrain or suspension?

Only thing I really hate about 996 is the front end.
Title: Re: VW has finally succeeded in their ultimate quest.
Post by: Passenger on August 08, 2009, 11:22:44 PM
True, but there's something about a 4 speed box. Besides, 5 speed 930s are kinda rare, we only got them for 89 :( I don't like the 964 either  :evil:

You mean notchy shifting similar to a model T? And a clutch that feels like it belongs in a pickup truck?

Truth.  The g50 is stronger and better gear'd.  The long 4speed gears + shitty k26/27 design = turbo lag. 

Im not a big fan of the 997tt.  The 996tt is the same car without the VTG turbos your gonna toss in the trash before you hit 550 anyway. Plus the 996tt are DIRT fucking cheap.  Ive seen $40,000 for sub 50k models in mint condition.

I watched an '87 930 clone (NA car converted to 930) with a 5 speed swap go for $31-32K today on Barrett-Jackson.  They were dissing the car for not being original, the five speed apparently detracts from the resale value in West Palm.

Was it a 911 turbo look (basically a 930 with a NA engine that was a factory option) or an actual 911 with welded on fenders and the whole bit?

Thats a hell of a lot of money for a copy, you can get nice factory 930's for that much any day of the week.
Title: Re: VW has finally succeeded in their ultimate quest.
Post by: sewell94 on August 09, 2009, 01:34:52 AM
      I'm slacking on pics of my 930, hopefully soon i'll be working on it  :) I'm doing a g50 tranny swap to my 930,  if i wouldn't have sold my 4 speed for a mint i would just put it back in. Bad move on my part.

      The factory 930 clutch is a beast, it'll hold 750hp. 

     The gearing on the 4 speed box is long as fuck, and the laggy k26 makes it seem 10 times worse. They are notchy as hell. IMO, The orginal 4 speed 930 is stronger than g50, factory says g50-50or52(turbo boxes) are rated for more tq but in the real world 930 boxes just don't break from to much power, i've personally seen a a few high hp g50 cars puke the diffs due to the side covers breaking.

    I'd rather have a 930 over any of the newer models, if i hit the lotto first thing i'd do is go buy another 930.  An early 930 is argueably the best driving experience there is (not some bs new bwm that does the driving for you), not the fastest, or best handling, but the car just has a quality about it that can't be described, you and the car become one, connected to the road..........well unless you puss out going around a turn and let off the gas causing massive overstear, in which case you won't be on the road anymore :)

     
Title: Re: VW has finally succeeded in their ultimate quest.
Post by: Passenger on August 09, 2009, 01:45:26 AM
The 4spds are definitely strong, but they feel too much like a 1942 ford tractor.

Damn, what you are saying is making me crave aircooled 911. :yes:
Title: Re: VW has finally succeeded in their ultimate quest.
Post by: Robb on August 09, 2009, 12:41:29 PM
Yeah thats the one thing about the 930's, they will always hold their value.  Id LOVE a 965 but you cant find em anywhere and when you do they run $10k more than a 930 in better condition.

997tt has the PTC centerdiff/transfercase thingy that is obnoxious and will not hold up to time IMHO. 

996tt is a proven platform whose only real downfall is its looks.  They are tough to work on, but not HALF as bad as a 993tt, whose only real attraction IS its looks. 

My 944 Turbo is cheap as fuck but people think its not lol.  Pretty easy to work on and parts are still available (for now).
Title: Re: VW has finally succeeded in their ultimate quest.
Post by: turbo_dave on August 09, 2009, 05:46:02 PM
I like heavy shifts and turbo lag though :)

Man, stuff is expensive over there. There's a pair of Carerra 996s in a dealer near me. One '93 and one '94 convertible Both up for 16k$
Title: Re: VW has finally succeeded in their ultimate quest.
Post by: Robb on August 10, 2009, 01:20:38 PM
I like heavy shifts and turbo lag though :)

Man, stuff is expensive over there. There's a pair of Carerra 996s in a dealer near me. One '93 and one '94 convertible Both up for 16k$

We were discussing turbo cars. Not faggot slow c2's that lose races to stock mustangs.

Also, there is no such thing as a 93' or 94' 996.  996 are 99' and up 911's.  93 is a 964 and 94 is first year for the 993.