:::RHMT::: Real Home Made Turbo
General Category => Hybrid/Tech => Topic started by: crxvtec91 on November 17, 2009, 02:10:53 PM
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Ok like I posted, in a few months I will be getting a new coil over setup for my crx. If you had the money which would you get and why. To those that have used either of the 2 what are your thoughts, pro's and cons? I want facts not hear say!
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I have Koni's and GC's on Both the EG and my daily EK.. Love em.. I think Ksports are used primarly by people who want to say they have adjustable suspension and don't really care about quality.
Facts... Top SCCA Guys use Koni's , all the fact I need.
Aren't Ksports made in Cambodia?
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Aren't Ksports made in Cambodia?
along with all the other new coilover kits that look identical to ksports
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GC/Koni because thats what I have experience with. You can soften it up for the bitches and harden it up for straightening out some curves.
MantisX
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GC/Koni. Trevor72 and UrbanIndian both have run K-sports and had problems with them leaking/blowing within a year.
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GC/Koni > Kfail
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love my koni's, love the gc coil overs. when the koni's crap out, they are getting shortened and revalved, then i'm gettin much stiffer springs so i can tear up the auto-x
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Whatever you do don't get th race proven dampers, get the china suspension that's anodized a bright fucking color so that you can get plenty of e-blowjobs from the HT crowd.
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I have koni's
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Ground controls are just downright the way to go. Custom spring rates and give them a call
Tell them your plans and they will set you up with a kit that will work,oh lifetime warranty and eibach springs you cant go wrong
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Ground controls are just downright the way to go. Custom spring rates and give them a call
Tell them your plans and they will set you up with a kit that will work,oh lifetime warranty and eibach springs you cant go wrong
Pretty much.
I found 400/300 lb springs Jay @ GC recommended me too much for a street CRX HF, frankly for a pure street car weighing 2200 or under wanting performance I'd mimick the Eibach Pro-kit rates of 275/225. I'm also an old bald failure and mild, but a lot of people agree with me anyway. But, I did tell the guy I drove the vehicle hard and only cared about handling excellence. 20/20 hindsight.
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400/300 on a street CRX? Ouch.
The 350/250 combo on my 90 CRX Si is quite unpleasant, although I did DD it for about 2 years on that setup. They are mated to some very old KYB AGX shocks, so that might be part of the ride harshness.
Both of my hatches are rocking all Eibach or Eibach/K&W suspension. Pretty satisfied with both setups for their intended purposes.
The CRX could definitely benefit form better dampers.
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400f/600r in my 92 cx. with the rear konis on full stiff, my back hurts after any length of driving over 30 min.
CALL koni and gc to see what they suggest for what you want to do. they know more about it than anyone on the board.
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loved both my Koni/GC setups...
infact... by my Tien RE's if you wanna be baller, and ill get me some more Koni/GCs....
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GC/Koni on my hatch. just installed last week.
Called them and they hooked it up with proper spring rates for the car.
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from OCO
Hey, my name's Matt and I'm the Marketing Manager here at Ksport USA. I found this thread via Google, and just wanted to clear some things up.
First and foremost, I'm not here to sell anything. I'm only here to answer questions, and debunk myths. I hope to become a long-term member of onecamonly, and be able to assist members with questions regarding Ksport products both before, during, and after purchase.
The the OP, I would suggest you determine exactly what you want out of your car and its suspension before making such a big decision. The wrong suspension can make a car terrible to drive.
And about race-proven products, a local Honda Time Trial driver, and president of NASA AZ, recently switched his Koni/GC setup for a basic, run of the mill, "Off the shelf" Ksport Kontrol Pro kit and made NO changes, other than spring rates. Any of our customers can order custom springs from us to do the same thing that Tage Evanson has done. He's even been nice enough to share his rates with the community. (14k front/12k rear for his K20-powered, Nitrous-fed EG Hatchback)
Tage has been setting new records, and breaking old records, at just about every event since he switched from the Koni/GC setup. He was running custom-valved Konis, and I believe custom top-hats. He's VERY close to breaking Chris Rados FWD record on a particular track.
Aside from Evanson, another time trial driver has won the NASA Nationals this year on Ksports, in his Sentra SE-R. Joe Ippolito dominated the Southeast TTE class this year, on Kontrol Pros with custom spring rates.
On the other end of the spectrum, I know several people who have Ksports just because of how low you can go with our coilovers.
Sorry for the novel guys, just wanted to clear that up. If anyone has any questions please feel free to give me a call, email me, or pm me here.
@crxvtec91- Good luck on choosing a suspension setup. There's a ton of options, and really it comes down to what you want out of your suspension and how much you're willing to spend.
Thanks,
Matt C.
Ksport Suspension Company
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Koni RACE +gc = very nice but $$$$
I wouldnt go for the ksport/f^2/megan/ ect coilovers
Basically cheap and crappy
i myself stand by the buddyclub RSD coilovers
price is not too bad.
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you only know drag races, so even welded shocks should works good :yes:
P.D ANyway, i love drag racing :D
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you only know drag races, so even welded shocks should works good :yes:
P.D ANyway, i love drag racing :D
Walter your right this is rhmt maybe I should get some blown oem shocks and flux cord them so they dont move :evil:
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I've also got Koni/GC's. Stiff at shit but I have it set it like that
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GC = Local to me as they are just 30mins north of me. Great shit
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I beg for change outside of their business
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I beg for change outside of their business
you too? i thought i was the only one!
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I thought it smelt like soy sauce last time I was there
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I thought it smelt like soy sauce last time I was there
smelled like fresh adobo
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The last time I talked to Jay on the phone he kept screaming at his employees in Yiddish.
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http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1413 (http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1413)
lol
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http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1413 (http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1413)
lol
he was linked from OCO by the OP
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http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1413 (http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1413)
lol
I link him to the best site on the net rhmt, I guess he may have been put off my the love :P
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http://www.onecamonly.com/suspension/3479-ksport-gc-koni.html (http://www.onecamonly.com/suspension/3479-ksport-gc-koni.html)
:noel:
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The last time I talked to Jay on the phone he kept screaming at his employees in Yiddish.
Jay's wife makes amazing matzo ball soup.
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Flip nog will be at cmi with matzo ball soup for all rhmt members
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Koni's have been in racing since jesus was a cowboy. All the top SCCA autocrossers run them. You can rebuild them , and they aren't made in Cambodian Opium dens.
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Koni's have been in racing since jesus was a cowboy. All the top SCCA autocrossers run them. You can rebuild them , and they aren't made in Cambodian Opium dens.
Well, you have to send them into Koni, but yes they are rebuildable.
Bilsteins would be the hot ticket if you knew enough to setup your own valving. Super easy to mod OTS HDs to make them serviceable.
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Bilsteins would be the hot ticket if you knew enough to setup your own valving. Super easy to mod OTS HDs to make them serviceable.
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2 pages of K-Sport Cambodian Fail
http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/grm/k-sport-coilovers/12280/page1/ (http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/grm/k-sport-coilovers/12280/page1/)
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Haha, splifftime sure does get around.
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you know you want to be balla like me O0
got them for dirty cheap, i wouldnt buy them new. plus ksport offers re-valving which matches koni's price.
i thikn they will last since i dont plan on DUMPING my car like most people, if they blow out during auto-x or while being a dumbass, just send them in to be valved and will be good for another couple of years
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If you read that thread I posted, guys were blowing them out in less then a year.
Cambodians are not ballers. They are poor people.
This kid is their head engineer
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yes i am sir, i do most of the assembly work as well
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:D
have confidence in out product
i bought them at a cambodia price, i guaranty once they blow i could just preload them until they are stiffer then all hell and sell them on HT for more then i payed sir
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kfail :P
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I have ksports.
Mine have been dumped, jacked, been thru 3 years of hell and they still work excellent.
I dont think trevors ksports were blown either
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cusco zero1 R with a 800-600 rate...and match that with some potenza RE-11's or direzza star specs.
I cant believe no one has mentioned these 2 other items that should be considered with top end suspension. Brakes and tires.
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man how I miss this car
I hate drunk okinawan's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQJgsEPxttw#normal)
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you need to take off mirror mode in that video. everything is on the wrong side
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I have ksports.
Mine have been dumped, jacked, been thru 3 years of hell and they still work excellent.
I dont think trevors ksports were blown either
You told me yours were leaking...
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which model of ksport are you looking at? It looks like they only offer a 36way adjustable suspension? Jesus. After year of driving insane in the streets, where suspension, tires and brakes was the key to driving, I never made adjustments. -and 36 points...that just doesn't make sense to me.
Koni and GC have been proven over and over again. If I were to purchase suspension tomorrow for a car that needed suspension, I would buy koni/gc combo.
btw, I have a hookup at the tire rack if you are interested. ;)
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-and 36 points...that just doesn't make sense to me.
makes complete sense to me. its for all the fan boys who spend coin on their rides just to say, "yea, my susupension has 36 settins." gets them every time
btw, I have a hookup at the tire rack if you are interested. ;)
pm'ed. but i wish they carried toyos so i can get some madd tite 13" R888s