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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: TTC on November 22, 2009, 02:15:11 PM

Title: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: TTC on November 22, 2009, 02:15:11 PM
So dummy goes out and buys a talon. Subsequent texts look  something like this.


They removed the floor in the trunk to work on the gas tank. I never noticed
I get like 5mpg now
it only makes 6psi of boost
fucking oil line wont thread into head
Come help
gay
I pulled out 50vac lines
feed still fucked
Fucking talon!


With misc texts staying words like "holset, 11s, gonna turn you out"
Poor dummy lol.

But really tho, Talons don't seem to difficult to work on, lots of room, its fairly simple shit.  Only thing i noticed was shitty wiring and more vac lines than an FD.




Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: JACER63 on November 22, 2009, 02:17:59 PM
ok
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: jarebear667 on November 22, 2009, 02:37:28 PM
drivetrain fail

get a nice one. or you're wasting your time. clutch eating bitches.
put a honda harness on it.

i still love my galant tho..
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: TTC on November 22, 2009, 02:38:03 PM
Wasn't a whole lot of point to this thread, just used to taunt him. fuck 5mt, he got an auto.
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: colt45 on November 22, 2009, 03:36:03 PM
man, i want a celica all trac
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: jarebear667 on November 22, 2009, 03:47:51 PM
Y?
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: Robb on November 22, 2009, 04:10:56 PM
DSM= Parts car.  Period.

man, i want a celica all trac

Better transmission and drivetrain, but shittier engine, and heavier car.  Meh.
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: TTC on November 22, 2009, 04:44:54 PM
Alltracs are the worst awd car on the planet.
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: colt45 on November 22, 2009, 08:01:18 PM
so if the all trac is the worst, where would the gsx fall in that rating scale?
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: Phate on November 22, 2009, 08:19:31 PM
so if the all trac is the worst, where would the gsx fall in that rating scale?

Just slightly above an all trac
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: VW-Vortex on November 22, 2009, 08:20:45 PM
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Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: Joseph Davis on November 22, 2009, 08:27:49 PM
so if the all trac is the worst, where would the gsx fall in that rating scale?

Just slightly below an all trac
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: Robb on November 22, 2009, 08:32:03 PM
so if the all trac is the worst, where would the gsx fall in that rating scale?

Just slightly below an all trac

Truth.  Most of the problems with the 3s can be fixed, and worst case you build a 2.2 bottom end and replace the cranks every few years with a cheap widely available camry unit.  Price me a gsx drivetrain and watch me laugh at you. 

Sorry. Ive built dsm and toyota.  The all-trac is ten times the car any dsm is.  Ill take its semi-shitty engine and damn near indestructible drivetrain over the dsm's badass engine and failure drivetrain.




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Only available in autotragic dsg??? Watch while Joseph Davis comes to your house and fists your mother.  :noel:
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: Joseph Davis on November 22, 2009, 08:35:30 PM
Actually, Robb's fantasy is a 4G63 bolted to a 3S transmission of some flavor with a Honda ECU to control it all.


And MR2 Girl's All-Trac has been running longer than any DSM I know of.
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: sewell94 on November 22, 2009, 09:06:46 PM

Sorry. Ive built dsm and toyota.  The all-trac is ten times the car any dsm is.  Ill take its semi-shitty engine and damn near indestructible drivetrain over the dsm's badass engine and failure drivetrain.




truth
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: Robb on November 22, 2009, 09:49:35 PM
Actually, Robb's fantasy is a 4G63 bolted to a 3S transmission of some flavor with a Honda ECU to control it all.

Yes.  Insert porn here to make it complete.  That is all.  :noel:
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: TTC on November 22, 2009, 10:15:30 PM
The problem with the alltrac is parts availability.  They understeer, handle like ass  ect.  I remember hearing it takes 20hours to change a clutch lol.
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: Robb on November 22, 2009, 11:07:04 PM
The problem with the alltrac is parts availability. Which really isnt a problem comparied to a dsm, since it wont break nearly as much.


  They understeer, handle like ass  ect.  And a dsm handles on rails?  LOL

I remember hearing it takes 20hours to change a clutch lol.  It only takes 5 to drop the motor if your slow.  I dont see 20 hours for a clutch.
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: Minor Threat on November 23, 2009, 12:08:12 AM
The problem isn't the car, it's the guy who owned it prior to me.

I'm helicoiling the oil feed threads tomorrow night. weeeee talons!
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: Joseph Davis on November 23, 2009, 12:08:45 AM
The problem isn't the car, it's the guy who owned it prior to me.

Diamond Star Motors?
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: Minor Threat on November 23, 2009, 12:18:28 AM
Ya, them, those pricks.

I have driven this car approx 1.5k and it has been on a flat bed already.

Also, TTC broke my shitty DSM wiring harness twice.
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: colt45 on November 23, 2009, 03:13:14 AM
Ya, them, those pricks.

I have driven this car approx 1.5k and it has been on a flat bed already.

Also, TTC broke my shitty DSM wiring harness twice.

good luck, and dont give up.  fix that shit
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: Robb on November 23, 2009, 09:15:05 AM
DSM= Parts car.  Period.



Get urself an 89 Dodge Colt and swap that drivetrain in, or a summit wagon and go race Bisi for pinks.
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: WPPF on November 23, 2009, 09:58:30 AM
<3 alltracs, you dirty 3s haters.   It takes 2 hours tops to do a clutch.  Less if you've neglected to put annoying things bolts back in such as the flywheel cover bolts :mexi:
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: Robb on November 23, 2009, 10:08:28 AM
<3 alltracs, you dirty 3s haters.   It takes 2 hours tops to do a clutch.  Less if you've neglected to put annoying things bolts back in such as the flywheel cover bolts :mexi:

Eh, bit more than 2 hours.  The transfercase/center diff on the st185/st205 is a bitch to get back on the trans, but other than that a cake walk. 

Put the guts of a 3s tranny (cant remember the trans code at the moment) next to a w5m33 gearset and prepare to laugh.  It makes the dsm trans look wimpy as fuck.

Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: WPPF on November 23, 2009, 10:34:13 AM
Really?   I can do a clutch on my st162 in about an hour flat assuming no bolt issues.  But i can imagine it taking an extra hour to fuck with the dif and get everything aligned.  Those transmissions are not light :?:
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: Joseph Davis on November 23, 2009, 10:44:28 AM
Really?   I can do a clutch on my st162 in about an hour flat assuming no bolt issues.  But i can imagine it taking an extra hour to fuck with the dif and get everything aligned.  Those transmissions are not light :?:

ST162 != ST165, or ST185/205 for that matter.
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: WPPF on November 23, 2009, 10:54:04 AM
Oh yeah, you're right.  It's so much different I wouldn't have any idea what to do with myself.
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: Lowerit on November 23, 2009, 11:05:51 AM
I have a 91 TSi with a rebuilt tranny sitting in cornwall Ont. ...Rusting...  Will sell Cheappppp
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: Joseph Davis on November 23, 2009, 11:11:29 AM
Oh yeah, you're right.  It's so much different I wouldn't have any idea what to do with myself.

You already don't.
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: WPPF on November 23, 2009, 11:20:00 AM
Oh yeah, you're right.  It's so much different I wouldn't have any idea what to do with myself.

You already don't.

I'm just modeling my life after yours since I have no ideas of my own.
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: TTC on November 23, 2009, 11:30:45 AM
I did break your harness lol, but FU i fixed it better than new!

Last I heard in order to take the clutch out of an alltra you have to remove, diff, tranny, a bunch of weird subframe shit ect. I don't speak from experience tho. If it takes 2hours to remove the motor than im assuming that is way fuckin easier.
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: WPPF on November 23, 2009, 11:40:04 AM
The weird sub frame shit needs removed on the st162 also.  It takes like 5 minutes.    The hardest part with the 162 is getting the transmission back on.
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: WPPF on November 23, 2009, 11:58:49 AM
no u
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: colt45 on November 23, 2009, 12:42:40 PM
so what's the best awd setup in the world??
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: TTC on November 23, 2009, 01:25:57 PM
so what's the best awd setup in the world??

Good question.  I vote this

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From what I can tell the Nissan stuff is pretty damned stout, the STI drivetrain seems strong, the audi stuff from what i can tell is strong, my buddy hasnt broken his yet and hes at around 450whp or so? maybe more.  What drivetrain is in the evo? Is it the same junk as talon as far as diff, transfer case ect?
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: Robb on November 23, 2009, 02:18:52 PM
Best AWD system? The Bagger 288 of course.

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Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: TTC on November 23, 2009, 05:06:04 PM
lol BAGGAH!!

But seriously, me and mr threat were talking and decided that it would be easier and cheaper to just buy a tow truck as a DD.
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: Minor Threat on November 23, 2009, 07:33:08 PM
Fuck cheaper, we'd probably make money out of the deal by towing people's busted heaps.
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: brine04 on November 23, 2009, 09:05:36 PM
Fuck cheaper, we'd probably make money out of the deal by towing people's busted heaps.
Fuck yeah I really want a cummins 5500 with a tilt deck for a daily.
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: dvst8r on November 23, 2009, 09:39:33 PM
Fuck cheaper, we'd probably make money out of the deal by towing people's busted heaps.
Fuck yeah I really want a cummins 5500 with a tilt deck for a daily.

Sterling bullet.
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: brine04 on November 24, 2009, 01:57:34 AM
Fuck cheaper, we'd probably make money out of the deal by towing people's busted heaps.
Fuck yeah I really want a cummins 5500 with a tilt deck for a daily.

Sterling bullet.
Yeah I'd rock a dodge but one of the crewcab bullets would be tits.
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: TTC on December 01, 2009, 01:47:00 PM
Fuckin hell. This is a flatbed.
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Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: Joseph Davis on December 01, 2009, 01:51:50 PM
I'm a big fan for not lowering/ground effecting a vehicle that much, but that's a speshul case where the vehicles are actually *useful* that low.
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: Minor Threat on December 01, 2009, 07:57:33 PM
You just like the flame paint job.
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: Joseph Davis on December 01, 2009, 10:01:44 PM
Actually, Sewell's Integra has the flamer paintjob.  Ask him for pics.
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: sewell94 on December 01, 2009, 10:38:38 PM
I better nip this in the bud, before the laughing gets out of hand

yes my car has flames, its ugly as hell.   Debating about what front end to do before i paint the car.

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Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: Minor Threat on December 02, 2009, 12:42:43 AM
The bottom picture makes your car look purple too. Sweet.
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: TTC on December 06, 2009, 04:53:29 PM
So we went out to the country to fix the fuckign giant hole in the talons truck. THe old owner must of smoked some meth and fixed his fuel pump, cause that is the only reason I think anyone would cut the floor out of the truck instead of dropping the tank.  What I dont get is it doesnt even look like anyone even changed anything while they were in there.  Genius. Couple rivets, beer, seam sealer, sheet metal and one princess auto bowl later.

Behold Real homemade bowl.

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I didnt post the engine bay drawings cause I had to pay to get this gay shit off my phone.

Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: Minor Threat on December 06, 2009, 06:10:42 PM
Talon's don't deserve any better than this.

I will post pics of custom TTCfab valvecover later tonight.
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: Robb on December 06, 2009, 08:22:49 PM
Uh, awd 1g's don't need to drop the tank, the back access cover is the pump. Retarded PO is retarded.
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: Minor Threat on December 06, 2009, 09:44:05 PM
Ya, TTC is kinda a ruhtard.

PO was a methhead I think, can't see any other reason to cut out that much trunk, unless it was all rusted or something.

At least now it doesn't sound like I'm driving around with my windows down all the time. Yay for less road noise.
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: TTC on December 06, 2009, 11:06:54 PM
Fuck you, im not a rehtard.  Although, I do tend to keep fixing your car till I break it.
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: HiProfile on December 08, 2009, 03:26:15 AM
Fuck cheaper, we'd probably make money out of the deal by towing people's busted DSMs.

Sounds like a plan.


My friend has a 2g dsm with a 6bolt. Last time he ran another friend his car started on fire. Crank pressure blew the dip stick out, and the red-hot manifold started the oil spray on fire. One thing I've learned is that *ANY* car that could in any way be considered an enthusiast's car (Honda, dsm, 240, etc) is to ALWAYS check every inch of the car over. Most people get them with dreams but no cash. They try doing shit themselves and just ruin the car.

The best thing I've seen so far was probably "fixing" rear brake lines with a vice grips. Unfortunately it came off backing down a hill, and my bro almost crushed my car with his bronco.
Title: Re: Minorthreat buys a first gen talon and we all laugh
Post by: Joseph Davis on December 08, 2009, 09:22:33 AM
They try doing shit themselves and just ruin the car.

The Riceboy Plague FTL