:::RHMT::: Real Home Made Turbo
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: highroller54 on November 29, 2009, 10:31:16 PM
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So I got a "r1" swap and it turns out its a 06 fz1 yamaha, Same thing as a r1 but higher gears on the 5th and 6th, lower compression and gayer cams. The r1 is 180hp and the fz1 is 140 but more low and midrange. So now I'm thinking it might be better but maybe not, it needs boost. putting a mani and turbo on it is fuck all, I cant find what to use for managment though.
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when you say yamaha and turbo, i think of this:
(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.motorcyclespecs.co.za%2FGallery%2520%2520A%2FYamaha%2520XJ650%2520Turbo%2520%25203.jpg&hash=03df9b60174888949e27e9442fa5d5ac966298dd)
i actually saw one of these the other day on the highway.
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You do know you have 2 EGs the dont run right ??? And a wife that dosent like you :P
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You do know you have 2 EGs the dont run right ??? And a wife that dosent like you :P
well aware, you forgot a house with no insulation. But what I dont have is a fwd austin mini with a r1 motor.................yet O0
And one eg runs now :noel:
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i'm turboing an 05' R1 at the moment for a customer. It is NOT an easy affair, lots of custom cnc parts being made so far. If it was a suzuki i would say it is a cake walk.
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Oh and for managment he is using soem power cammander for ignition and a seperate one for fuel.
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Oh and for managment he is using soem power cammander for ignition and a seperate one for fuel.
Bazazz?
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sounds like your the guy I need, can you make a build thread on here of that?
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when you say yamaha and turbo, i think of this:
(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.motorcyclespecs.co.za%2FGallery%2520%2520A%2FYamaha%2520XJ650%2520Turbo%2520%25203.jpg&hash=03df9b60174888949e27e9442fa5d5ac966298dd)
i actually saw one of these the other day on the highway.
I own one and its for sale
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sounds like your the guy I need, can you make a build thread on here of that?
I would prefer to wait untill it is complete to make a thread. but pm me and we can talk. i have some pictures and custom parts that i had made that are in the works to be put into production peices as it seems everyone can slap a turbo on a suzuki but the yamaha's suck balls do to the flanged intakes.
lmk
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Pm me info on that turbo bike. your in the twin cities right?
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use to be in the twin cities I'm in KY now
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well pm me about that bike i'm passes through on my way to charlotte, nc after christmas so who knows.
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Running a PC3 Power Commander in a boosted bike is like running a VAFC hack on a Ferrari. It is a risky at best best with a good tune and will need to be tuned constantly.
Your best bet is to run MegaSquirt or MicroSquirt as they have provisions for boost/ignition control/stepper IAC control/nitrous control, ect.
I'm also a little confused when you said you bought an R1 swap and "realized" it was am FZ1. That's like saying you bought a Prelude and "realized" it was an Accord. Is the chassis an FZ1 with an R1 conversion? (That's a lot of work) Or is it an R1 with an FZ1 eninge? (Also a lot of work for a down-grade)
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Pretty sure he said he bought a "swap" so.... read the first 5 words?
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yes it is a fz1 complete swap. I was told it was a r1 swap and the engine codes are the same.
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Pretty sure he said he bought a "swap" so.... read the first 5 words?
Pretty sure that still makes no "sense" so...
Is it an FZ1 with an R1...? If so,then what with the story about low compression?
You either have -
FZ1/FZ1
FZ1/R1
R1/R1
R1/FZ1
So which is it?
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it is a fz1 engine, wiring harness ecm ect. It is going into a austin mini.
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it is a fz1 engine (5vy same code as a 04-07 r1), wiring harness ecm ect. It is going into a austin mini.
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it is a fz1 engine, wiring harness ecm ect. It is going into a austin mini.
Okay, that's what I was looking for.
The R1 and FZ1 share a common engine block (probably why the casing codes are the same) with different internals and (If I recall correctly) different head geometry. That engine should take to boost just fine, but the Alpha-N injection system won't know what to do with boost as it is mainly an "extrapolated" speed density system.
A PC3 is just going to intercept and modify the inputs from the sensors, augment them and "trick" the ECU into changing it's fueling by reading from different stock parameters. It will NOT give the ECU the information it needs to calculate fueling for a higher volume/denser charge. You will also not be able to run larger injectors on a stock ECU without a MAJOR headache.
Bottom line is you'll need a solution with more capabilities than a PC3 if you want the engine to survive.
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Wow way to go tough faggot, you agreed it is a swap... fucking O0
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Wow way to go tough faggot, you agreed it is a swap... fucking O0
Wow, your neuro-atrophy is astounding! If you close all your NAMBLA tabs and pay attention to the thread, you would see no argument there was a swap, just confusion as to what the "swap" was. It wasn't exactly clear in the OP.
Keep taint-tickling, it's brought you this far in life Sweetcakes.
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(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg36.imageshack.us%2Fimg36%2F671%2Fsouthparknambla.jpg&hash=1fbbc4d2a64436259290cb875a3e5ba6d223d7b0)
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it is a fz1 engine, wiring harness ecm ect. It is going into a austin mini.
Okay, that's what I was looking for.
The R1 and FZ1 share a common engine block (probably why the casing codes are the same) with different internals and (If I recall correctly) different head geometry. That engine should take to boost just fine, but the Alpha-N injection system won't know what to do with boost as it is mainly an "extrapolated" speed density system.
A PC3 is just going to intercept and modify the inputs from the sensors, augment them and "trick" the ECU into changing it's fueling by reading from different stock parameters. It will NOT give the ECU the information it needs to calculate fueling for a higher volume/denser charge. You will also not be able to run larger injectors on a stock ECU without a MAJOR headache.
Bottom line is you'll need a solution with more capabilities than a PC3 if you want the engine to survive.
from what I can tell, it has a heiver crank, lower compression pistons and gayer cams. All the castings are the same, the ecu case is different (plugs and shape) and a higher 5th and 6th gear. I might be easier for me to do a stand alone anyways since a harness would need modded.
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fuck it, be the first to run one off a honda ecu
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it is a fz1 engine, wiring harness ecm ect. It is going into a austin mini.
Okay, that's what I was looking for.
The R1 and FZ1 share a common engine block (probably why the casing codes are the same) with different internals and (If I recall correctly) different head geometry. That engine should take to boost just fine, but the Alpha-N injection system won't know what to do with boost as it is mainly an "extrapolated" speed density system.
A PC3 is just going to intercept and modify the inputs from the sensors, augment them and "trick" the ECU into changing it's fueling by reading from different stock parameters. It will NOT give the ECU the information it needs to calculate fueling for a higher volume/denser charge. You will also not be able to run larger injectors on a stock ECU without a MAJOR headache.
Bottom line is you'll need a solution with more capabilities than a PC3 if you want the engine to survive.
from what I can tell, it has a heiver crank, lower compression pistons and gayer cams. All the castings are the same, the ecu case is different (plugs and shape) and a higher 5th and 6th gear. I might be easier for me to do a stand alone anyways since a harness would need modded.
Are you saying it has a heavier crank from a side by side comparison?
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it is a fz1 engine, wiring harness ecm ect. It is going into a austin mini.
Okay, that's what I was looking for.
The R1 and FZ1 share a common engine block (probably why the casing codes are the same) with different internals and (If I recall correctly) different head geometry. That engine should take to boost just fine, but the Alpha-N injection system won't know what to do with boost as it is mainly an "extrapolated" speed density system.
A PC3 is just going to intercept and modify the inputs from the sensors, augment them and "trick" the ECU into changing it's fueling by reading from different stock parameters. It will NOT give the ECU the information it needs to calculate fueling for a higher volume/denser charge. You will also not be able to run larger injectors on a stock ECU without a MAJOR headache.
Bottom line is you'll need a solution with more capabilities than a PC3 if you want the engine to survive.
from what I can tell, it has a heiver crank, lower compression pistons and gayer cams. All the castings are the same, the ecu case is different (plugs and shape) and a higher 5th and 6th gear. I might be easier for me to do a stand alone anyways since a harness would need modded.
Are you saying it has a heavier crank from a side by side comparison?
no, by internet research.
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Wow way to go tough faggot, you agreed it is a swap... fucking O0
Wow, your neuro-atrophy is astounding! If you close all your NAMBLA tabs and pay attention to the thread, you would see no argument there was a swap, just confusion as to what the "swap" was. It wasn't exactly clear in the OP.
Keep taint-tickling, it's brought you this far in life Sweetcakes.
i think only you were confused as what he was talking about. he clearly said what he had. what he was told, and what he researched. then you came in and tried to act bike smart and came out looking stupid. if you would just read it would of made you seem like you could comprend more then a shit from a steamy shit. not saying you didnt know what you were talking about just that you are a retard. you're thinking outside the box when you dont even have a box.
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i think only you were confused as what he was talking about. he clearly said what he had. what he was told, and what he researched. then you came in and tried to act bike smart and came out looking stupid. if you would just read it would of made you seem like you could comprend more then a shit from a steamy shit. not saying you didnt know what you were talking about just that you are a retard. you're thinking outside the box when you dont even have a box.
WUT?
Wrong there Fresh Fish.
1) He said he had an R1 Swap.
2) Turns out the engine is an FZ1 engine (less powerful)
I guess you don't know close to enough about bikes to BE confused. THERE IS NO R1 ENGINE. WHY WAS A "SWAP" BROUGHT UP?
When someone says "swap" that is indicative of there being a transplant of engine units. There is apparently just the engine assembly and supporting equipment. It was worded in a manor that didn't make sense but Highroller clarified.
Thanks for jumping on the fuck TG bandwagon though, it's nice to know I still have fans. You and Tubgirlb16snatch can keep spooning each other with your FWD economy cars while getting smoked by DSMs and Mustangs. But rest assured, you don't want to get into a pissing contest with me about motorcycles, watercraft, or ATVs little lady. Your "I think I know how's" are no match for my type-U knowlegeabilities. (The U standing for the inability to be contolled)
Your Honda-Tech faggotry is not condoned here.
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hahaha the tough at it again. shut your faggot hole.
he said he bought a swap retard. not did a swap.
Just admit no one fucking cares you know anything about bikes and NO ONE thinks your a "tough" guy.
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hahaha the tough at it again. shut your faggot hole.
he said he bought a swap retard. not did a swap.
Just admit no one fucking cares you know anything about bikes and NO ONE thinks your a "tough" guy.
I realize it hard when you are in your teens but please try to keep up with the conversation and add to it when ever possible. Otherwise you and Telemarketingmonkey can anally punch each other in one of your HT threads.
And post pics of your sister/mother with her address so I can do a "How to" write-up on extrude honing her asshole in front of your family at X-mas dinner.
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yawn, your shit is binoculours and old. just admit you were the only one confused. i dont know much about bikes reason i didnt comment about the bike. but i could understand what he was saying. about the two highlighted things. i know that your a bike guy. so im not doubting you know bike shit. but you sound like a idiot when you cant comprehend what highroller was saying. you had 3 posts that you were nip picking at him about cocks and balls. thats what pisses me off about you. im not on a h-t bandwagon. i dont go around everythread of yours jerking your cock(im sorry i know thats what you want). so continue on.
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yawn, your shit is binoculours and old. just admit you were the only one confused. i dont know much about bikes reason i didnt comment about the bike. but i could understand what he was saying. about the two highlighted things. i know that your a bike guy. so im not doubting you know bike shit. but you sound like a idiot when you cant comprehend what highroller was saying. you had 3 posts that you were nip picking at him about cocks and balls. thats what pisses me off about you. im not on a h-t bandwagon. i dont go around everythread of yours jerking your cock(im sorry i know thats what you want). so continue on.
I CLEARLY stated I was confused and why. What is your argument there kid?
You CLEARLY know nothing about bikes so why are you posting in a thread titled "Who Knows Yamaha Streetbike Tuboin' "?
I sound like an idiot because it was not clear what engine he had and if or if not there was even a bike involved? OK
You are an HT Bandwagon Honda faggot back-seat cock jocky, that's painfully obvious.
You are a nut-swinger and used to quote my shit, now you think you are gonna get points taking shots here? Check the playbook and keep your skirt out threads where grown folks are talking.
Highroller, I'm on the same page as you now. I could offer some insight as to how turboing a bike and car differ as well as some of the things I've ran into while setting up bikes. Just post here, I'll waive the HT lovebirds' comments.
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i have a yamaha street bike lol
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you're gay.
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lol, only on rhmt. Any help you guys can give will be great. What I really need is a chain drivin diff thats output is reverse to its input. Well that and a mini shell, lol.
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i have a yamaha street bike lol
Is it turboed? :o
lol, only on rhmt. Any help you guys can give will be great. What I really need is a chain drivin diff thats output is reverse to its input. Well that and a mini shell, lol.
http://www.willrace.com/cdd.html (http://www.willrace.com/cdd.html)
I do quite understand why you would want a the output to be the reverse of the input...? Even if you could get a FWD configuration to clear the stator on the from the counter-shaft sprocket, the direction of rotation will still be the same.
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i have a yamaha street bike lol
Is it turboed? :o
no, it was my first bike i got it a little over a year ago. but some came turbo'd lol i defintily give you props for having a turbo bike. i tried to stay away from bikes because i know thats one of the more easier ways i can kill myself. i love watching the ghost rider in stockholm vids.
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I do quite understand why you would want a the output to be the reverse of the input...?
the engine will be turned around ( think backwards)
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I do quite understand why you would want a the output to be the reverse of the input...?
the engine will be turned around ( think backwards)
Ahhh...
That's gonna be tricky. I don't know of any configurations out there like that. You should just put that bad boy in the trunk and run a RWD. That would be fresh.
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thats how most people run them, thats to easy. I prefer the fwd layout for small track/ street cars. Now if it was a drag car..............