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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: WPPF on December 30, 2009, 12:46:25 PM
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http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=271584811 (http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=271584811)
I'm looking for a 4wd suv in the 7k price range for a daily. I'm looking at these, pathfinders, grand cherokees. Suggestions, gentlemen? I'm not properly educated on suburban mother vehicles.
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Electrical nightmares.
When they work they are nice. When they work.
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ive never been a real fan of land rovers. the last one my friends sister had, we left it in east oakland with the key inside the ignition.
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There seem to be a lot up with bad engines and not many above 100k.
How are the 99-04 grand cherokee's with the 4.7?
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The cherokees arn't bad as long as they have been taken care of.
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I worked at a L/R dealership
Run away , far , far , far away.....
I would get a Suzuki sidekick over that.. Subaru Justy , ....anything but that.
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Fuck the 4.7 jeep get teh 4.0 and be happy with awesome mileage and plenty of power. oh and they will cost thousands less. I have driven 2 4.0 powered wranglers and a 4.0 powered WJ grand Cherokee (99-04 i think) and it never had an issue roasting the back tires or getitng me out of what ever i put it in.
the 4.0 inline 6 is a thing of beauty. they are bullet proof.
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I worked at a L/R dealership
Run away , far , far , far away.....
I would get a Suzuki sidekick over that.. Subaru Justy , ....anything but that.
i manage a car lot every one of those landrovers i see are nightmares they are nice but matience on those piles suck not to mention parts are expensive get a 4runner
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Fuck the 4.7 jeep get teh 4.0 and be happy with awesome mileage and plenty of power. oh and they will cost thousands less. I have driven 2 4.0 powered wranglers and a 4.0 powered WJ grand Cherokee (99-04 i think) and it never had an issue roasting the back tires or getitng me out of what ever i put it in.
the 4.0 inline 6 is a thing of beauty. they are bullet proof.
The 4.0 does rock. Will run forever if taken care of.
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I like 4runners but they are out of my price range for what I'm looking for.
Fuck the 4.7 jeep get teh 4.0 and be happy with awesome mileage and plenty of power. oh and they will cost thousands less. I have driven 2 4.0 powered wranglers and a 4.0 powered WJ grand Cherokee (99-04 i think) and it never had an issue roasting the back tires or getitng me out of what ever i put it in.
the 4.0 inline 6 is a thing of beauty. they are bullet proof.
Yeah I wouldn't mind a 4.0. I just am not familiar with the 4.7.
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Get a 4.0 Cherokee Sport with a push bar, pretend you have Grand Cherokee money but like playing macho. You'll fit right in.
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Get a 4.0 Cherokee Sport with a push bar, pretend you have Grand Cherokee money but like playing macho. You'll fit right in.
+1
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Fuck the 4.7 jeep get teh 4.0 and be happy with awesome mileage and plenty of power. oh and they will cost thousands less. I have driven 2 4.0 powered wranglers and a 4.0 powered WJ grand Cherokee (99-04 i think) and it never had an issue roasting the back tires or getitng me out of what ever i put it in.
the 4.0 inline 6 is a thing of beauty. they are bullet proof.
i have a 2000 jeep grand cherokee lareado 4.0L. it sucks for gas mileage. driving only to and from class which is about 3 miles city, i would get 14-15 mpg. i had a buddy with the limited version and the 4.7 and he would get 15-16 around city. we both drive like mad men, i am always in a hurry so i know that doesn't help economy around the city. my 4.0 gets 19-20 straight highway, so still not that great.
my only complaint: i had to put on the thrid water pump at 106k. i don't know why or maybe i'm just having bad luck, but my jeep EATS water pumps. first one went out 60k, replaced with OEM new, that one went out at 106k, replaced with advanced special. maybe that will last longer but they are a PAIN to replace the first time. I've left so many bolts off stuff that was hard to get to i did the last one in about 3 hours. only other thing is the chain drive on the select track transfercase will rub the housing every so often and it makes a noise but the two 12s i have fix that problem easily. over all a decent 4wd suv.
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Get a 4.0 Cherokee Sport with a push bar, pretend you have Grand Cherokee money but like playing macho. You'll fit right in.
+1
The Cherokee sports are a much better combo with the 4.0. Was never one for the push bar thing though.
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Fuck the 4.7 jeep get teh 4.0 and be happy with awesome mileage and plenty of power. oh and they will cost thousands less. I have driven 2 4.0 powered wranglers and a 4.0 powered WJ grand Cherokee (99-04 i think) and it never had an issue roasting the back tires or getitng me out of what ever i put it in.
the 4.0 inline 6 is a thing of beauty. they are bullet proof.
don't exaggerate the gas mileage. lucky to get 22 highway
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Fuck the 4.7 jeep get teh 4.0 and be happy with awesome mileage and plenty of power. oh and they will cost thousands less. I have driven 2 4.0 powered wranglers and a 4.0 powered WJ grand Cherokee (99-04 i think) and it never had an issue roasting the back tires or getitng me out of what ever i put it in.
the 4.0 inline 6 is a thing of beauty. they are bullet proof.
don't exaggerate the gas mileage. lucky to get 22 highway
I saw 26 hwy in the 2000 cherokee I had on a trip back from PA.
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Fuck the 4.7 jeep get teh 4.0 and be happy with awesome mileage and plenty of power. oh and they will cost thousands less. I have driven 2 4.0 powered wranglers and a 4.0 powered WJ grand Cherokee (99-04 i think) and it never had an issue roasting the back tires or getitng me out of what ever i put it in.
the 4.0 inline 6 is a thing of beauty. they are bullet proof.
don't exaggerate the gas mileage. lucky to get 22 highway
I saw 26 hwy in the 2000 cherokee I had on a trip back from PA.
must have been down hill the entire way
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Nope, wasn't downhill. Was drafting transfer trucks most of the way.
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possible i guess but doubtful.
all stock i suppose?
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possible i guess but doubtful.
all stock i suppose?
Completely stock.
Mileage was figured by taking the number of miles driven and dividing by the number of gallons needed to fill up at each stop.
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Either a used 4runner or 4.0 Jeep(anything), both will last a life time.
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I love my '01 Cherokee Sport, but the mileage is shitty.
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Yeah i rocked MaDukes Cherokee with the 4.0 for a few months and i got on average like 20-22 out of it bone stock. If you know how to Hyper mile it a tad its not hard to get decent mileage out of it.
I dunno i think 20-22 is good mileage for a 4x4 inline 6 jeep.
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are the cherokee sports 4x4 ???
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You can get them in both.
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can you american'ts get JDM vehicles still? I see lots of RHD Turbo Diesel Montero's, Hi-Lux's ..ect t around toronto constantly
http://www.terra2imports.ca/import-japan126098672283308.htm (http://www.terra2imports.ca/import-japan126098672283308.htm)
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Sure can't. Especially not in Ohio. I'm going to go check out some cherokee's next week both grand and ungrand.
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No. That guy has an undergrad in physics.
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I think it would be fun to get like a 92 cherokee sport and make a crawler with this:
http://www.lunghd.com/Tech_Articles/Stroker/Stroker.htm (http://www.lunghd.com/Tech_Articles/Stroker/Stroker.htm)
but carbed insted of FI. you can pick up early 90 jeeps for 300 bucks in damn good shape but bad running gear
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Zing!
4.7 is leaps and bounds better than the 4.0
you are crazy. the 4.7 fucking sucks. poor mileage, crappy power.
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Sure can't. Especially not in Ohio.
If the vehicle is 30+ years old, you can own it in America.
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There seem to be a lot up with bad engines and not many above 100k.
How are the 99-04 grand cherokee's with the 4.7?
4.7...
Uh, I wouldn't bother.
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Zing!
4.7 is leaps and bounds better than the 4.0
you are crazy. the 4.7 fucking sucks. poor mileage, crappy power.
Yeah back in the days of the 318 or 360 possibly but the 4.7 was fail.
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4.7 = junk. v8 fuel mileage, 6 cyl power
4.0/4.2 = win bulletproof. plenty of low end torque, damn great engine.
XJ good jeep, cheaper, leafs in the rear
WJ/ZJ also good jeep, a little more comfy, crappy selectrac/quadratrac t cases, coils in rear
if you plan on modding, XJ all the way. For a comfy highway vehicle that sees occasional off road, ZJ/WJ will do just fine.
Heres a buddies grand (at .40)
6" lift , 33"s, rock sliders, ARB bumper, and a 231 t case
Start of jfk from cherokee rock village (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuskEpH1rPM#normal)
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4.7 are junk flat out. Price the engines when you go to replace one nothing less than 1500 for a decent mileage (around 80,000) running one. They have major sludge building issues. 4.0 is way better!
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lol, 'whats that squeaking'
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I'm happy with my WJ the upgraded rear sway bar is a must for daily driving. I live in NYC so gas mileage sucks no matter what ur driving
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Yeah so I'm going to look at 4.0 WJ's then. How are XJ interiors? The cabs look small from the outside and i'm about 6' exactly.
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I'm 6' even and I fit in an XJ just fine with no issues. So long as your not a fatass...
The room between the 2 is actually pretty similar, a little more leg room in the rear in the grand's, but really not much difference in the front.
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I'm sure you are tickling your tonsils on some jeep love but dont let the bullshit against the rovers turn you away. Find a NON-LEASED vehicle and you will be fine. If they have been over-heated (from poor maint) run away. The 97-98 models are the trucks that have had some electric issues. As with anything that has had lack of maint, you will have problems.
Rovers have been proven time and time again. Go look on expedition websites. People hop in rovers, take them to remote places and put 3k+ miles on them at a time. Not saying a jeep wont do the same thing, but quit listening to the bullshit against rovers.
discoweb.org, expeditions west, expeditionportal.com and a few other websites are on the top of my head.
Another vehicle to look at, is Joeys favorite, the Isuzu trooper.
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I really don't have too much of a problem believing them about rover issues. In my search for them a good 30% were blown engine mechanics specials and sub 100k miles.if that's from negligent yuppie maintence or a flawed engine design I can't say. I'm sure like with anything they'll be good with maintence, but I'm busy with work and school and don't have time to sort issues out in my apartment complex parking lot.
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Its not that rovers arent capable its just that they are far over priced for what they are. Jeeps are more bang for your buck period.
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when rover started putting ford engines in their junk they were 200% better.
the new ones are baller. i like them. not for off roading though.
driving 3000 miles on dirt is something a civic could do. those "expeditions" are mostly lame.
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More wj talk less lr talk
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I really don't have too much of a problem believing them about rover issues. In my search for them a good 30% were blown engine mechanics specials and sub 100k miles.if that's from negligent yuppie maintence or a flawed engine design I can't say. I'm sure like with anything they'll be good with maintence, but I'm busy with work and school and don't have time to sort issues out in my apartment complex parking lot.
If this is the case then you dont need anything that is gonna require anything more than midas can't handle. If you are gonna buy anything over 100k, other than a stupid 1991 rusted out honda civic, be prepared for it to nickle and dime you to death. It comes with the territory.
I live in N. Indiana and have found many rovers for the $2-3k range, all in great shape. Hell, you can go to a buy here pay here dealer and get one for $4k. For $5k, you can find them ready to tackle just about anything in this country. Had I not spent $2k on a stupid camera, id be driving one right now. The fact is, 90% of the rovers out there are off lease vehicles that have not been maintained. You find a one or two owner rover, or a rover that can prove its maintenance history, I wouldn't think twice about not buying it.
And your right johnny. All of them were piles of shit, and id take a civic on a 10 day all primitive trip any day of the week. Your idea of an adventure is going out to a mud hole, cracking a few beers and seeing how many times you can run through the fucker before the water is all gone. Sounds like a great time.
I would love to do something like this before I die. Sadly enough, you are much closer than I am, and will settle for the mud hole and a beer.
http://www2.expeditionexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1229 (http://www2.expeditionexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1229)
If its not something you are interested in, keep looking. That leaves one more for me to look at :)
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...http://www2.expeditionexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1229 (http://www2.expeditionexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1229)...
Wow! I have to do something like that before I kick the bucket.
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Frank, I'm not buying an over 100k suv. I can fix anything but I dont have the down time to replace an engine due to a design flaw working 7 days a week and taking 18 credit hours. Although I graduate in a few months, I still need a known reliable vehicle.
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I really don't have too much of a problem believing them about rover issues. In my search for them a good 30% were blown engine mechanics specials and sub 100k miles.
Pretty much.
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Either a used 4runner or 4.0 Jeep(anything), both will last a life time.
The guy that said it is a homo, but his words are true.
Talking about homo you drive a 3.8 rustang. /thread
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don't exaggerate the gas mileage. lucky to get 22 highway
Coming from the guy who got 72mpg in his 5.0l turbo mustang?
lol,
The 4.0l's do blow ass on fuel mileage though. My brother in-law commutes in a 4.7l v8 Grand cherokee and says he gets around 17mpg. Not that bad for what it is. The 4.0l has no balls for towing though
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The 4.0l's do blow ass on fuel mileage though. My brother in-law commutes in a 4.7l v8 Grand cherokee and says he gets around 17mpg. Not that bad for what it is. The 4.0l has no balls for towing though
And the 4.7's do??
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The 4.0l has no balls for towing though
unless you are pulling heavy equipment or big trucks, it does good enough, just don't be stupid. i towed a 86 nissan extended cab hard body 4x4 pickup on a like 17' trailer and it did just fine for the 80 miles i was pulling it. maybe 5-6k lbs. was going 40mph up a 9% grade for about a mile and a quarter but it got there. shit was interesting comming back down without a trailer brake though
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The 4.0l's do blow ass on fuel mileage though. My brother in-law commutes in a 4.7l v8 Grand cherokee and says he gets around 17mpg. Not that bad for what it is. The 4.0l has no balls for towing though
And the 4.7's do??
I think so, I used a Grand Cherokee 4.0l to tow my boat over the pass and it barely fucking made it. 25-30mph and getting passed by everything. I then used a 4.7l Grand Cherokee to tow over the pass another summer with an even heavier boat and it had no problem. Don't get me wrong, I think the 4.0l's are great engines and last forever, just would never use it for towing.
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I've never used a 4.0 for anything more than a 4 wheeler and dirtbike. But I have used a 4.7 pulling a TJ and car trailer. It didn't like it one bit.
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i've had 14k gross weight with my hemi and it did great :)
5.7 hemi > 4.7 > 4.0
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i've got a magnum
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i've had 14k gross weight with my hemi and it did great :)
5.7 hemi > 4.7 > 4.0
The 5.7 might be an okay mid grade truck engine, but it's largely regarded as a piece of shit by the DCX community.
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It owns you
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cherokee sport 4.0 5spds = fun as hell. owned a '97 last year and beat the fuck out of it. wouldnt die till finally i snapped a rear leaf spring in half jumping it and sold it for parts. couple years back i had a '94 but with an auto tranny. put a 3 inch lift new springs all around and 31" mt's on it, was a solid fuckin truck. only got stuck once in the three years i owned it :noel: solid engines, easy as hell to wrench on, if i had the money id buy another one tomorrow. o and glasspacks on these engines sound awesome
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Speaking of the devil, im going to make an offer on this tomorrow. 90 rover. OME lift. Fun.
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http://videos.streetfire.net/video/b3b2d627-5697-408d-ac86-9ced007e33a1.htm (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/b3b2d627-5697-408d-ac86-9ced007e33a1.htm)
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for around $7k you could get a good condition 3rd gen 4runner. probably less than $7k around here. The 5vz is a bullet proof engine too.
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I only was able to watch 50min of that vid, but it now makes me want a rover even more.
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I only was able to watch 50min of that vid, but it now makes me want a rover even more.
God, you are fucking stupid.
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I only was able to watch 50min of that vid, but it now makes me want a rover even more.
God, you are fucking stupid.
+4435687337
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cherokee sport 4.0 5spds = fun as hell. owned a '97 last year and beat the fuck out of it. wouldnt die till finally i snapped a rear leaf spring in half jumping it and sold it for parts. couple years back i had a '94 but with an auto tranny. put a 3 inch lift new springs all around and 31" mt's on it, was a solid fuckin truck. only got stuck once in the three years i owned it :noel: solid engines, easy as hell to wrench on, if i had the money id buy another one tomorrow. o and glasspacks on these engines sound awesome
the 5spds are junk auto is the best
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I only was able to watch 50min of that vid, but it now makes me want a rover even more.
God, you are fucking stupid.
y. no one can say anything other than cough...my throat is being tickled by jeep.
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Because you're ruining my thread with your eccentric hipsterism. They have a place for people like you. It's called California.
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http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=271584811 (http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=271584811)
I'm looking for a 4wd suv in the 7k price range for a daily. I'm looking at these, pathfinders, grand cherokees. Suggestions, gentlemen? I'm not properly educated on suburban mother vehicles.
Ruining your thread? You clearly asked about rovers. There are several posts about how jeeps tow. I am ruining your thread? Who the fuck would tow anything with a jeep? -and then complain about how it towed? Whats the towing capacity of a jeep...3k pounds? and that's probably being generous. Ever been in a jeep...there is no room for anything.
Im not sure why you are looking for a 4x4...you wanna go tackle some trails, you wanna go adventuring with one...you just want 4x4 for snow and such...or you wanna be a johnny and drive through a mud puddle 10000 times while video taping it. Im not sure.
You asked about rovers, and i'm telling you what I know about them. You don't wanna "ruin" your thread, don't post on RHMT -especially in the GD section. lol.
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You asked about rovers, and i'm telling you what I know about them.
Your personal experience with them is absolutely nothing. Shut up.
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FUCK YOU
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ZING!
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your ruining wppf's thread.
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http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=271584811 (http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=271584811)
I'm looking for a 4wd suv in the 7k price range for a daily. I'm looking at these, pathfinders, grand cherokees. Suggestions, gentlemen? I'm not properly educated on suburban mother vehicles.
Ruining your thread? You clearly asked about rovers. There are several posts about how jeeps tow. I am ruining your thread? Who the fuck would tow anything with a jeep? -and then complain about how it towed? Whats the towing capacity of a jeep...3k pounds? and that's probably being generous. Ever been in a jeep...there is no room for anything.
Im not sure why you are looking for a 4x4...you wanna go tackle some trails, you wanna go adventuring with one...you just want 4x4 for snow and such...or you wanna be a johnny and drive through a mud puddle 10000 times while video taping it. Im not sure.
You asked about rovers, and i'm telling you what I know about them. You don't wanna "ruin" your thread, don't post on RHMT -especially in the GD section. lol.
The thread title was asking if those were garbage. It was determined that they were indeed garbage. We then moved onto the second question in the quote where suggestions were asked for from people with suburban mother vehicle experience.
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I has experianz with your motber vehocle
stop ruining his thread.
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It's bad when a pro-Rover guy, who has never owned one and really has no idea what he's talking about, tells you that you are ruining a thread - and he's right.
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stop ruining the thread.
you ruined the isuzu thread with no real life experiences.
stop ruining the thread
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Stop ruining my thread with a meme formed out of spite and not lulz.
Stop ruining my thread!
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I lol every time some fool talks about how poor a TRAIL VECHILE tows.
Hey guys you want to tow. dont pick the 4x4 with a 4 inch wheel base. try a truck.
For christssakes if you wanted to carry a lot of people would you choose a 14 seater van or would you pick a 6 seater wagon?????
Cherokees tow a little so small things would be too bad, you wanna tow a car get a truck. its what they are for.
Use the right tool for the job.
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but its t3H j33p! that p0^^n$!
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http://www.efukt.com/1736_Retarded_&_Horny.html (http://www.efukt.com/1736_Retarded_&_Horny.html)
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hey speaking of which don't you guys think its funny when a fan boi calls other people fan bois cause they realize rovers are fail.
Its ok vesticle. im sure it looks great "hard parked".
I hear when you buy a rover it comes with a tool kit, a cardigan sweater and some black rimmed glasses.
Bonus points if the first place you drive it to is starbucks so you can blog on their " WiFi Hot spot"
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You actually drive up on the sidewalk at Starbucks, get out of the car, take photos with your new lens on your high dollar camera, order a cafe mocha, pull out your laptop, edit the photo, spill coffee your pants, upload it to flicker, write a blog about it, mention spilling coffee on your pants, watch videos on you tube of rovers driving over things, then scowl smugly at jeep owners.
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You do the same thing later when you go to the bar but it involves actually bringing your own home brewed beer into the bar, talking down to people who are drinking microbrews you heard sucked on a few blogs on the internet and casually scowling at people drinking normal beer.
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Caleb FTMFW!
I award you 2 instanets sir.
Caleb 1 Hipsters 0
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I lol every time some fool talks about how poor a TRAIL VECHILE tows.
Hey guys you want to tow. dont pick the 4x4 with a 4 inch wheel base. try a truck.
For christssakes if you wanted to carry a lot of people would you choose a 14 seater van or would you pick a 6 seater wagon?????
Cherokees tow a little so small things would be too bad, you wanna tow a car get a truck. its what they are for.
Use the right tool for the job.
I subtract one instanet for failure to mention your Pilot.
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I didnt mention it cause you know, it goes without saying. he stated his price range and by god you just cant have that much awesome for such a paltry price.
Yeah that was weak, you got me. i unintentionally henried this entire thread.
You're Welcome.
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+1 for starbucks. and ours doesnt have free wifi. >:(
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Wait, brewing your own beer is now a hipster stereotype?
Fuck me.
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Wait, brewing your own beer is now a hipster stereotype?
Fuck me.
its become that yes, sad
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Distilling your own liquor is still respectable.
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My ethics professor brews his own beer..... Complete fag.
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Distilling your own liquor is still respectable.
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Ah, well. Guess it doesn't matter, can't let that stop me from doing what I enjoy.
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Wait, brewing your own beer is now a hipster stereotype?
Fuck me.
its become that yes, sad
how so?
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because all the hipster queerbaits all talk about beer this beer that fucking constantly. and how they make their own beer.
its the coolest hipster thing to do
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There are a handful of people in homebrewing that are smug dick lickers, but for the most part I think homebrewers still drink normal beers. I have a chef friend and he's a complete food snob... it's to be expected sometimes.
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Yeah id say a good amount of folks who "get into" a certain "Hobby" rather its European cars, guns, beer, or Computers get snobish.
I like a good beer but i cant just drink any damn thing that has 4 metric tons of hops in it and say "oh that tasty." no it taste like the smell of horse urine.
Oh shit son. Vesticle just henried us.
STOP RUINING THE THREAD!
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Wait, brewing your own beer is now a hipster stereotype?
Fuck me.
its become that yes, sad
how so?
Not only do you condone buying a Land Rover, you encourage it. And you brew your own beer?
Quit ruining the thread, hipster.
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K. My car just died in 9 degree weather in the middle of a busy intersection and the only person who stopped and helped me push it into a hotel parking lot was a solid old black dude in an old accord. Fuck white people.
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I have a chef friend and he's a complete food snob... it's to be expected sometimes.
Chefs who are food snobs seldom make it past sous chef, at least in a successful restaurant.
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cherokee sport 4.0 5spds = fun as hell. owned a '97 last year and beat the fuck out of it. wouldnt die till finally i snapped a rear leaf spring in half jumping it and sold it for parts. couple years back i had a '94 but with an auto tranny. put a 3 inch lift new springs all around and 31" mt's on it, was a solid fuckin truck. only got stuck once in the three years i owned it :noel: solid engines, easy as hell to wrench on, if i had the money id buy another one tomorrow. o and glasspacks on these engines sound awesome
the 5spds are junk auto is the best
the 5spds are definitely way more fun and give these heeps way more balls down low than the autos. i couldnt believe the acceleration difference when i got my 5spd. the AW4s may be a bit more reliable and common but i'd take the better mileage and higher fun factor any day.
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Wish my 4.0 Cherokee was a manual, but I kinda like talking on the phone/drinking scotch/bong rips/jerking off while driving. So much easier with an auto.
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cherokee sport 4.0 5spds = fun as hell. owned a '97 last year and beat the fuck out of it. wouldnt die till finally i snapped a rear leaf spring in half jumping it and sold it for parts. couple years back i had a '94 but with an auto tranny. put a 3 inch lift new springs all around and 31" mt's on it, was a solid fuckin truck. only got stuck once in the three years i owned it :noel: solid engines, easy as hell to wrench on, if i had the money id buy another one tomorrow. o and glasspacks on these engines sound awesome
the 5spds are junk auto is the best
the 5spds are definitely way more fun and give these heeps way more balls down low than the autos. i couldnt believe the acceleration difference when i got my 5spd. the AW4s may be a bit more reliable and common but i'd take the better mileage and higher fun factor any day.
how is a old slow pos suv "fun" and "reliable"
they are for off roading and the auto is 5000000x better. the 5spd are junk, just as the clutches are junk. the autos are rock solid
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Auto's suck for off road :?:
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Auto's suck for off road :?:
ok
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Auto's suck for off road :?:
yea and in the snow
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when your stuck and rocking back and forth u cant just throw a auto back into reverse/first.
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when your stuck and rocking back and forth u cant just throw a auto back into reverse/first.
Uh....
If you say so.