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Are these garbage?
« on: December 30, 2009, 12:46:25 PM »

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=271584811


I'm looking for a 4wd suv in the 7k price range for a daily.  I'm looking at these, pathfinders, grand cherokees.  Suggestions, gentlemen?   I'm not properly educated on suburban mother vehicles.
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Re: Are these garbage?
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2009, 12:48:03 PM »

Electrical nightmares.

When they work they are nice. When they work.
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Re: Are these garbage?
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2009, 12:48:29 PM »

ive never been a real fan of land rovers.  the last one my friends sister had, we left it in east oakland with the key inside the ignition.  
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Re: Are these garbage?
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2009, 12:49:32 PM »

There seem to be a lot up with bad engines and not many above 100k.


How are the 99-04 grand cherokee's with the 4.7?
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Re: Are these garbage?
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2009, 12:52:42 PM »

The cherokees arn't bad as long as they have been taken care of.
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Re: Are these garbage?
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2009, 01:03:47 PM »

I worked at a L/R dealership

Run away , far , far , far away.....

I would get a Suzuki sidekick over that.. Subaru Justy , ....anything but that.


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Re: Are these garbage?
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2009, 01:14:44 PM »

Fuck the 4.7 jeep get teh 4.0 and be happy with awesome mileage and plenty of power.  oh and they will cost thousands less.  I have driven 2 4.0 powered wranglers and a 4.0 powered WJ grand Cherokee (99-04 i think) and it never had an issue roasting the back tires or getitng me out of what ever i put it in.


the 4.0 inline 6 is a thing of beauty.  they are bullet proof.
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Re: Are these garbage?
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2009, 01:16:25 PM »

I worked at a L/R dealership

Run away , far , far , far away.....

I would get a Suzuki sidekick over that.. Subaru Justy , ....anything but that.



i manage a car lot every one of those landrovers i see are nightmares they are nice but matience on those piles suck not to mention parts are expensive get a 4runner
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Re: Are these garbage?
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2009, 01:32:23 PM »

Fuck the 4.7 jeep get teh 4.0 and be happy with awesome mileage and plenty of power.  oh and they will cost thousands less.  I have driven 2 4.0 powered wranglers and a 4.0 powered WJ grand Cherokee (99-04 i think) and it never had an issue roasting the back tires or getitng me out of what ever i put it in.


the 4.0 inline 6 is a thing of beauty.  they are bullet proof.

The 4.0 does rock. Will run forever if taken care of.
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Re: Are these garbage?
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2009, 01:34:10 PM »

I like 4runners but they are out of my price range for what I'm looking for.

Fuck the 4.7 jeep get teh 4.0 and be happy with awesome mileage and plenty of power.  oh and they will cost thousands less.  I have driven 2 4.0 powered wranglers and a 4.0 powered WJ grand Cherokee (99-04 i think) and it never had an issue roasting the back tires or getitng me out of what ever i put it in.


the 4.0 inline 6 is a thing of beauty.  they are bullet proof.

Yeah I wouldn't mind a 4.0.  I just am not familiar with the 4.7.
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Re: Are these garbage?
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2009, 01:53:58 PM »

Get a 4.0 Cherokee Sport with a push bar, pretend you have Grand Cherokee money but like playing macho.  You'll fit right in.

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Re: Are these garbage?
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2009, 02:02:10 PM »

Get a 4.0 Cherokee Sport with a push bar, pretend you have Grand Cherokee money but like playing macho.  You'll fit right in.


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Re: Are these garbage?
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2009, 02:03:20 PM »

Fuck the 4.7 jeep get teh 4.0 and be happy with awesome mileage and plenty of power.  oh and they will cost thousands less.  I have driven 2 4.0 powered wranglers and a 4.0 powered WJ grand Cherokee (99-04 i think) and it never had an issue roasting the back tires or getitng me out of what ever i put it in.


the 4.0 inline 6 is a thing of beauty.  they are bullet proof.

i have a 2000 jeep grand cherokee lareado 4.0L.  it sucks for gas mileage.  driving only to and from class which is about 3 miles city, i would get 14-15 mpg.  i had a buddy with the limited version and the 4.7 and he would get 15-16 around city.  we both drive like mad men, i am always in a hurry so i know that doesn't help economy around the city.  my 4.0 gets 19-20 straight highway, so still not that great.  

my only complaint: i had to put on the thrid water pump at 106k.  i don't know why or maybe i'm just having bad luck, but my jeep EATS water pumps.  first one went out 60k, replaced with OEM new, that one went out at 106k, replaced with advanced special.  maybe that will last longer but they are a PAIN to replace the first time.  I've left so many bolts off stuff that was hard to get to i did the last one in about 3 hours. only other thing is the chain drive on the select track transfercase will rub the housing every so often and it makes a noise but the two 12s i have fix that problem easily.  over all a decent 4wd suv.  
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Re: Are these garbage?
« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2009, 02:06:17 PM »

Get a 4.0 Cherokee Sport with a push bar, pretend you have Grand Cherokee money but like playing macho.  You'll fit right in.

+1

The Cherokee sports are a much better combo with the 4.0. Was never one for the push bar thing though.
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« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2009, 02:06:38 PM »

Fuck the 4.7 jeep get teh 4.0 and be happy with awesome mileage and plenty of power.  oh and they will cost thousands less.  I have driven 2 4.0 powered wranglers and a 4.0 powered WJ grand Cherokee (99-04 i think) and it never had an issue roasting the back tires or getitng me out of what ever i put it in.


the 4.0 inline 6 is a thing of beauty.  they are bullet proof.

don't exaggerate the gas mileage. lucky to get 22 highway
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Re: Are these garbage?
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2009, 02:09:28 PM »

Fuck the 4.7 jeep get teh 4.0 and be happy with awesome mileage and plenty of power.  oh and they will cost thousands less.  I have driven 2 4.0 powered wranglers and a 4.0 powered WJ grand Cherokee (99-04 i think) and it never had an issue roasting the back tires or getitng me out of what ever i put it in.


the 4.0 inline 6 is a thing of beauty.  they are bullet proof.

don't exaggerate the gas mileage. lucky to get 22 highway

I saw 26 hwy in the 2000 cherokee I had on a trip back from PA.
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Re: Are these garbage?
« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2009, 02:16:00 PM »

Fuck the 4.7 jeep get teh 4.0 and be happy with awesome mileage and plenty of power.  oh and they will cost thousands less.  I have driven 2 4.0 powered wranglers and a 4.0 powered WJ grand Cherokee (99-04 i think) and it never had an issue roasting the back tires or getitng me out of what ever i put it in.


the 4.0 inline 6 is a thing of beauty.  they are bullet proof.



don't exaggerate the gas mileage. lucky to get 22 highway

I saw 26 hwy in the 2000 cherokee I had on a trip back from PA.
must have been down hill the entire way
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« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2009, 02:21:38 PM »

Nope, wasn't downhill. Was drafting transfer trucks most of the way.

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Re: Are these garbage?
« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2009, 02:26:38 PM »

possible i guess but doubtful.

all stock i suppose?
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« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2009, 02:37:25 PM »

possible i guess but doubtful.

all stock i suppose?

Completely stock.

Mileage was figured by taking the number of miles driven and dividing by the number of gallons needed to fill up at each stop.
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Re: Are these garbage?
« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2009, 02:40:36 PM »

Either a used 4runner or 4.0 Jeep(anything), both will last a life time.
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Re: Are these garbage?
« Reply #21 on: December 30, 2009, 03:47:06 PM »

I love my '01 Cherokee Sport, but the mileage is shitty.
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« Reply #22 on: December 30, 2009, 03:50:07 PM »

Yeah i rocked MaDukes Cherokee with the 4.0 for a few months and i got on average like 20-22 out of it bone stock.  If you know how to Hyper mile it a tad its not hard to get decent mileage out of it. 

I dunno i think 20-22 is good mileage for a 4x4 inline 6 jeep. 
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Re: Are these garbage?
« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2009, 04:19:25 PM »

are the cherokee sports 4x4 ???
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« Reply #24 on: December 30, 2009, 04:30:02 PM »

You can get them in both.
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Re: Are these garbage?
« Reply #25 on: December 30, 2009, 04:31:10 PM »

can you american'ts  get JDM vehicles still?   I see lots of RHD Turbo Diesel Montero's, Hi-Lux's ..ect  t around toronto constantly


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« Reply #26 on: December 30, 2009, 04:34:53 PM »

Sure can't. Especially not in Ohio.  I'm going to go check out some cherokee's next week both grand and ungrand.
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Re: Are these garbage?
« Reply #27 on: December 30, 2009, 04:56:24 PM »

No. That guy has an undergrad in physics.
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« Reply #28 on: December 30, 2009, 06:47:09 PM »

I think it would be fun to get like a 92 cherokee sport and make a crawler with this:
http://www.lunghd.com/Tech_Articles/Stroker/Stroker.htm

but carbed insted of FI.  you can pick up early 90 jeeps for 300 bucks in damn good shape but bad running gear
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Re: Are these garbage?
« Reply #29 on: December 30, 2009, 07:18:15 PM »

Zing!

4.7 is leaps and bounds better than the 4.0

you are crazy. the 4.7 fucking sucks. poor mileage, crappy power.
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