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[robus]

Been browsing on pgmfi to find out about the P13 (from an H22).

The posts there say yes it's tunable but the fuel tables need to be changed by hand  , the rest can be done in Crome. Those posts are several years old though, and on Crome's website it says the P13 can be tuned with a plugin... anyone know which plugin I can use to do the job?

We'd like to keep the P13 if possible (knock sensor, double intake runners), that's why.

(ectune nada, neptune nada, already asked)

[d112crzy]

We'd like to keep the P13 if possible (knock sensor, double intake runners), that's why.

Why would you want to keep any of those?


p06, add iab function +vtec. Fuck the Honda knock sensor.

[robus]

heck we thought a knock sensor would be a good thing to have especially on an H22... why not?

[bouncinofftherevlimiter]

heck we thought a knock sensor would be a good thing to have especially on an H22... why not?

that idea ain't worth a velvet painting of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on...

the stock knock sensors are generally from my understanding disabled in higher rpm where they are needed, and terribly inaccurate. IIRC the damage is generally done by the time they do anything.

and why do you say especially on an H22? they arent that knock prone, and if you are worried about the ring lands, they arent any worse than most other stock cast pistons, with a good tune they are able to make good power on stock internals. ask spiker about some of his buddies up WA that make good numbers on stock parts.

just go p06, p28, p30, p72 or whatever and save yourself the trouble.

[robus]

yes it's of the ringlands we were thinking, I knew the knock sensor would have to be upgraded, but if it's not that useful anyway we may as well drop it for another odb1 ecu.

I'm wondering though why did honda install the knock sensor in the first place then, just for low rpm knock? Or i guess extra safety?

[PhilStubbs]

i was recently wondering about this myself. a local offered me a few p13's in trade for a chipped po6. i wasnt sure if they were usable so i made him just buy the ecu. i could probably pick them up cheap still if they are usable though

[Joseph Davis]

I'm wondering though why did honda install the knock sensor in the first place then, just for low rpm knock? Or i guess extra safety?

Where do you get extra safety from a device that only turns on during a light cruise?

[turbob16hatch]

I'm wondering though why did honda install the knock sensor in the first place then, just for low rpm knock? Or i guess extra safety?

Where do you get extra safety from a device that only turns on during a light cruise?

Mr. Davis, can you shed some light on the devise? why it was implimented?

[Joseph Davis]

Trim ignition timing at part throttle cruise for emissions, things get too hot in the chamber and NOx gasses start cranking out.  Too cold, CO and HC.

[turbob16hatch]

Trim ignition timing at part throttle cruise for emissions, things get too hot in the chamber and NOx gasses start cranking out.  Too cold, CO and HC.

thanks

[onlyflash944]

i was recently wondering about this myself. a local offered me a few p13's in trade for a chipped po6. i wasnt sure if they were usable so i made him just buy the ecu. i could probably pick them up cheap still if they are usable though

chris m gives a pretty good price for the p13s in the wanted section