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[Joseph Davis]

http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-USAF-SynFuels.html

Interesting read.

[crxvtec91]

Hum....."China has however stolen a lead on the US, with contracts signed last year with South Africa's SASOL to perform feasibility studies on the construction of two 80,000 barrel per day Coal To Liquids F-T plants, in Ningxia Hu and Shaanxi Provinces. China is almost totally depedent on imported liquid fuels, and is even more strategically exposed than the US."

Why are we always behind if we re one of the "stronger" nations in the world

[Ravage70]

Hum....."China has however stolen a lead on the US, with contracts signed last year with South Africa's SASOL to perform feasibility studies on the construction of two 80,000 barrel per day Coal To Liquids F-T plants, in Ningxia Hu and Shaanxi Provinces. China is almost totally depedent on imported liquid fuels, and is even more strategically exposed than the US."

Why are we always behind if we re one of the "stronger" nations in the world

"stronger" for you is "in debt"

[xpert787]

My grandpa told me about this about a month ago, there is a company(SYNM) that specializes in the FT process, but they developed a way to use fat. They were working on securing a govt contract, the fuel they make also has a higher freezing point then JP-8 which was another benefit for the military. I never bought into it though, you would need an incredible amount of fat, and there is just way more coal and natural gas around right now, maybe in a 100 years when we have exhausted those sources.

[E-b0la]

Why are we always behind if we re one of the "stronger" nations in the world

Because we elect people to our government, who regulate and put a choke-hold on progress.

[Kain]

My grandpa told me about this about a month ago, there is a company(SYNM) that specializes in the FT process, but they developed a way to use fat. They were working on securing a govt contract, the fuel they make also has a higher freezing point then JP-8 which was another benefit for the military. I never bought into it though, you would need an incredible amount of fat, and there is just way more coal and natural gas around right now, maybe in a 100 years when we have exhausted those sources.

fat is anything. plants comtain it, animals contain it. its like carbon. fat is everywhere if you look hard enough. the amount of fat in the us is overwhelming.



ill stick to my e85.

[Joseph Davis]

You can make product gas out of any solid that will burn.

It's called producer gas, and all it is is carbon monoxide.

[Conceptz-X]

JD ever heard of GEET?  Any opinion?

[Joseph Davis]

No, or if I have it's under a different name.

[Conceptz-X]

Supposedly it works, any liquid as fuel

[Conceptz-X]

GEET LAWNMOWER WATER POWER HYBRID PART 1

[Joseph Davis]

No clue.  When it involves magnetism in a non-straightforward manner I usually don't pay a lot of attention.

[Conceptz-X]

ok, Seemed a little off the wall to me, but I guess the thing could work.  Don't know how you'd implement it on a large application where throttle control is a must

[Joseph Davis]

Producer gas was a form of subsistence transportation they (American citizens) used during fuel rationing/shortages in WW1, and I suspect WW2.