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mrgreengenes

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new ford diesel turbo, dual compressors, VGT...
« on: October 17, 2009, 03:39:01 PM »

wonder if it's set up as a compound turbo...  i do want one though...

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looks like both compressors feed the same outlet scroll.

http://www.autoblog.com/gallery/2011-ford-power-stroke-6-7l-diesel-v8
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Re: new ford diesel turbo, dual compressors, VGT...
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2009, 04:26:01 PM »

Ford finally gets a decent IH motor and then they decide to build their own. I wonder how many components require the cab off.
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Re: new ford diesel turbo, dual compressors, VGT...
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2009, 07:58:24 PM »

i just don't get ford, looking at the cummins then the ford. i don't even want to know the replacment cost on the turbo, or how damn complicated it looks. the cummins is super simple.

I understand that emissions has got very strict or something. but shit that looks over the top.
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Re: new ford diesel turbo, dual compressors, VGT...
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2009, 08:53:30 PM »

what a clusterfuck
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Re: new ford diesel turbo, dual compressors, VGT...
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2009, 10:13:01 PM »

i give it props for the log manifolds, but Ford=fail.
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Re: new ford diesel turbo, dual compressors, VGT...
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2009, 10:39:41 PM »

how would you go about setting that turbo up on a honda 4 cylinder just out of curiousity?
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Re: new ford diesel turbo, dual compressors, VGT...
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2009, 01:06:20 AM »

how would you go about setting that turbo up on a honda 4 cylinder just out of curiousity?

Put it on the exhaust manifold
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Re: new ford diesel turbo, dual compressors, VGT...
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2009, 06:47:23 AM »

how would you go about setting that turbo up on a honda 4 cylinder just out of curiousity?

i'd start by ramming your head back up your ass where it belongs
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Re: new ford diesel turbo, dual compressors, VGT...
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2009, 01:10:01 PM »

Awesome!

Non-intercooled cluster fuck.

That out to turn out to be an interesting failure.

Although ford does seem to be doing a few things right now a days...

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Re: new ford diesel turbo, dual compressors, VGT...
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2009, 05:15:13 PM »

obviously to the exhaust manifold..just wondering about the upper and lower outlets on the turbo and how you'd plumb the piping.
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Re: new ford diesel turbo, dual compressors, VGT...
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2009, 09:56:27 PM »

This is very cool stuff, but I need fords to keep failing to keep my shop busy, so botch it ford, just like you usually do. :D
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Re: new ford diesel turbo, dual compressors, VGT...
« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2009, 10:00:18 PM »

Awesome!

Non-intercooled cluster fuck.

That out to turn out to be an interesting failure.

Although ford does seem to be doing a few things right now a days...




Its most likely going to be intercooled...  :-\
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Re: new ford diesel turbo, dual compressors, VGT...
« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2009, 10:08:01 PM »

yeah is there anything not intercooled nowadays? except maybe gen-sets
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Re: new ford diesel turbo, dual compressors, VGT...
« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2009, 10:13:47 PM »

Guess I interpreted the pictures too literally.

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Re: new ford diesel turbo, dual compressors, VGT...
« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2009, 12:12:32 PM »

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Re: new ford diesel turbo, dual compressors, VGT...
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2009, 01:59:58 PM »

that turbo looks fucking boss :)

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Re: new ford diesel turbo, dual compressors, VGT...
« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2009, 11:34:57 AM »

I'd be interested in playing with one of those turbos. I bet they are an arm leg and firstborn though.

I didn't realize the powerjoke turbo wasn't separate compounds instead of on the same shaft. Same setup as one of the old jet engines I got to take apart in school.  Had back to back compressor wheels, but they weren't piped in compound configuration.
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Re: new ford diesel turbo, dual compressors, VGT...
« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2009, 07:28:05 PM »

I saw a Dodge with a sticker once, "I'd rather be CUMMING than STROKING".


That looks rediculous. The only reason I could imagine that setup is to use a higher shaft speed for the same CFM's. That means they're probably using it as an aide to VGT, for boost control. Feed the same low amount of gasses to a high-rpm compressor, and it flows less air. Maybe that helps reduce egt's.

But hell if I know. Modern cars are becoming more complex and less reliable. All for an extra fucking mile per gallon. How many gallons does it take to tow a big truck 100 miles? O0
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Re: new ford diesel turbo, dual compressors, VGT...
« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2009, 09:12:00 PM »

Fuck miles to the gallon, it is just to meet EPA.
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Re: new ford diesel turbo, dual compressors, VGT...
« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2009, 08:56:24 AM »

Buy a Ford drop a Cummins in. End of story and all problems with fords motors :noel:
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Re: new ford diesel turbo, dual compressors, VGT...
« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2009, 09:31:10 PM »

Am I seeing the turbo right, dual inlets?  one on the normal orientation, the other from the shaft side?

interesting none the less.  Actually Ford has been doing quite a bit right lately.  Hopefully this has been in development for some time and not a drawing board disaster
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Re: new ford diesel turbo, dual compressors, VGT...
« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2009, 02:22:36 AM »

two compressor housings with a shared backing plate its a very nifty invention just wait for it to go out of balance and grenade after 5000 miles.

Better buy up the extended warranty!
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Re: new ford diesel turbo, dual compressors, VGT...
« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2009, 07:19:14 PM »

looks like you might be able to put a lot of boost through it and have little to no thrust loads.  at least on the compressor end of things.

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