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[turbob16hatch]

64 bucks for an 11" x 16" steel plate 1" thick

im gonna look into thinner material

but ideally how thick should the welding table top be

I used 1/8" sheet for my table. It's not about the thickness of the top plate but more so about the quality of the structure. I had the 1/8" 4'x8" sheet bent 90* front side down back side up about 6". This not only ad's stregth to the thinner top. but also gives a back to the table so nothing falls off the back.  I used 11 gauge( pretty sure) wall 2" square tubing for the legs and frame of the table. It's heavy and sturdy as shit.

I will see if i can find a picture.

[jay]

64 bucks for an 11" x 16" steel plate 1" thick

im gonna look into thinner material

but ideally how thick should the welding table top be

I used 1/8" sheet for my table. It's not about the thickness of the top plate but more so about the quality of the structure. I had the 1/8" 4'x8" sheet bent 90* front side down back side up about 6". This not only ad's stregth to the thinner top. but also gives a back to the table so nothing falls off the back.  I used 11 gauge( pretty sure) wall 2" square tubing for the legs and frame of the table. It's heavy and sturdy as shit.

I will see if i can find a picture.

sounds like a plan!
depending on difference in cost in material well see...

nice weld in the basement with no ventilation!  that is sick 

basements have windows...

lol im using a small corner room with 2 windows (one of them is sealed shut) ill prolly just have the one window..

thinking bout a small shop vac setup to suck up the exhast :p

mount the shop vac outside and set it up to a switch so when i weld i flip it and ittl suck away the fumes and do whatever it wants with them outside :p

[turbob16hatch]

It cost me $300 for material to build the table, and that included them bending the sheet.

[jay]

some stuff i was looking at!

couple of these.. (ss brushes)
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=66129

couple of these maybe (vice grip clamps)
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=1167

this looks cool
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=544

cheap vice
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=1631

angle grinder
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=65519

kinda digging this dremel tool type thingy on the bench grinder
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=43533

another bench grinder
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=90022

in terms of just getting by i think im gonna just pick up some vice grips and an angle grinder and the ss brushes

maybe a cheap electric powered drill

[turbob16hatch]

get a big ass vice
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=32116

belt sander

this ones ok, i wish i bought the bigger one.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=93981

Bigger one
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=6852

big hammer (smaller like 2lb is more controlable)
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=6747

NICE gloves are key. (btw fuck tig gloves, and having multiple ones to switch out) I use these gloves, there cheap $14ish and last forever. They also conform and slightly shrink to your hand shape, this makes them even more comfortable as time goes on.
http://www.jtillman.com/products/?SKU=1490

That is all forget the tony vice and dremel, just get 2 of the 4.5" or w/e grinders and have different grit pads/flap discs on them, and a air cut off wheel.

[Eggylshatch]

another option besides buying all your shit from HF is watching craigslist for garage and tool sales.  I picked up a sweet ass dewalt electric drill for $25 this past summer.  The kind that'll break your arm from the torque if you're not paying attention

[jay]

another option besides buying all your shit from HF is watching craigslist for garage and tool sales.  I picked up a sweet ass dewalt electric drill for $25 this past summer.  The kind that'll break your arm from the torque if you're not paying attention

yeah i hit up cl every once in a while thats how i got my welder cheap but its hard to find someone who doesnt want 99 bucks for a god damn cordless drill

[jay]

metal came in just now and it was a bunch of buzzkill :p

i got 1 1/2 inch fittings and umm i guess the runners on the 4g63 are bigger than 1 1/2 inches?
what the fuck do i do with a gap this big lol

[97Econobox]

you should measure dooder.

[buk9tp]

I need to crimp the pipe in a vice and it will work fine.

[turbob16hatch]

You worthless fuck, your not really this stupid?   

[malichite]

I'll buy all your old stainless. 1/2 off

[CSaddict]

Jay, figure out how to use that big vice.  :yes:

[glustic]

I see this thead going into failville!

[turbob16hatch]

I see this thead going into failville!

It does get worse after ever one of his posts.

[glustic]

I see this thead going into failville!

It does get worse after ever one of his posts.

At least he hasn't burnt down his house....... yet.

[bigwig]

Have you guys not been around long enough to know Buk?

Buk, before you weld anything to that head flange, make sure you are welding on the face of the flange and not the ass.

I hope you bought some straight sections to slice up into 2" sections to practice welding.  Remember, bevel, clean, and two passes.

[turbob16hatch]

Have you guys not been around long enough to know Buk?

Buk, before you weld anything to that head flange, make sure you are welding on the face of the flange and not the ass.

I hope you bought some straight sections to slice up into 2" sections to practice welding.  Remember, bevel, clean, and two passes.

Haha yeah he did eat pigeon. so.......?

[jay]

You worthless fuck, your not really this stupid?   

no i just noticed that all these baller manifolds never really show the ugly ass bent ends coming off the flange :p

i never really noticed till i looked at a 4g63 turbo manifold lol

bought a 4 1/2 inch angle grinder.. some wire wheels for it.. wire brushes.. a curved file to "match" the flange to the runners.. and some cheap ass vice that im hoping will work to crimp the metal

im practicing on some straight pipe for sure lol

i dont have a bench grinder (ill buy one if this works out) so beveling is gonna suck dick

[jay]

will flanges really warp if your just tacking the damn thing

[malichite]

Try it and find out.  I can tack them without them warping, but when I was first learning I kept the heat on them for a while to get the tack to go.  You need to stop asking questions and start welding some shit and practicing.  That is the best source of answers you are going to get.

[jay]

thanks everyone

gonna start with some actual seat time tomorrow

got a bunch of shit from hf

need to go back and get a grinding disc to bevel with tomorrow

[glustic]

Post pics of said fail attempts at welding

[jay]

Post pics of said fail attempts at welding

havent even started yet

[turbob16hatch]

Post pics of said fail attempts at welding