:::RHMT::: Real Home Made Turbo
General Category => Engine Management => Topic started by: speedjunky01 on July 20, 2009, 09:22:57 AM
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well seeing as how the two step only builds 1-2psi and just sounds gay off the line, so did some digging over in pgmfi.org
this will only work with a p30 base
hit control K and enter the fallowing script
_rom_fill(0x58e6, 0x590d, 0x00); _rom_fill(0x6a99, 0x6ac0, 0x00);
this allows ignition timing to go to negative numbers,
also make sure vtec speed check is NOT disabled
now the slightly confusing part,
set where you want antilag in the add extra features menu
go to your low cam ignition timing and above that RPM retard ignition until it reads -6 from 0" all the way to the maximum PSI the ecu is reading
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now go to your low cam fuel tables and select the same area of the map as the low ignition tables, hit CTRL + J and adjust fuel by +10-15% (play with it until you hear pop pop pop :bigok:
all you have to do is make sure your launch control is set above your vtec activation point,
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EXPLANATION
when you are standing still, the car will run off ONLY the low cam map since vtec speed check is working, so it will retard timing and add fuel off the line creating a true anti-lag. however once moving the ECU will allow vtec to be activated, so you will never hit that area of the map while moving because vtec will activate and switch over to the high cam
video and amount of boost built will be posted tomorrow
all credit to boosted k20 over on Redirection (http://www.pgmfi.org)
if you O0 already know sorry to repost but im sure it will help someone
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I have been doing this for a couple years now, it does build some boost, but it is NOT true antilag. It will also work with a P72 base, I put both scripts you need (for either or) in the BIN directory that was posted up here at rhmt. Edit: link added http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php?topic=3485.0 (http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php?topic=3485.0)
If you have heard true antilag you will know that this is not that.
One more thing 15% is pretty rich and it typically takes longer to spool at that level. I find 5%-10% depending on the motor turbo setup. You have to play with it some to get it to spool up quick and hit hard.
The most I have seen is 15-16psi but that was what the waste gate spring was set for, it may have made more with a stiffer spring, hard to say.
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I have been doing this for a couple years now, it does build some boost, but it is NOT true antilag. It will also work with a P72 base, I put both scripts you need (for either or) in the BIN directory that was posted up here at rhmt. Edit: link added http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php?topic=3485.0 (http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php?topic=3485.0)
If you have heard true antilag you will know that this is not that.
One more thing 15% is pretty rich and it typically takes longer to spool at that level. I find 5%-10% depending on the motor turbo setup. You have to play with it some to get it to spool up quick and hit hard.
The most I have seen is 15-16psi but that was what the waste gate spring was set for, it may have made more with a stiffer spring, hard to say.
i knew some :mexi: in here already figured it out, but figured why not post it. good tip on the fuel amt too, ill play with it some to dial it in
here is a vid of it at 5600rpm, you were right takes its time to spool up
antilag with crome free (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJiXF1U5xxk#lq-hq-vhq)
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what vers of crome are you using?
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what vers of crome are you using?
1.18
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what vers of crome are you using?
1.18
No way.
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old school i was wondering were my check boxes were for the vtp and vts were
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what vers of crome are you using?
1.18
No way.
why is that lol?
IDK have the newest version too, but it keeps craping out with windows 7. 1.18 is good old reliable for me
plus i can datalog with it
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what vers of crome are you using?
1.18
No way.
why is that lol?
IDK have the newest version too, but it keeps craping out with windows 7. 1.18 is good old reliable for me
plus i can datalog with it
No big deal that versions like four years old is all.
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Damn good post.
and you can datalog with that old version of crome free? interesting
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Damn good post.
and you can datalog with that old version of crome free? interesting
when is I gonna be khoolz yet?
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It's the old hacked version?
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It's the old hacked version?
who told you :o
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It's the old hacked version?
yep, that's what I'm thinking.
-d112crzy
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bastards!!
im about to be fucked by J-C
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bastards!!
im about to be fucked by J-C
LOL yeah right you could email him telling on yourself everyday for the rest of your life and never hear back from him. Your safe dude.
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It's the old hacked version?
who told you :o
You admitted it yourself. NO ONE with a legal copy uses 1.1.8. Plus, the datalogging button is visible on your screen shot and it's the only version(that most people know about anyways) that is hacked. And you would have admitted to having purchased crome.
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It's the old hacked version?
who told you :o
You admitted it yourself. NO ONE with a legal copy uses 1.1.8. Plus, the datalogging button is visible on your screen shot and it's the only version(that most people know about anyways) that is hacked. And you would have admitted to having purchased crome.
1.53 was hacked as well, but im not l337 enough to do that shit
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Wasnt that before all the retarded ignition problems got worked out? I popped a ringland at 10psi :-[ on my LS with that shit...
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Wasnt that before all the retarded ignition problems got worked out? I popped a ringland at 10psi :-[ on my LS with that shit...
so far all is well on my 236k z6 at 11psi out of a t3/t4, if it pops then that will be karma ll
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it's the only version(that most people know about anyways) that is hacked
1.53 is hacked as well
i paid for Crome YEARS ago(im completely legit), but i have both hacked versions on my laptop for some stupid reason, lol
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it's the only version(that most people know about anyways) that is hacked
1.53 is hacked as well
i paid for Crome YEARS ago(im completely legit), but i have both hacked versions on my laptop for some stupid reason, lol
I know. I've had the hacked version as well. I also paid for mine.
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bastards!!
im about to be fucked by J-C
LOL yeah right you could email him telling on yourself everyday for the rest of your life and never hear back from him. Your safe dude.
Yet if you're sued by Hondata he sends the second or third largest contribution to your legal defense, then never responds to emails attempting to thank him.
Guys, don't help any n00bs with the cracked shit. You guys have it because you've been around for years, contribute to the scene, and I believe that 90% of you have paid for your copies as you state you have. n00bs need to pay their dues, and John deserves their money. He may be frustratingly hard to get ahold of sometimes but he's a good guy.
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bastards!!
im about to be fucked by J-C
LOL yeah right you could email him telling on yourself everyday for the rest of your life and never hear back from him. Your safe dude.
Yet if you're sued by Hondata he sends the second or third largest contribution to your legal defense, then never responds to emails attempting to thank him.
Guys, don't help any n00bs with the cracked shit. You guys have it because you've been around for years, contribute to the scene, and I believe that 90% of you have paid for your copies as you state you have. n00bs need to pay their dues, and John deserves their money. He may be frustratingly hard to get ahold of sometimes but he's a good guy.
not putting john down in any way, very thankful for his hard work, I plan on buying crome for my built motor, the stocker can blow up on free shit that has glitches
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The free version doesn't have any less glitches than the Pro version, just fyi. Pro just has more options.
If you're going to spend money on software, I'd put it towards eCtune.
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yeah ive heard great things about ECT tune both in stability and it just plain working smoothly and without hickups
buddy of mine is running it on his car i like it a lot from the little bits I saw
plus with a demon and it being wireless would be sick
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Yeah I paid for mine. I wouldn't feel right using cracked pgmfi software.
And maybe it's because crome is all Ive ever use and I get around glitchs without thinking about it but crome really doesn't have glitchs anymore. most of them are called user error.
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+1
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Crome is solid in my book.
Its funny to think that the current v1.5 is light years ahead of the original Hdata 4b setups. And those were marketed as super badass and complete. Pffffftt.
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got a vid up
for flames forward to 0:40
crome free antilag (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBCkqZOwUTI#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)
builds almost 8psi with open DP
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What wastegate spring are you running?
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What wastegate spring are you running?
14psi with 1.5 of a coil cut out and the top coil fluxcored back on, running right around 9-10psi
true rHMT right there
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I find even with a mbc I can't get the crome antilag to go over what the wastegate spring is.
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I find even with a mbc I can't get the crome antilag to go over what the wastegate spring is.
yeah a few others on other forums reported the same thing, not sure why
wither way im picking up eCtune in a bit so GL to all crome tuners
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my ectune antilag was able to build 8 pounds with the internal waste gate flapper wide open. lol
that was classic
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my ectune antilag was able to build 8 pounds with the internal waste gate flapper wide open. lol
that was classic
Have you run your car at mission yet?
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my ectune antilag was able to build 8 pounds with the internal waste gate flapper wide open. lol
that was classic
Have you run your car at mission yet?
ran 11.9 this friday. it was good. i ended up not even using antilag and still blew the 23's @ 7.5psi off no problem. need to try again when the track is a little more sticky
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What kind of MPH?
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nothing spectacular, 114 on the 11 runs and managed to get 116mph on 22's but hooked like shit and spun 2nd quite a bit
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nothing spectacular, 114 on the 11 runs and managed to get 116mph on 22's but hooked like shit and spun 2nd quite a bit
Sounds like it is time for 24.5's, race gas and an unplugged wastegate line. O0
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What is the theory behind antilag?
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What is the theory behind antilag?
It allows you to build boost without drive train load... :P
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What is the theory behind antilag?
It allows you to build boost without drive train load... :P
LOL oh really?
I don't want to know the application of antilag, I want to know how it is able to build boost without load.
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What is the theory behind antilag?
It allows you to build boost without drive train load... :P
LOL oh really?
I don't want to know the application of antilag, I want to know how it is able to build boost without load.
you add extra fuel and retard the ignition so you are essentially using the turbo as an extension of the combustion chamber.
good for spool
probably not so good on exhaust valves and turbos long term
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does combustion actually take place with the exhaust valves open? I've always wondered. And yes i realise that conbustion takes place over a certian amount of time so my question is fairly vague
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does combustion actually take place with the exhaust valves open?
Yes.
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What is the theory behind antilag?
It allows you to build boost without drive train load... :P
LOL oh really?
I don't want to know the application of antilag, I want to know how it is able to build boost without load.
you add extra fuel and retard the ignition so you are essentially using the turbo as an extension of the combustion chamber.
good for spool
probably not so good on exhaust valves and turbos long term
Thanks! Exactly what I wanted to know!
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bastards!!
im about to be fucked by J-C
LOL yeah right you could email him telling on yourself everyday for the rest of your life and never hear back from him. Your safe dude.
Yet if you're sued by Hondata he sends the second or third largest contribution to your legal defense, then never responds to emails attempting to thank him.
Guys, don't help any n00bs with the cracked shit. You guys have it because you've been around for years, contribute to the scene, and I believe that 90% of you have paid for your copies as you state you have. n00bs need to pay their dues, and John deserves their money. He may be frustratingly hard to get ahold of sometimes but he's a good guy.
I gave up after over a year. Still have my old reg key, still don't have an updated key. For all I care, this dude can claim my spot on the crome list.
eCtune is DEFINATELY worth it. Nothing is more sexy than an e-cutout that opens by itself, based on ANY parameter you give it. :yes:
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ectune and neptune both get a :yes:
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Here's a question some of you may answer.
When a car is cold, ex. warming up, doesn't it run entirely off the low cam map and not touch the high cam? Until it's warm at least?
Or...
Don't you disable the VTEC coolant temp check so that it doesn't touch where you set the anti lag part on the map?
Am I making any sense?
And of course this is for a VTEC motor. f22 series.
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Here's a question some of you may answer.
When a car is cold, ex. warming up, doesn't it run entirely off the low cam map and not touch the high cam? Until it's warm at least?
Or...
Don't you disable the VTEC coolant temp check so that it doesn't touch where you set the anti lag part on the map?
Am I making any sense?
And of course this is for a VTEC motor. f22 series.
thats going to depend on who tuned it
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Don't you disable the VTEC coolant temp check so that it doesn't touch where you set the anti lag part on the map?
this
check the pics man
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ok
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SO how do you get the extra vtec features?
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magic
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Wtf??? lol
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Ok so me being the cheap ass that I am, Could I just solder a 22 ohm resistor (or one that falls somewhere somewhere between 14-30 ohm)at the end of the 1 wire vtec and ground it to the body instead of buying a vtec sol. and pluging it in and bolting it to a ground somewhere on my car? Or am I gona catch my car on fire or cook my ecu....lol
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Yes.
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Yes.
Yes to it working or yes to it catching my car on fire....lol
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The man said yes
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I would like to
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So Im a broke hoe, and I didnt feel like buying a vtec solenoid so, I went to radio crack, and got me 2 10ohm 10 watt and wired them in series and then wired it to the vtec wire coming off of my conversion harnes then I grounded it. The ecu normaly looks for 14-30 ohms. So with 2 10ohm wired up you end up with 20ohm. So the ecu will not throw a code 21 because it thinks that the solenoid is there.
At this point you are gona open Crome Free and import/export your shit into a p30 map, and set up and select all your settings you want. At this point you go into "plugins" and you are going to selct "enhancements" and at the very bottom of the box select "VTP+VTS Remover" A pop up will come up and say "VTP and VTS Removed! You must now ground the VTP signal wire"
I did this and got 8lbs (thats what my WG spring is too). Now this is on my NON Vtec b18a1. So I havent taken it out for a drive yet to see how it switches or if it switches maps or anything else yet but in my mind I dont see why it wouldent. I will mess with it some more here in a few days or weeks, or when ever I get time...lol
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Bitchen. So it worked? Must post videos!
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Bitchen. So it worked? Must post videos!
He just said he hasn't tried it yet
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I did this and got 8lbs (thats what my WG spring is too)....So I havent taken it out for a drive yet to see how it switches or if it switches...
Bitchen. So it worked? Must post videos!
He just said he hasn't tried it yet
Reading owns you!
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Yes it dose work, Its loud as fuck too barking out of the 3" exhaust and open wg dump tube too. I just havent taken it for a spin. I will get some vids here in the next few days. I need to throw my 3 bar in, crank it to the nig nog setting and just street tune it.