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General Category => Fabrication => Topic started by: BenDover on March 11, 2010, 12:49:00 AM

Title: WTB TIG
Post by: BenDover on March 11, 2010, 12:49:00 AM
Thermal Arc any good?
I want one for the house/practice. Preferably 1 phase.

http://cgi.ebay.com/THERMAL-ARC-95S-STICK-WELDER-W1003202_W0QQitemZ350325844314QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI_Welders?hash=item51910c295a (http://cgi.ebay.com/THERMAL-ARC-95S-STICK-WELDER-W1003202_W0QQitemZ350325844314QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI_Welders?hash=item51910c295a)

Any other TIG welder for a decent price?
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: malichite on March 11, 2010, 01:04:20 AM
Talk to Buk (Jay)  He has a sweet miller for sale
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: BenDover on March 11, 2010, 01:07:21 AM
naw but ill buy yours  O0
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: malichite on March 11, 2010, 02:04:56 AM
$2500
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: NoPistons! on March 11, 2010, 02:11:27 AM
Thermal Arc any good?
I want one for the house/practice. Preferably 1 phase.

http://cgi.ebay.com/THERMAL-ARC-95S-STICK-WELDER-W1003202_W0QQitemZ350325844314QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI_Welders?hash=item51910c295a (http://cgi.ebay.com/THERMAL-ARC-95S-STICK-WELDER-W1003202_W0QQitemZ350325844314QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI_Welders?hash=item51910c295a)

Any other TIG welder for a decent price?

That's not a tig welder.
http://www.plasmametalcutter.com/product_info.php?cPath=24&products_id=34 (http://www.plasmametalcutter.com/product_info.php?cPath=24&products_id=34)

This is.  Cheap but it's going in my shop before the year is out right next to my refurbished hobart handler mig.  :D

I dont fuck with aluminum anyway and i'm a cheap bastard.  I wouldn't have a hmt account if i was baller.

Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: jay on March 11, 2010, 11:24:18 AM
RENT OR LEASE ONE!!!!!!

dont buy a used one unless its from a store with warranty

Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: jay on March 11, 2010, 11:24:57 AM
http://www.red-d-arc.com/ (http://www.red-d-arc.com/)
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: BenDover on March 11, 2010, 01:25:40 PM
Thermal Arc any good?
I want one for the house/practice. Preferably 1 phase.

http://cgi.ebay.com/THERMAL-ARC-95S-STICK-WELDER-W1003202_W0QQitemZ350325844314QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI_Welders?hash=item51910c295a (http://cgi.ebay.com/THERMAL-ARC-95S-STICK-WELDER-W1003202_W0QQitemZ350325844314QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI_Welders?hash=item51910c295a)

Any other TIG welder for a decent price?

That's not a tig welder.
http://www.plasmametalcutter.com/product_info.php?cPath=24&products_id=34 (http://www.plasmametalcutter.com/product_info.php?cPath=24&products_id=34)

This is.  Cheap but it's going in my shop before the year is out right next to my refurbished hobart handler mig.  :D

I dont fuck with aluminum anyway and i'm a cheap bastard.  I wouldn't have a hmt account if i was baller.





I was thinking about doing the engolid(sp?) stick to TIG conversion...but Im know the scratch start going to suck balls


Theres couple cheap MIGs on my local DClist but I rather buy a decent TIG.
That china TIG doesnt seem so bad...wasnt that guy a sponsor on OHMT?
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: buk9tp on March 11, 2010, 10:31:31 PM
Scratch start is easy. Don't be a bitch.
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: HiProfile on March 12, 2010, 03:15:04 AM
Scratch start is easy. Don't be a bitch.

Yeah, get 1-2 packs of HF Electrodes and practice starts with a few cfm's of airflow. An HF 1" belt sander will also come in handy for grinding the points.
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: NoPistons! on March 12, 2010, 06:06:36 AM
I cannot scratch start to save my life.


If it doesn't have a foot pedal i can't do it.

Yes, i suck.

It's probably because i'm  spoiled and got to learn with the pedal.  Scratch start pissed me the fuck off.  I'd always fuck up the tungsten and the arc would wander all over the damn place and i'd have to fuck with the machine.... I hated it.

Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: turbob16hatch on March 12, 2010, 12:41:59 PM
Scratch starting is easy. Takes some practice and the tungstun will never get dirty. You just have to be quick with it and stop taking your time.
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: NoPistons! on March 12, 2010, 04:55:33 PM
Skill that i lack.  On/off switch with modulation is what i like.  Throw in an auto darkening helmet and it's cake.

I'm lazy.  Just thought i'd throw that out there.
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: jay on March 13, 2010, 01:41:10 AM
im a retard and i managed to get some nice scratch starts... (for some reason arc start didnt always work)

just get a super fine point tungstern nice and sharp and when you touch and pull back your good to go..

what i did was i did like 3 or 4 fake starts then on the 4th or 5th touch id kick on the welder just before i touched..

so you get a hang of the touch..

touch pull touch pull touch pull touch pulll press the foot pedal touch pull..

prolly overkill.. but worked like a charm everytime...
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: malichite on March 13, 2010, 03:53:48 AM
im a retard and i managed to get some nice scratch starts... (for some reason arc start didnt always work)

just get a super fine point tungstern nice and sharp and when you touch and pull back your good to go..

what i did was i did like 3 or 4 fake starts then on the 4th or 5th touch id kick on the welder just before i touched..

so you get a hang of the touch..

touch pull touch pull touch pull touch pulll press the foot pedal touch pull..

prolly overkill.. but worked like a charm everytime...

Yeah, listen to him.  He knows good.  :-X
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: Joseph Davis on March 13, 2010, 10:37:26 AM
That china TIG doesnt seem so bad...wasnt that guy a sponsor on OHMT?

And banned from here within three posts.
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: civiceggturbo on March 16, 2010, 08:44:32 PM
powcon 300st  :yes:
no hf shocking your elbow when trying to weld....plus its capacitance discharge prevents you from scratch starting and it sounds bad ass
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: BenDover on April 06, 2010, 03:28:31 PM
Been looking around..just dont know which one to get

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=98233 (http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=98233)

about 300 with the 20% off coupon

or

http://cgi.ebay.com/THERMAL-ARC-95S-TIG-STICK-WELDER-W1003203_W0QQitemZ390096262349QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI_Welders?hash=item5ad38c94cd (http://cgi.ebay.com/THERMAL-ARC-95S-TIG-STICK-WELDER-W1003203_W0QQitemZ390096262349QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI_Welders?hash=item5ad38c94cd)

http://www.thermalarc95s.com/95S_Tech_Sheet.pdf (http://www.thermalarc95s.com/95S_Tech_Sheet.pdf)

Local selling BNIB for 275 retail 400ish

Just want it for exhaust work...possibly weld sch10?
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: j.h.christ on April 06, 2010, 03:48:00 PM
RENT OR LEASE ONE!!!!!!

dont buy a used one unless its from a store with warranty



i just had to quote this.
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: malichite on April 06, 2010, 04:02:16 PM
that new HF Tig looks pretty nice. I used the old red one for years and it worked great.  Like the fact that the gas fitting on the back now threads in.  Also having the read out is nice too (if it reads out something useful like amperage)  Old HF tig only had a dial that went from 1-10, not very helpful.  Over all was a great machine though.  As far as the Thermal arc I have never heard anything bad, but no experience with them myself.  Have to say the HF tig was the best tool I have ever bought from them to date.
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: malichite on April 06, 2010, 04:08:03 PM
Also if you get the HF tig, first thing you should do is take the torch to your local welding shop, get a gas lense for it.
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: BenDover on April 06, 2010, 04:12:04 PM
Theres a red HF tig? Didnt see one...guess it discontinued
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: malichite on April 06, 2010, 04:21:55 PM
Yup.  Used to be $200

(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thezcr.com%2Fgallery%2Fdata%2F500%2Fmedium%2F100_2125.JPG&hash=c23967e0e3139e13f2222030fb3fb0476fd3a263)

Original Torch
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Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: BenDover on April 08, 2010, 12:49:11 AM
Hhhmmm just found out the guy had the older version of the thermal arc 85

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Firepower-10-3077A-3-THERMAL-ARC-DRAGSTER-85_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem439c629d2eQQitemZ290386517294QQptZMotorsQ5fAutomotiveQ5fTools (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Firepower-10-3077A-3-THERMAL-ARC-DRAGSTER-85_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem439c629d2eQQitemZ290386517294QQptZMotorsQ5fAutomotiveQ5fTools)

Thinking about still getting it

BTW where can I buy cheaper filler so I can practice on scrap pipe
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: malichite on April 08, 2010, 01:00:45 AM
Filler is cheap already.  I'v heard of people using coat hangers but not really a huge savings.
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: BenDover on April 08, 2010, 01:06:48 AM
Yea I was thinking coat hangers too....people at the laundry mat sometimes throw a big bunch away :evil:

Malichite you got some pics of the stuff you welded with HF tig?
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: t_cel_t on April 08, 2010, 02:40:26 AM
dont use fucking coat hangers, that defeats the whole purpose. just check out craigslist, about 2 times a month some guy has a shitload of filler for super cheap.
if you cant wait, go to harbor freight and buy a spool of MIG wire, not fluxcore, and just straiten it out and use that. its about using purified metal, you dip a coat hanger in the weld pool and its probably going to explode into soot and flame like crazy.
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: BenDover on April 08, 2010, 02:55:40 AM
I remember beau was welding stuff for jeff with coat hangers O0
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: turbob16hatch on April 08, 2010, 03:43:01 AM
I remember beau was welding stuff for jeff with coat hangers O0

Yeah i spose i would use what i had laying around too if i needed something fixed and had no rod.

Just go buy some 1/16th rod it's dirt cheap for how little you need for most things. If you buy stainless rod and are a cheapass you can use it for anything.
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: d-rail on April 08, 2010, 05:23:32 AM
eville140 uses a thermal arc welder, it's pretty sweet especially for the price
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: malichite on April 08, 2010, 02:32:54 PM
All this was done on the HF tig

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Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: BenDover on April 09, 2010, 03:46:18 PM
That HF tig is a wall plug?...I found one but cant find no info on it
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: malichite on April 09, 2010, 03:47:24 PM
That HF tig is a wall plug?

220.  I ran it on a 40 amp circuit but probably didn't need that much.
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: BenDover on April 09, 2010, 03:52:49 PM
damn i dont have access to a 220v >:(...guess im get the thermal arc 85
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: malichite on April 09, 2010, 04:01:41 PM
Had mine wired straight into the panal for a while.   O0 O0
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: ApexSilver06MR on April 09, 2010, 04:43:35 PM
them right there iz some secsee welds for a cdm HF welder sir
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: turbob16hatch on April 09, 2010, 10:45:54 PM
I had the little thermal arc 85, worked very good for a starter tig.
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: civiceggturbo on April 10, 2010, 04:02:49 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/PowCon-300SS-Welder_W0QQitemZ110516905262QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI_Welders?hash=item19bb52252e (http://cgi.ebay.com/PowCon-300SS-Welder_W0QQitemZ110516905262QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI_Welders?hash=item19bb52252e)

see how much it goes for
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: BenDover on April 17, 2010, 03:40:57 PM
Been trying to find a tank for the welder...found bunch of oxy acetylene tanks.
Notice the valve on top is different..is there another add on adaptor?
Would the matheson gas fill it with argon?
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: SgtB on April 17, 2010, 09:14:28 PM
NO! Acetylene tanks have honeycomb and acetone in them. Oxygen maybe, but you have to ask first. Best bet is to buy the tank from the company your going to use. You swap it every refill, and you don't have to have it hydro-tested all the time.
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: BenDover on May 13, 2010, 04:45:36 PM
Been looking around for tanks...didnt have any luck
Might get one from ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/60-CF-WELDING-CYLINDER-tank-bottle-nitrogen-argon-mixes-/180496183753?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a066931c9 (http://cgi.ebay.com/60-CF-WELDING-CYLINDER-tank-bottle-nitrogen-argon-mixes-/180496183753?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a066931c9)

or

http://cgi.ebay.com/55cf-Welding-Tank-Cylinder-Bottle-Argon-Helium-Nitrogen-/200457576945?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eac33e1f1 (http://cgi.ebay.com/55cf-Welding-Tank-Cylinder-Bottle-Argon-Helium-Nitrogen-/200457576945?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eac33e1f1)
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: runsfromdacops on May 13, 2010, 05:20:22 PM
has any one on here used a everlast 250ex? it looks like a good welder and its 1600$new
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: BenDover on May 13, 2010, 07:09:39 PM
off topic what does GFI stand for?
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: CSaddict on May 13, 2010, 07:38:45 PM
Ground Fault Interupt.
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: Passenger on May 13, 2010, 08:14:47 PM
Gay Fags Inc.
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: hotrex on May 14, 2010, 10:36:56 PM
gfi stands for passenger is a porpusplugger

taintwich
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: runsfromdacops on May 18, 2010, 02:15:15 PM
off topic what does GFI stand for?


gay fab inc.
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: jabberwock on May 18, 2010, 03:04:24 PM
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Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: ratcityrex on May 18, 2010, 03:58:45 PM
off topic what does GFI stand for?


gay fab inc.

lol
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: runsfromdacops on May 20, 2010, 03:27:54 PM
it sarted as a inside joke but now most of the ppl that rack it have the fastest cars around here.lol

gfi>nigger rigging
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: narfdanarf on May 20, 2010, 04:06:18 PM
when my application gets approved I'll be rockin a GFI sticker...lol.
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: Joseph Davis on May 20, 2010, 06:18:06 PM
when my application gets approved I'll be rockin a GFI sticker...lol.

The large round one approves of you, it's just some formalities now.
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: runsfromdacops on May 20, 2010, 10:59:34 PM
you get thounmbs up from me, you jsut need that pos to drive and your set :yes:
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on May 20, 2010, 11:09:54 PM
Narftards story of his username made me lol so hard i almost fell out of my chair at the dyno day... The picture of sewell deepthroating a 12 inch softserve completed the job and it crumbled with authority...  Both JD and Sewll were laughing as hard as i was... at which point when i got up and pushed off my old ass coffee table in my room it too crumbled under the girth..


 O0
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: runsfromdacops on May 21, 2010, 01:03:43 AM
i neaver heard the story. do tell
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: narfdanarf on May 21, 2010, 01:05:34 AM
you get thounmbs up from me, you jsut need that pos to drive and your set :yes:

Took it for a drive around the block today with no bumper or hood, trying to test out the boost solenoid, but I couldn't get anywhere, roads were just too wet. Neighbors love the 2-step though  :noel:
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: runsfromdacops on May 21, 2010, 02:29:58 AM
sweet deal put some headlights in that bitch and lets go beat the shit out of it :evil:
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: Passenger on May 21, 2010, 10:19:55 AM
gfi stands for passenger is a porpusplugger

taintwich

Shouldn't you be taking care of the mail mans children?
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: Joseph Davis on May 21, 2010, 02:04:09 PM
gfi stands for passenger is a porpusplugger

taintwich

Shouldn't you be taking care of the mail mans children?

You can't prove they are both the mailman's.
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: runsfromdacops on May 21, 2010, 04:22:31 PM
harsh... :o
Title: Re: WTB TIG
Post by: Passenger on May 21, 2010, 07:54:20 PM
gfi stands for passenger is a porpusplugger

taintwich

Shouldn't you be taking care of the mail mans children?

You can't prove they are both the mailman's.

True, I stand corrected.