:::RHMT::: Real Home Made Turbo
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: d112crzy on March 23, 2010, 08:11:44 PM
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So I recommended a customer of mine to Matt, aka turbob16hatch for a custom turbo manifold.
The plan was $500+$50(or maybe it was $450+50, I don't recall atm) to chip in to buy an F22A motor and it would be done before March hit.
It's now well into March(its been 2 months now) and not a single progress pic has been sent. He originally said it would only take him 2-3 days to make the manifold after he got the flanges. The ONLY pic he has sent was one of a dirty engine that I couldn't even tell if it was an F22A.
He's been ignoring my phone calls and texts lately. He gets back to me eventually, but only gives me excuses about why he hasn't been able to go to his shop to work on the manifold. He promises pics of progress and never delivers. Just yesterday he finally got back to me and he said he'd have pics today. I've sent him a few texts today and haven't got a single reply.
On one instance, he told me he built someone else a manifold only because they had payed a lot for the work required.
If the manifold isn't shipped by this week then a paypal claim will be made.
Just letting everyone know Matt's business ethics.
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This sounds oddly familiar. Theres a word im looking for. I think its a persons name used to describe this sorta thing...
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File the claim now, worry about it later.
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You are correct.
I've dealt with, and met him. He made the shuttle stuff on the super cheap, and lagged on the timeframe. Seems like a great enough guy, with great craftsmanship, but the timeframes he gives always seem to be a problem. I think even his friend told me that about him, and I doubt Matt himself would disagree. I sent my greatest local race homie to him, he took his whole fucking car to Matt, and then the timeframe fell off. Well, we both have our stuff, and the product he makes is excellent, but his timeframes are always fucked, so yeah, he IS the new hotrex.
Just as with hotrex, you'll get what's eventually coming, but unlike hotrex, the product will be flawless. I think without this timeframe issue he'd really have something going for himself. If you need him off'd however, PM me.
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You are correct.
I've dealt with, and met him. He made the shuttle stuff on the super cheap, and lagged on the timeframe. Seems like a great enough guy, with great craftsmanship, but the timeframes he gives always seem to be a problem. I think even his friend told me that about him, and I doubt Matt himself would disagree. I sent my greatest local race homie to him, he took his whole fucking car to Matt, and then the timeframe fell off. Well, we both have our stuff, and the product he makes is excellent, but his timeframes are always fucked, so yeah, he IS the new hotrex.
Just as with hotrex, you'll get what's eventually coming, but unlike hotrex, the product will be flawless. I think without this timeframe issue he'd really have something going for himself. If you need him off'd however, PM me.
Everything I've seen and heard about him and his products agree with what you just said as well. Which is why I originally recommended him to my customer.
Some people have time frames and if he can't work within them, then he should say so. I'd really hate to see this go sour, as I think he's pretty cool asides from this BIG issue.
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He makes manifolds he is suppose to lag. This is 2nd nature for welders.
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Beau aka blacksi still does fab work he does all my cast welding for me.
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Who else thinks the claim should be files now instead of waiting?
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Might as well file it. He'll still have a month or so to respond right?
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Who else thinks the claim should be files now instead of waiting?
Sure. File it. Maybe that will be the spark under that ass that gets it done. Laggers only do it because they think they can get away with it. :-\
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Who else thinks the claim should be files now instead of waiting?
Sure. File it. Maybe that will be the spark under that ass that gets it done. Laggers only do it because they think they can get away with it. :-\
+1 You have nothing to lose, file it. It always either speeds them up, or speeds up you getting your money back.
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I think 6 weeks is a fair amount of time to wait for custom fab work after that its just being lag city. The guys work looks great and he seems to add some solid tech info but I would give him once more shot at sending some pics by tomorrow evening after that if nothing I would file the claim.
This is coming from someone who does port work/machine work so I know sometimes things get backed up but you have to stay on top of things. I have been sick for the last week like the 3rd time this year but Im still grinding away and running the lathe.
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I don't lag on my work. I just tell people if they can't wait they can get fucked.
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I don't lag on my work. I just tell people if they can't wait they can get fucked.
+1
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Well i will say i am bad at wait times. But my work doesn't suck and really i'm not making excuses here. I over shot the time line given and that is my fault. Theres no need for a claim as the manifold is done and at the machine shop. It will be sent out when i get it back like i told jose, but i understand that he wants to see it done.
jose you knew i had trouble finding a engine to mock up the f22 stuff, now i shouldn't have taken payment untill i was damn sure the guy had the engine. Again i failed to secure the engine before taking payment. So i went to a junk yard and bought a damn running f22a for $150 to get this done. that ate up a few weeks running around finding a engine. stupid but the truth.
there isn't much else other then it will be sent out this week, and thats about it.
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This is hotrex, verbatim. IP check?
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Despite the timing issues, I'll put my name on Matt to come through with what you requested, and with nothing but great product.
-My name, or a dead body in the street. :-\
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this is why i never take payment before im done with the job. because if people start getting pushy i send them to the back of the bus.
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this is why i never take payment before im done with the job. because if people start getting pushy i send them to the back of the bus.
+1
the problem is, if you've invested a lot of time into building something you won't be able to sell to anyone else and the buyer flakes because it took you too long to build, you are out some $. that happened with the s2000 intake manifold i built, that is now stolen.
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this is why i never take payment before im done with the job. because if people start getting pushy i send them to the back of the bus.
+1
the problem is, if you've invested a lot of time into building something you won't be able to sell to anyone else and the buyer flakes because it took you too long to build, you are out some $. that happened with the s2000 intake manifold i built, that is now stolen.
awful nice of those thieves to take care of that problem for you
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He makes manifolds he is suppose to lag. This is 2nd nature for welders.
TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i owe spiker a steak dinner due to my fab guy LAGGING like a mo fo
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ive had nothing but good dealings with matt.
hes a legit dude in my book.....
communication is a must if things start to fall off.
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communication is a must if things start to fall off.
This is pretty much the only problem. He doesn't communicate with me or the customer, I have to ask. Also..Matt wasn't really bugged until after a month. That's plenty of time to build a manifold, which he did, just not for me.
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Theres no need for a claim as the manifold is done and at the machine shop.
Proof please
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I'd also have no issues if he didn't keep telling me he was going to have pics for me on x day or that he would work on it x night and then never delivered.
I don't care if you're Tony Palo's or Chris Miller's fabricator. If you tell me my shit's going to be done at a certain time then get it done. If not, there are plenty of others that can and do get shit done in a timely manner.
I gave him business because I wanted to help out a fellow nog and he turns around and feeds me bullshit.
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welcome to my world..
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welcome to my world..
I completely know your world. Your lazy fabricator has had Alex's downpipe since December I think. A fucking downpipe.
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Theres no need for a claim as the manifold is done and at the machine shop.
Proof please
The proof will be the tracking number on the shipping tomorow.
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someone's taken shipping baron 101
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I don't lag on my work. I just tell people if they can't wait they can get fucked.
Dave sent a buddy of mine a mani and had it finished and shipped before he told me he could have it done by. Looks tits to.
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I don't lag on my work. I just tell people if they can't wait they can get fucked.
Dave sent a buddy of mine a mani and had it finished and shipped before he told me he could have it done by. Looks tits to.
I asked Dave for an H22 manifold once and he told me to get fucked. :'(
Actually, he just said "no," but coming from a warm, caring individual like Dave it amounts to the same thing.
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god damnit matt, don't make me drive my happy ass over to your shop and punch you in the dick. :noel:
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Matt = Genius at work
AKA
Elite fab skills
FAIL time managment/organization skills....
Reccomend: Scrip of some Adderall, small bag of Meth and/or responsible girlfriend to do it for you.
;)
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bump
update?
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I haven't heard a thing. I'll ask the buyer and see if he has.
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Customer hasn't heard a thing either.
I vote ban until this is resolved and he is to be banned from the classifieds. People like Hotrex, marcj and this guy shouldn't be allowed to conduct business on the internet.
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Some people just need a fire lit under their asses.
That guy from canada I dealt with didn't think I'd do a chargeback but he got fucking caught with his pants down when they okay'd a 100% chargeback in 3 days, which was literally hours after he sent me a partial refund & missing parts. I eventually had to give it back, but kept the remaining parts & half my money. Then I got a cheap mani w/o crack and now I'm golden, just took 4 months. It was cool to effectively be paid to buy a junk GSR manifold... ;D
I'm a strong believer in a 10-20% downpayment, then the remainder when it's finished. That makes projects move pretty quick.
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Said he would have tracking info yesterday, nice.
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I guess I'll throw in a bag of meth for downpayment whenever I pay someone to make my manifold...
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This is why I'll buy a mani from someone local...
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This is why I'll buy a mani from someone local...
Or CSaddict, fucking BAMF
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Ya him or Corey... Their in the next state over...
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I can not recommend Corey's manifold building. Sure, everything looks top notch and fits well, but it rode in a goddamn blue Mustang on it's way to the post office. Yuck.
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Im just gonna pick it up... :yes:
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He'll rub your manifold on his Mustang before you can get there.
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absolutley.
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SEE?? HE ADMITS IT! BAN!!!!
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i spelled it wrong which means i was lying.
JOKES ON YOU!!!!!
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I vote ban until this is resolved and he is to be banned from the classifieds. People like Hotrex, marcj and this guy shouldn't be allowed to conduct business on the internet.
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Some people just need a fire lit under their asses.
That guy from canada I dealt with didn't think I'd do a chargeback but he got fucking caught with his pants down when they okay'd a 100% chargeback in 3 days, which was literally hours after he sent me a partial refund & missing parts. I eventually had to give it back, but kept the remaining parts & half my money. Then I got a cheap mani w/o crack and now I'm golden, just took 4 months. It was cool to effectively be paid to buy a junk GSR manifold... ;D
I'm a strong believer in a 10-20% downpayment, then the remainder when it's finished. That makes projects move pretty quick.
Thats the problem most guys in this field cant work that way. Most barely can make rent these days. I would never take a 10 percent discount to port a head/manifold/machine work. We dont work knowing on the 15th the same check is coming and can balance around that.
If you have a solid rep and do custom work you should get paid atleast half up front. This isnt doing a timing belt if you get a 10 percent deposit for a custom setup your basically deeper in supplies if the guy bails. You now have 10+ hours of work and your behind even more.
For people who dont making a living doing custom work that concept might seem like it works. For those involved its suicide.
Why does everyone think people who own a business have tons of money. Not to mention if you can keep your bills paid in this field your fuckin lucky let alone hunting people down to pay the rest of a bill.
Conclusion:50 percent down is fair and no refunds if they change their mind since some how someones Grandma just died,they got a dui etc like thats the guy doing the one off works fault.
I get shit out fast and if someone offered me 10 percent of the total bill I would tell them to go fuck a donkey.
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yeah, 10% is like a slap in the face really. I offered Matt 50% first, but he wanted all of it, so I had the customer sent it. He was reluctant at first though, as anyone should be sending that amount of money to someone they've never heard of.
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Dave makes a pretty good manifold, I was going to trade some parts and cash for a manifold from Matt, good thing I didn't. Shane
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Customer called im today. Now he says the manifold will be shipped tomorrow.
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Customer called im today. Now he says the manifold will be shipped tomorrow.
someone's taken shipping baron 101
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Idk I've never had a problem with him and when I had to get work done by him,he had to chase me not the other way around
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Customer called im today. Now he says the manifold will be shipped tomorrow.
lol, how many times has that been said before.....
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Officially 2nd time actually. He has only promised the manifold would be done previously, never promised to ship it by a certain date until this thread came up.
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Still no tracking number. Finally got a pic though.
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Still no tracking number. Finally got a pic though.
Ok, i have been talking with the guy. what is your plan here?
I missed the deadline, it's getting shipped will be there friday, there's not much else to comment on.
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Still no tracking number. Finally got a pic though.
Ok, i have been talking with the guy. what is your plan here?
I missed the deadline, it's getting shipped will be there friday, there's not much else to comment on.
What the FUCK are you talking about?
this is rhmt
this will get milked for all its fucking worth till we are bored of it... and then.. and ONLY THEN will we think about letting it go.
faggot.
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Still no tracking number. Finally got a pic though.
Ok, i have been talking with the guy. what is your plan here?
I missed the deadline, it's getting shipped will be there friday, there's not much else to comment on.
The plan is to make sure you ship it. You've been lying out your ass on when it was getting shipped, you expect me to believe you're actually going to ship it still?
You missed several deadlines, some you set yourself. Don't act like it's no big deal. You're not the one that sent $500 to some unknown person and didn't hear shit for 2 months.
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Still no tracking number. Finally got a pic though.
Ok, i have been talking with the guy. what is your plan here?
I missed the deadline, it's getting shipped will be there friday, there's not much else to comment on.
The plan is to make sure you ship it. You've been lying out your ass on when it was getting shipped, you expect me to believe you're actually going to ship it still?
You missed several deadlines, some you set yourself. Don't act like it's no big deal. You're not the one that sent $500 to some unknown person and didn't hear shit for 2 months.
I never said it wasn't a big deal. I simply said there wasn't anything worth mentioning. as there isn't atm. I talked to the guy and told him what was going on.
I wouldn't say i'm unknown and i wouldn't say i never said anything for 2 months. Don't act as if i'm scamming someone, as thats what your coming off like. the manifold will be well worth the price even if it's not worth the wait/broken deadlines.
chill out, you have always been easily excited but chill a little bit. :?:
Who the hell says i'm not going to ship it? what is wrong with you? Have i ever not shipped a part/manifold? NO!!!! and i certainly don't plan on starting now. For some reason i am getting the feeling you think i stole the guys money and blew it on hookers and blow and just said fuck it. Not the case.
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Still no tracking number. Finally got a pic though.
Ok, i have been talking with the guy. what is your plan here?
I missed the deadline, it's getting shipped will be there friday, there's not much else to comment on.
What the FUCK are you talking about?
this is rhmt
this will get milked for all its fucking worth till we are bored of it... and then.. and ONLY THEN will we think about letting it go.
faggot.
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Still no tracking number. Finally got a pic though.
Ok, i have been talking with the guy. what is your plan here?
I missed the deadline, it's getting shipped will be there friday, there's not much else to comment on.
The plan is to make sure you ship it. You've been lying out your ass on when it was getting shipped, you expect me to believe you're actually going to ship it still?
You missed several deadlines, some you set yourself. Don't act like it's no big deal. You're not the one that sent $500 to some unknown person and didn't hear shit for 2 months.
I never said it wasn't a big deal. I simply said there wasn't anything worth mentioning. as there isn't atm. I talked to the guy and told him what was going on.
I wouldn't say i'm unknown and i wouldn't say i never said anything for 2 months. Don't act as if i'm scamming someone, as thats what your coming off like. the manifold will be well worth the price even if it's not worth the wait/broken deadlines.
chill out, you have always been easily excited but chill a little bit. :?:
Who the hell says i'm not going to ship it? what is wrong with you? Have i ever not shipped a part/manifold? NO!!!! and i certainly don't plan on starting now. For some reason i am getting the feeling you think i stole the guys money and blew it on hookers and blow and just said fuck it. Not the case.
So whats your definition of being scammed, and how long does it need to be to be officially scammed? 2 months is long enough for me. If it were up to me, the paypal claim would have been filed after the 1st month.
You've showed no proof of sending the manifold, you've lied multiple times about sending the manifold. I think the way I and the customer feel about this ordeal is justified.
Like I said, I don't care who you are and how good your products are. I'd never deal with a company that LIED about the product being made or when it was going to be shipped. If you can't do it or don't want to do it, then have the balls to say you can't and leave it at that. If you don't feel like getting the manifold done until 3 months later because you're lazy then say so at the time the money is being sent.
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Still no tracking number. Finally got a pic though.
Ok, i have been talking with the guy. what is your plan here?
I missed the deadline, it's getting shipped will be there friday, there's not much else to comment on.
The plan is to make sure you ship it. You've been lying out your ass on when it was getting shipped, you expect me to believe you're actually going to ship it still?
You missed several deadlines, some you set yourself. Don't act like it's no big deal. You're not the one that sent $500 to some unknown person and didn't hear shit for 2 months.
I never said it wasn't a big deal. I simply said there wasn't anything worth mentioning. as there isn't atm. I talked to the guy and told him what was going on.
I wouldn't say i'm unknown and i wouldn't say i never said anything for 2 months. Don't act as if i'm scamming someone, as thats what your coming off like. the manifold will be well worth the price even if it's not worth the wait/broken deadlines.
chill out, you have always been easily excited but chill a little bit. :?:
Who the hell says i'm not going to ship it? what is wrong with you? Have i ever not shipped a part/manifold? NO!!!! and i certainly don't plan on starting now. For some reason i am getting the feeling you think i stole the guys money and blew it on hookers and blow and just said fuck it. Not the case.
So whats your definition of being scammed, and how long does it need to be to be officially scammed? 2 months is long enough for me. If it were up to me, the paypal claim would have been filed after the 1st month.
You've showed no proof of sending the manifold, you've lied multiple times about sending the manifold. I think the way I and the customer feel about this ordeal is justified.
Like I said, I don't care who you are and how good your products are. I'd never deal with a company that LIED about the product being made or when it was going to be shipped. If you can't do it or don't want to do it, then have the balls to say you can't and leave it at that. If you don't feel like getting the manifold done until 3 months later because you're lazy then say so at the time the money is being sent.
how about you stop being ungrateful?
turbob16hatch if i were you i wouldnt send the manifold and its too late for them to file a paypal claim
just fucking with you :-*
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Go fuck a goat.
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Still no tracking number. Finally got a pic though.
Ok, i have been talking with the guy. what is your plan here?
I missed the deadline, it's getting shipped will be there friday, there's not much else to comment on.
The plan is to make sure you ship it. You've been lying out your ass on when it was getting shipped, you expect me to believe you're actually going to ship it still?
You missed several deadlines, some you set yourself. Don't act like it's no big deal. You're not the one that sent $500 to some unknown person and didn't hear shit for 2 months.
I never said it wasn't a big deal. I simply said there wasn't anything worth mentioning. as there isn't atm. I talked to the guy and told him what was going on.
I wouldn't say i'm unknown and i wouldn't say i never said anything for 2 months. Don't act as if i'm scamming someone, as thats what your coming off like. the manifold will be well worth the price even if it's not worth the wait/broken deadlines.
chill out, you have always been easily excited but chill a little bit. :?:
Who the hell says i'm not going to ship it? what is wrong with you? Have i ever not shipped a part/manifold? NO!!!! and i certainly don't plan on starting now. For some reason i am getting the feeling you think i stole the guys money and blew it on hookers and blow and just said fuck it. Not the case.
So whats your definition of being scammed, and how long does it need to be to be officially scammed? 2 months is long enough for me. If it were up to me, the paypal claim would have been filed after the 1st month.
You've showed no proof of sending the manifold, you've lied multiple times about sending the manifold. I think the way I and the customer feel about this ordeal is justified.
Like I said, I don't care who you are and how good your products are. I'd never deal with a company that LIED about the product being made or when it was going to be shipped. If you can't do it or don't want to do it, then have the balls to say you can't and leave it at that. If you don't feel like getting the manifold done until 3 months later because you're lazy then say so at the time the money is being sent.
how about you stop being ungrateful?
turbob16hatch if i were you i wouldnt send the manifold and its too late for them to file a paypal claim
just fucking with you :-*
This coming from the guy who bought TWO broken welders?
You also realize as long as the person paid with their credit card through paypal, they can file a claim through their credit card and paypal won't have a say in the matter? For some reason, people think Paypal actually carries weight. If you pay with a credit card, fuck paypal, contact your CC company and let them handle business.
Matt, just send the manifold and get these people off your back and restore your credibility. I don't know what's holding you up, but I'd just try to get it done and move on.
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Go fuck a goat.
i couldnt find one so i had to settle for your mom
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Still no tracking number. Finally got a pic though.
Ok, i have been talking with the guy. what is your plan here?
I missed the deadline, it's getting shipped will be there friday, there's not much else to comment on.
The plan is to make sure you ship it. You've been lying out your ass on when it was getting shipped, you expect me to believe you're actually going to ship it still?
You missed several deadlines, some you set yourself. Don't act like it's no big deal. You're not the one that sent $500 to some unknown person and didn't hear shit for 2 months.
I never said it wasn't a big deal. I simply said there wasn't anything worth mentioning. as there isn't atm. I talked to the guy and told him what was going on.
I wouldn't say i'm unknown and i wouldn't say i never said anything for 2 months. Don't act as if i'm scamming someone, as thats what your coming off like. the manifold will be well worth the price even if it's not worth the wait/broken deadlines.
chill out, you have always been easily excited but chill a little bit. :?:
Who the hell says i'm not going to ship it? what is wrong with you? Have i ever not shipped a part/manifold? NO!!!! and i certainly don't plan on starting now. For some reason i am getting the feeling you think i stole the guys money and blew it on hookers and blow and just said fuck it. Not the case.
So whats your definition of being scammed, and how long does it need to be to be officially scammed? 2 months is long enough for me. If it were up to me, the paypal claim would have been filed after the 1st month.
You've showed no proof of sending the manifold, you've lied multiple times about sending the manifold. I think the way I and the customer feel about this ordeal is justified.
Like I said, I don't care who you are and how good your products are. I'd never deal with a company that LIED about the product being made or when it was going to be shipped. If you can't do it or don't want to do it, then have the balls to say you can't and leave it at that. If you don't feel like getting the manifold done until 3 months later because you're lazy then say so at the time the money is being sent.
how about you stop being ungrateful?
turbob16hatch if i were you i wouldnt send the manifold and its too late for them to file a paypal claim
just fucking with you :-*
This coming from the guy who bought TWO broken welders?
You also realize as long as the person paid with their credit card through paypal, they can file a claim through their credit card and paypal won't have a say in the matter? For some reason, people think Paypal actually carries weight. If you pay with a credit card, fuck paypal, contact your CC company and let them handle business.
Matt, just send the manifold and get these people off your back and restore your credibility. I don't know what's holding you up, but I'd just try to get it done and move on.
getting money refunded by cc wont fix your paypal and then you wont have paypal anymore
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That's ok. You had JD's sloppy seconds.
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That's ok. You had JD's sloppy seconds.
actually jd had sloppy seconds.. your fat ass overpowered both of us and got in first i had to settle for turdy thirds
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Still no tracking number. Finally got a pic though.
Ok, i have been talking with the guy. what is your plan here?
I missed the deadline, it's getting shipped will be there friday, there's not much else to comment on.
The plan is to make sure you ship it. You've been lying out your ass on when it was getting shipped, you expect me to believe you're actually going to ship it still?
You missed several deadlines, some you set yourself. Don't act like it's no big deal. You're not the one that sent $500 to some unknown person and didn't hear shit for 2 months.
I never said it wasn't a big deal. I simply said there wasn't anything worth mentioning. as there isn't atm. I talked to the guy and told him what was going on.
I wouldn't say i'm unknown and i wouldn't say i never said anything for 2 months. Don't act as if i'm scamming someone, as thats what your coming off like. the manifold will be well worth the price even if it's not worth the wait/broken deadlines.
chill out, you have always been easily excited but chill a little bit. :?:
Who the hell says i'm not going to ship it? what is wrong with you? Have i ever not shipped a part/manifold? NO!!!! and i certainly don't plan on starting now. For some reason i am getting the feeling you think i stole the guys money and blew it on hookers and blow and just said fuck it. Not the case.
So whats your definition of being scammed, and how long does it need to be to be officially scammed? 2 months is long enough for me. If it were up to me, the paypal claim would have been filed after the 1st month.
You've showed no proof of sending the manifold, you've lied multiple times about sending the manifold. I think the way I and the customer feel about this ordeal is justified.
Like I said, I don't care who you are and how good your products are. I'd never deal with a company that LIED about the product being made or when it was going to be shipped. If you can't do it or don't want to do it, then have the balls to say you can't and leave it at that. If you don't feel like getting the manifold done until 3 months later because you're lazy then say so at the time the money is being sent.
how about you stop being ungrateful?
turbob16hatch if i were you i wouldnt send the manifold and its too late for them to file a paypal claim
just fucking with you :-*
This coming from the guy who bought TWO broken welders?
You also realize as long as the person paid with their credit card through paypal, they can file a claim through their credit card and paypal won't have a say in the matter? For some reason, people think Paypal actually carries weight. If you pay with a credit card, fuck paypal, contact your CC company and let them handle business.
Matt, just send the manifold and get these people off your back and restore your credibility. I don't know what's holding you up, but I'd just try to get it done and move on.
Thats the plan.
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Who the hell says i'm not going to ship it?
March 24th....6 days ago
The proof will be the tracking number on the shipping tomorow.
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BUMP!!!!11
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It's Friday. We'll see if he gets the manifold. But its already 5:40pm pacific time and the customer is 3 hours ahead which makes it 8:40 meaning the UPS truck had to pass by already if it indeed was supposed to get delivered today.
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chill out, you have always been easily excited but chill a little bit. :?:
Matt, I completely see where you are coming from, but at the same time I think it's entirely to Joser's credit that he's loyal to his customer. Which is exactly why he sent the guy to you in the first place for top notch work, which is obvious in any one of your Fab or FS forum posts. Take his criticism as well intentioned, and as a backhanded compliment that he chose your product to become embroiled in this conflict over.
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Ship it out already and get everyone off your back.
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This guy is a fucking tool. No manifold is worth being lied to by some unorganized faggot for two months straight. I've seen his work on the shuttle... nothing special. I would have filed the claim long ago and talked with someone who doesn't thrive off of lying to customers and making empty promises.
Banhammer Wednesday.
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still nothing.
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He's posting on the site but avoids this thread ???
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(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.encyclopediadramatica.com%2Fimages%2Fthumb%2F9%2F9e%2FBanstick_lg.jpg%2F300px-Banstick_lg.jpg&hash=59f9ec8050363448838555b744c73108cd9efb08)
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messaged him last night and he said he's going to only talk to the customer directly from now on. Funny, he first told me he'd rather deal with me because he hated dealing with customers directly before the deal even went through.
But he called the customer yesterday and pretty much told him a lot of nothing. Told him the manifold was done and that's pretty much it.
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should have gone with buk fab
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should have gone with buk fab
exactly! the manifold still wouldnt be done because youd be trying to buy your 15th broken welder.
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at least you provide constant updates.
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But he called the customer yesterday and pretty much told him a lot of nothing. Told him the manifold was done and that's pretty much it.
Sounds exactly like cc-fab
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This is hotrex, verbatim. IP check?
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He's posting on the site but avoids this thread ???
Not avoiding this thread. It's easter weekend and i was spending time with my dad. theres nothing to update this thread with. :-\
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messaged him last night and he said he's going to only talk to the customer directly from now on. Funny, he first told me he'd rather deal with me because he hated dealing with customers directly before the deal even went through.
But he called the customer yesterday and pretty much told him a lot of nothing. Told him the manifold was done and that's pretty much it.
What else is there to tell him, it's the weekend? I can't ship a manifold on sat/sun. your just hell bent on telling everyone anything i ever told you about. And well out of context is the best way to do so.
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Family comes 2nd sorry to tell you that. This is the modern world not the world our parents grew up in. Holidays mean nothing anymore. You have to get shit done and if your family doesnt get that they suck. They lived in a fantasy world of overpaid labor and sweet retirements so we would be fucked.
I gladly tell anyone over 50 they failed my generation with their laziness and greed.
Im working all weekend to get orders out. My easter dinner is marlboro lights,colt 45 and sweet and sour pork. Desert is black velvet whiskey and pepsi one since I feel fancy.
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Matt you can not weld, your manifolds look like shit, Dave got you beat in welding, You called me a noob in a pm , funny shit, get the fuck outta here, sling your trash on honda notech, ................... Shane
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Matt you can not weld, your manifolds look like shit, Dave got you beat in welding, You called me a noob in a pm , funny shit, get the fuck outta here, sling your trash on honda notech, ................... Shane
What????? lulz
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lulz on your welding,,,, good luck selling your shit on here,,,,,,,,,, LOL ,,,, you can not weld for shit that is some funny shit,,, noob,,,,,,
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messaged him last night and he said he's going to only talk to the customer directly from now on. Funny, he first told me he'd rather deal with me because he hated dealing with customers directly before the deal even went through.
But he called the customer yesterday and pretty much told him a lot of nothing. Told him the manifold was done and that's pretty much it.
What else is there to tell him, it's the weekend? I can't ship a manifold on sat/sun. your just hell bent on telling everyone anything i ever told you about. And well out of context is the best way to do so.
Whats out of context? I simply want everyone to see how much of a worthless person you really are. You KEEP lying about when the manifold is being finished and shipped. Why couldn't you ship it Friday? Or the time before that.
And what, you've never heard of Fedex or UPS? They're open on Saturdays. I know, I shipped a package yesterday.
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I'm honestly disturbed the none of the mods have anything about this. How long does are you guys going to give him a chance for?
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One of the admins should give turbo16hatch a custom title. Something like: "I am the new CC-FAB" :D
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Today is April 5
The proof will be the tracking number on the shipping tomorow.
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Today is April 5
The proof will be the tracking number on the shipping tomorow.
Blues Brothers - not my fault (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TuLBa-rgBk#)
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Buk might actually learn to weld before this guys ships Jew
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I'm honestly disturbed the none of the mods have anything about this. How long does are you guys going to give him a chance for?
Since I got demoted to Global mod instead of admin, I don't have the power to ban him, but if I did, that would only mean this thread wouldn't exist, and it would only take longer. Public pressure on a guy who needs to build a customer base can be a good thing, if he knows what's good for him.
Matt made the shuttle setup, and I think it was top notch, at 1/10th of the cost. He hooked me up for sure, but really Matt, what's the fucken deal, and how am I as someone hooked up in order to get your name out, supposed to do it with this kind of shit?
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im appalled that im even being brought up in this petty theft case. noone could even come close to the magnitude of my operations. hotrex is an enterprise. hotrex is the inventor of shipping 102. hotrex fucked shannon lamaster because he was hotrex.
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hahahahahaha lol x1650034
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im appalled that im even being brought up in this petty theft case. noone could even come close to the magnitude of my operations. hotrex is an enterprise. hotrex is the inventor of shipping 102. hotrex fucked shannon lamaster because he was hotrex.
lmao
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Agreed, it would take years of dishonest dealings to compete with the Hotrex legacy.
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im appalled that im even being brought up in this petty theft case. noone could even come close to the magnitude of my operations. hotrex is an enterprise. hotrex is the inventor of shipping 102. hotrex fucked shannon lamaster because he was hotrex.
lmao
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Hotrex was OG before there were black people.
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Agreed, it would take years of dishonest dealings to compete with the Hotrex legacy.
at the VERY LEAST.
i figure it would take a fair bitmore than that. if you sit down and try to comprehend the greatness of my achievement u cant. from selling teequAN cam gears with anti slippage techology on ebay for 310 dollars to having the florida district attourny blowin up my moms phone to having kids rollin by my house slow to owing 8500 to paypal to fucking fellow boardmembers wives because they dig flagrant scammage to deliberately making yuriys log as shitty as possible 2 hrs before we left for top fucking dollar to smoking cartons of cigs with noel santese. fuck i teebagged stealthmode and shared a chew with jeff frank,. those are the types of things that go on when your as upstanding as myself. top it u cant. hotrex is interweb infamous. ive pissed on more people worldwide than any other single individual short of bernie madoff. hotrex is a household name
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they sell spray to repell him
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at least your honest Josh :?:
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hotrex lines his pockets with perspective buys tears.
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and 14 year olds semen... hahhaahahhaah
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He said he'd ship it out yesterday. Doubt it happened.
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He said he'd ship it out yesterday. Doubt it happened.
this is getting out of hand. time for someone to go knock on his door.
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im gonna knock on joshes kids back door
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Its been too long for the bank or paypal to do anything. So now it seems like he's screwing my customer over.
I'll give $50 of my own money to whomever goes to his house and gets the manifold and ships it. $50 more if you fuck him up and show proof.
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Its been too long for the bank or paypal to do anything. So now it seems like he's screwing my customer over.
I'll give $50 of my own money to whomever goes to his house and gets the manifold and ships it. $50 more if you fuck him up and show proof.
ill give you 4 seconds to shut the fuck up you poonjab nigrolacer
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And I give you 1 second to shut the fuck up you good for nothing piece of shit. Your only ounce of worth is online as a no good fucking welder, roid popping, herpes infested pig looking piece of wasted matter. How bout you shut the fuck up and stop meddling where you have no fucking business.
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Agreed, it would take years of dishonest dealings to compete with the Hotrex legacy.
at the VERY LEAST.
i figure it would take a fair bitmore than that. if you sit down and try to comprehend the greatness of my achievement u cant. from selling teequAN cam gears with anti slippage techology on ebay for 310 dollars to having the florida district attourny blowin up my moms phone to having kids rollin by my house slow to owing 8500 to paypal to fucking fellow boardmembers wives because they dig flagrant scammage to deliberately making yuriys log as shitty as possible 2 hrs before we left for top fucking dollar to smoking cartons of cigs with noel santese. fuck i teebagged stealthmode and shared a chew with jeff frank,. those are the types of things that go on when your as upstanding as myself. top it u cant. hotrex is interweb infamous. ive pissed on more people worldwide than any other single individual short of bernie madoff. hotrex is a household name
lack of punctuation pissed me off but the content was top-notch
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Its been too long for the bank or paypal to do anything. So now it seems like he's screwing my customer over.
I'll give $50 of my own money to whomever goes to his house and gets the manifold and ships it. $50 more if you fuck him up and show proof.
Grow up. :?:
He will get the manifold and it will work just fine.
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Its been too long for the bank or paypal to do anything. So now it seems like he's screwing my customer over.
I'll give $50 of my own money to whomever goes to his house and gets the manifold and ships it. $50 more if you fuck him up and show proof.
Grow up. :?:
He will get the manifold and it will work just fine.
When?
And are YOU really telling me to grow up? How about you become responsible adult and send the product you were supposed to make a month ago.
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Its been too long for the bank or paypal to do anything. So now it seems like he's screwing my customer over.
I'll give $50 of my own money to whomever goes to his house and gets the manifold and ships it. $50 more if you fuck him up and show proof.
Grow up. :?:
He will get the manifold and it will work just fine.
When?
And are YOU really telling me to grow up? How about you become responsible adult and send the product you were supposed to make a month ago.
Yes i am. Who would beat someone up over something being made late? Your some E-thug.
Yes i will ship it.
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ship him his fucking shit already faggot... Youre now proving youre a pile of shit.
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ship him his fucking shit already faggot... Youre now proving youre a pile of shit.
+1
Something being made late is one thing.. being a complete piece of shit is another.
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Its been too long for the bank or paypal to do anything. So now it seems like he's screwing my customer over.
I'll give $50 of my own money to whomever goes to his house and gets the manifold and ships it. $50 more if you fuck him up and show proof.
Grow up. :?:
He will get the manifold and it will work just fine.
When?
And are YOU really telling me to grow up? How about you become responsible adult and send the product you were supposed to make a month ago.
Yes i am. Who would beat someone up over something being made late? Your some E-thug.
Yes i will ship it.
A normal person that gives a shit, that's who. And WHEN?
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And WHEN?
"tomorrow"
LMAO
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I wouldn't do anything else until the manifold was on a Fedex truck just to shut you guys up...
But I'm weird like that.
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Grow up. :?:
Hello pot, meet kettle
How about you man up and do what you were paid to do
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And WHEN?
"yesterday"
LMAO
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speaking of worthless fucking shitbags
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STFU :'(
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STFU :'(
Spiker really makes you cry?
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only on the inside LOL ::) nah I meant to hit the nigger button
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thank god not even the trollmastersnitchniggerdeluxe himself has a chance in hell of making 1500 posts at LEAST until the NW vs EC PINKS match :noel:
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OK? I suppose you had something to do with my post count reset...FATNIGGERDELUX O0
:D
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Snitchy Snitchy Snitchy Snitchy Snitchy Snitchy Snitchy Snitchy Snitchy
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OK? I suppose you had something to do with my post count reset...FATNIGGERDELUX O0
:D
Nope. I simply reaped in the rewards.
You did it to yourself.
You think you know, but you have no idea.....
Snitchy Snitchy Snitchy Snitchy Snitchy Snitchy Snitchy Snitchy Snitchy
Thizzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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between snitchy and no shippy there is a LOT of faggery in this thread
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Manifold probably isn't even started yet.
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Manifold probably isn't even started yet.
except it's DONE.
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Manifold probably isn't even started yet.
except it's DONE.
Pics?
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Manifold probably isn't even started yet.
except it's DONE.
Pics?
there on my phone. i will post them when i get back.
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Tracking or STFU
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Tracking or STFU
brick.
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Tracking or STFU
I want your sex
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Manifold probably isn't even started yet.
yeah..
Reading through this post he is saying the same shit and acting like a fucking retard just like i was when i hadn't even started anything. Hes full of shit., there is no reason he wouldn't have shipped it by now.
Grow up, its the best thing that will happen to you. Atleast I can learn from my mistakes.
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Tracking or STFU
brick.
ALL DAY ERRY DAY son
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Manifold probably isn't even started yet.
except it's DONE.
Bullshit
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except i've already spent the money and am kinda fucked right now
fixed
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except i've already spent the money and am kinda fucked right now
fixed
Haha, I've been trying to figure out what possible reason there is for it taking so long to ship... I don't have a car, live in the middle of fucking nowhere, don't have a job, and still get my shit shipped out within a few days tops, usually 1-2 days.
turbob16hatch are you broke and need some shipping money?
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It's been shipped.
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I'm sure it has, just like the last 20 times.
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well he can post that he has the tracking number. i'm not going to post that in here just for you guys. :?:
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well he can post that he has the tracking number. i'm not going to post that in here just for you guys. :?:
and no one here is going to buy anything from you again, sounds like a fair trade
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well he can post that he has the tracking number. i'm not going to post that in here just for you guys. :?:
and no one here is going to buy anything from you again, sounds like a fair trade
Pretty much.
And buyer confirmed he has a tracking number. Let's hope its for the manifold.
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what is this that i hear that matt is doing log manifolds for $100 shipped to redeem himself?
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let me guess, tracking number says "generated waiting for pickup" lol
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let me guess, tracking number says "generated waiting for pickup" lol
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
i think that's the voice of experience i hear?
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well he can post that he has the tracking number. i'm not going to post that in here just for you guys. :?:
and no one here is going to buy anything from you again, sounds like a fair trade
Pretty much.
And buyer confirmed he has a tracking number. Let's hope its for the manifold.
WTF else would i ship him? you guys are retarded some times. If you don't want to buy from me then fine. seriously not going to make me lose sleep.
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well he can post that he has the tracking number. i'm not going to post that in here just for you guys. :?:
and no one here is going to buy anything from you again, sounds like a fair trade
Pretty much.
And buyer confirmed he has a tracking number. Let's hope its for the manifold.
WTF else would i ship him? you guys are retarded some times. If you don't want to buy from me then fine. seriously not going to make me lose sleep.
Don't get all fucking sassy, your the fucktard that lied and took forever. You could be faking it yet again with a fucked tracking number, it happens all the time cock knocker. I can go print out a shipping label right now and not ship shit out and have a tracking number that is live.
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what is this that i hear that matt is doing log manifolds for $100 shipped to redeem himself?
This! :yes:
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Well your right guys, i'm scamming him. As you can see here i never actually made a manifold. :?:
(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi71.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fi123%2Fmattgroshong%2FF22amanifold001.jpg&hash=8063811ca39b29e688f1aaf65b287ff5dde3091f)
(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi71.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fi123%2Fmattgroshong%2FF22amanifold002.jpg&hash=b28673a99d2a6bc77dfec1be32d3cdac95bc45e7)
(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi71.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fi123%2Fmattgroshong%2FF22amanifold003.jpg&hash=b1c62a78d3d251c35509a02eaa8480698f33339d)
Oh and theres that block that d112crzy couldn't tell was a F22a..... :?:
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2 months later, i guess you put us all in our place :?:
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Well your right guys, i'm scamming him. As you can see here i never actually made a manifold. :?:
(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi71.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fi123%2Fmattgroshong%2FF22amanifold001.jpg&hash=8063811ca39b29e688f1aaf65b287ff5dde3091f)
(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi71.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fi123%2Fmattgroshong%2FF22amanifold002.jpg&hash=b28673a99d2a6bc77dfec1be32d3cdac95bc45e7)
(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi71.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fi123%2Fmattgroshong%2FF22amanifold003.jpg&hash=b1c62a78d3d251c35509a02eaa8480698f33339d)
Oh and theres that block that d112crzy couldn't tell was a F22a..... :?:
Yeah, my bad for not being able to tell what motor was in a phone pic.
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How much for a B-series mani like that for a CRX O0
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2 months later, i guess you put us all in our place :?:
No i never said i wasn't late. Just annoyed people say i'm scamming someone when clearly the manifold exists. If your going to hate me hate me for being late. Not for some made up drama shit from d112.
I'm not trying to put anyone in there place. But you guys are so damn funny sometimes. Acting like i fucking took his money and never did shit. I'm not making excuses for being late but i just find it funny as theres not ONE f22a manifold from any manifold maker besides custom one off work.
and everyone acts as if they could have got it in a week from fullrace of some shit.
d112- but next time don't act like a 5 yr old trying to make me look like a scammer by making things up. You know for a fact it was a f22. what other honda engine has the alternator on the front and is sohc that isn't f22. come on now.
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How much for a B-series mani like that for a CRX O0
don't buy from me i'm a scammer. everyone said so, it must be true.
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How much for a B-series mani like that for a CRX O0
don't buy from me i'm a scammer. everyone said so, it must be true.
well, alright don't take my money :( I just figured I'd over it 2 months in advance :P
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f22b1/2, f23a1/5. You asked me several times which motor it was you were building the manifold for, and I explained each time which one you needed. This made me believe you didn't know which motor you were looking for and didn't know if you were competent enough to understand the differences between all those.
And I didn't make anything up. I speculated, which is all I could do since you provided absolutely no proof of you even building it. You did make up lie after lie, what do you expect me to do? Believe your lies?
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f22b1/2, f23a1/5. You asked me several times which motor it was you were building the manifold for, and I explained each time which one you needed. This made me believe you didn't know which motor you were looking for and didn't know if you were competent enough to understand the differences between all those.
And I didn't make anything up. I speculated, which is all I could do since you provided absolutely no proof of you even building it. You did make up lie after lie, what do you expect me to do? Believe your lies?
NO i asked if i could use other engines to biuld it. because i couldn't find an f22a just an f22b. you knew i was having a hard time finding a damn f22a. then i finally found one in at a guys shop/junkyard that parts cars.
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Yippee, it appears shipped.
Some people aren't sure if they're supposed to act like a buyer or a seller it seems. Sellers wear collared shirts to present themselves, and buyers wear whatever the fuck they want as long as they have the funds. You can't wear a swim shorts and flip flops attitude while being the seller.
I'm locking this pile of shit thread. If the manifold should appear to not arrive, feel free to make a new post.