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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Jorsher on October 18, 2011, 01:34:40 AM
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About those protests (http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2011/10/occupy-wall-street-spreads-worldwide/100171/)...
At their current state, I don't see anything coming out of them. Think they will escalate to something a little more exciting?
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absolutely insane
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seriously?
that row of pigs on bikes push em all down lol
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black guy slayer shirt
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I don't understand any of your responses, and I don't feel I've drank enough to be this confused.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZcJ31g0ScQ
1:40 is where the fun begins. Maybe it was warranted, but I'm having a hard time thinking of a good reason.
Don't quite agree with all the people there. Upset that you can't pay the student loans you took out? I'm open to some justification, but sounds like a personal problem. Overall, corporations/government has been fucking the general public for a looooooooong time. I've always thought the disparity between the rich and poor is bound to increase in a capitalist economy, but it's never seemed sustainable... The rich crowd shrinks as the poor crowd grows, and there is power in numbers.
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We don't live in a capitalist system.
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I don't understand any of your responses, and I don't feel I've drank enough to be this confused.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZcJ31g0ScQ
1:40 is where the fun begins. Maybe it was warranted, but I'm having a hard time thinking of a good reason.
Don't quite agree with all the people there. Upset that you can't pay the student loans you took out? I'm open to some justification, but sounds like a personal problem. Overall, corporations/government has been fucking the general public for a looooooooong time. I've always thought the disparity between the rich and poor is bound to increase in a capitalist economy, but it's never seemed sustainable... The rich crowd shrinks as the poor crowd grows, and there is power in numbers.
The student loan shit is kind of sketch. You can't totally blame a lot of students for taking out more loans that they can pay back. Not everyone is intelligent enough to realize that the colleges are lying to them. Lately, most colleges have been targeting inner city poor under the guise of diversity. When i first started college there were almost no inner city kids and by the time I left almost all of the gen eds were filled with completely ghetto motherfuckers because the school was recruiting in poor, ghetto areas. Filling out FAFSA for people who aren't intelligent enough to do it themselves and telling these kids to take out massive loans to stay on campus, promising them that when they'll get out they'll all have high paying jobs and the 40-80 grand they go in debt is totally worth it. Most people believe it. They're told by their parents that a college education is important, other older people that they look up to and admire say the same things. They see people with college degrees who make good money and have a decent career, but I mean you can't even really gauge the situation until you're out of college and applying for jobs.
I obviously didn't expect to make any money with my philosophy degree, so don't try to reverse this shit on my experience with a HURR DURR IM AN ENGINEER AND IF EVERYONE WAS AN ENGINEER WE WOULD ALL BE LIVING IN A PERFECT WORLD OF ENGINEERS CAUSE EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE ENGINEERD BY AN ENGINEER CAUSE OTHER PEOPLE DONT KNOW HOW TO MAKE STUFF LOL AND IF YOUR NOT AN ENGINEER YOU'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO MAKE STUFF EVER CAUSE UR DUMB AND IF UR SMART YOUD BE AN ENGINEER CAUS YOU OBVIOUSLY MAKE MORE MONEY AND THAT IS ALL THAT IS IMPORTANT CAUSE IF YOU HAVE MONEY THEN YOU CAN BUY STUFF LOL.
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If people received a fair amount while holding a decent job, they COULD pay off student loans quite easily. I don't advocating socialism, just fair pay.
5% of the population actually does hold 95% of USA's wealth. Not money, wealth. This type of system is indeed not sustainable as the average education level increases decade by decade, and the internet as a means of free speech makes it even less sustainable. I can see a few millionaires, but not billionaires.
I hope some day a couple of pissed-off snipers who got screwed over by the insanely wealthy go on a stealthy rampage.
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It's easy to pay off student loans. First step: Go to a public university in your state. Don't go to a fucking private or worse.. out of state public. It's just dumb. Dumb dumb dumb. Second step: Apply for grants. If you're applying to an in state public you will qualify for something. If you don't your folks are in decent shape and are expected to help. My parents are poor. Therefore, I got VA grants and scholarships for not being a dumbass. Because of my choice to pick an in state public university my shit is paid for (one way or another).
Cliffs: Fuck you, don't be stupid, you get what you deserve you hipster fags. Why demand more socialism when the socialism that is already there can help you if you aren't a total dumbass?
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these people are fucking retarded. it's not rocket surgery. the same 500ish people have made it possible for our economy to be driven into the shitter. these "evil" corporations are out to turn a profit, just as you or i would. to expect them to have a crisis of conscience when they're not even doing anything illegal is ridiculous.
i took a walk last week in westlake where occupy seattle was, and it's obvious that these idiots made terrible financial decisions, loans, houses, etc.i talked to probably a dozen individuals, and not ONE of them knew what glass-steagall is, what a credit default swap was, what a CDO was, or what role government played in the whole deal. to these people, corporations are responsible for the collapse.
no, it isn't fair that the banks get bailed out, but LOOK AT WHO BAILED THEM OUT, YOU FUCKING DIPSHITS. THE SAME RETARDS YOU INVALIDS ELECTED (again). the "99%" are fucking worthless shitbags who can't understand that paying a HALF MILLION DOLLARS ON A GODDAMNED ARM LOAN for a house that cost 180K 3 years ago is financial suicide and previously racked up 100K in student loans for liberal arts degrees can go kick rocks.
this couldn't have happened without the consent, passive or otherwise of the "99%". they signed on the dotted line, probably without reading the fine print. fine with me, but get the fuck out of my parks, and either go work at labor ready and live within your means, or eat a bullet and save some oxygen for the rest of us.
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I don't have a ton out in student loans so far, and it still kills me to have that monkey on my back already.
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fucking hippies.
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" no man........You gotta have a tent to get sex......."
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I was no good after the howard stern clip, man my generation sucks
If your not making enough money, work more/become skilled at what you do
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fuck yes
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The student loan shit is kind of sketch. You can't totally blame a lot of students for taking out more loans that they can pay back. Not everyone is intelligent enough to realize that the colleges are lying to them. Lately, most colleges have been targeting inner city poor under the guise of diversity. When i first started college there were almost no inner city kids and by the time I left almost all of the gen eds were filled with completely ghetto motherfuckers because the school was recruiting in poor, ghetto areas. Filling out FAFSA for people who aren't intelligent enough to do it themselves and telling these kids to take out massive loans to stay on campus, promising them that when they'll get out they'll all have high paying jobs and the 40-80 grand they go in debt is totally worth it. Most people believe it. They're told by their parents that a college education is important, other older people that they look up to and admire say the same things. They see people with college degrees who make good money and have a decent career, but I mean you can't even really gauge the situation until you're out of college and applying for jobs.
I know what you mean but haven't thought of it in this situation... I've wanted to tell a ton of people that are pursuing whatever ridiculous degree at whatever college they saw advertising (ie DeVry, Phoenix, etc) that they're wasting their time and money, but I hate crushing dreams. Usually I'd say "fuck 'em," but it is preying on the weak which is totally shitty, bro. Nothing different than liquor stores, fast food, cash advance, title loan, and military recruitment being more prevalent in low-income areas.
these people are fucking retarded. it's not rocket surgery. the same 500ish people have made it possible for our economy to be driven into the shitter. these "evil" corporations are out to turn a profit, just as you or i would. to expect them to have a crisis of conscience when they're not even doing anything illegal is ridiculous.
i took a walk last week in westlake where occupy seattle was, and it's obvious that these idiots made terrible financial decisions, loans, houses, etc.i talked to probably a dozen individuals, and not ONE of them knew what glass-steagall is, what a credit default swap was, what a CDO was, or what role government played in the whole deal. to these people, corporations are responsible for the collapse.
no, it isn't fair that the banks get bailed out, but LOOK AT WHO BAILED THEM OUT, YOU FUCKING DIPSHITS. THE SAME RETARDS YOU INVALIDS ELECTED (again). the "99%" are fucking worthless shitbags who can't understand that paying a HALF MILLION DOLLARS ON A GODDAMNED ARM LOAN for a house that cost 180K 3 years ago is financial suicide and previously racked up 100K in student loans for liberal arts degrees can go kick rocks.
this couldn't have happened without the consent, passive or otherwise of the "99%". they signed on the dotted line, probably without reading the fine print. fine with me, but get the fuck out of my parks, and either go work at labor ready and live within your means, or eat a bullet and save some oxygen for the rest of us.
Why is evil quoted? It's completely true and I would expect you to be aware of it. I'm kind of on the fence about it all though. Just because these companies and politicians can lie through their teeth and people are stupid enough to believe them, doesn't mean it's alright.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=613_1318889087
Howard Stern is stupid, and it shouldn't surprise you he was able to find morons. I guarantee they didn't randomly pick what clips they played, they picked the ones that best illustrated their opinion that they're all dumb stoners. A bunch are I'm sure, but I'm glad to see anything that gets Americans off their asses, because we have been getting fucked for decades...
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Why is evil quoted?
because when these retards were flush with cash, GE, Nike, Apple, Starbucks, every corporation that shipped jobs overseas were perfectly great and acceptable. their roth IRA's or 401k's managed by principal or fidelity or whomever were perfectly ok in their book. now that they've fucked themselves into financial oblivion, profit is the enemy. fuck that,
AND FUCK YOU
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Why is evil quoted?
because when these retards were flush with cash, GE, Nike, Apple, Starbucks, every corporation that shipped jobs overseas were perfectly great and acceptable. their roth IRA's or 401k's managed by principal or fidelity or whomever were perfectly ok in their book. now that they've fucked themselves into financial oblivion, profit is the enemy. fuck that,
AND FUCK YOU
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I don't have an ounce of pity for those that caused their own debt but I still have anger towards the gov't and corps. Why can't I be pissed? I was pissed when the jobs shipped overseas, I'm still pissed the countries actually benefit from shipping jobs elsewhere through tax breaks/loopholes, pissed at the government for allowing it to happen. It's not my fault 90% of the country doesn't pay attention and I can be pissed I have to put up with the fallout. I can be pissed virtually every industry is controlled by an increasingly smaller number of people and corporations. Look at the fucking food industry.
Special shout-out to my boys at Monsanto,
FUCK YOU
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you're not getting what i'm saying. be pissed all you want, but until you direct your anger in the direction of the people that can actually effect a change... aka the same 500ish people that made it possible to run this country into the ground. until the laws are changed, no corporation will change the way they're doing business.
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Monsanto food gives me gas.
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Monsanto food gives me gas.
I see what you did there. Well-played.
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Jorsher i like to think your relatively smart, but if your even remotely supporting these fucking loser hippies on wall street then your nuts. There nothing but cry babies pissed off they can't get a $100k job out of collage with there basket weaving or film degree. There not doing shit to upgrade there position other then bitching and moaning.
Seriously these people are NOT what this country needs. There hidden agendas and down right scary tactics/ actions should concern all normal people.
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Jorsher i like to think your relatively smart, but if your even remotely supporting these fucking loser hippies on wall street then your nuts. There nothing but cry babies pissed off they can't get a $100k job out of collage with there basket weaving or film degree. There not doing shit to upgrade there position other then bitching and moaning.
Seriously these people are NOT what this country needs. There hidden agendas and down right scary tactics/ actions should concern all normal people.
Meh, I know I'm relatively smart, so if you think otherwise I won't be upset ;) What I don't understand is why they keep being grouped together as if they're all there for the same reason or whether they all do/don't know why they're there. I'm sure there are some people there just to grope some ass. I'm aware they aren't going to get anywhere with this -- I said in the original post that it isn't going to accomplish anything on Wall Street, and I know whining to traders isn't going to get anything accomplished. A lot of people have a lot of reasons to be pissed; some legitimate, some not. To claim that nobody there has a reason to whine is nuts. I'm pissed and I don't have a college degree, make $60k+, haven't gone bankrupt or lost a home, and other than the car I don't have any debt. Again, not the best choice of venue, but I have a feeling a lot of the protesters can't just take a quick trip to DC. If you get your protest information from the news, I'd recommend looking elsewhere. All-in-all, I'm glad to see people on their feet bitching.
Also, what hidden agendas and scary tactics/actions?
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I don't have a ton out in student loans so far, and it still kills me to have that monkey on my back already.
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Your a smart dude who will go places unlike the majority of asshats at state schools. Sometimes student loans are just needed. I got lucky and had a solid job through school and dint have to go in the loan direction. I lived uber ghetto but it was a learning experince. i did have 2 swapped cars at the time so life wasnt that bad.
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http://dailybail.com/home/clueless-former-kc-fed-chairman-herman-cain-calls-occupy-wal.html
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I'm sure there are some people there just to grope some ass.
I see you made it to the Occupy Huntsville protests.
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Jorsher i like to think your relatively smart, but if your even remotely supporting these fucking loser hippies on wall street then your nuts. There nothing but cry babies pissed off they can't get a $100k job out of collage with there basket weaving or film degree. There not doing shit to upgrade there position other then bitching and moaning.
Seriously these people are NOT what this country needs. There hidden agendas and down right scary tactics/ actions should concern all normal people.
Meh, I know I'm relatively smart, so if you think otherwise I won't be upset ;) What I don't understand is why they keep being grouped together as if they're all there for the same reason or whether they all do/don't know why they're there. I'm sure there are some people there just to grope some ass. I'm aware they aren't going to get anywhere with this -- I said in the original post that it isn't going to accomplish anything on Wall Street, and I know whining to traders isn't going to get anything accomplished. A lot of people have a lot of reasons to be pissed; some legitimate, some not. To claim that nobody there has a reason to whine is nuts. I'm pissed and I don't have a college degree, make $60k+, haven't gone bankrupt or lost a home, and other than the car I don't have any debt. Again, not the best choice of venue, but I have a feeling a lot of the protesters can't just take a quick trip to DC. If you get your protest information from the news, I'd recommend looking elsewhere. All-in-all, I'm glad to see people on their feet bitching.
Also, what hidden agendas and scary tactics/actions?
Oh there bs about direct democracy or there absolutely cult like human mic BS, threatening the courts, etc..... I mean actually watch the videos ( not the so called interviews), Just the video's of these dumb shits in action.
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I'm sure there are some people there just to grope some ass.
I see you made it to the Occupy Huntsville protests.
did you grab bbq in downtown asheville with the CinC by chance?
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http://dailybail.com/home/clueless-former-kc-fed-chairman-herman-cain-calls-occupy-wal.html
Good point. There are bigger idiots running for presidency.
I'm sure there are some people there just to grope some ass.
I see you made it to the Occupy Huntsville protests.
Hah, nope. The crowd wasn't large enough to hide in.
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There's always a hidden agenda, all stemming from that 1%. All irony asside, it's our overall education that has to change. Humans are still in self-preservation mode, when working together will work better. Unfortunately we'll probably nuke ourselves before the dickfucks in power come to that conclusion too.
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ever wonder why the 1% is the 1%? perhaps because they're smarter, more motivated, and bred better than the 99%?
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ever wonder why the 1% is the 1%? perhaps because they're smarter, more motivated, and bred better than the 99%?
I agree, most poor people are willingly poor.
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ever wonder why the 1% is the 1%? perhaps because they're smarter, more motivated, and bred better than the 99%?
I agree, most poor people are willingly poor.
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ever wonder why the 1% is the 1%? perhaps because they're smarter, more motivated, and bred better than the 99%?
I agree, most poor people are willingly poor.
Willfully, not willingly. There's a subtle difference in connotation that, in my mind, makes all the difference.
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The 1 percent is the 1 percent as they were born rich. Im sure I can walk around majority of them in business but guess what I'm poor and work my ass off. My business pre-recession was on the verge of becoming something pretty damn impressive. Take away I spent my life building these cars that are basically now f'in illegal in california and guess what everything I learned is almost worthless.
Im a used parts king now. I rarely build motors anymore havent ported a head in months and Im charging so low and still nothing.
Anybody who will get to the 1 percent is a business owner and unless I'm blind no one starting with little in this country is going to become that anymore. Of course there are the 10 stories a year of some nerd writing some baller software but the realistic answer is no the 1 percent was born rich and will die rich.
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The 1% is the 1% from being usurious pieces of shit
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The 1 percent is the 1 percent as they were born rich. Im sure I can walk around majority of them in business but guess what I'm poor and work my ass off. My business pre-recession was on the verge of becoming something pretty damn impressive. Take away I spent my life building these cars that are basically now f'in illegal in california and guess what everything I learned is almost worthless.
Im a used parts king now. I rarely build motors anymore havent ported a head in months and Im charging so low and still nothing.
Anybody who will get to the 1 percent is a business owner and unless I'm blind no one starting with little in this country is going to become that anymore. Of course there are the 10 stories a year of some nerd writing some baller software but the realistic answer is no the 1 percent was born rich and will die rich.
you're poor because your target market is fucking small and replete with competition. look at the top wealth holders. gates, jobs, cuban, buffet, soros, etc....
all self made. they found ways to make things we didn't even know we needed. people that are born rich don't always stay that way... how many rich kids lose their fortunes and fail miserably? a lot.
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So Im suppose to learn about baller cars when i come from the ghetto. Come on really?
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1% is 1% by buying their competition and buying politicians to pass legislation that will prevent new competition from threatening them, or being born into it. The ones that become rich either win the lottery or think of something that nobody has ever thought of before, which is more rare than getting struck by lightening, which is why media makes such a big deal about these stories. Most of it is software, because that's the only market that anyone can enter. Look at game development: you used to be able to make a quality game in your basement, now unless you have a budget of millions and a huge team of experienced individuals and a great idea or an existing popular franchise -- forget about it. Mobile was the one market that a fairly talented individual could get rich with, but that's even becoming something for the big developers.
An interesting though: as technology improves, there's less of a need for human employees. The positions that still need people get minimized as processes improve and companies become more efficient. The more people without jobs, the lower wages can be reduced and still get filled. It seems to me like it's inevitable, and I wonder what happens when the super efficient companies now no longer have a population that can afford their shit? Socialism?
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1% is 1% by buying their competition and buying politicians to pass legislation that will prevent new competition from threatening them, or being born into it. The ones that become rich either win the lottery or think of something that nobody has ever thought of before, which is more rare than getting struck by lightening, which is why media makes such a big deal about these stories. Most of it is software, because that's the only market that anyone can enter. Look at game development: you used to be able to make a quality game in your basement, now unless you have a budget of millions and a huge team of experienced individuals and a great idea or an existing popular franchise -- forget about it. Mobile was the one market that a fairly talented individual could get rich with, but that's even becoming something for the big developers.
An interesting though: as technology improves, there's less of a need for human employees. The positions that still need people get minimized as processes improve and companies become more efficient. The more people without jobs, the lower wages can be reduced and still get filled. It seems to me like it's inevitable, and I wonder what happens when the super efficient companies now no longer have a population that can afford their shit? Socialism?
or the shit becomes cheaper and hours get reduced to minimal shit. We live in a post industrial society, and work more than we did in feudalism when it's not needed. How the current system is set up its sustainable with about 58% of the population working full time jobs, and that's probably an overly exaggerated figure. I'm sure its feasible with about 20% of the population working full time, or less.
It makes no sense to have a small fraction of the working age population doing 100% of the work for the rest of the population. It would make much more sense to divide the labor out accordingly and drop the work week down to a minimal amount of time. 20 hours a week or far less. As technology advances, its only going to get worse, and this is one of the only viable solutions I see to the issue.
Usury keeps everyone on the long grind, though.
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Yap. It's something I've thought about for years and I think the movie Wall-E may touch on, however I haven't watched it yet. While you used to need a whole family of slaves to pick cotton, now you just need a farmer and machine. Could probably go all day listing jobs that have been deprecated by tech. Eventually, I see about the only cost to a lot of industry being energy consumption (which could be mitigated), and maintenance (which theoretically could be replaced as well as the workers). Research will probably be a human duty for a long time, but it's also inevitable for AI to replace that, and will probably only require a couple people to set the parameters before putting the computer with no fatigue and no memory loss to work. Fortunately I don't see it all happening in my lifetime anyway.
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The 1 percent is the 1 percent as they were born rich. Im sure I can walk around majority of them in business but guess what I'm poor and work my ass off. My business pre-recession was on the verge of becoming something pretty damn impressive. Take away I spent my life building these cars that are basically now f'in illegal in california and guess what everything I learned is almost worthless.
Im a used parts king now. I rarely build motors anymore havent ported a head in months and Im charging so low and still nothing.
Anybody who will get to the 1 percent is a business owner and unless I'm blind no one starting with little in this country is going to become that anymore. Of course there are the 10 stories a year of some nerd writing some baller software but the realistic answer is no the 1 percent was born rich and will die rich.
I'm sorry but your poor because you think poor., that's all there is to it. You have this mindset that something isn't obtainable then you will NEVER achieve it. Regardless of what you think there are shit tons of people who came from poor backgrounds and have succeeded to becoming the 1%. If you talked to a few well off people you would understand why they have succeeded.
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