:::RHMT::: Real Home Made Turbo
General Category => Hybrid/Tech => Topic started by: SDRAWKCAB on February 05, 2012, 03:47:33 PM
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So when I first started working on cars I skipped over all the jdm bullshit and only did shit to make my car faster.
Well since Iv been working on the rex again. Iv been at the junk yard allot lately.
Its a 90 dx CRX
So today I pulled a set of 01 teg rear disc/ 1" m.c. /booster and 40/40 prop valve for $150.
I know Im gonna have to bend the lines for the m.c. and everything else should be direct swap.
From what Iv read DA fronts should be a direct swap minutes a couple degrees camber. You can use DA calipers on EF EX rotors and they bolt up.
Heres the questions. Im going back tomorrow to get the whole front DA set up, should I just snatch just the calipers and lines and try to find a set of ex spindles? Any problems with what I have going so far? Any better setups that can be had on the cheap?
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I ran the DA shit on the front of my EF hatch with no problems.... :noel:
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there is all kinds of problems with what you posted...
calipers... DA = EX
rotors... DA = EX
knuckles... DA < EX
EX 15/16" MC is a direct swap. but if i wasnt lazy as shit, i probably would do a DC MC swap also.
one think i have noticed is that DA knuckles are also heaviyer than Civic knuckles...
also, credit to AJ for posting, you can use ITR.accord wagon or V6, CRV, Vigor, TL, Legend whatever calipers w/ 07ish MINI Cooper (excluding all special models/trims) rotors for a bolt on 11" rotor combo (for DC/DA/EX)
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Step one: Get rid of your shitbox Honda and get a big boy toy.
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I ran the DA shit on the front of my EF hatch with no problems.... :noel:
Thats what I was looking for.
Every search kept taking me back to honda tech and I don't trust shit I read there.
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i sold/gave a buddy a set of EX knuckles to replace his integra shit for his CRX, he said that his car was greatly improved. think he said wheel placement, along with alignment...
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Nah, the DA knuckles work perfectly.
::)
Yes they bolt on, but so do a bunch of other knuckles. Running bigger brakes on the DX/Si knuckles isn't exactly difficult anymore.
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are EX knuckles really that difficult? i have had many sets over the years, passed on just as many... its off a civic, it will work 100 fuckin % with no worries. plus im pretty damn sure they are lighter than DA shit.
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are EX knuckles really that difficult? i have had many sets over the years, passed on just as many... its off a civic, it will work 100 fuckin % with no worries. plus im pretty damn sure they are lighter than DA shit.
Probably varies geographically.
I have owned two sets, and passed on pulling at least one set. I do not go to the yards often at all.
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Brian, why don't you hook me up with those dx spindles if you get some ex spindles.
I had to stick some eg dx spindles on my std in a pinch so I could run normal axles, but the camber is shitty. I have 13" wheels for my slicks so I have to run small brakes.
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shit if you where local.... i have a 90 Si CRX full setup... :Jew:
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I need dx though. SI brakes are too big.
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also, credit to AJ for posting, you can use ITR.accord wagon or V6, CRV, Vigor, TL, Legend whatever calipers w/ 07ish MINI Cooper (excluding all special models/trims) rotors for a bolt on 11" rotor combo (for DC/DA/EX)
I wish I could take credit for that, but JD was the one that originally posted it. I just whored out the post because I don't think anyone even looked at it but me.
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Brian, why don't you hook me up with those dx spindles if you get some ex spindles.
I had to stick some eg dx spindles on my std in a pinch so I could run normal axles, but the camber is shitty. I have 13" wheels for my slicks so I have to run small brakes.
There yours once I swap. LOL
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I need dx though. SI brakes are too big.
Civic/CRX DX and Si are the same brakes. 240mm.
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I need dx though. SI brakes are too big.
Civic/CRX DX and Si are the same brakes. 240mm.
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My roomates DX has smaller brakes than any SI I have ever had.
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Then they are probably Hf or STD brakes.
EDIT: I thought that STD brakes were smaller, but haven't dounf hard evidence of that.
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My std brakes are the same as her dx brakes, but she has standard size axles so they aren't std spindles. Her car is 100% stock, I doubt anyone has been swapping any parts.
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The funny part is My daily is a 91 ex. I kind want to put the teg knuckles on the ex and put the ex ones on the CRX. LOL
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I'll help, I need spindles. Lol
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calipers: DX = STD
knuckles: HF = STD
90-91 CRX Si had slightly larger brake pad/calipers than 88-91 DX/STD and 88-89 Si.
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The funny part is My daily is a 91 ex. I kind want to put the teg knuckles on the ex and put the ex ones on the CRX. LOL
Why not put the DX knuckles on the EX???
My 91 had the knuckles sold off it and 6g knuckles installed when it was slammed. Once I raised it up, back to DX/Si setup, no problems.
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calipers: DX = STD
knuckles: HF = STD
90-91 CRX Si had slightly larger brake pad/calipers than 88-91 DX/STD and 88-89 Si.
Makes sense. I have always had 91 si's.
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The funny part is My daily is a 91 ex. I kind want to put the teg knuckles on the ex and put the ex ones on the CRX. LOL
Why not put the DX knuckles on the EX???
My 91 had the knuckles sold off it and 6g knuckles installed when it was slammed. Once I raised it up, back to DX/Si setup, no problems.
Iv been contemplating it. The only thing is I like my ex and I need some stopping power when I put a b18 in it.
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Extra stopping power for a B16?
:?:
I know a lot of people find it hard to believe, but good brake pads make a huge difference. The brakes on my turd CX were scary as fuck when I bought it. Fresh rotors and some Hawk HPS pads made an incredible difference.
Are you planning on stopping from 100+ several times in a row or some shit?
I have experienced what more brakes than tires can do by accident. It ruins tires, and doesn't stop you any sooner.
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I have experienced what more brakes than tires can do by accident. It ruins tires, and doesn't stop you any sooner.
Ive done the same. It fucking sucked. Tires had less than 1000 miles on them b4 I flat spotted those fuckers. Man I was pissed!
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I have experienced what more brakes than tires can do by accident. It ruins tires, and doesn't stop you any sooner.
Ive done the same. It fucking sucked. Tires had less than 1000 miles on them b4 I flat spotted those fuckers. Man I was pissed!
I did it on what I can only describe as a rail slide going around a corner in the "mountians" in northern Arkansas.
Down to the cords, and there was at least 90% tread on those tires. They were Falken 912s though, so it isn't like the tires themselves were a big loss.
That was an expensive ordeal between the ticket, and getting tow new front tires ASAP. Lesson learned. Don't ever try to drive 10/10ths on open public roads, and get better rubber when running big brakes.
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its not like he is throwing 6 piston brembo calipers and 12" rotors on his crx. its stock brakes from a car that weighs 200lb more than the one they are going on. its not going to make a huge difference
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With RE-11s, and 10.2 brakes with HPS pads, I can still easliy overpower the tires.
;DDD
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overpowering the tires is hardly the point. a geo metro can lock up the tires. the whole point is modulation. being able to control the brake pad clamping force to clamp as much as possible without locking up the tires.
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overpowering the tires is hardly the point. a geo metro can lock up the tires. the whole point is modulation. being able to control the brake pad clamping force to clamp as much as possible without locking up the tires.
No the whole point is being JDM AS FUCK and the fact that I picked it up wicked cheap. LOL I needed to change the shoes anyways.
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thats why my CRX needs 11;s...
btw someone needs to RHMT some 10.2s for the rears.... fuck this expensive ass EP3/DC5 shit.
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thats why my CRX needs 11;s...
btw someone needs to RHMT some 10.2s for the rears.... fuck this expensive ass EP3/DC5 shit.
Hastycakes already did that, even started a company.
www.fastbrakes.com (http://www.fastbrakes.com)
Unless you plan on doing 30 minute enduro's on Hoosier A6's, the small brakes will be find with proper pad selection.
SCCA ITA/ITB/ITC classes all make due for 30-45 minute races on REAL tracks.
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overpowering the tires is hardly the point. a geo metro can lock up the tires. the whole point is modulation. being able to control the brake pad clamping force to clamp as much as possible without locking up the tires.
No the whole point is being JDM AS FUCK and the fact that I picked it up wicked cheap. LOL I needed to change the shoes anyways.
You need itr 5 lug swap and brakes. You're doing it wrong. Lol
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here is a very simple bigger brake conversion which i have on my 90 std civic hatch.. and it will fit on any civic from 88-95 that i know of cause i have done it to other cars also.... it gives you the use of 10.2 in rotor and bigger calpier to use... compared to the normal 240mm or 9,5 in rotor which comes on all 88-91 civic or crx
you take the knuckle, rotor, caliper from a 1990 honda civic sedan lx model.... must be the lx sedan model and its a very easy swap.... took me 2 hours to do... take off from sedan in junk yard and put on my car. i love the braking power and it was a cheap swap
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88-91 LX has the same small 240mm/9.3" brakes as your STD HB.
You O0 or :mexi: ?
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OP thinking of the ex sedan, And good luck finding a set for under 250$ from someone who knows what they are. I got those knuckles and da rear disks for 200$ out of my local yard.
I also find it hard that you notice a difference in braking power because you never mentioned a prop valve swap. Just putting on the knuckles and not the MC/prop valve will just give you a mushy pedal you have to push harder
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http://hybrids.jp/articles/bigbrakes.html (http://hybrids.jp/articles/bigbrakes.html)
I did this swap couple months back. It works and cheap
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I also find it hard that you notice a difference in braking power because you never mentioned a prop valve swap. Just putting on the knuckles and not the MC/prop valve will just give you a mushy pedal you have to push harder
First post
So today I pulled a set of 01 teg rear disc/ 1" m.c. /booster and 40/40 prop valve for $150.
I just got into a collision with my EX on Friday and it was the other drivers fault so if they try to total Im telling them I want to keep the car. Brake problem solved
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http://board.hondacrx.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6004 (http://board.hondacrx.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6004)
I've seen MG zs brake discs on ebay, plus you can use S2000 calipers with a little machining:
http://board.hondacrx.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=131631 (http://board.hondacrx.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=131631)
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You have to be a member to see anything. Copy and paste
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stole the front brakes off the ex. Im going to do a part out soon if anyone is looking for anything.
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I'm looking for spindles. Lol
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Ok here's the UK way:
I tried my much publicised big brake conversion on Dans car today!
IF you have a VT
Cheap/Secondhand route, Parts used were:
Rover 623gsi single piston calipers
Rover ZS180 discs
623 pads
PLEASE CHECK THE ABOVE LIST - 623 DISKS DONT FIT
IF you have a VT and you are loaded (break Wink )!!
New MGZS180 calipers
New MGZS180 disks
New Pads
Total around £5/£600
IF you have a 16v
Then you will require CRX Vtec front hubs AND Track Rod Ends as well. (this converts 16v front setup to match the VT). This is obviously in addition to the upgrade parts as listed above
The calipers are a perfect bolt on fit - but they sometimes need a 2mm spacer between the carrier and the caliper - this places the caliper in the correct position as the ZS discs have a 2mm difference in offset (VT's do not need this spacer only Rovers!)
The caliper itself needs a quick "clean" with an angle grinder - as the 623 discs are 2mm thinner than the ZS discs and WILL just "touch" if driven hard or overheated. Just take a very small amount from the caliper where the disk may contact.
This fits perfectly ! - and will fit under Rover 15" alloys with no clearance problems
The Calipers bolt up using the original bolts, and the ZS disks look much much bigger then the std items. As a bonus the 623 pads are much larger than the std CRX pads - so there is a much better surface area contacting the disk.
The 623 calipers work, as do the 620ti, some 620 autos come with the 282mm discs too - but I looked at 3 over the weekend - and they were all 262mm Sad
BE SURE TO SPECIFY MGZS180 282mm Disks - as ZS120 disks are 262mm and are the same as the CRX VT
And here's another way:
Big brake upgrade.
brand new discs and pads still in box unused
Reconditioned S2000 calipers (new seals and painted red after been sand blasted).
caliper has been machined to fit the 16v with 282mm mg zr vented discs.
broonie1169930 wrote:
Why are they just 282mm discs? The standard s2000 brakes are the same as ep3's so use 300mm discs
so people don't have to change to vt hubs and vt track rod ends. Wink
ill post pics up asap, no these have been done to fit the 16v crx's no hub changes. the reason they are on 282mm discs is because the mounts the caliper sits on will not allow 300mm discs. the discs are been supplied and there brand new also the pads are also brand new. the s2000 calipers have been refurbished and all seals replaced with new ones.
(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi243.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff3%2Facid2000%2F2012-03-19213307.jpg&hash=7a6da2f25972499fff9df61a3f10dedd9142e38b)
how much have you machined them?
i've the same setup on my 16v but i use corrado disks.
mg ones will fit better and let me gain some more space between caliper an rim
approx 1mm as this all mine needed to fit, there is a recess on the s2000 calipers and i just machined down to this so it does not affect the caliper strength of the body.
i did machine the carrier 1mm as well as the inside edge of the caliper, i got the carrier machined at a enginering shop as i did not want to do this myself as it has to be the exact same amounts on both sides.
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11.8" fronts are too big unless you upgrade the rear AND have gumballs for tires. Plus they won't fit under 15" rims. THe prelude/mini combo will fit under stock 15" alloys, and the machined prelude/dx/10.4" combo will fit with 14" rims.
There's also the fact 11.8" are much heavier, more than you think since it's rotating mass. It's also sprung mass, which fucks with your suspension a bit.
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THe prelude/mini combo will fit under stock 15" alloys, and the machined prelude/dx/10.4" combo will fit with 14" rims.
Doing something like this on my eg and later my crx, except dual piston GS sedan calipers. :noel:
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Porsche 6 piston or go home.
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Porsche 6 piston or go home.
I'm not driving with gumballs and my car is staying under 2500lbs. :noel:
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Porsche 6 piston or go home.
I'm not driving with gumballs and my car is staying under 2500lbs. :noel:
Car (EG HB) was under 2000 lbs without driver, even with monster H22 on boost.
Then again those type of brakes are needed when slowing down from 175-180 mph.
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Porsche 6 piston or go home.
I'm not driving with gumballs and my car is staying under 2500lbs. :noel:
Car (EG HB) was under 2000 lbs without driver, even with monster H22 on boost.
Then again those type of brakes are needed when slowing down from 175-180 mph.
I'll be happy if I can hot lap at High Plains Raceway at 130mph in the straights. :noel: