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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Ntrain2k on August 05, 2009, 06:14:05 PM
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what a fucking waste.
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what a fucking waste.
duh.
its a govt program
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They drain the oil, pop in a couple of quarts of liquid glass, then run them till they seize.
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or they could have parted them out and flooded the market with cheap used oem parts, then poor people with shit cars with bad egr and shit could get them fixed
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or they could have parted them out and flooded the market with cheap used oem parts, then poor people with shit cars with bad egr and shit could get them fixed
or given them to needy people/nonprofits instead of crushing a running vehicle. fucking obama administration can SUCK MY FUCKING DICK
this shit gets me so heated
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only a couply of those vehicles in the vid really looked like clunkers, most were better condition then my 3 cars that get 35mpg or better
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if those guys parted those out, or did anything but send them to the crushes they'd prob go to jail
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our lawmakers are so detached from reality.
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They have to destroy the motor.
Once that's done, the rest goes to the junkyard.
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Ridiculous.
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Lol the infinity wouldn't die...
Older engines/parts are getting harder to find and we just destroyed hundreds of thousands of vehicles...
Boo
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So much for the hippies complaining about living in excess and the polluting factories. Now they're destroying good shit, cheering people to buy something they don't need, milking the taxpayers, and calling it a success.
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what a fucking waste.
But I just heard a Ford commercial this evening that says they recycle your old car. How is that wasteful?? :mexi:
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or they could have parted them out and flooded the market with cheap used oem parts, then poor people with shit cars with bad egr and shit could get them fixed
or given them to needy people/nonprofits instead of crushing a running vehicle. fucking obama administration can SUCK MY FUCKING DICK
this shit gets me so heated
.....but it was time for change.
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So much for the hippies complaining about living in excess and the polluting factories. Now they're destroying good shit, cheering people to buy something they don't need, milking the taxpayers, and calling it a success.
The Green Party actually is not in favor of this last time I checked. This is government bullshit. Nothing more or less. Granted, if I had a beater that was worth $2k and I could get $4500 for it, I'd go for it. But I also know that it is significantly better for the environment to keep an old car running than it is to produce a new car.
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Fuck this program. There's no way this is good.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window)
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Fuck that pisses me off. Blind rage break shit pissed. I don't understand how that made sense to someone.
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JOHNNY PAID FOR ALL THOSE CAR WITH MONEY THE GOVT TOOK FROM HIM AT GUNPOINT!!!!!
THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!!!
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Fuck that pisses me off. Blind rage break shit pissed. I don't understand how that made sense to someone.
not that i agree with it, but the supposed point of this whole thingwas to get cars that got bad fuel economy off the road for good, and get people into new fuel efficient cars to lowe rthe need for foreign fuel, or so i hear. if the govt didnt have a stake in it (GM) i doubt it would have happened.
its all bullshit anwyays
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Its a great idea Look how many less POS GM vehicles will be on the road :noel:
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All of those cars were better than my car except the astro vans. Those aren't better than anything.
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Our government depends on GM and Ford taxes more than most things to fund their senseless acts.
This is more or less a bail out in a round about way supporting auto manufacturers here in the states, or at least that's what I thought it was.
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they're destroying good shit, cheering people to buy something they don't need, milking the taxpayers, and calling it a success.
if the govt didnt have a stake in it (GM) i doubt it would have happened.
that stuff
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So what's the rules of this policy? Can I go buy six shit bricks for $500 ech and go trade them in on a brand new car? If they would let you do that then I would be all over it.
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So what's the rules of this policy? Can I go buy six shit bricks for $500 ech and go trade them in on a brand new car? If they would let you do that then I would be all over it.
Never mind, what a useless crock of shit.
The basics: One person, one credit. So pick your jalopy wisely. Also, since the trade-in car must be destroyed, “consumers purchasing or leasing a new vehicle under this program should not expect to receive the full trade-in value of their old vehicle when negotiating with a dealer.†More on the destruction later.
What old cars qualify? Anything up to 25 years old that is still driveable, has been insured for the last year, and gets 18 miles per gallon or less. By the way, that’s under the new EPA rules (which lowered estimated mileage)—so more cars will actually qualify.
What can you get? For a new passenger car, anything that gets 22 miles a gallon; for SUVs and light trucks, 18 miles a gallon. For heavy pickup trucks, 15 miles a gallon.
How much do you get? If you trade a car for a car, and the new vehicle gets between 4 and 9 miles a gallon better mileage, $3,500. If it gets 10 miles a gallon more than the junker, that goes up to $4,500.
If you trade a car for a light truck, things get a little less green. A modest 2 to 4 mile improvement in fuel economy nets $3,500; a 5 mile-per-gallon improvement means $4,500. And if you are just trading in large trucks, a single 1 mile-per-gallon improvement is worth $3,500, while a modest 2 mile-per-gallon boost gets you $4,500.
The Transportation Department was really worried about fraud—that dealers taking the old cars would put them back on the road, as the DOT says has happened in Germany’s cash-for-clunkers program. So they spent plenty of time testing ways to destroy engines.
For the record, the recommended action plan for dealers is to get a $7 bottle of sodium silicate, pour it in, and drive until the whole engine freezes.
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Notice how the nissan wouldnt die.
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Make no mistake, these cars dont go to a junkyard to get parted, they go directly to the crusher or chipper. I have seen so many good vehicles that could benefit the poor get fucked up.. and guess where this 3 billion dollars is coming from? Your paycheck and China.. Guess what MASS polluting country is laughing all the way to the fucking bank? China! Guess what country will buy out the U.S. if we dont quit over revving the money presses and giving money to big business assholes that chose to squander it or start Ponzi schemes? Fucking knock off artists.... So much of the shit that congress is trying to pass in a blitzkrieg at night will fucking break the back and spirit of a once great country.
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who really cares, johnny is picking up the tab on this thing anyways.
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either way they have a bunch of white trash, nig nogs, or beaners trading in the car they don't have a payment on, to buy something that they can't afford to pay for with government handouts, so now the auto industry will go heels up in a few years, just like the real estate did. in all seriousness, you will be paying for this.
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either way they have a bunch of white trash, nig nogs, or beaners trading in the car they don't have a payment on, to buy something that they can't afford to pay for with government handouts, so now the auto industry will go heels up in a few years, just like the real estate did. in all seriousness, you will be paying for this.
never thought about it that way, its a possibility that people will do this. the same way the FHA/no money down/nehemiah mortgage scams some people took advantage of.
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there were some nice cars in there some i could easily flip and make money on here in canada
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Its a great idea Look how many less POS GM vehicles will be on the road :noel:
agreed, 90% of our clunkers are GM's, and the other 10% are Ford Econolines!
we havent had the chance to "disable" them yet, Our owner is cheap he probably won't even spend the money on the liquid glass. He'll be like, just drain the oil and then let them die on their own.
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either way they have a bunch of white trash, nig nogs, or beaners trading in the car they don't have a payment on, to buy something that they can't afford to pay for with government handouts, so now the auto industry will go heels up in a few years, just like the real estate did. in all seriousness, you will be paying for this.
never thought about it that way, its a possibility that people will do this. the same way the FHA/no money down/nehemiah mortgage scams some people took advantage of.
then we'll have bailouts for people who can't make their car payments.
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either way they have a bunch of white trash, nig nogs, or beaners trading in the car they don't have a payment on, to buy something that they can't afford to pay for with government handouts, so now the auto industry will go heels up in a few years, just like the real estate did. in all seriousness, you will be paying for this.
never thought about it that way, its a possibility that people will do this. the same way the FHA/no money down/nehemiah mortgage scams some people took advantage of.
then we'll have bailouts for people who can't make their car payments.
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you got your change, fucksticks.
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Non-profits are going broke now too since no one is turning in their Junkers. My dad did that twice with his old beat up van and my brothers beat to hell Accord. the tax write off is pretty healthy well above what the cars were.
Simple this is just another social science project. Give it about a year and you will need a bailout of consumers out of these new cars.
Anyone who thinks what is going on is bad what till Obama is done doing is Magic tricks.
I myself am making a trip down to Southern California to start looking for my desert tweaker pad. Buy it for nothing and wait out the storm that is about to hit our society.
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That is the only way to survive what is coming. Or leave the country for a while
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(918): Can I use cash for clunkers to trade in her boobs for a new set of 18 year old tits?
(305): Its worth a shot.
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That is the only way to survive what is coming. Or leave the country for a while
I personally think were at a downfall that we wont recover from. Our society is a joke so our government is an example of that.
Lets not forget the insurance increase on a new car too. So now people who are going pay check to paycheck now
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300-500 dollar monthly payments most likely the higher end of that number
100-200 for insurance per month for a new vehicle
Damn its the housing crisis all over again.
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Oh yes, I disagree and argue with johnny about lots of things, but this is legit. If you think the country is in trouble now, it's time to wake up. This is still going to get much worse
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i fucking hate poor people
if all the poor people died i wouldnt give a fuck
we need more tophats in america
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You know this is probably the most economicly productive spending the Obama administration has passed, no wonder why it was so hard to find more money to fund it.
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so fucking stupid
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Damn Vulva didn't want to die.
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Oh yes, I disagree and argue with johnny about lots of things, but this is legit. If you think the country is in trouble now, it's time to wake up. This is still going to get much worse
They will have to do another bailout next year same deal since well we de-industralized this nation to the point of no return.
California has no chance of recovering its impossible. Smog/Business laws have removed anything that would of given Industry a chance.
But we are safe now that all bullbreed dogs have to be fixed in numerous counties. Thank God those 2 pitbull attacks each year should be the main focus not Budget control.
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..... can we have a revote? Fuckers do it right this time, Ron Paul FTW. At least we could be selling tons of legal weed for revenue. :noel:
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that volvo looks mint, imma go cry now
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i can see it now
"govt buy back. cant afford that car you got with your cash for clunkers trade in? well buy your car back for what you owe plus give you 4500 on top towards a new vehicle"
and the catch will be that it has to be under a certain price so they can "afford" this one.
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You know this is probably the most economicly productive spending the Obama administration has passed, no wonder why it was so hard to find more money to fund it.
No, there is nothing productive about it. Short term, maybe. Long term no way.
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4500 barely covers the tax on a new car
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$4500 is a lot of hookers and blow.
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4500 barely covers the tax on a new car
Exactly the point. How many people have another 600-700 a month to blow on a car these days. Not many but millions are signing for them.
Everyone throw a brick at peoples windows who have obama stickers on their cars.
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fucking obama administration can SUCK MY FUCKING DICK
What would the repulicans done? Either nothing, or handed out 0% loans like candy to 16yr olds w/o jobs for new Z06's.
And it's only costing a few billion dollars. How much money was pumped into banks to save them because the republicans sucked big-business dick for a decade?
Fuck obama for saving the auto industry and saving the PEOPLE money. How dare he help the commoners. (https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.realhomemadeturbo.com%2Fforum%2FSmileys%2Fclassic%2Frolleyes.gif&hash=5805137b67db00abde932177bc58b11cc93be8c2)
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He's not saving anything, Rass, he's throwing these perfectly good cars away.
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obama is right fuck big business lets relocated wall street to hong kong
because guess what, without wall street, the exchanges in a couple other cities like chicago, america is a worthless shithole that MAKES NOTHING
go ahead and try to support all you broke faggot niggers looking for handouts, all you have left without "big business" and republicans is hollywood and jds tuning shop
try to tax them to make enough to pave aroad you stupid niggers
fuck you and fuck that presidential spook
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fucking obama administration can SUCK MY FUCKING DICK
What would the repulicans done? Either nothing, or handed out 0% loans like candy to 16yr olds w/o jobs for new Z06's.
And it's only costing a few billion dollars. How much money was pumped into banks to save them because the republicans sucked big-business dick for a decade?
Fuck obama for saving the auto industry and saving the PEOPLE money. How dare he help the commoners. (https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.realhomemadeturbo.com%2Fforum%2FSmileys%2Fclassic%2Frolleyes.gif&hash=5805137b67db00abde932177bc58b11cc93be8c2)
i don't know what to say to you because you usually seem to be a smarter man than i.
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hiprof is a nigger
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fucking obama administration can SUCK MY FUCKING DICK
What would the repulicans done? Either nothing, or handed out 0% loans like candy to 16yr olds w/o jobs for new Z06's.
And it's only costing a few billion dollars. How much money was pumped into banks to save them because the republicans sucked big-business dick for a decade?
Fuck obama for saving the auto industry and saving the PEOPLE money. How dare he help the commoners. (https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.realhomemadeturbo.com%2Fforum%2FSmileys%2Fclassic%2Frolleyes.gif&hash=5805137b67db00abde932177bc58b11cc93be8c2)
Shortsightedness FTL.
Rope. NAOW.
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fucking obama administration can SUCK MY FUCKING DICK
What would the repulicans done? Either nothing, or handed out 0% loans like candy to 16yr olds w/o jobs for new Z06's.
And it's only costing a few billion dollars. How much money was pumped into banks to save them because the republicans sucked big-business dick for a decade?
Fuck obama for saving the auto industry and saving the PEOPLE money. How dare he help the commoners. (https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.realhomemadeturbo.com%2Fforum%2FSmileys%2Fclassic%2Frolleyes.gif&hash=5805137b67db00abde932177bc58b11cc93be8c2)
Dude are you retarded? He didn't save shit. He is setting it up to be a even greater downfall. Like Chris said these fuckers can't pay their bills as is and they are signing them up for new cars with $800+ car payments. This is the real estate shit all over again.
I don't give two shits about the auto industry in America. Guess what, if you didn't make shitty cars forever tarnishing your reputation and pay retarded fucks with a high school diploma $30 hr and bend over and take it up the ass every time they mention strike they wouldn't be where they are.
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I don't give two shits about the auto industry in America. Guess what, if you didn't make shitty cars forever tarnishing your reputation and pay retarded fucks with a high school diploma $30 hr and bend over and take it up the ass every time they mention strike they wouldn't be where they are.
And on top of that, the shitty people got $30.00 an hour.
Thank you unions....
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And on top of that, the shitty people got $30.00 an hour.
Thank you unions....
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yeah shit around here i think people get $14-15/hr for assembly work. even welders get maybe $20/hr. so why do they get so much money..... there is always someone willing to work assembly work around here for cheap. it's how it is.
fucking joke if you ask me.
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First off, i do believe this is more or less to spur spending in the U.S. considering we are nothing more then a large consumer. We stop consuming, we die off in layman's terms. And the only other thing that will keep us alive, innovation and design is just not near the amount it should as we have to import heads from India, Japan and Germany just to keep engineering staff's full.
Second, look at auto sales a few months ago. Go to the ford dealerships and the Focus's already had more then 4500 dollars off sticker. And the cars being traded in were actually being recycled. So the idea of this being a "great time" to buy a car is very flawed in logic.
So aside from the waste of these parts for semi-older American cars, this program was designed to keep spending going. We stop spending, I.E. too many people owning homes and dumping their usual expendable income into their mortgage, then we fail as a country. As soon as all the upside mortgages get snatched up by the European Union and Chinese investors, who are also partially owned by upper class americans, then the economy will start heading back towards another peak and crash.
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the only reason the government has "helped" the auto industry is because they make the government money. if you think obama has stimulated the economy, i want what you are fucking high on. obama's monopoly money will be the death of the american economy, and there are too many lazy freeloading fucksticks that don't give a fuck about it who will sit back and take the handout
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Rule of thumb kids
Printing money doesnt make money.
To say we are only a consumer is foolish. There are plenty of die hard companies that produce every single part here in the states and we need to support them to keep that alive.
Also my Dad works with only one non American in his Engineering department with the department of defense. This is an office of 50+. People act like the Brains of this country went away,they didnt. They are just out numbered now and are lost in the mix.
Also the income these people had should go to something besides something that cant afford. Half of these cars will be seeing a repo man with 80 pound pitbulls around their cars in 6 months. That sounds like progress
Mr.Crxtuner can you afford a new car payment of 500+200+ for insurance. Look at these cars being traded in they are your typical low income families. They dont have 700 dollars a month to spend on a car for the next 60+months.
Now dont say oh well it was just an old junker they had. My dad as a said before gave the beater cars of the family to non-charity for tax write offs. So your going to claim people who are middle class/upper middle class kept old Gm/Ford/Dodge cars since they knew a Government 4500 rebate was going to come someday.
People who are bringing in enough cash dont like staring at that beater 91 Ford in the driveway next to the new Honda Accord.
People who still have that 91 Ford are broke hence why they have a 91 Ford.
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Maybe if 98% of the shit we have in America wasn't produced out of country we wouldn't be in this crap. People have been saying for years buy American. Instead more and more places get out sourced just to give you your cheap china man junk that will break in a week for $2 less.
Start to tax the fuck out of imports. Offer tax breaks to manufacturers who build in America. There are a lot of little things that can be done to stimulate the economy more than this retarded crap.
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Taxing imports is the answer, governments have been doing that for a few thousand years.
Anyone for free trade is a looter.
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pro tip... these horrible hated banking institutions that need to be destroyed and killed paid almsot 50,000,000$ in taxes last year ... meanwhile the sacred "gives the govt money" auto industry needs more than that in free lewtz to stay afloat
gg americunts gg
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pro tip... these horrible hated banking institutions that need to be destroyed and killed paid almsot 50,000,000$ in taxes last year ... meanwhile the sacred "gives the govt money" auto industry needs more than that in free lewtz to stay afloat
gg americunts gg
add some zeroes, but yes. anybody that can't see the endgame to this deserves whatever they get.
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Maybe if 98% of the shit we have in America wasn't produced out of country we wouldn't be in this crap. People have been saying for years buy American. Instead more and more places get out sourced just to give you your cheap china man junk that will break in a week for $2 less.
Start to tax the fuck out of imports. Offer tax breaks to manufacturers who build in America. There are a lot of little things that can be done to stimulate the economy more than this retarded crap.
protectionism won't work.
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We got the same shit over here.
The MG-Rover group got into trouble because it almost went bankrupt. Government bailed it out and sold it to a bunch of suits for ten quid (about 16 bucks).
Suits recycled the same old shit over and over again (Honda Legends, EG/EK Civic based hatches, and MB5 Civics).
The cars were good, the company was shit. Get rid of the commies and the unions and pay a realistic wage and the car industry wouldn't be in half the shit they are in now.
And our cash-for-clunkers scheme? Gubbermint gives you a grand (1600 bucks), car makers give you about the same as long as you trade in something over ten years old. It's sickening seeing what goes in for scrap, but at least we're allowed to sell the parts off.
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Glenn Beck: Government Website Takes Over Your Computer Forever (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAOBlqUqUZ8#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)
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Olbermann is a crazy.
he was funny on sports center. how could we ever know he was such a flaming faggot
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the best part about this is most the people who did this wont be spending any money its going to be all tied up in loans,besides food and essentials. so instead of spending money on a veriety of things they are now tied up in a LOAN and the car company sold a shitty car to pay there union employees for working really safe. they could of at least sold the cars to junkyards for a cheap price. they could of probably made money back sense we all know "up to" 4500 off non sales price is a joke.
words from my retarded married in unlce, the other day, who did the cash for clunkers before i told him what they did to the cars. "obama is a modern day robin hood" i laughed for a good while.
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Ture story most americans are lazy and some how recieve a decent pay despite lack of skill .
I do not feel sorry for companies who fail becasue they have a huge overhead as a result of the lazy individuals they decide to pay top dollar for.
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that vulva wouldnt kick off!! wtf, do those swedes make them with pressure glass lube, or splash glass lube?
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destroying the bad mpg engines = forcing you to get more economical engines
Except the people who are driving these old cars aren't driving them by choice, they are driving them because they are poor. Giving them a new car with a big ass payment along with the rapage of full coverage insurance on a new car is just a ignorant idea. Not to mention the TONS of waste it will make. The cars should be parted out to be sold as used auto parts. They could make it mandatory that the car that the car become a salvage title unable to be registered again and not waste a bunch of good parts.
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That would make sense but the goal is to remove all older vehicles from the roads. california has been trying for sometime to get bills passed to remove all pre 96 vehicles from the streets.
This is the first major step in that direction. Government funded refunds for car purchasing is a thing that will be around for years now until majority of older vehicles are gone.
Doesnt matter if people go belly up on the loans new government laws will allow them to again try again at the world of living beyond your means.
Be a fuck up they seem like they want you too.
Chris Matthews Interviews Gun Carrying American from Obama Town Hall (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGUfsfJTX88#ws-lq-lq2-hq-vhq)
Solid work
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that guy is the shit. he has alot more patience then i do. i would have told that old faggot when he asked why i brought a gun for the 8th time, "because i can".
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All of those cars were better than my car except the astro vans. Those aren't better than anything.
What's wrong with Astro Vans?
They have the 4.3 V6 in them don't they?
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I hate the political reporters they have on TV. They are all the same way they are as in that video. They repeat the same thing over and over and over. They all want to ride the Presidents cock and find people who want the same to appear as "consultants" on their show with one person who always has bad things to say about them, but they give the cum guzzlers 90% air time and cut the person off not agreeing with the President off in mid sentence. Then when they fuck things up and get out of office their tune changes and they are ready to shit talk them and say they said yada yada yada from the beginning.
Fuck politics
Fuck the media
Fuck 99.9% of the human race
oh and Fuck Rick P