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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: rudebwoy on November 05, 2009, 08:20:22 PM
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why is everyone quitting F1? some of the best team falling out, in no time only mcclaren, and ferrari will remain standing.
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No one is quiting F1.
A few month ago the drivers association was talking about pulling out.
But FIA set things straight since.
Next year 2-4 more new teams, no KERS, race on one tank of fuel, and more tracks to race at.
http://formula-one.speedtv.com/f1/ (http://formula-one.speedtv.com/f1/)
for the latest news.
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We lost the F1 race this year at Montreal. They said it will come back next year. It was replace by a sand O0 country I think...
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there will be a new American based team in f1 in 2010. It said they were based out of an old nascar facility.
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I never miss a single practice, qualifying, or race. I'm so hooked watching F1.
I wish I can get WRC on speed again that was bad ass to watch also.
I hate NECKCAR.
Rudebwoy you are in a prime locating to watch a lot of F1 that awesome. :yes:
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I wish I can get WRC on speed again that was bad ass to watch also.
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I just watch nascar these days F1 is boring to watch.
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I wish I can get WRC on speed again that was bad ass to watch also.
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I wish I can get WRC on speed again that was bad ass to watch also.
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-10 why would you watch WRC when Nascar is always on ???
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wrc is on discovery HD/ HD Theater
http://dhd.discovery.com/tv/world-rally-championship/about.html (http://dhd.discovery.com/tv/world-rally-championship/about.html)
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wrc is on discovery HD/ HD Theater
http://dhd.discovery.com/tv/world-rally-championship/about.html (http://dhd.discovery.com/tv/world-rally-championship/about.html)
Great now they tell me. ;D
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Nascar is on ESPN,CBS,ABC,SPEED, ESPN2
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I wish I can get WRC on speed again that was bad ass to watch also.
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Just to get my fix I've been collecting the Live Sockets DVDs 247motoring.com (http://247motoring.com)
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I just watch nascar these days F1 is boring to watch.
Dang, I was thinking taht about nascar. I have problems falling asleep, maybe I should get some f1 dvd's. WRC > all. Yes, even playboy.
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I just watch nascar these days F1 is boring to watch.
Dang, I was thinking taht about nascar. I have problems falling asleep, maybe I should get some f1 dvd's. WRC > all. Yes, even playboy.
+1 love the in car footage just before a mistake is made. ;D
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F1-
- Carbon Composite Chassis
- advanced Aerodynamics
- High Winding/High Horsepower Engines
NAASCAR -
- Carburetted
- Push-rod Lawnmower Engines
- Homosexual Organization Rules
- Equally Homosexual Drivers
- How many times are you going drive around in a fucking circle?
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- How many times are you going drive around in a fucking circle?
I lol'd
Nascar on non-oval race is nice tho
http://www.auto123.com/en/racing-news/other/nascar-montreals-nationwide-event-is-on-the-2009-schedule-with-a-new-date?artid=100456 (http://www.auto123.com/en/racing-news/other/nascar-montreals-nationwide-event-is-on-the-2009-schedule-with-a-new-date?artid=100456)
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I wish I can get WRC on speed again that was bad ass to watch also.
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Nascar on an oval race is still kickass. Consistency is key when it comes to Nascar... you can be good for 200 laps then fuck up a couple turns on 1 lap and you won't make it up. There are many intricacies to Nascar people write off because the tracks are simple ovals a lot of the time. Plus Nascar pit teams blow F1 pit teams out of the water. Again, everything in Nascar is about consistency and speed. There's no room for error on an oval.
How do NECKCAR pit crews blow away F1.
When an avg. F1 pitstop is 8sec. w/ fueling and 4-5 sec. w/ just tire changes.
Also when watching this seasons fuck-ups in F1 with fuel rigs getting stuck on the cars.
And the fuel rig gets dragged down the pits.
Then watch some fuel spray onto another car that then ignites fuel for a sec.
And then the drive that had fuel sprayed on him and burn off of him then continues to exit the pits and races.
Next year one tank per race in F1 should be really interesting. :yes:
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Nascar on an oval race is still kickass. Consistency is key when it comes to Nascar... you can be good for 200 laps then fuck up a couple turns on 1 lap and you won't make it up. There are many intricacies to Nascar people write off because the tracks are simple ovals a lot of the time. Plus Nascar pit teams blow F1 pit teams out of the water. Again, everything in Nascar is about consistency and speed. There's no room for error on an oval.
I agree with you on the first part. You can go 200 laps an a small mistake would be crucial. But How want s to sit through 200 laps of the same shit, in a shitty car, listening to rednecks chatter on the comm.
As for the pit crews, I would have to strongly disagree with you there. Everything (technical) in F1 outperforms NAASCAR. F1 cars make nearly 2X the HP with 1/2 the displacement.
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You can't do this with a Nascar ;)
Formula 1 Renault motor sound like music wroom pit voice :) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBvW16M2qfg#normal)
Renault F1 Engine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2iBbwocYZw#normal)
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I would have to strongly disagree with you there. Everything (technical) in F1 outperforms NAASCAR.
nascar goes just as fast as f1 in cars that weigh 3 times as much on tires that are less than half as wide. not saying either is better than the other, just saying it does require the same if not more finesse to drive a stock nascar.
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Rules and regulations define such things.
Yeah and high reving v-8's in F1 is so intoxicating to listen to when you have a good sound system turned up.
If NECKCAR could just get out of the stoneage with thier engines and fuel systems they would probably get more people to watch and like it.
When I watch NECKCAR and see fans all I see is a bounch of brand chasing sheep.
The grid girls in F1 are soooooo much hotter. :yes: ;D
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The grid girls in F1 are soooooo much hotter. :yes: ;D
I was about to point this out. :P
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No one is quiting F1.
A few month ago the drivers association was talking about pulling out.
But FIA set things straight since.
Next year 2-4 more new teams, no KERS, race on one tank of fuel, and more tracks to race at.
http://formula-one.speedtv.com/f1/ (http://formula-one.speedtv.com/f1/)
for the latest news.
Honda has quit F1
Toyota has quit F1
BMW has quit F1
Renault planning to quit F1
I am sure many more already quit. only 2 big names remaining are macclaren, and ferrari.
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No one is quiting F1.
A few month ago the drivers association was talking about pulling out.
But FIA set things straight since.
Next year 2-4 more new teams, no KERS, race on one tank of fuel, and more tracks to race at.
http://formula-one.speedtv.com/f1/ (http://formula-one.speedtv.com/f1/)
for the latest news.
Honda has quit F1
Toyota has quit F1
BMW has quit F1
Renault planning to quit F1
I am sure many more already quit. only 2 big names remaining are macclaren, and ferrari.
Honda => Brawn GP
Toyota yes is leaving. :'(
BMW => being bought by a Swiss firm
Renault not sure yet they are still thinking about it.
Remember that Cosworth is coming back building motors.
Last time I checked over half of the team will be using Cosworth motors.
Should be interesting because if Cosworth messes up a lot of teams will be pissed. Stay tuned to future races. ;D
Also a USF1 team will be racing next year. :evil:
According to: http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/f1-2010-season/2010-f1-drivers-and-teams/ (http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/f1-2010-season/2010-f1-drivers-and-teams/)
F1 will still have Red Bull/ Toro Roso, Ferrari, McLaren, Force India, Brawn GP, Williams and four new teams.
Some of the new teams are just using excisting race teams that quit under older names.
I'm looking forward to Lotus and Cosworth coming back for the 2010 season should be interesting. :yes:
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Nascar does take a bad rap. It is pretty entertaining to watch and the skill level is still up there. In F1 if you touch half the car blows away and you're done. In Nascar they bump and grind and keep going. As for the pit crews they have way more to do. 5 lug vs spindle mount, jack men, track bar adjustments, sheet metal work, and air damn work. I do miss the days where it was a bit more dangerous going over 200mph at the super speedways before restrictor plates. Also the "car of tomorrow" is retarded.
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If you havn't already, you need to watch the top gear episode where Hammond does three laps around Silverstone in the Renault F1 car. It gave me a whole new respect for R1 drivers :noel:.
Nascar and their stone age technology can eat shit.
great episode. :yes:
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I watched it yesterday. I don't know how they can drive that fast, they must know every inch of the racetrack.
They live in a world where 0.001s=1s. I wonder how they can drive at 60mph on the highway? It must be sssssloooooowwww for them.
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I watched it yesterday. I don't know how they can drive that fast, they must know every inch of the racetrack.
They live in a world where 0.001s=1s. I wonder how they can drive at 60mph on the highway? It must be sssssloooooowwww for them.
They practice a lot and use simulators when they are not on the track.
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If NECKCAR could just get out of the stoneage with thier engines and fuel systems they would probably get more people to watch and like it.
Funny, they get a 2% a year increase in power every year across a restrictor plate. You see pushrods and carbs but some of those guys know more than the F1 dudes ever will about getting the job done. I miss the heydays of the 70s and early 80s where it was about cheating and not getting caught, those motherfuckers were creative.
F1, on the contrary, knows how built a block out of tissue paper that weigh four pounds and will fall apart exactly 100 feet after the finish line. That's pretty exacting but it also throws money around like water. Kinda doesn't sit right with me. There are some local guys with Winston Cup engines dropped in old Vettes and Cobra replicas tearing up the hillclimbs, they last for years after being decommissioned and sold to the general public at very affordable prices.
When I watch NECKCAR and see fans all I see is a bounch of brand chasing sheep.
Funny, that's what I see with F1's high end douchbaggery. The euro mentality is retarded, most of the car guys over there would NEVER EVER do it themselves, they jock brand names and use someone else's "excellence" as a reason why they shouldn't bother to try. It's like talking to late middle aged kotex members with two corncobs shoved up their asses, and a foreign lisp.
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I've been to a WRC event and a bunch of nw and mw rally events its my second favorite after sprint cars.
F1 is the shit but all the teams are so hush hush and dickheads it really tares away at the sport.
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If NECKCAR could just get out of the stoneage with thier engines and fuel systems they would probably get more people to watch and like it.
Funny, they get a 2% a year increase in power every year across a restrictor plate. You see pushrods and carbs but some of those guys know more than the F1 dudes ever will about getting the job done. I miss the heydays of the 70s and early 80s where it was about cheating and not getting caught, those motherfuckers were creative.
F1, on the contrary, knows how built a block out of tissue paper that weigh four pounds and will fall apart exactly 100 feet after the finish line. That's pretty exacting but it also throws money around like water. Kinda doesn't sit right with me. There are some local guys with Winston Cup engines dropped in old Vettes and Cobra replicas tearing up the hillclimbs, they last for years after being decommissioned and sold to the general public at very affordable prices.
When I watch NECKCAR and see fans all I see is a bounch of brand chasing sheep.
Funny, that's what I see with F1's high end douchbaggery. The euro mentality is retarded, most of the car guys over there would NEVER EVER do it themselves, they jock brand names and use someone else's "excellence" as a reason why they shouldn't bother to try. It's like talking to late middle aged kotex members with two corncobs shoved up their asses, and a foreign lisp.
i agree with alot of what JD said here... alot of nascar drivers do know their way around a car, but with the new generation coming about, with douchebags like kyle busch and jimmy johnson, that remind me alot of the F1 drivers. I havnt spent alot of time watching F1, but what i have seen are exactly what is described above...
i have always loved dirt, from rally to motocross, i have always preferred dirt. i spent alot of time growing up around dirt cars, spend a few years on and off fabbing dirt cars, mostly limited late models, e-mods, and late models. spent a few hot laps behind the wheel of one but never had the cash to have my own. absolutely the most badass thing in the world to pin the throttle of a 800+ hp 2300lb car, the feeling is like no other. i can only imagine what a sprint car feels like..
the thing i respect most with dirt is the drivers have to know the cars and almost all of them work on their cars, unlike alot of other forms of racing. those guys are generally running 3 races a week, and it is your life. you work during the day, and prepping the racecar is what you do at night.
to me dirt>asphalt.. there was a phrase that always used to go around the pits, dirt is for racing, asphalt is to get you there.
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I like both series. Its hard to compare them since they are focus in two completely different worlds. F1 teams are soooo technical about everything they do that's impossible to the general public to have a feel for the sport outside the grandprix weekend. contrary in nascar, where, as someone said earlier you can obtain an engine from a team at an affordable price and drop it in your vette, mustang, etc... thats why it is call STOCK racing isnt it?? even tho the cars dont really look like the real ones on the street anymore. In my opinion, if you love the technical side of it, (fucking awesome aerodinamics, engine management suspension etc etc) formula one is the shit and you will love every second of it. if you love to see aggresive drivers, awesome bump drafting, and very close racing, then nascar is good. as i said earlier its like compare soccer and football. two different animals
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long live group b
WRC The best of Group B - 3ยบ Part (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jP9nDlOO_k&feature=player_embedded#normal)
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Group B was crazy... fans were even crazier. I wonder how many of them got smashed by out of control cars :-\
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I wonder how many of them got smashed by out of control cars :-\
who cares, they were all european ;)
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"Dirt's for racin'. Asphalt's for gettin' there."
local sprint/late model/mod dirt track to me, theres something entertaining about watching an engine with 4 wheels and a wing go sideways at 90mph for 60% of the track with 800hp+
LMAO! what fucking track are you at? 90MPH? lol they are going well over 140 here. late model blows and doesnt even relate to sprint cars. 900HP+ small block 410CI and the skill to get the power to the ground, You dont even have the slightest clue.
Late models are garbage, Big block carbureted piles of fail.
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The conversation went from state of the art Formula One to backyard dirt track racing Americam made fail. The digression is like watching mountain climbers in an avalanche. It's all downhill from here.
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Lawn Mower Racing Finland Winter Tournament 2009 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff1EGEl3ROs&feature=player_embedded#normal)
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do you get to fuck your sister if you win?
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nascar cars have brakes? :noel:
i love WRC, i like F1 O0
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The conversation went from state of the art Formula One to backyard dirt track racing Americam made fail. The digression is like watching mountain climbers in an avalanche. It's all downhill from here.
Sort of like your history on this site, starting out with a turbo bike and then the long slide into your e-persona as "the tuff"?
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ZING
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all the scandal has killed f1.
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I think that this coming season of F1 is going to be interesting.
Schumacher is back. http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/f1-schumacher-helps-sell-tickets-cars/ (http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/f1-schumacher-helps-sell-tickets-cars/)
With no KERS and 23 teams a real US team coming together, this is going to be serious season.
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I think F1 will be better with the new rules, but ill Still watch WSBK and Moto GP first :yes:
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WRC > F1 > > > > > Drifting > Nascar
WRC is hands down the most badass racing.
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I think F1 will be better with the new rules, but ill Still watch WSBK and Moto GP first :yes:
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I think that this coming season of F1 is going to be interesting.
Schumacher is back. http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/f1-schumacher-helps-sell-tickets-cars/ (http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/f1-schumacher-helps-sell-tickets-cars/)
With no KERS and 23 teams a real US team coming together, this is going to be serious season.
it'll be retro, really.
26 car grids and no refueling was the way F1 was when i started watching it in 1989. i saw senna spin in his own oil at monza and i was hooked.
i think my disdain for nascar comes from the fact that it reminds me of driving in rush hour traffic here in minneapolis- there are several rows of cars and no one is making any sort of progress to make it past the slowtards at the front of the line. it's frustrating at 40mph. it's frustrating at 200mph. i once heard nascar described as "watching a bag of skittles swirl down the toilet." that about sums it up for me.
i give their motor builders credit though, an F1 engine may spin to 19,000rpm, but a nascar engine sees significantly higher piston speeds due to the longer stroke.
i'm not particularly interested in schumacher coming back. i was never a fan. adelaide '94 showed me what kind of driver he was. if anything, i feel bad for nico rosberg, since he has zero chance of being competitive with michael as his teammate. michael's politics just won't allow for his teammate to have a car with the same level of performance.. though the refueling ban will make schumacher less competitive.
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Looking at packages for hotel+tickets for the Montreal F1 race O0
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Looking at packages for hotel+tickets for the Montreal F1 race O0
Fucking French-Canada lover.
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Rumor is Nascar will be EFI very soon, i'd like to see that happen.
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Rumor is Nascar will be EFI very soon, i'd like to see that happen.
I know, right. Way to advance the technology all the way to the 80's. Maybe they could make them run turbo 4's or V6's too. It would at least be more interesting than "this is a 900hp V8". I say pull all the rules off of the technology, and let them do the kinda stuff that happened in F1.
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http://www.nwpro4alliance.com/index.html (http://www.nwpro4alliance.com/index.html) and faster than the FSCRA cars. i think they should alow EFI in pro4. everyone bitched about it in FSCRA for years and nothing realy happened and that was just a series with maybe 100 low buget teams at the most. if theres one guy who says i'll quit if they switch to EFI they'll never do it.
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Rumor is Nascar will be EFI very soon, i'd like to see that happen.
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how can they say they are anything like the production cars they are named after with rwd pushrod v8's? I would be more impressed if they shared anything other than a brand name
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The US F1is out who didn't see that coming.
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2010/03/03/us-f1-officially-out-and-no-room-for-stefan-gp-as-2010-entry-list-confirmed/ (http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2010/03/03/us-f1-officially-out-and-no-room-for-stefan-gp-as-2010-entry-list-confirmed/)