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Title: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: theidealone on November 13, 2009, 11:47:12 PM
Does anybody have experience with these?

http://www.jegs.com/p/Jegster/Jegster-Honda-Roll-Cage-Kits/758645/10002/-1 (http://www.jegs.com/p/Jegster/Jegster-Honda-Roll-Cage-Kits/758645/10002/-1)
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: turbob16hatch on November 13, 2009, 11:56:36 PM
JUNK.... get a custom cage or you will be kicking your self the whole time when nothing fits.
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: brine04 on November 14, 2009, 01:44:54 AM
Haven't used a jegs kit but have used a couple of the competition engineering cages. They are pretty tough to beat for $250 and a case of beer for Dvst8r to weld in.
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: dvst8r on November 14, 2009, 02:51:31 AM
I have built Jegs cages, comp cages, S&W cages, and an Art Morrison, as well as a couple of custom hand bent with a JD2 bender. The higher price kits, do fit a little better right off, but I have never had one that didn't fit at all.

None of the pre-bent ones are perfect, but for the price you can't go wrong. I will be using a Jeg's one with the 4 link rear kit, and possibly the front strut kit, in my upcoming project vehicle. If you have a competent welder / fitter they are safe, they pass tech, and they let you spend money else where. Like anything, you get out what you put in. Spend the time fitting, and tweaking it and it will fit well, if you try to just throw it in... You get the idea.
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: dvst8r on November 14, 2009, 02:55:47 AM
Not a Jeg's, but easy to find to link too, I find the Jeg's and the Comp eng's are very similar in fit. 90dx and I through it in the car in about a day.

http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php?topic=2654.0 (http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php?topic=2654.0)
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: theidealone on November 14, 2009, 02:58:44 AM
^Thanks. Thats what I kinda expected to hear. As far as "tweaking", what do you mean? Bending, or just excessive cutting and notching?

Would you recommend S&W or Jegs, considering they look to be identical in price?
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: theidealone on November 14, 2009, 02:59:38 AM
Wish I lived closer. :(

(Did that Comp come with swing out brackets?)
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: dvst8r on November 14, 2009, 03:07:59 AM
^Thanks. Thats what I kinda expected to hear. As far as "tweaking", what do you mean? Bending, or just excessive cutting and notching?

Would you recommend S&W or Jegs, considering they look to be identical in price?

I have only done one S&W cage and the bends were closer to being and exact fit in the one I put together. You can see in the B pillar on 90dx's cage the bends don't quite match the hips of the car. All of these cages you need to cut and notch.

S&W are more expensive to get in Canada...  :P, Which ever one you can get the cheapest, is the one I would go with.

Art Morrison was the other cage I have done, it was probably the best fit, but it was the only one I have done on a truck, so it is hard to compare.  :-\
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: dvst8r on November 14, 2009, 03:09:25 AM
Wish I lived closer. :(

(Did that Comp come with swing out brackets?)

No, 90dx bought those extra. Makes a big difference for a street car, well worth the money.
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: theidealone on November 14, 2009, 03:37:39 AM
http://www.jegs.com/i/Competition-Engineering/247/9401A/10002/-1# (http://www.jegs.com/i/Competition-Engineering/247/9401A/10002/-1#)

Says you need to order the rest of the kit as well, but this is only 11 bucks to ship to me. So 65 bucks total, maybe some plates, and buy my own straight dom, and Im good to go.
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: d112crzy on November 14, 2009, 12:06:07 PM
$53 for a roll cage :?:
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: 92CXyD on November 14, 2009, 12:18:23 PM
$53 for a roll cage :?:

Thats just the main hope then you buy 6pt, 8pt or 10pt kit for exra.
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: d112crzy on November 14, 2009, 12:19:00 PM
ok. That makes more sense.
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: brine04 on November 14, 2009, 07:31:24 PM
$53 for a roll cage :?:

Thats just the main hope then you buy 6pt, 8pt or 10pt kit for exra.
+1

Some of the tubes come pre-notched but some you need to notch yourself.
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: jarebear667 on November 15, 2009, 11:31:58 AM
i have on in my honda. it took about 6 hours you just have to make it fit how you want it. the main hoop was too wide and we took a strap and put it around the bottom and put the plates in and adjust the width of the hoop with the strap and weld it in. it might be too tall too. and then build from there.
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: theidealone on November 15, 2009, 03:22:26 PM
$53 for a roll cage :?:

Thats just the main hope then you buy 6pt, 8pt or 10pt kit for exra.

Yep.

 If I buy the Jegs kit for 170, I have to pay 130 to ship it, it cost me 300.

If I buy this hoop for 54, I think they sell 1 3/4 tubing, 60" long x2 for 30, get two of those, and I think I found the plates, a set of 12, for like 60 bucks. So thats a total of like 175, plus 11 for handling charge, and somehow shipping is free. So I would be paying less than 200. Just have to use a chop saw and a drill press, and make my own support legs. I would say its worth it.
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: N1 Andy on December 04, 2009, 03:06:27 AM
Art Morrison, they are great, the fitment is great, price is great and the guys are cool as fuck.
artmorrison.com

heres a pic of my A/M 6pt, I bought a couple extra sticks to do a solid rear strut bar, x in back, and diagonal bar through the harness bar, I'm into material about $300, but I'm local so I didn't have to pay shipping which would have sucked on all that material.
(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi39.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe183%2Fallmotoreh2%2FIMG_0467.jpg&hash=5ff41a9bc1bc982f1568ef1df6b878fbf2f3ad6d)
added some gussets
(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi39.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe183%2Fallmotoreh2%2FIMG_0490-1.jpg&hash=b400988a915ca25d5ca0ba95da2abf587ddaa7d0)
heres a link to the home made dimple die tool I made and used for the gussets
http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2553430 (http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2553430)

Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: Joseph Davis on December 04, 2009, 03:07:49 AM
You linked to HT?  Ban yourself.
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: 88dx on December 04, 2009, 04:44:28 AM
You linked to HT?  Ban yourself.
+1
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: ochoa on December 04, 2009, 08:12:43 AM
looks a little ricey to me...proof it's fast enough to need a cage
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: dvst8r on December 04, 2009, 11:43:26 AM
Looks like a road race style cage, not a drag style cage.
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: jarebear667 on December 04, 2009, 12:03:47 PM
you got a blue dash too?
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: N1 Andy on December 04, 2009, 12:45:55 PM
Looks like a road race style cage, not a drag style cage.

why? because it has a few gussets? drag cars have gussets some times too.

Actually that IS what I was trying to accomplish with it anyways so thanks.  really the only difference between SCCA and NHRA is door bars and the 2 bars from the harness bar to the exhaust tunnel.  SCCA requires an X in the door bars, which I don't have so I don't see how it looks like a road race cage.

looks a little ricey to me...proof it's fast enough to need a cage

You are an idiot.  I put the cage in it when it had a high c/r n/a setup, no it was NOT fast, I put the cage in to add rigidity to the car, because I liked corners, NOT straight lines.  If you are asking if its fast enough to NEED a cage according to NHRA, the answer is NO.  Did I think it was fast enough in corners to need a cage? YES.

And your red painted d16a6 valve cover ISN'T ricey? gtfo
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: dvst8r on December 04, 2009, 01:38:05 PM
Looks like a road race style cage, not a drag style cage.

why? because it has a few gussets? drag cars have gussets some times too.

Actually that IS what I was trying to accomplish with it anyways so thanks.  really the only difference between SCCA and NHRA is door bars and the 2 bars from the harness bar to the exhaust tunnel.  SCCA requires an X in the door bars, which I don't have so I don't see how it looks like a road race cage.


The X on the rear bars, the gussets, the diagonal bar on the main hoop, the lack of V bars, and lack of a spreader bar on the main hoop, the additional strut brace bar. ect...

Yes it is missing X bars on the doors, but it is still far closer to a road race spec unit then a drag spec unit. As far as NHRA / IHRA is concerned it is no more then a well braced roll bar. Good for 10.00 sec or slower, or less then 135mph.
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: jarebear667 on December 04, 2009, 02:18:07 PM

looks a little ricey to me...proof it's fast enough to need a cage

You are an idiot.  I put the cage in it when it had a high c/r n/a setup, no it was NOT fast, I put the cage in to add rigidity to the car, because I liked corners, NOT straight lines.  If you are asking if its fast enough to NEED a cage according to NHRA, the answer is NO.  Did I think it was fast enough in corners to need a cage? YES.

And your red painted d16a6 valve cover ISN'T ricey? gtfo
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N/A sucks,  go back to honda-tech, and your making fun of a powdercoated valve cover, yet you have a blue cage. and yellow car. thats NOT boosted.
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: ochoa on December 04, 2009, 02:51:10 PM
cars can look like yours when they go fast .... but with that heavy ass junglegym in ur back seat that with that hidious color that prolly matches your bodykit ,N/A pecie of shit goes fast enough to worry about rollin then you can make fun of my powdercoated VC. Ne ways i got something much nicer that that dosn't look like it got fucked in the ass by bozo the clown
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: malichite on December 04, 2009, 03:10:44 PM
Go role that fucker over and tell me how those shit ass welds hold up O0
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: ochoa on December 04, 2009, 03:13:27 PM
I would say its fashion over function, but its just gross nothing styleish there, 
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: turbob16hatch on December 04, 2009, 03:17:11 PM
Go role that fucker over and tell me how those shit ass welds hold up O0

It always amazes me when i see some shit ass welding on a cage. Does no one value there life?
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: ochoa on December 04, 2009, 04:11:36 PM
would suck if that hoop smack down on ur ass like a mouse trap huh
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: superdaveosbourne on December 04, 2009, 04:15:40 PM
I hope this happens to your clown car, note the cage sticking out the bottom of the car near the rear wheels...

(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcache-09.gawkerassets.com%2Fassets%2Fimages%2F12%2F2009%2F10%2Fmcrash09.jpg&hash=a7ba9f225db755608a1f56742d9a13f7fb520450)
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: N1 Andy on December 04, 2009, 09:43:40 PM

looks a little ricey to me...proof it's fast enough to need a cage

You are an idiot.  I put the cage in it when it had a high c/r n/a setup, no it was NOT fast, I put the cage in to add rigidity to the car, because I liked corners, NOT straight lines.  If you are asking if its fast enough to NEED a cage according to NHRA, the answer is NO.  Did I think it was fast enough in corners to need a cage? YES.

And your red painted d16a6 valve cover ISN'T ricey? gtfo

N/A sucks,  go back to honda-tech, and your making fun of a powdercoated valve cover, yet you have a blue cage. and yellow car. thats NOT boosted.
[/quote]

What the fuck makes you think my car is STILL n/a? if you noticed I said WHEN my car HAD a high c/r n/a setup.  I just finished tuning the car today and i'd be willing to bet it made close to double the power that shitbox A6 makes. Is that all you can say? I have a blue cage and a yellow car? bitch my wheels are probably worth more then your whole car.  And its quick.  So what now?

Whatever, fuck you faggots.  I was just trying to add a little insight that I have experienced to the thread, if you don't appreciate it then go fuck yourself.
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: CSaddict on December 04, 2009, 09:52:32 PM
Hang tough Andy. Tell those douche bags whats up.  :yes:
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: N1 Andy on December 04, 2009, 10:00:28 PM
I know how it is on here lol...I don't take it personally.
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: d112crzy on December 04, 2009, 11:20:49 PM
fwiw, no one cares about your h-t status wheels here.
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: Robb on December 04, 2009, 11:32:00 PM
Sir, you at least removed the Spoon sticker from your windshield?  :-\
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: N1 Andy on December 05, 2009, 01:29:59 AM
Sir, you at least removed the Spoon sticker from your windshield?  :-\

not yet, but soon.
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: Joseph Davis on December 05, 2009, 01:35:11 AM
Sir, you at least removed the Spoon sticker from your windshield?  :-\

not yet, but soon.

Your continual admission of failure is like a n00b who keeps promising to post porn yet doesn't.
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: ochoa on December 05, 2009, 05:44:43 AM
I don't run a SOHC ZC "A6" in my Fox Body ?
I just figured it didn't run any more
if u have a boosted car why arn't we seeing that setup instead of the playground equipment in ur clown car
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: jarebear667 on December 05, 2009, 12:48:39 PM
my car? haha right. funny. well like everyone has said wheres the intro and build.. im not that impressed with your hacked pw rascal.
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: N1 Andy on December 05, 2009, 02:31:51 PM
my car? haha right. funny. well like everyone has said wheres the intro and build.. im not that impressed with your hacked pw rascal.

ooohhhh now insult the piece of shit rascal! haha! you guys are a joke.  How about you try fabbing something, then post it so I can destroy it.  The rascal was a joke, I don't give a fuck if you are impressed.

why would I post my build thread on a rollcage thread?  Isn't that threadjacking?

I don't need to show you faggots shit.  How about you show me your builds so I can rip those apart!?

I don't run a SOHC ZC "A6" in my Fox Body ?
I just figured it didn't run any more
if u have a boosted car why arn't we seeing that setup instead of the playground equipment in ur clown car

what the fuck is in your avatar douche nozzle?

and again, the title of this thread is "Jegster roll cage kits", not "post your turbo setup" eat a dick faggot.

just so you will shut your cock holster, here you go.

http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php?topic=6145.msg106502#msg106502 (http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php?topic=6145.msg106502#msg106502)
at the end

I'm done answering to your ignorant, idiotic comments, jarebear you and your butt buddy ochoa can go play hide the wiener on the freeway, and burn in hell because god frowns upon gays.
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: Stealthmode on December 05, 2009, 03:28:21 PM
 I have the S&W 8pt. It required minor cutting/notching to go in, but I can't see anything, no matter what the cost just falling into the car on its own.


  One thing I did that I won't be doing again is I welded the plates to the floor. The thin floor gave me second thoughts, as I burned through it a few times and had to ask myself how safe is that really? I ended up welding additional plates to the rocker panels, welded to the floor plates. If I had to do it again, I think I'd just sandwich bolt the plates to the floors, and depending on what the car was, weld additional plates to the rockers. The plates in the back section where it hits the framerails is ok to weld.
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: jarebear667 on December 06, 2009, 12:29:43 PM

  One thing I did that I won't be doing again is I welded the plates to the floor. The thin floor gave me second thoughts, as I burned through it a few times and had to ask myself how safe is that really? I ended up welding additional plates to the rocker panels, welded to the floor plates. If I had to do it again, I think I'd just sandwich bolt the plates to the floors, and depending on what the car was, weld additional plates to the rockers. The plates in the back section where it hits the framerails is ok to weld.

there are 2 plate to the rear that are welded, and the other 6 points are just bolted so it can be removed if it has to be in amost 2 pieces and i didnt want to clean up that much area just to weld on this ass metal.






why would I post my build thread on a rollcage thread?  Isn't that threadjacking?

I don't need to show you faggots shit.  How about you show me your builds so I can rip those apart!?


and again, the title of this thread is "Jegster roll cage kits", not "post your turbo setup" eat a dick faggot.

just so you will shut your cock holster, here you go.

http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php?topic=6145.msg106502#msg106502 (http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php?topic=6145.msg106502#msg106502)
at the end

I'm done answering to your ignorant, idiotic comments, jarebear you and your butt buddy ochoa can go play hide the wiener on the freeway, and burn in hell because god frowns upon gays.


didnt want you to post em here we just want to see whatcha got tak'er easy haha

and again mines better :P
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: N1 Andy on December 06, 2009, 01:37:22 PM

  One thing I did that I won't be doing again is I welded the plates to the floor. The thin floor gave me second thoughts, as I burned through it a few times and had to ask myself how safe is that really? I ended up welding additional plates to the rocker panels, welded to the floor plates. If I had to do it again, I think I'd just sandwich bolt the plates to the floors, and depending on what the car was, weld additional plates to the rockers. The plates in the back section where it hits the framerails is ok to weld.

there are 2 plate to the rear that are welded, and the other 6 points are just bolted so it can be removed if it has to be in amost 2 pieces and i didnt want to clean up that much area just to weld on this ass metal.






why would I post my build thread on a rollcage thread?  Isn't that threadjacking?

I don't need to show you faggots shit.  How about you show me your builds so I can rip those apart!?


and again, the title of this thread is "Jegster roll cage kits", not "post your turbo setup" eat a dick faggot.

just so you will shut your cock holster, here you go.

http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php?topic=6145.msg106502#msg106502 (http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php?topic=6145.msg106502#msg106502)
at the end

I'm done answering to your ignorant, idiotic comments, jarebear you and your butt buddy ochoa can go play hide the wiener on the freeway, and burn in hell because god frowns upon gays.


didnt want you to post em here we just want to see whatcha got tak'er easy haha

and again mines better :P

Crazy, you are Jared Diezenbach? You paypal'd me partial payment a few weeks ago for Drqpout's manifold and wastegate, I work with him, small world you layaway lovin porch monkey. j/k all in fun.


Back to original posting, I also bolted the floor plates in, all but the rear D bars, I burned through a few times also and caught the undercoating on fire a few times, shit sucks, just sandwich the floorboard with 2 floor plates and 4 bolts, much easier and just as strong IMO, and also passes tech as far as I know.  And use dry ice and a rubber mallet to remove sound deadening material.
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: jarebear667 on December 06, 2009, 03:08:00 PM
only if i had a porch. hahaha ocha hahah :mexi:
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: Joseph Davis on December 06, 2009, 10:16:03 PM
I work with him

Since it was my understanding he owned the business, that means you work for him.  That makes you a used car salesman.   :-X
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: N1 Andy on December 06, 2009, 11:46:33 PM
fuck you bitches, I'm just gonna go back where I belong, to a site that is filled with magazine cover cars, record breaking drag cars and absolute geniuses when it comes to innovation, fab and tech...not flux cored, nigger rigged single cams and cocky holier then thou moderators.  Fuck JD and the horse he rode in on.  And all the other tagalong faggots like Ochoa, Have a good day.

Call me a Noob, I've known Jeff Frank since '98.
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: Joseph Davis on December 07, 2009, 12:19:11 AM
n00bs should know their place, lot boy.   :-*
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: ochoa on December 07, 2009, 12:21:06 AM
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Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: N1 Andy on December 07, 2009, 01:12:28 AM
fuck you bitches, I'm just gonna go back where I belong, to a site that is filled with magazine cover cars, record breaking drag cars and absolute geniuses when it comes to innovation, fab and tech...not flux cored, nigger rigged single cams and cocky holier then thou moderators.  Fuck JD and the horse he rode in on.  And all the other tagalong faggots like Ochoa, Have a good day.

Call me a Noob, I've known Jeff Frank since '98.
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: ochoa on December 07, 2009, 01:18:08 AM
all u had to do was follow the rules like everyone else and accept the flamming for a while
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: Joseph Davis on December 07, 2009, 01:30:20 AM
cocky holier then thou moderators.  Fuck JD and the horse he rode in on. 

And you don't get that on HT?  Oh, wait, they delete everything so nobody knows what's going on.

BTW, I'm not worse than most people here.  Why are you hating on me in particular just because I have "moderator" in my title?  I haven't flipped a single switch on your account or one of your posts.  I'd suggest that you are a whiny faggot if it weren't obvious that you are a woman.
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: ryan89crx on December 07, 2009, 01:33:48 AM
I'd suggest that you are a whiny faggot if it weren't obvious that you are a woman.
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: Joseph Davis on December 07, 2009, 01:35:44 AM
Call me a Noob, I've known Jeff Frank since '98.

BTW, n00b, there's a big fucking difference between knowing Jeff Frank and being Jeff Frank.  I don't recall him emotionally flipping his shit on public forums and making womanish scenes.  You have nothing in common - it took less that two full pages of someone else's thread to break you.  Such backbone.  Such manly self-confidence.

You acting like a commonplace piston/rod setup that everyone else worked on made you one of the big boys on a forum with History-with-a-capital-H is a bit silly.  Of course everyone takes a jab at you.  (https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.realhomemadeturbo.com%2Fforum%2FSmileys%2Fclassic%2Frolleyes.gif&hash=5805137b67db00abde932177bc58b11cc93be8c2)
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: highroller54 on December 07, 2009, 02:32:20 AM
Wow, and I acually thought Andy wasn't a complete bitch. I am usally really good at reading people.  :-\
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: N1 Andy on December 07, 2009, 02:37:23 AM
Call me a Noob, I've known Jeff Frank since '98.

BTW, n00b, there's a big fucking difference between knowing Jeff Frank and being Jeff Frank.  I don't recall him emotionally flipping his shit on public forums and making womanish scenes.  You have nothing in common - it took less that two full pages of someone else's thread to break you.  Such backbone.  Such manly self-confidence.

You acting like a commonplace piston/rod setup that everyone else worked on made you one of the big boys on a forum with History-with-a-capital-H is a bit silly.  Of course everyone takes a jab at you.  (https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.realhomemadeturbo.com%2Fforum%2FSmileys%2Fclassic%2Frolleyes.gif&hash=5805137b67db00abde932177bc58b11cc93be8c2)

I don't even know why I'm still posting, it will get me nowhere.

No one did anything to my car in any sort of way besides tuning it, and helping me figure out a fuel issue.  Actually my buddy built me a catch can too, simply because I don't have a TIG.

I have been doing everything myself since 1996 when I got my first Civic, I haven't and will never take my car to ANY shop for ANYTHING, that is part of the love I have for cars, I love making something from nothing.  When there is shit I don't know how to do like tuning or the random fuel issue I cannot figure out on my own, thats what friends are there for, to help.  I would do the same for them if they were stumped on something.  I have blown up alot of shit in my quest for mastery, and i'm sure I have alot more to go.  Some people go to college to learn this shit, some people do what I call "on the job training".  They both end up costing about the same, but the later is more fun.

I never said my build was something for the record books, am I proud of it? yes.  Do I think its something to write home about? no.  All I said is that it probably makes around double the power of the shitbox A6 in his avatar, and it probably does.  They asked me to post a build thread, I gave them what they wanted.

I take alot of pride in building cars, and when I get bashed for trying to add my opinion on a topic it fucking pisses me off.  My life has revolved around Honda's for the past 12 years, pathetic I know but it is what it is.

Of course I am going to take offense when someone like Ochoa, who is 21 years old and basically a Noob himself with a little over 200 posts under his belt, makes a smartass remark toward me.

JD I got a little lippy with you because you come off like a cock sucker.  I know you are intelligent and have alot of good insight to bring to conversations, but you do it in such a shitty manner it puts people on defense mode and no one takes you seriously when they think you are degrading them.  

And I have seen Jeff make a scene in public, all over a female.  Everyone has their bitchlike moments, mine just happened to be today.
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: Joseph Davis on December 07, 2009, 03:59:32 AM
JD I got a little lippy with you because you come off like a cock sucker.  I know you are intelligent and have alot of good insight to bring to conversations, but you do it in such a shitty manner it puts people on defense mode and no one takes you seriously when they think you are degrading them.  

I challenge people to get their best out of them.  If left to their own ends, people become lazy and largely uninteresting - they are welcome to go to HT if that's who they wish to be.

The last thing I need to be is taken seriously - do you see anyone here doing so outside of a few limited topics?  Take the hint.  I'm fine with my little sideshow, it keeps things real.
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: d112crzy on December 07, 2009, 02:37:29 PM

Of course I am going to take offense when someone like Ochoa, who is 21 years old and basically a Noob himself with a little over 200 posts under his belt, makes a smartass remark toward me.

So then you think you're someone that deserves special treatment just because you're older and think you're better than everyone? And since when do post counts matter? Oh wait, I forgot you come from a website where post count means absolutely everything. Get off your fucking high horse, mother fucker.

Sit back and take the beating like a mother fucking man or gtfo. We don't need little bitches like you around here. It's bad enough we have Spiker and Jeremy.
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: DRQPQUT on December 07, 2009, 03:07:36 PM
fuck all you cock gooblers andy is knowledgeable he knows his shit ..yes his car is yellow but its clean and its fast...we work together thats the key WORK mother fukers, i dont own a car lot simply manage a car lot....Andy get your panties out of your ass, your crying like a little bitch its all in fun ... that is what seperates us from H-T...
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: ochoa on December 07, 2009, 03:13:53 PM
iv'e been on OHMT and now RHMT since 2006.... all i used to do was read now i post a little.... learned alot over the last 3 years and must seem to be doing something right unlike ur stupid ass. Just cause im young dosnt mean im a  stupid nOOb and as far as the A6 u keep harassing my ass about i hope this avatar is better

and to ur comment earlier about ur blue ? wheels worth more than the entire car and being quicker......  did u mean this one that made 525whp and 404 ft/lbs ?
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Jearbear667

or this one that is now completely repainted black completely redone that was running on M/T slicks and 100 shot that im now working on a turbo setup for ?
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Mine
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: DRQPQUT on December 07, 2009, 03:21:52 PM
and andy go do a proper NooB post mutha fuka
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: jarebear667 on December 07, 2009, 04:54:05 PM
how bout dem cages?
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: Joseph Davis on December 07, 2009, 07:33:01 PM
or this one that is now completely repainted black completely redone that was running on M/T slicks and 100 shot that im now working on a turbo setup for ?
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Mine


Sir, if that is a post-'69 302 block then I officially declare you the loser of whatever this little internet pissing match is supposed to be about.  And that's pretty sad when we're arguing with a dude who has "all motor" in his email address.  Pretty fucking sad.
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: DRQPQUT on December 07, 2009, 08:42:07 PM
 :'(
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: j.h.christ on December 07, 2009, 09:05:48 PM
i'm going back to honda tech and vwvortex where there are magazine cover cars and incredible innovation

Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: N1 Andy on December 07, 2009, 10:34:25 PM
or this one that is now completely repainted black completely redone that was running on M/T slicks and 100 shot that im now working on a turbo setup for ?
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Mine


Sir, if that is a post-'69 302 block then I officially declare you the loser of whatever this little internet pissing match is supposed to be about.  And that's pretty sad when we're arguing with a dude who has "all motor" in his email address.  Pretty fucking sad.

Ive had that email adress for 10 years lol

Looks like a 13 second car to me...woooohoooo. 

I was making fun of your car, not your buddies.  Thats pretty stupid to post a picture of your buddies car and a shitstang on the bottle when you are trying to prove a point.  I have alot of pics of buddies cars that made alot more then 540, impressive but it's not yours...

I wish you were local so I could hand you your ass.  The main reason for my build was to put mustangs in their place.  however, it's not mustangs I hate, its the drivers.

***leaves this thread to make a noob post with porn.***

I'm not going to let this thread steal another minute of my time.  I'm done, going to go get broken in to this site the right way.
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: ryan89crx on December 07, 2009, 10:56:05 PM
I wish you were local so I could tongue your ass
:?:
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: Joseph Davis on December 08, 2009, 12:11:17 AM
Ive had that email adress for 10 years lol

And you had a blankie for about ten years, too.  Time to grow up.


***leaves this thread to make a noob post with porn.***

Well played, sir!
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: ochoa on December 08, 2009, 02:09:22 AM
this is a post 69 block as a matter of fact the same 88 block that came in it and yes on spray with slicks it was only a high 12/ low 13 sec car witch is why im going boosted this summer but for the 300 dollars extra i have into this car is it worth it to almost have decent times? IMO yes ...do i realize the blocks suck and will split in half with anything you throw at them and that a car with 1/3 as many liters can go just as fast....yes but fuck it if it still runs why not brake it first? Then move to something serous. Im pretty sure that im not the first perosn to brake my shit before i build something serous. I still like hondas, im not some dumb hillbilly but i tell u what i traded this for my 98 GTI VR6 and IMO getting away from volkswagons in any way possible was worth it.

the reason i posted jerrbears car was b/c i wasnt sure whos car u were calling cheap, shitty ,and slow? the reason i backed him up was b/c his  O0 ass only has time to get on here when he is at work, his homestead is rather primitave.
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: jarebear667 on December 08, 2009, 12:10:18 PM


the reason i posted jerrbears car was b/c i wasnt sure whos car u were calling cheap, shitty ,and slow? the reason i backed him up was b/c his  O0 ass only has time to get on here when he is at work, his homestead is rather primitave.


very true i can't even drink the water.. beer only..no tv no internet.  if you're bored you work.
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: Lowerit on December 11, 2009, 11:43:16 AM
N1 Andy wrote:

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These gussets are 16guage cold rolled steel, per scca guidelines, incase I ever DO get into road racing. I dont know how this would work on thicker material, but for thin stuff it works great

If you don't road race / lap the car, what is the cage for , and the seat, and the harness?? ect.

Not hating , just curious about what form of motorsport you do participate in.


As for cars on the cover of magazines, I have yet to see one I would really want. Usually they are all bling'd out with "replica"  parts or $900 spoilers that were only made for 2 months in JDM land.  99/100 the owner lacks the ability or knowledge to create anything themselves.  Your panel dimplier is cool , but you are correct that any sanctioning body like the SCCA or NASA wouldn't tech the car based on not only the thickness, but the welds in  that cage.  Any toolshed can get a line of credit and bolt parts to a car , very very few people on HT have the intelligence to actually DIY let alone understand the principals.
 
I don't get the hate on for JD...

Not hatin, it's just reality.
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: N1 Andy on December 11, 2009, 12:37:09 PM
N1 Andy wrote:

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These gussets are 16guage cold rolled steel, per scca guidelines, incase I ever DO get into road racing. I dont know how this would work on thicker material, but for thin stuff it works great

If you don't road race / lap the car, what is the cage for , and the seat, and the harness?? ect.

Not hating , just curious about what form of motorsport you do participate in.


As for cars on the cover of magazines, I have yet to see one I would really want. Usually they are all bling'd out with "replica"  parts or $900 spoilers that were only made for 2 months in JDM land.  99/100 the owner lacks the ability or knowledge to create anything themselves.  Your panel dimplier is cool , but you are correct that any sanctioning body like the SCCA or NASA wouldn't tech the car based on not only the thickness, but the welds in  that cage.  Any toolshed can get a line of credit and bolt parts to a car , very very few people on HT have the intelligence to actually DIY let alone understand the principals.
 
I don't get the hate on for JD...

Not hatin, it's just reality.


I built the car with the intent of HPDE's/Lapping days, however I got tired of getting beat at the local night races and random mustang encounters on the freeway so I decided to ditch the n/a setup and boost it.  now that its boosted it doesn't make a very good RR/AutoX car. 

I have yet to see replica parts on any honda-tuning cover car, and I happen to like $900 wings that were only made for 2 months lol. 

The wall thickness of the cage material would pass, it is regulation thickness, the gussets are also by the book 16guage m/s.  The only thing I would be worried about passing tech is the welds.  That was my first attempt at building a cage and only about my 3rd time using a mig.  It is far from perfect, but not bad giving the circumstances.

I agree with the fact that most people on H-T pay for the car to be built, Alot of the locals to the Seattle area here that have made magazines lately are not like that at all.  Toto, Yee, Steve, Dennis and Jeff all live this shit too, and do all the work themselves.



 
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: Joseph Davis on December 11, 2009, 04:20:55 PM
I don't get the hate on for JD...

Because I'm an easy target.




Did you post your n00b porn, sir?  Because I remember you saying you were and then I never found it.
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
Post by: N1 Andy on December 11, 2009, 07:43:42 PM
I don't get the hate on for JD...

Because I'm an easy target.




Did you post your n00b porn, sir?  Because I remember you saying you were and then I never found it.

ill get my proper introduction noob post done today
Title: Re: Jegster (Jegs) Roll Cage Kits?
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