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General Category => Hybrid/Tech => Topic started by: Foowee on March 18, 2009, 12:34:26 AM

Title: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
Post by: Foowee on March 18, 2009, 12:34:26 AM: For those of you who would like to dig at the track, keeping a flat footprint is key. If your front is lifting, your geometry is changing. Here's how to stop it.

Get two center rear seat belts, some scissors and a lighter. Shorten them like in the picture:

(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fc1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com%2Fimages02%2F54%2Fl_210eb8e3f5a54678867eb53e59074080.jpg&hash=07f5310b8da0c76d1cfaa7ab2731ac4e9edb2cdc)

Get a hacksaw/whizzwheel and cut off the part in the red circle:

(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fc1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com%2Fimages02%2F34%2Fl_306ca4c151e94cd68f2818a1f77d6074.jpg&hash=f4fc1748855725913ba5c8eab2a9b82f557573d9)

Take the non-buckel end you just cut and slip it over the rear stud on your shockhat:

(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fc1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com%2Fimages02%2F57%2Fl_53557e803cd646cea60de01882bb5044.jpg&hash=f5e224e3f1638dc620e6b15bd3832e45762d2522)

Now bolt the buckel to the back of the lower fork:

(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fc1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com%2Fimages02%2F61%2Fl_329bba162e8f424f894baaf95992ad3c.jpg&hash=338744c7615806a88c52d2ac86fd116b04a7f26b)
(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fc3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com%2Fimages02%2F24%2Fl_4c2e0b53bb2a41a5a9ad06367703699e.jpg&hash=ff77b37c803f1ca80fa1010098c2a13ab9956e33)
(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fc4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com%2Fimages02%2F59%2Fl_ba5b4b4dc3de4b269d5ce2c768b8b56b.jpg&hash=5b6c002fa12f215800b6fdbe10a9e914b66a7683)

If you're a dumb riceboy and somehow mount these so they fray, tear, wrap around your axel, and send you into the wall, I take no responsibility. But if you bolt these on and get three tenths for $5, like I did, you're welcome...
Title: Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
Post by: ApexSilver06MR on March 18, 2009, 12:56:22 AM: fuckin pimp right there
Title: Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
Post by: widebody93 on March 18, 2009, 01:00:19 AM: Thats fucking hot
Title: Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
Post by: Foowee on March 18, 2009, 01:20:38 AM: Quote from: n/a mike on March 18, 2009, 01:14:39 AM
any questions from tech?

No, but if they would have asked. I would have said, "they're dot legal."
Title: Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
Post by: brine04 on March 18, 2009, 01:24:31 AM: Fuck I'm going to the junkyard this weekend i'll add these to the list.
Title: Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
Post by: ApexSilver06MR on March 18, 2009, 01:29:40 AM: Quote from: Foowee on March 18, 2009, 01:20:38 AM
Quote from: n/a mike on March 18, 2009, 01:14:39 AM
any questions from tech?

No, but if they would have asked. I would have said, "they're dot legal."

oh thats good...

kinda reminds me from my stupid shit back in the day when i used to use metal pipes to replace my rear springs. I would actually install the spring back so i can still pass tech,
Title: Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
Post by: crttaz on March 18, 2009, 02:15:31 AM: Fuck you Fowee!!!!!
Title: Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
Post by: d-rail on March 18, 2009, 02:25:38 AM: I could see that working great. But if you had one of those 1 in a million things where it locked up an axle and shot you into a wall at 110+ it may hurt a little.......
Title: Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
Post by: Joseph Davis on March 18, 2009, 09:53:29 AM: At full extension set your camber to 0 degrees for maximum hook.
Title: Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
Post by: lilpooh21186 on March 18, 2009, 10:30:45 AM: Sticky ?
Title: Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
Post by: 92CXyD on March 18, 2009, 10:31:50 AM: Quote from: brine04 on March 18, 2009, 01:24:31 AM
Fuck I'm going to the junkyard this weekend i'll add these to the list.

you can buy brand new lap belts for $10 in most parts stores and they come with new mounting hardware and choise of color. ;D

Some of auto-x guys use chains on their camaros and mustangs. :somb:
Title: Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
Post by: d112crzy on March 18, 2009, 11:36:30 AM: Quote from: Joseph Davis on March 18, 2009, 09:53:29 AM
At full extension set your camber to 0 degrees for maximum hook.

meaning, measure how much the front end lifts up at launch and then make sure camber is set to exactly 0 at that point?
Title: Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
Post by: dvst8r on March 18, 2009, 12:41:43 PM: Quote from: d112crzy on March 18, 2009, 11:36:30 AM
Quote from: Joseph Davis on March 18, 2009, 09:53:29 AM
At full extension set your camber to 0 degrees for maximum hook.

meaning, measure how much the front end lifts up at launch and then make sure camber is set to exactly 0 at that point?

Or put the straps on, jack the car up so it is hanging on the straps, set to 0
Title: Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
Post by: 1slow91hf on March 18, 2009, 03:17:37 PM: almost as pimp as JDs rear system he designed :noel:
Title: Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on March 18, 2009, 03:22:23 PM: Going this weekend to get some, I need to align the slut anyways..
Title: Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
Post by: 92CXyD on March 18, 2009, 03:44:28 PM: Quote from: 1slow91hf on March 18, 2009, 03:17:37 PM
almost as pimp as JDs rear system he designed :noel:

what? :?:

explain please! ;D
Title: Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
Post by: Foowee on March 18, 2009, 06:51:26 PM: Quote from: n/a mike on March 18, 2009, 03:32:41 PM
so do you want to adjust these so there is a little lift allowed or do you want them tight when the car is resting on it's own weight?

Play with them. My best pass had a bit of slack. After that I added tension so it wouldn't lift at all. I think the whole package is what you're after... these are just a variable. If you have a solid rear suspension I'd say you'd want some slack. If you have some squat in the back you could probably run them with tension at ride height.

Before:

http://hyperperformance.smugmug.com/gallery/6224832_phn2y#393793292_4JX7r-A-LB (http://hyperperformance.smugmug.com/gallery/6224832_phn2y#393793292_4JX7r-A-LB)
http://hyperperformance.smugmug.com/gallery/6224832_phn2y#392959547_db2R3-A-LB (http://hyperperformance.smugmug.com/gallery/6224832_phn2y#392959547_db2R3-A-LB)

After:

(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdoitbig.org%2Fimages%2FCars%2FImportDay_Edgewater%2Fimages%2Fimg_2764.jpg&hash=68cdd1c84f69d70e0866fc4786161bd8300e20cc)

Here's my first and best pass with the straps:

sunbean tiger with a 347 V8 (http://www.vimeo.com/2033458)
Title: Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
Post by: crttaz on March 19, 2009, 05:16:50 AM: need 50-60 psi in the rear tires.
Title: Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
Post by: crttaz on March 19, 2009, 05:17:54 AM: Quote from: dvst8r on March 18, 2009, 12:41:43 PM
Quote from: d112crzy on March 18, 2009, 11:36:30 AM
Quote from: Joseph Davis on March 18, 2009, 09:53:29 AM
At full extension set your camber to 0 degrees for maximum hook.

meaning, measure how much the front end lifts up at launch and then make sure camber is set to exactly 0 at that point?

Or put the straps on, jack the car up so it is hanging on the straps, set to 0

Think about the bushing deflection under power, hanging is for bad nignogs.
Title: Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
Post by: onlyflash944 on March 19, 2009, 10:41:28 AM: Quote from: crttaz on March 19, 2009, 05:16:50 AM
need 50-60 psi in the rear tires.

i picked up an extra spare to run with mine for skinnies in the rear this year

excellent write up. love the dot leagal
Title: Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
Post by: crttaz on March 19, 2009, 04:53:52 PM: not very safe since spares are only rated for 55 mph.

155/80/13's @ 60 psi, just remember to air them down before driving home unless you want some scary drift action.
Title: Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
Post by: onlyflash944 on March 19, 2009, 06:21:21 PM: my track is 1/8th mile and i will change them when i get there
Title: Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
Post by: chris on March 19, 2009, 08:08:11 PM: Seatbelts are also very useful for engine swaps. Great idea
Title: Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
Post by: jdmhatchracer94 on March 19, 2009, 11:11:01 PM: nice work
Title: Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
Post by: CivicOCD on March 20, 2009, 12:52:34 AM: that is fkin awesome.

I wish a dragstrip was closer to my house...sigh

going to get some anyways even though using it during aformentioned engine swaps will most likely where they see action
Title: Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
Post by: crttaz on March 20, 2009, 12:55:10 AM: We have three in the area.

I was see Fowee run at Thronhill, a redneck track :)
Title: Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
Post by: danz on March 28, 2009, 03:53:24 AM: exactly what i was looking for. excellent
Title: Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
Post by: Conceptz-X on March 28, 2009, 10:12:24 PM: nice, we used to use a similar limiter strap when drag racing snowmobiles
Title: Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
Post by: caged on March 30, 2009, 12:44:55 AM: Rhmt is collecting up great library of information. Nice work :noel:
Title: Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
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Title: Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
Post by: Loserkidwac on March 30, 2009, 03:33:03 PM: awesome!!
Title: Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
Post by: dvst8r on August 19, 2009, 11:46:46 AM: Bump for sticky.
Title: Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
Post by: ryan89crx on August 19, 2009, 06:12:00 PM: Quote from: dvst8r on August 19, 2009, 11:46:46 AM
Bump for sticky.
good bump, i totally missed this thread

im gonna order me some belts :yes: