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Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
« on: March 18, 2009, 12:34:26 AM »

For those of you who would like to dig at the track, keeping a flat footprint is key.  If your front is lifting, your geometry is changing.  Here's how to stop it.

Get two center rear seat belts, some scissors and a lighter.  Shorten them like in the picture:



Get a hacksaw/whizzwheel and cut off the part in the red circle:



Take the non-buckel end you just cut and slip it over the rear stud on your shockhat:



Now bolt the buckel to the back of the lower fork:





If you're a dumb riceboy and somehow mount these so they fray, tear, wrap around your axel, and send you into the wall, I take no responsibility.  But if you bolt these on and get three tenths for $5, like I did, you're welcome...
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Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2009, 12:56:22 AM »

fuckin pimp right there
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Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2009, 01:00:19 AM »

Thats fucking hot
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Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2009, 01:20:38 AM »

any questions from tech?

No, but if they would have asked.  I would have said, "they're dot legal."
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Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2009, 01:24:31 AM »

Fuck I'm going to the junkyard this weekend i'll add these to the list.
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Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2009, 01:29:40 AM »

any questions from tech?

No, but if they would have asked.  I would have said, "they're dot legal."

oh thats good...

kinda reminds me from my stupid shit back in the day when i used to use metal pipes to replace my rear springs.  I would actually install the spring back so i can still pass tech,
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Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2009, 02:15:31 AM »

Fuck you Fowee!!!!!


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Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2009, 02:25:38 AM »

I could see that working great. But if you had one of those 1 in a million things where it locked up an axle and shot you into a wall at 110+ it may hurt a little.......
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Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2009, 09:53:29 AM »

At full extension set your camber to 0 degrees for maximum hook.

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Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2009, 10:30:45 AM »

Sticky ?
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Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2009, 10:31:50 AM »

Fuck I'm going to the junkyard this weekend i'll add these to the list.

you can buy brand new lap belts for $10 in most parts stores and they come with new mounting hardware and choise of color. ;D

Some of auto-x guys use chains on their camaros and mustangs. :somb:
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Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2009, 11:36:30 AM »

At full extension set your camber to 0 degrees for maximum hook.

meaning, measure how much the front end lifts up at launch and then make sure camber is set to exactly 0 at that point?
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Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2009, 12:41:43 PM »

At full extension set your camber to 0 degrees for maximum hook.

meaning, measure how much the front end lifts up at launch and then make sure camber is set to exactly 0 at that point?

Or put the straps on, jack the car up so it is hanging on the straps, set to 0
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Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2009, 03:17:37 PM »

almost as pimp as JDs rear system he designed  :noel:
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Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2009, 03:22:23 PM »

Going this weekend to get some, I need to align the slut anyways..
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Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2009, 03:44:28 PM »

almost as pimp as JDs rear system he designed  :noel:

what? :?:

explain please! ;D

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Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2009, 06:51:26 PM »

so do you want to adjust these so there is a little lift allowed or do you want them tight when the car is resting on it's own weight?

Play with them.  My best pass had a bit of slack.  After that I added tension so it wouldn't lift at all.  I think the whole package is what you're after...  these are just a variable.  If you have a solid rear suspension I'd say you'd want some slack.  If you have some squat in the back you could probably run them with tension at ride height.


Before:

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Here's my first and best pass with the straps:

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Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2009, 05:16:50 AM »

need 50-60 psi in the rear tires.


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Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2009, 05:17:54 AM »

At full extension set your camber to 0 degrees for maximum hook.

meaning, measure how much the front end lifts up at launch and then make sure camber is set to exactly 0 at that point?

Or put the straps on, jack the car up so it is hanging on the straps, set to 0

Think about the bushing deflection under power, hanging is for bad nignogs.
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Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2009, 10:41:28 AM »

need 50-60 psi in the rear tires.




i picked up an extra spare to run with mine for skinnies in the rear this year


excellent write up.  love the dot leagal
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« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2009, 04:53:52 PM »

not very safe since spares are only rated for 55 mph.

155/80/13's @ 60 psi, just remember to air them down before driving home unless you want some scary drift action.
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Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2009, 06:21:21 PM »

my track is 1/8th mile and i will change them when i get there
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Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2009, 08:08:11 PM »

Seatbelts are also very useful for engine swaps. Great idea
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Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2009, 11:11:01 PM »

nice work
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Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2009, 12:52:34 AM »

that is fkin awesome.

I wish a dragstrip was closer to my house...sigh

going to get some anyways even though using it during aformentioned engine swaps will most likely where they see action
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Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2009, 12:55:10 AM »

We have three in the area.

I was see Fowee run at Thronhill, a redneck track :)
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Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2009, 03:53:24 AM »

exactly what i was looking for.  excellent
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Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2009, 10:12:24 PM »

nice, we used to use a similar limiter strap when drag racing snowmobiles
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Re: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to
« Reply #28 on: March 30, 2009, 12:44:55 AM »

Rhmt is collecting up great library of information. Nice work  :noel:
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