Topic: Seat Belts, I mean Limit Straps... How to (Read 38009 times)

Foowee · « **on:** March 18, 2009, 12:34:26 AM »

For those of you who would like to dig at the track, keeping a flat footprint is key. If your front is lifting, your geometry is changing. Here's how to stop it.

Get two center rear seat belts, some scissors and a lighter. Shorten them like in the picture:

Get a hacksaw/whizzwheel and cut off the part in the red circle:

Take the non-buckel end you just cut and slip it over the rear stud on your shockhat:

Now bolt the buckel to the back of the lower fork:

If you're a dumb riceboy and somehow mount these so they fray, tear, wrap around your axel, and send you into the wall, I take no responsibility. But if you bolt these on and get three tenths for $5, like I did, you're welcome...

ApexSilver06MR · « **Reply #1 on:** March 18, 2009, 12:56:22 AM »

fuckin pimp right there

widebody93 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 18, 2009, 01:00:19 AM »

Thats fucking hot

Foowee · « **Reply #3 on:** March 18, 2009, 01:20:38 AM »

Quote from: n/a mike on March 18, 2009, 01:14:39 AM

any questions from tech?

No, but if they would have asked. I would have said, "they're dot legal."

brine04 · « **Reply #4 on:** March 18, 2009, 01:24:31 AM »

Fuck I'm going to the junkyard this weekend i'll add these to the list.

ApexSilver06MR · « **Reply #5 on:** March 18, 2009, 01:29:40 AM »

Quote from: Foowee on March 18, 2009, 01:20:38 AM

Quote from: n/a mike on March 18, 2009, 01:14:39 AM
any questions from tech?

No, but if they would have asked. I would have said, "they're dot legal."

oh thats good...

kinda reminds me from my stupid shit back in the day when i used to use metal pipes to replace my rear springs. I would actually install the spring back so i can still pass tech,

crttaz · « **Reply #6 on:** March 18, 2009, 02:15:31 AM »

Fuck you Fowee!!!!!

d-rail · « **Reply #7 on:** March 18, 2009, 02:25:38 AM »

I could see that working great. But if you had one of those 1 in a million things where it locked up an axle and shot you into a wall at 110+ it may hurt a little.......

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #8 on:** March 18, 2009, 09:53:29 AM »

At full extension set your camber to 0 degrees for maximum hook.

lilpooh21186 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 18, 2009, 10:30:45 AM »

Sticky ?

92CXyD · « **Reply #10 on:** March 18, 2009, 10:31:50 AM »

Quote from: brine04 on March 18, 2009, 01:24:31 AM

Fuck I'm going to the junkyard this weekend i'll add these to the list.

you can buy brand new lap belts for $10 in most parts stores and they come with new mounting hardware and choise of color. ;D

Some of auto-x guys use chains on their camaros and mustangs. :somb:

d112crzy · « **Reply #11 on:** March 18, 2009, 11:36:30 AM »

Quote from: Joseph Davis on March 18, 2009, 09:53:29 AM

At full extension set your camber to 0 degrees for maximum hook.

meaning, measure how much the front end lifts up at launch and then make sure camber is set to exactly 0 at that point?

dvst8r · « **Reply #12 on:** March 18, 2009, 12:41:43 PM »

Quote from: d112crzy on March 18, 2009, 11:36:30 AM

Quote from: Joseph Davis on March 18, 2009, 09:53:29 AM
At full extension set your camber to 0 degrees for maximum hook.

meaning, measure how much the front end lifts up at launch and then make sure camber is set to exactly 0 at that point?

Or put the straps on, jack the car up so it is hanging on the straps, set to 0

1slow91hf · « **Reply #13 on:** March 18, 2009, 03:17:37 PM »

almost as pimp as JDs rear system he designed

bigdaddyvtec · « **Reply #14 on:** March 18, 2009, 03:22:23 PM »

Going this weekend to get some, I need to align the slut anyways..

92CXyD · « **Reply #15 on:** March 18, 2009, 03:44:28 PM »

Quote from: 1slow91hf on March 18, 2009, 03:17:37 PM

almost as pimp as JDs rear system he designed

what?

explain please! ;D

Foowee · « **Reply #16 on:** March 18, 2009, 06:51:26 PM »

Quote from: n/a mike on March 18, 2009, 03:32:41 PM

so do you want to adjust these so there is a little lift allowed or do you want them tight when the car is resting on it's own weight?

Play with them. My best pass had a bit of slack. After that I added tension so it wouldn't lift at all. I think the whole package is what you're after... these are just a variable. If you have a solid rear suspension I'd say you'd want some slack. If you have some squat in the back you could probably run them with tension at ride height.

Before:

http://hyperperformance.smugmug.com/gallery/6224832_phn2y#393793292_4JX7r-A-LB
http://hyperperformance.smugmug.com/gallery/6224832_phn2y#392959547_db2R3-A-LB

After:

Here's my first and best pass with the straps:

sunbean tiger with a 347 V8

crttaz · « **Reply #17 on:** March 19, 2009, 05:16:50 AM »

need 50-60 psi in the rear tires.

crttaz · « **Reply #18 on:** March 19, 2009, 05:17:54 AM »

Quote from: dvst8r on March 18, 2009, 12:41:43 PM

Quote from: d112crzy on March 18, 2009, 11:36:30 AM
Quote from: Joseph Davis on March 18, 2009, 09:53:29 AM
At full extension set your camber to 0 degrees for maximum hook.

meaning, measure how much the front end lifts up at launch and then make sure camber is set to exactly 0 at that point?

Or put the straps on, jack the car up so it is hanging on the straps, set to 0

Think about the bushing deflection under power, hanging is for bad nignogs.

onlyflash944 · « **Reply #19 on:** March 19, 2009, 10:41:28 AM »

Quote from: crttaz on March 19, 2009, 05:16:50 AM

need 50-60 psi in the rear tires.

i picked up an extra spare to run with mine for skinnies in the rear this year

excellent write up. love the dot leagal

crttaz · « **Reply #20 on:** March 19, 2009, 04:53:52 PM »

not very safe since spares are only rated for 55 mph.

155/80/13's @ 60 psi, just remember to air them down before driving home unless you want some scary drift action.

onlyflash944 · « **Reply #21 on:** March 19, 2009, 06:21:21 PM »

my track is 1/8th mile and i will change them when i get there

chris · « **Reply #22 on:** March 19, 2009, 08:08:11 PM »

Seatbelts are also very useful for engine swaps. Great idea

jdmhatchracer94 · « **Reply #23 on:** March 19, 2009, 11:11:01 PM »

nice work

CivicOCD · « **Reply #24 on:** March 20, 2009, 12:52:34 AM »

that is fkin awesome.

I wish a dragstrip was closer to my house...sigh

going to get some anyways even though using it during aformentioned engine swaps will most likely where they see action

crttaz · « **Reply #25 on:** March 20, 2009, 12:55:10 AM »

We have three in the area.

I was see Fowee run at Thronhill, a redneck track

danz · « **Reply #26 on:** March 28, 2009, 03:53:24 AM »

exactly what i was looking for. excellent

Conceptz-X · « **Reply #27 on:** March 28, 2009, 10:12:24 PM »

nice, we used to use a similar limiter strap when drag racing snowmobiles

caged · « **Reply #28 on:** March 30, 2009, 12:44:55 AM »

Rhmt is collecting up great library of information. Nice work

Urban Indian · « **Reply #29 on:** March 30, 2009, 03:10:48 PM »

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