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Title: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: c0mpl3x on March 20, 2009, 12:16:09 AM
http://www.infowars.com/house-passes-mandatory-national-service-bill/ (http://www.infowars.com/house-passes-mandatory-national-service-bill/)

not to pull a (coolest guy ever) (coolest guy ever) here but this shit is crazy.
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: random-strike on March 20, 2009, 12:49:22 AM
because of obama I will be able to stock pile five thousand rounds of 7.62x39mm

*does a little jig*
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: RobC on March 20, 2009, 12:53:10 AM
have fun with that guys. sounds like fascism to me... :?:
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: random-strike on March 20, 2009, 02:56:28 AM
have fun with that guys. sounds like fascism to me... :?:

your country is the same, or worse.
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: shadow on March 20, 2009, 02:59:17 AM
hes on tv right now...wonder what leno will tell him
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: LS1pwNzJ00 on March 20, 2009, 02:59:44 AM
fucking nigger.  How the fuck did we get a fucking nigger as a president.  nigger, fuckin nigger.  He will continue to fuck everything up.
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: shadow on March 20, 2009, 03:03:33 AM
better a  O0 than a (https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.boston.com%2Fbostonglobe%2Fideas%2Fbrainiac%2FKim%2520jong%2520il.jpg&hash=4c33023ceb76a785665ca5459b6909766372693b) ??
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: HiProfile on March 20, 2009, 03:33:03 AM
I hate to say it, but another 'leader' proposed such ideas - government "youth", taking from the rich & such. Guess who... :noel: Here's a hint - he kinda killed off half the Jews.

I think this is awsome, especially since I'm almost done with college. I think it should be more focused on the mid/high-school kids. How many kids in this country just vegitate in front of an Xbox all day? They could be building railroads & dams all that time! :P BTW about those  O0 and :somb:, thoes with kids that do milk the system are the same people who's kids will be put to work. If they were born here they don't exactly have to pay taxes - but would still have to work. THe real milkers like the nigs that claim SSI due to crazy shit like "anger problems" will still be usable in community service programs. You can still be angry while picking up trash. ;D


One thing to note, its community service, not forced LABOR in a factory, field, or war trenches. Most faciasts tended to use the kids strictly for that shit. This is intended to help the people in their immediate communities, not Mr Government.
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: t_cel_t on March 20, 2009, 03:53:39 AM
what the fuck, nigger should be doing work for me
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: 1991civicsi on March 20, 2009, 03:59:45 AM
Good point HiProfile
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: random-strike on March 20, 2009, 04:05:35 AM
I hate to say it, but another 'leader' proposed such ideas - government "youth", taking from the rich & such. Guess who... :noel: Here's a hint - he kinda killed off half the Jews.

I think this is awsome, especially since I'm almost done with college. I think it should be more focused on the mid/high-school kids. How many kids in this country just vegitate in front of an Xbox all day? They could be building railroads & dams all that time! :P BTW about those  O0 and :somb:, thoes with kids that do milk the system are the same people who's kids will be put to work. If they were born here they don't exactly have to pay taxes - but would still have to work. THe real milkers like the nigs that claim SSI due to crazy shit like "anger problems" will still be usable in community service programs. You can still be angry while picking up trash. ;D


One thing to note, its community service, not forced LABOR in a factory, field, or war trenches. Most faciasts tended to use the kids strictly for that shit. This is intended to help the people in their immediate communities, not Mr Government.

no actually it is forced, and its a way to indoctrinate kids into little government losers.

my kid will never do this, ever. no matter what.
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: j.h.christ on March 20, 2009, 04:21:22 AM

my kid will never do this, ever. no matter what.

+1. mine will be learning to hunt, grow food, and boost shit.
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: HiProfile on March 20, 2009, 04:41:03 AM
no actually it is forced, and its a way to indoctrinate kids into little government losers.

my kid will never do this, ever. no matter what.

Maybe I should have used a hyphen? Its forced community service, which ranges from fundraising carwashes to removing graffiti, not coal-mining nor 18hr shifts making ammunition. BTW that'd be icing on the cake - forcing some middle school gangstas to de-tag their own graffiti.
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: j.h.christ on March 20, 2009, 05:03:15 AM
Its forced

and it's unconstitutional
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: crttaz on March 20, 2009, 06:46:53 AM
Not Obam'xa law, it was crafted before he was even elected into office.

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/09/kennedy_to_intr.html (http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/09/kennedy_to_intr.html)

Anyone remember what his brother said during his speech?
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: stealthiskey on March 20, 2009, 07:48:02 AM
If you've ever actually DONE any community service in your life you wouldn't be so offended by this.  Cleaning up your neighborhood, building trails in the local park, habitat for humanity, etc. are all very rewarding experiences.  It's hard to be so bitter when you actually meet some of the people you're helping. 

My high school already had mandatory community service and that was two elections ago.
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: 97Econobox on March 20, 2009, 09:17:16 AM
Its not the point.  Community service obviously is helpful anyone who would try to agrue is obviously not getting the point.  Your government should never force you do do anything Voluntary. 
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: junkyard racer on March 20, 2009, 09:25:08 AM
I had to do community service once. Its because I went out and beat the fuck out of mailboxs and got caught. Actually, I think where I got caught was when I did the yard job and got stuck in the fuckers yard :?:

But yeah. I cant wait until some fucking O0 in the hood is told to go out and pick up trash  in the streets. Wow.

The times I went out and cleaned up my community, was because I was trying to be a good citizen. Its just what I wanted to do at the time.

My kid will never be forced to go out and pick up trash for the government.
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: SloS13 on March 20, 2009, 09:37:09 AM
I can kinda see the reasoning behind those ideas.  People spend so much time bitching about everything, how about getting off your ass an actually contributing to being part of the solution.  People would have more stake in their community if they've got some sweat equity in it.  I don't think this should be forced upon anyone but it would be a good thing to make participation in community service more easily accessible.  How about a tax break for time spent doing community service?   

I'd be much more apt to go pick up some trash or some shit if I saw a bunch of others doing it, especially my neighbors, etc.  Well, that's called being guilted into it but the end result is the same :)
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: 92CXyD on March 20, 2009, 09:46:59 AM
In some countries sixteen year olds are required to join the military, health work, or other civil service for at least 2 years before going to college. And if you look at those same countries there is less bitching about their gov't and more participation of the electoral process.

Here is US there is more bitching about gov't (free speech is good) by people who do not even take the time vote.
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: MantisX on March 20, 2009, 09:57:35 AM
Is some people gonna die?
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: marcj on March 20, 2009, 10:14:02 AM
Is some people gonna die?

lolwut?
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: MantisX on March 20, 2009, 10:17:12 AM
Weird how this didnt make CNN or anything. We might be screwed.
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: 90dx on March 20, 2009, 10:34:32 AM
Having youth go and do some community service and learn the value of contributing to there community is a outrage and should be stopped ???
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: jdmhatchracer94 on March 20, 2009, 11:02:24 AM
community service sucks ass I had 30 days of that shit. If it's not forced then I can see it as being rewarding but being required to do it makes no fun at all.
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: Tim on March 20, 2009, 11:30:14 AM
Having youth go and do some community service and learn the value of contributing to there community is a outrage and should be stopped ???
your comprehension skills are lacking.

It's not the fact these people don't feel youth should do community service and learn the value of contributing, it's the fact the gov't has taken it apon themselves to force this education and control it that is upsetting.

My 2c, everytime the gov't steps up and does something for the people that 'should be done', it creates a bigger fail in society as that is just one less thing that society will take apon themselves to do.

Teaching your kids about hard work, meh why bother the gov't will do it.
Teaching your kids about financial responsibility, meh why bother the gov't will bail us out.
etc.

what do i know though, I'm jsut another nut job that tends to agree more with the 'coolest guy ever' then some.  The gov't should be here to protect the people, not turn them into either worthless leaches or slaves to pay for the worthless leaches.  The more idiot proof the world becomes, the more idiots thrive and the worse the backlash is for non idiots.
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: Kenny Rogers on March 20, 2009, 11:41:10 AM
The more idiot proof the world becomes, the more idiots thrive and the worse the backlash is for non idiots.

It's true... it's getting exceedingly difficult for Darwinism to have any affect when all the walls are padded.  Jobless/worthless/dumb people get a roof over their head and more money in the bank than someone making an honest $9 hour. I say smaller government, 99% less handouts, put the dumb people's lives in God's hands (or call it "chance" for you atheists).

Unfortunately, many of the programs and expansions in government are so entrenched it almost seems impossible to just get rid of them... maybe my great-great-great-great-grandchildren will be able to enjoy a constitutional government.
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: random-strike on March 20, 2009, 12:02:59 PM
In some countries sixteen year olds are required to join the military, health work, or other civil service for at least 2 years before going to college. And if you look at those same countries there is less bitching about their gov't and more participation of the electoral process.

lol yeap lesss bitching. they've been indoctrinated.

mindless obongo drones.... .yeesssss weee ecaaaannnnnn
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: MantisX on March 20, 2009, 12:23:54 PM
Cult
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: 97Econobox on March 20, 2009, 12:33:56 PM
Im moving to Puerto Vellarta Mexico.
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: E-b0la on March 20, 2009, 12:47:12 PM
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This is unconstitutional. The 13th amendment protects against involuntary servitude. End of story.
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: chris on March 20, 2009, 01:31:08 PM
Some of you guys most of lived in nice areas. The parks I grew up around were havens for Junkies,hookers and murders. Also the zodiac killer as well.



YOu want you kids cleaning up condoms from hookers pullin tricks, junkies syringes etc.



My elementary school was connected to a park that had all of this in a lower middle class community in the san francisco bay area. We were taught as kids to stay away from certain areas of the park due to things such as I pointed out. No 11 year old kid needs to be picking up used condoms it was bad enough I had to see it growing up. Lets not forget the dead body from a gang murder found on the path I use to walk everyday as a kid by my school/park. So you want kids to clean up the bloodstains?



My father is a retired  Vet and a electrical engineer for the Unites States government for 35 years. WE lived in an area the best he could afford for California. So we want people who have sacrificed  everything for the safety of this Nation to have its children clean up after Junkies.
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: E-b0la on March 20, 2009, 01:31:13 PM
I just wrote to my congressman, fucking Nazi bastard was a co sponser of the bill.
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: Spanish-rice on March 20, 2009, 02:35:21 PM
helping the community is a good thing, but making them do it fucked. i dont have time for that shit
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: AstroVannin on March 20, 2009, 04:07:18 PM
. THe real milkers like the nigs that claim SSI due to crazy shit like "anger problems" will still be usable in community service programs. You can still be angry while picking up trash. ;D

They might actually be better at it if they're angry. If thats the case, it will work out perfectly, since being forced to work instead of milking the system will make them angrier yet, and even BETTER at pciking up trash.
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: Joseph Davis on March 20, 2009, 04:51:59 PM
Having youth go and do some community service and learn the value of contributing to there community is a outrage and should be stopped ???
your comprehension skills are lacking.

It's not the fact these people don't feel youth should do community service and learn the value of contributing, it's the fact the gov't has taken it apon themselves to force this education and control it that is upsetting.

My 2c, everytime the gov't steps up and does something for the people that 'should be done', it creates a bigger fail in society as that is just one less thing that society will take apon themselves to do.

Teaching your kids about hard work, meh why bother the gov't will do it.
Teaching your kids about financial responsibility, meh why bother the gov't will bail us out.
etc.

+1
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: fysh on March 20, 2009, 05:59:38 PM
i couldn't care less... I already don't pay my property taxes. Government tells me to do community service? Yeah, probably won't get around to doing that either.  :somb:
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: N1ghtM0nkey on March 20, 2009, 06:16:30 PM
sieg heil  :?:
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: Conceptz-X on March 20, 2009, 08:46:48 PM
Another reason I'm not having children.  Now, I need to go adopt many children to de-brainwash into good hard working, conservative, boost addicts.
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: b20x on March 20, 2009, 08:58:22 PM
Weigh Alex Jones against the Zionist movement. Alex's wife is a jew, he has never mentioned the issue's with the USA still supplying money, arms etc to Israeli and the control Israeli has over the government & the media. Hollywood is Jewville. Hard to blame one guy as this crap has been in the works for along time. They want us to blame the current stooge as they have another one waiting for his turn in just a few years.

This website the guy has aryan, jews speaking about the current shit storm spinning http://prothink.tv/ (http://prothink.tv/)
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: losesomethinbra on March 21, 2009, 04:42:38 PM
no actually it is forced, and its a way to indoctrinate kids into little government losers.

my kid will never do this, ever. no matter what.

shit we all buy into it and i buy in to our system every time i go to work... i dont want to, but thats how the wheels keep turning in this country. its all bullshit and they prey on peoples prejudices to keep everyone in line.. the dream is to be smarter, make more, dont give a shit about anyone else
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: RobC on March 21, 2009, 10:41:41 PM
have fun with that guys. sounds like fascism to me... :?:

your country is the same, or worse.

my county is being annexed buy your country. atleast i can run into the bush and live off the land when shit goes sideways.
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: random-strike on March 21, 2009, 11:04:20 PM
have fun with that guys. sounds like fascism to me... :?:

your country is the same, or worse.

my county is being annexed buy your country. atleast i can run into the bush and live off the land when shit goes sideways.

and people here can't? lol
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: Joseph Davis on March 21, 2009, 11:14:19 PM
have fun with that guys. sounds like fascism to me... :?:

your country is the same, or worse.

my county is being annexed buy your country. atleast i can run into the bush and live off the land when shit goes sideways.

and people here can't? lol

We can, but since theres so much less snow we don't have to work as hard at it.  The French mind is proud of moving to a frozen shithole no other race would want.
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: RobC on March 21, 2009, 11:18:47 PM
have fun with that guys. sounds like fascism to me... :?:

your country is the same, or worse.

my county is being annexed buy your country. atleast i can run into the bush and live off the land when shit goes sideways.

and people here can't? lol

atleast your in Oregon. its the people in the major citys are that are screwed. im 40 min from the washington border. its not frozen tundra. bc is big enough and warm enough that having some out door experience will go a long way. i just wouldnt like scores of government trained children hunting me threw the wilderness.
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: 97Econobox on March 22, 2009, 11:59:51 AM
So really this isnt forced at all.  You just are required to do this if you want government assistance.  Its not manditory unless you want like pail grants and shit.  In that case how the hell can it hurt.
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: snm95ls on March 22, 2009, 12:45:16 PM
So really this isnt forced at all.  You just are required to do this if you want government assistance.  Its not manditory unless you want like pail grants and shit.  In that case how the hell can it hurt.

They are currently called Pell grants, not pail.

For grants, honestly it seems like a good idea, but the problem is that Pell Grants were initially there to help out those who do not have the financial means to attend college.  So the idea here is to add even more to those handed who cannot really afford college tuition?  It seems a bit ludicrous to me.  Maybe adding more grants based on community service, similar to requirements for many scholarships, would be fine, but to cut off Pell grants unless you do xxx hours of community service is silly IMO, but I am probably biased because I receive Pell grants.

  I haven't read the legislation, and to be honest I don't really have the time right now, so I can't really from a true opinion on this yet.  Seems like some extreme shit from the very little that I have read.

Fuck, I already have no fucking life as it is.  Add in some community service along with everything else,and I really will not do well in school.

Whatever.

Fuck it back to the factory I go...

Wait, most of those have been outsourced...

Yeah...
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: MTZ on March 22, 2009, 12:48:19 PM
his ppl were slaves, now we get to even out and work for his sorry ass. btw for the guy that said its not bad working for a pell grant Fuck you ok i already help the gov by paying taxes and going to school in the end is going to be beneficial for both me and the gov.

get them fucking whores to do comminity service, and all the mofos on stamps (if they aint workin), all the motherfuckers living in ghettos and gov placed houses that dont do shit all day can do community service but people going to school so they can be something better at 1 point fuck that.

btw i think it shoudnt be mandatory regardless of wtf u do BUT dont talk about pell grants  like its something i dont deserve, this fing country should work for us not the other way around, and thats why we have so many fing retards in the gov.
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: Stealthmode on March 22, 2009, 01:42:37 PM
BUT dont talk about pell grants  like its something i dont deserve,

Actuallly, you don't deserve it, and nobody else does either. The problem is that the gov. has gotten in bed with "higher" education to the point where nobody can afford their inflated prices without grants. So instead they got in bed together and scheme tax dollars to pay for peoples' education. It's a classic redistribution that is controlled by politicians who want to buy votes with tax dollars, and school systems who will sell their votes, along with being payed way more than the education is actually worth. Politicians and schools win. Tax payers and you, lose.
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: MTZ on March 22, 2009, 02:04:09 PM

Actuallly, you don't deserve it, and nobody else does either. The problem is that the gov. has gotten in bed with "higher" education to the point where nobody can afford their inflated prices without grants. So instead they got in bed together and scheme tax dollars to pay for peoples' education. It's a classic redistribution that is controlled by politicians who want to buy votes with tax dollars, and school systems who will sell their votes, along with being payed way more than the education is actually worth. Politicians and schools win. Tax payers and you, lose.
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see i have diff opinions because i think the gov should strive to put people through college and get their country educated so that we can move the country foward, if you see thats what a lot of places do even the communist (cuba). they way the gov runs right now its exactly like a workers union, they let in who they let in, they make their rules we dont get shit, i woudnt mind say working on a public hospital (for a decent salary) for a couple of years if the gov. paid for my ed. or i woudnt mind fixing gov owned cars if i was a mechanic if they put me through school see i think it should be a contract they pay your school you work for them for a lil (gain experience) then go off to bigger and better things.

 not mandatory..

regardless thats why i joined the af so i can get out go to school and get some $$ while doing something for my country
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: superdaveosbourne on March 22, 2009, 02:17:00 PM
Higher education is a privilege, not a right.  You don't need a college/university level degree to make some good cash in today's world.  With everybody stuck on going to school, there are less and less plumbers, mechanics, etc. being trained.  Shit, my friend that's a plumber makes over 70k a year with no education to speak of.  I went through university and I make around 56k a year.  Who's smarter?
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: Joseph Davis on March 22, 2009, 02:24:49 PM
Higher education is a privilege, not a right.  You don't need a college/university level degree to make some good cash in today's world.  With everybody stuck on going to school, there are less and less plumbers, mechanics, etc. being trained.  Shit, my friend that's a plumber makes over 70k a year with no education to speak of.  I went through university and I make around 56k a year.  Who's smarter?

Typical college graduate = typical lazy middle class intellectual.

Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: superdaveosbourne on March 22, 2009, 02:32:01 PM
^^ Haha, not much I can do there.  Only reason I went to university is because I needed a degree to become an officer in the CF.  Might not be the highest paying job in the world, but I did get to play with some nice toys for 8 years (machine guns, anti-personel mines, anti-tank weapons, grenades, etc.)  Now I sit behind a desk because of a blown out knee... :(
Title: Re: obama's child labor bill passes
Post by: Conceptz-X on March 22, 2009, 02:45:19 PM
What the fuck do you think got us into the financial mess today?  Everybody being told as a child you get smart and get a desk job to make alot of money, Getting dirty for a living is for losers.  Or thats how its taught.  Myself, I got an education, still paying for it also.  Still working my ass off every day and struggling.  I was one of those kids in special education as well.  The way things are looking I made the right choice, those soft handed desk jockeys have a steep learning curve ahead of them now as this country will be forced to shift gears back into a production based economy.  Unfortunately most production buildings have been destroyed and the equipment shipped overseas.  so, its going to be rough.  I learn what I can and think logicly, thats the only way you can come out of the shit stacked infront of this country now.