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General Category => Hybrid/Tech => Topic started by: drivin96 on November 24, 2009, 02:30:06 PM

Title: coolant in cylinders
Post by: drivin96 on November 24, 2009, 02:30:06 PM
as title reads i got coolant in cylinders 2-3 .... is there a nig rig way to fix this with out pullin the head again? i know this is a stupid question i just dont want to let reallity to set in cus i kn i got to pull it and redo it again and i just dont have the time

how bad is it for the motor to be burnin coolant? 


side note:
head was off for 4 weeks cuz i destroyed the exhaust valves in two of the cylinders so i picked up a new head ,head gasket and put it all back together again everythin was done right now i got this issue
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: j.h.christ on November 24, 2009, 02:42:50 PM
how in the fuck would you fix this without pulling the head? one solution would be to drive your car into a vat of concrete.
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: brine04 on November 24, 2009, 02:49:46 PM
have the head checked and decked. Take a straight edge to the block too it may be warped from your ignorance.
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: drivin96 on November 24, 2009, 03:30:46 PM
yea i know what i have to do just really dont have the time and you never know with this place i've seen some ghetto shit done to fix stuff so it never hurts to ask
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: MantisX on November 24, 2009, 04:03:43 PM
Fail.
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: 2slow on November 24, 2009, 04:36:17 PM
the only way to truely fix this from happeneing again is to jb weld ot tig weld the head right to the block. how do you think the stealth shuttle is held together :yes:
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: chris on November 24, 2009, 04:46:54 PM
Any used head needs to go to machine shop and get decked. I dont like to use the term warped as people assume it can be seen with the human eye



Costs 50-60 bucks and should always be done. These parts are old now and getting away with not decking 15 year old heads is a foolish man's dream



Do it right next time and have no worries. Be cool with your machine shop owner and dont low ball them. If they quote you the price I posted dont beat around trying to save 10 bucks by claiming to look around etc


These old dudes are your friends a good machinist will make you look good over and over again.
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: PhilStubbs on November 24, 2009, 05:24:25 PM
good machinist FTW!!!

i have a guy i use thats old as shit, but only charges $30 and has never done a bad job for me.
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: lilpooh21186 on November 24, 2009, 05:32:29 PM
have the head reserfaced  739-3359 talk to russ tell him I sent you.
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: Robb on November 24, 2009, 10:19:17 PM
Head resurfaced isnt like boring an open-sleeve block.  They probably wont screw it up.  :?:


Yanking the head on any honda, even NSX is easy as fuck compared to what some of us do on a daily basis.  Man up and fix your ride.
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: crxvtec91 on November 24, 2009, 11:14:43 PM
Man I love pulling sohc heads, hate dohc heads :?:
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: drivin96 on November 24, 2009, 11:53:35 PM
have the head reserfaced  739-3359 talk to russ tell him I sent you.

pm'd

Head resurfaced isnt like boring an open-sleeve block.  They probably wont screw it up.  :?:


Yanking the head on any honda, even NSX is easy as fuck compared to what some of us do on a daily basis.  Man up and fix your ride.


i know it isnt that hard just gettin tired of workin on this damn thing ...its been off the road now for over a month and a half cuz i havent had time or money to fix it ...i act had to barrrow money from people and still owe them ...now i got so spend even more its just fustrating .... the worst part is im still learnin everythin so it takes me a lil longer to accomplish somethin a og can do in a secound

startin over tomorrow early hopefully i'll have the head off by noon..also ordered a new head gasket just incase the older new one i got three weeks ago is messed up 



also can i re-use head studs or should i buy new? ....and arps are not gunna happen! homeless people got more money then i got at the moment .... at most it will be some napa shit
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: crxvtec91 on November 25, 2009, 01:03:19 AM
Shit sucks when it breaks, but thats the nature of the game. Joe aka Dr.D-series blew a few motors before he ever hit 10's. The more you work at it the better you will become.
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: chris on November 25, 2009, 04:50:49 AM
You can re-use your headstuds
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: drivin96 on November 25, 2009, 01:11:55 PM
You can re-use your headstuds


thanks




also this is where i stand now started puyllin shit off this mornin and found that two of the bottom bolts on the intake mani were not even hand tight, i pulled the intake mani to find coolant ponds above cylinder 4 and also a lil bit in cylinders 1-3 as well .....my question to all is should i still pull the head to see whats up  ?
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: Robb on November 25, 2009, 01:40:45 PM
also this is where i stand now started puyllin shit off this mornin and found that two of the bottom bolts on the intake mani were not even hand tight, i pulled the intake mani to find coolant ponds above cylinder 4 and also a lil bit in cylinders 1-3 as well .....my question to all is should i still pull the head to see whats up  ?

As someone stated before, compression test and/or leakdown test. 
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: PhilStubbs on November 25, 2009, 01:50:16 PM
there was coolant in the intake? sounds like you have bigger problems than a blown headgasket
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: drivin96 on November 25, 2009, 02:10:05 PM
there was coolant in the intake? sounds like you have bigger problems than a blown headgasket

not in the actual intake but above the intake valves in the head
 i believe what was happening was at med. rpms i was creating enough suction between the head and the intake to suck just enough coolant in ... i could be wrong but i dont think its the head gasket cuz car is running perfect not sputtering or anythin  , except for the coolant in the cylinders

well done for the day got work in 20 min ill know more tomorrow when i dick around with it again
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: onlyflash944 on November 25, 2009, 02:20:10 PM
if you are keeping the car, pull head, get it trued up and install with new HG and the old head studs are fine.  watch the torquing sequence when you install.


if you are trying to sell it, you MIGHT get by with some of that shit in a can that will clog it long enough not to leak, but don't get you hopes up
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: PhilStubbs on November 25, 2009, 03:35:12 PM
if its in the intake ports it might as well be in the intake manifold. i wonder if it could be the iacv or the fast idle valve rather than the headgasket.
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: onlyflash944 on November 25, 2009, 03:37:00 PM
if its in the intake ports it might as well be in the intake manifold. i wonder if it could be the iacv or the fast idle valve rather than the headgasket.

compression test is your friend
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: drivin96 on November 27, 2009, 12:14:16 AM
well its official ... intake mani wasnt the prob gunna do a compression test soon and see what happens ill keep everyone posted
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: onlyflash944 on November 27, 2009, 12:21:52 AM
well its official ... intake mani wasnt the prob gunna do a compression test soon and see what happens ill keep everyone posted

national holidays are great for getting work done on cars.  only bad part is the parts stores are closed.
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: Robb on November 27, 2009, 09:54:22 AM
well its official ... intake mani wasnt the prob gunna do a compression test soon and see what happens ill keep everyone posted


You could have saved yourself a shitload of trouble and worry had you done this when everyone told you, at the begining.
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: drivin96 on November 27, 2009, 02:24:05 PM
well its official ... intake mani wasnt the prob gunna do a compression test soon and see what happens ill keep everyone posted


You could have saved yourself a shitload of trouble and worry had you done this when everyone told you, at the begining.


true but i dont have the guage so that poses my next problem
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: ratcityrex on November 27, 2009, 04:23:53 PM
Is the coolant in all your intakes ports on your head? Or just the #4 cyl? (thats the one thats farthest away from the drives side of the car)
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: Towdogg on November 27, 2009, 07:17:52 PM
I have a compression tester........   ;D
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: onlyflash944 on November 27, 2009, 07:43:07 PM
I have a compression tester........   ;D


so does advanced and autozone for the rent-a-fool program
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: j.h.christ on November 28, 2009, 12:15:36 AM
I have a compression tester........   ;D

between the OP and cooljnateman, i'm convinced you hang out with certifiable real life retards.
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: onlyflash944 on November 28, 2009, 12:23:01 AM
I have a compression tester........   ;D

between the OP and cooljnateman, i'm convinced you hang out with certifiable real life retards.

as opposed to the fake life ones?
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: j.h.christ on November 28, 2009, 12:46:04 AM
I have a compression tester........   ;D

between the OP and cooljnateman, i'm convinced you hang out with certifiable real life retards.

as opposed to the fake life ones?

no, as opposed to people that are just dumb. a clinical certification is much worse.
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: onlyflash944 on November 28, 2009, 12:49:52 AM
got it
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: HiProfile on November 28, 2009, 03:12:53 AM
Make it hard. :P http://www.hardblok.com/ (http://www.hardblok.com/)

Remove rad hose, drain coolant, pour, set. Just make sure you cut you water pump vanes off. No coolant to leak = no coolant leak.
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: Towdogg on November 28, 2009, 11:15:39 AM
These guys are all young guns....  They'll get it sooner or later...........

Alot of these guys know nothing about any type of wrenching....   Its my job to help them...


CoolJnate is retarded...  End of story


When you try to help people that have NEVER done this before theres some problems sometimes....
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: Cooljnateman on November 28, 2009, 12:59:35 PM
These guys are all young guns....  They'll get it sooner or later...........

Alot of these guys know nothing about any type of wrenching....   Its my job to help them...


CoolJnate is the only smart one, and hes black but he can be slow...  End of story


When you try to help people that have NEVER done this before theres some problems sometimes....

thanks chuck
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: drivin96 on November 28, 2009, 01:09:08 PM
Is the coolant in all your intakes ports on your head? Or just the #4 cyl? (thats the one thats farthest away from the drives side of the car)

manly above #4 in the head but then again some of the intake valves were open so dont know if they were holdin anythin

These guys are all young guns....  They'll get it sooner or later...........

Alot of these guys know nothing about any type of wrenching....   Its my job to help them...


CoolJnate is retarded...  End of story


When you try to help people that have NEVER done this before theres some problems sometimes....

hey nig i know more then some ppl and if u remember bring the guage tonight thanks 
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: drivin96 on November 30, 2009, 11:52:56 PM
compression test was perfect ...leak down test will get done friday

thanks to harbor freight tools i picked up a cylinder leak tester and 4.5 angle grinder for $40 :noel:
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: PhilStubbs on December 01, 2009, 09:45:10 AM
i tried the HF leakdown tester and it was a POS. i know you get what you pay for, but they shouldnt be able to sell something that just flat out doesnt work. luckily i borrowed it cause i let someone borrow my mac leakdown tester.

the HF angle grinder is quite badass for the price though. i use the hell out of mine
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: drivin96 on December 01, 2009, 01:02:06 PM
i tried the HF leakdown tester and it was a POS. i know you get what you pay for, but they shouldnt be able to sell something that just flat out doesnt work. luckily i borrowed it cause i let someone borrow my mac leakdown tester.

the HF angle grinder is quite badass for the price though. i use the hell out of mine


ill let ya know how it works friday when i find out ...pissed i got to wait till then ..just got no time between school and work to get any thin done

Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: onlyflash944 on December 01, 2009, 01:49:59 PM
just got no time between school and work to get any thin done

story of my life
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: drivin96 on December 04, 2009, 06:57:31 PM
fixed the problem ....  :'(
head gasket is bad and also the piston rings



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Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: Jorsher on December 04, 2009, 08:25:50 PM
How bad are the piston rings?

Just replace the headgasket.

If the rings are bad you'll burn a bit of oil but still drive, who cares.
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: PhilStubbs on December 04, 2009, 11:00:20 PM
Seems like a silly reason to sell a car
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: chris on December 04, 2009, 11:02:48 PM
I have low mileage jdm d15 vtec shortblocks. Throw on the freshly milled head and you have a motor that will own that y eries shortblock. They are 175+shipping



I agree its a silly thing to do unless you plan on never doing the honda thing again.
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: Towdogg on December 04, 2009, 11:20:23 PM
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Sell it... save the turbo parts..... get another civic with out a BIG dent in the the side....
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: Jorsher on December 05, 2009, 12:41:23 AM
That's a bigass dent.
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: drivin96 on December 05, 2009, 01:49:55 AM
How bad are the piston rings?

Just replace the headgasket.

If the rings are bad you'll burn a bit of oil but still drive, who cares.

rings are weak on all cylinders , i did a leak down test today and air was shootin out my dip stick tube .... leak percentage is unknown fuckin harborfreight guage is stuck at 40% leakage w/e




That's a bigass dent.


main reason i want it gone!! car has had that since i got it ... my bad for thinkin i could fix it ... the motor was the deciding vote car has to go .... gotten a few offers already but dont know yet ill kep everyone updated


Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: PhilStubbs on December 06, 2009, 09:12:50 AM
rings are weak on all cylinders , i did a leak down test today and air was shootin out my dip stick tube .... leak percentage is unknown fuckin harborfreight guage is stuck at 40% leakage w/e 
i tried the HF leakdown tester and it was a POS. i know you get what you pay for, but they shouldnt be able to sell something that just flat out doesnt work. luckily i borrowed it cause i let someone borrow my mac leakdown tester.

the HF angle grinder is quite badass for the price though. i use the hell out of mine
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: DmC on December 06, 2009, 12:20:54 PM
I have low mileage jdm d15 vtec shortblocks. Throw on the freshly milled head and you have a motor that will own that y eries shortblock. They are 175+shipping



I agree its a silly thing to do unless you plan on never doing the honda thing again.
What would my cost be shipped to 41011?
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: PhilStubbs on December 06, 2009, 10:56:30 PM
That is rather interesting. I wouldn't mind having another d15b block. My last one was almost bulletproof. It was 8k+ rpm quite a few times and 15 psi quite a few times. A leaky turbo feed line was what finally killed it.
Title: Re: coolant in cylinders
Post by: drivin96 on December 23, 2009, 12:35:13 AM
well cut my losses and picked up a new car thanks to towdog
his loss my gain

a few things changed 
suspension is no longer koni yellows but now tokiko blues
turbo kit is a lil different
soon to be street tuned by lilpooh
new pics will be up when i dig it out of the snow
 

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