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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: highroller54 on December 06, 2009, 01:53:18 PM

Title: what kind of power?
Post by: highroller54 on December 06, 2009, 01:53:18 PM
Just doing some thinking, what kind of power can be made on the cheap with a b20 vtec? Stock b16 head, maybe some cams, high compression pistons, itbs (there is a reason for these) now I dont know what will fit for a header, might have to stay with a stock type r mainifold.

No I'm not going gay, there just isn't room for boost and its not needed anyways.  I am not a na guy so I have never paid attention to this kind of thing.
Title: Re: what kind of power?
Post by: 88dx on December 06, 2009, 02:17:19 PM
200

Or you could buy this, looks like your style http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/1496785430.html (http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/1496785430.html)
Title: Re: what kind of power?
Post by: highroller54 on December 06, 2009, 02:20:30 PM
lol, I would daily that  :mexi:
Title: Re: what kind of power?
Post by: random-strike on December 06, 2009, 02:32:40 PM
1million nigga watts
Title: Re: what kind of power?
Post by: 88dx on December 06, 2009, 02:40:21 PM
1million nigga watts
And it wouldnt blow up like a Pile of Shit corvette
Title: Re: what kind of power?
Post by: 88dx on December 06, 2009, 03:00:28 PM
lol, I would daily that  :mexi:
Im sure you would :?:
Title: Re: what kind of power?
Post by: random-strike on December 06, 2009, 05:36:53 PM
1million nigga watts
And it wouldnt blow up like a Pile of Shit corvette

which corvette blew up?
Title: Re: what kind of power?
Post by: 88dx on December 06, 2009, 05:57:44 PM
1million nigga watts
And it wouldnt blow up like a Pile of Shit corvette

which corvette blew up?
your shit pile
Title: Re: what kind of power?
Post by: crxvtec91 on December 06, 2009, 06:40:12 PM
TurboHf made 230hp if I remember right. So its about time you got that Mini :evil:
Title: Re: what kind of power?
Post by: highroller54 on December 06, 2009, 06:53:38 PM
I'm goin to try to buy 4 minis this weekend, wish me luck.

I was goin to run a 1000 cc street bike engine but I think a na b series would be better for the same amount of work.

As I was putting a water pump in the white bastard here at work I was thinking, all motor dual side draft carbed zc......................... What?  O0

more sleepless nights laying in bed planing needed  :P.
Title: Re: what kind of power?
Post by: snm95ls on December 06, 2009, 07:42:22 PM
Eh, a local managed 189 WHP on a stock B20Z bottom end with a Stock P72 head on a Dynojet.


I don't remember the torque, but I was pretty impressed for being a bolt together frank.

Mreh.


Highroller, sell me a Mini and ship it for cheap.  I have too many A6s laying around...

 :P
Title: Re: what kind of power?
Post by: random-strike on December 06, 2009, 08:42:37 PM
1million nigga watts
And it wouldnt blow up like a Pile of Shit corvette

which corvette blew up?
your shit pile

oh it did. thanks for letting me know about it
Title: Re: what kind of power?
Post by: 88dx on December 06, 2009, 09:06:29 PM
1million nigga watts
And it wouldnt blow up like a Pile of Shit corvette

which corvette blew up?
your shit pile

oh it did. thanks for letting me know about it
No prob
Title: Re: what kind of power?
Post by: highroller54 on December 06, 2009, 09:26:39 PM
I also remember the "my chevette blew up" thread, lol. Go fuck up someone elses thread tittys.
Title: Re: what kind of power?
Post by: turbohf on December 06, 2009, 09:39:08 PM
TurboHf made 230hp if I remember right.


(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi276.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fkk32%2Fefssuck2%2Fdyno1.jpg&hash=29545f3a1c2be569a7ffb66a60141413f6fa66e1)
219.31whp 147.62ft tq

THE SETUP:

Block:
B20B block (stock sleeves 84mm)
RS Machines "JDM ITR" Pistons (84mm)
Eagle Specialties Products Forged H-Beam rods
PR4/89mm Crankshaft
ACL bearings
P8R Honda Headgasket
Endyn Oil Plumbing kit (sandwich plate w/STEEL adapter)
Golden Eagle dowel pins
P72 headbolts
ITR oil pump
PCT crank pulley
Royal Purple Synthetic 5w30 oil
Filtech/Honda oil filter
custom breather box setup (OEM Honda nipples off the back of the block)
baffled PR4 oil pan

Head:
P72 head
stock portwork + cleanup
Skunk2 PRO2+ Camshafts
Skunk2 PRO Valvesprings
Skunk2 Ti retainers
Skunk2 Cam gears (I+3 E+2)
ITR Intake valves
ITR Lost Motion Assemblies

Engine misc:
AEBS intake manifold portmatched by PBTuning
PBTuning 70mm Throttle Body
P73 throttle cable and bracket

Fuel:
B16A2 billet fuel rail
390cc injectors
OEM Honda resistor box
Walbro 255lph High Pressure intank fuel pump (re-wired DSM style)

Exhaust:
Big Tube Tri-Y header ("Hytech")
Omni-Power 2.5" Test Pipe
Apex-i World Sport 2 exhaust

little copy/paste action... should be enough info? but that is my setup i was running... was ok for NA i guess...

looking back: spent too much money. not enough power. cams without stock (CTR) primary lobes idle like shit. stock rods would have been fine. restrictive exhaust kills power. non-restrictive exhaust on built NA sounds like a powerful ricer honda (no, still not better).
there was more power in it (5-10hp)... but there was even more power in a stock B18C  :-*
Title: Re: what kind of power?
Post by: highroller54 on December 06, 2009, 09:46:36 PM
but there was even more power in a stock B18C  :-*

please explain that part, and did you get your noise figgered out?
Title: Re: what kind of power?
Post by: Passenger on December 06, 2009, 09:47:29 PM
Lets see the mini's.
Title: Re: what kind of power?
Post by: highroller54 on December 06, 2009, 09:50:24 PM
Lets see the mini's.

I dont have one YET Dave, I sold my 1969 mini and my porsche like a fool when I bought my house. I also sold my v8 cj7 but that was smart, lol.
Title: Re: what kind of power?
Post by: snm95ls on December 06, 2009, 09:52:50 PM
but there was even more power in a stock B18C  :-*

please explain that part, and did you get your noise figgered out?

Positive manifold pressure methinks.

Title: Re: what kind of power?
Post by: highroller54 on December 06, 2009, 09:54:04 PM
but there was even more power in a stock B18C  :-*

please explain that part, and did you get your noise figgered out?

Positive manifold pressure methinks.



methinks that was his point also, lol.
Title: Re: what kind of power?
Post by: Robb on December 06, 2009, 09:55:18 PM
Lets see the mini's.

I dont have one YET Dave, I sold my 1969 mini and my porsche like a fool when I bought my house. I also sold my v8 cj7 but that was smart, lol.

I bought my house and still have the porsche, but its broke and im too poor now to fix it.   :P
Title: Re: what kind of power?
Post by: highroller54 on December 06, 2009, 09:56:57 PM
Lol, sounds about right  ;)
Title: Re: what kind of power?
Post by: turbohf on December 06, 2009, 10:17:40 PM
(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi276.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fkk32%2Fefssuck2%2Fboostvsna.jpg&hash=e730b80ba2116c8417681e59c887572b736d7714)
Title: Re: what kind of power?
Post by: TheMadScientist on December 06, 2009, 10:27:55 PM
What about a supercharger? Think the JRSC kit would fit?
Title: Re: what kind of power?
Post by: snm95ls on December 06, 2009, 10:38:40 PM
What about a supercharger? Think the JRSC kit would fit?

If you can shove a supercharged K into a classic Mini, then I don't really see why it wouldn't.

Title: Re: what kind of power?
Post by: lilpooh21186 on December 06, 2009, 10:48:22 PM
stock b20 p72 head my area made 180 on the dynojet
Title: Re: what kind of power?
Post by: highroller54 on December 06, 2009, 11:55:48 PM
What about a supercharger? Think the JRSC kit would fit?

If you can shove a supercharged K into a classic Mini, then I don't really see why it wouldn't.



A jrsc would not fit, the factory b and d series intake mani has to be cut through the runners and turned up towards the hood. Most people clamp 45 degree couplers in them.

A d series would fit the best but then I would boost it and there goes the extra space and wieght savings, a b series would be good but everyone has that. Im unsure yet, might go back to the r1 motor since I have it but time will tell.
Title: Re: what kind of power?
Post by: Eggylshatch on December 07, 2009, 12:52:18 AM
What about a supercharger? Think the JRSC kit would fit?

If you can shove a supercharged K into a classic Mini, then I don't really see why it wouldn't.



A jrsc would not fit, the factory b and d series intake mani has to be cut through the runners and turned up towards the hood. Most people clamp 45 degree couplers in them.

A d series would fit the best but then I would boost it and there goes the extra space and wieght savings, a b series would be good but everyone has that. Im unsure yet, might go back to the r1 motor since I have it but time will tell.

I'm ASSuming it would be fwd? I would say s2k engine if it was rwd.  How much would one of these minis weigh?  I just feel like you'd want more torque than an r1 would offer.  But recalling videos of the (was it a busa engine?) powered smart car, if it was that light, fucking do it.  That thing was sick.
Title: Re: what kind of power?
Post by: Urban Indian on December 07, 2009, 01:11:00 AM

As I was putting a water pump in the white bastard here at work

I had to flat rate both rear u-joints in my truck at -21 below celcius..... It fucking sucked.
That and I had the wrong parts 4 times. It was a inside locking type with a strap style to attach to the rear diff. OMFG it was shitty and cold outside when I was doing this thing.

I actually thought it was a tranny problem because it would only do it under load.......... Problem fixed. I thought of you Chad
Title: Re: what kind of power?
Post by: chris on December 07, 2009, 01:12:40 AM
Should be able to laydown 210+ with a good streetable power range with turbohf's build except replace the skunk2's with oem ctr bumpsticks.



Title: Re: what kind of power?
Post by: Passenger on December 07, 2009, 01:18:17 AM
I'm goin to try to buy 4 minis this weekend, wish me luck.



Pics, and send me one while you are at it.

Title: Re: what kind of power?
Post by: turbohf on December 07, 2009, 01:24:06 AM
but there was even more power in a stock B18C  :-*

please explain that part, and did you get your noise figgered out?
boost of course. 10psi on a 50trim T04E.

oh, and no didnt figure out the noise... still makes it, maybe even louder? but it made 300whp lol
Title: Re: what kind of power?
Post by: Eggylshatch on December 07, 2009, 01:30:58 AM
smart car  with Hayabusa engine at 200mph (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSM_Xiw0F3U#normal)

THIS, but in a mini.  Get to work.
Title: Re: what kind of power?
Post by: Eggylshatch on December 07, 2009, 01:34:18 AM
This too.  They're easy to work on too, eh?

smart turbo with hayabusa engine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdJ84nho3_k&NR=1#normal)
Title: Re: what kind of power?
Post by: Loki on December 07, 2009, 04:42:25 PM
I'm going to go with 45.
Title: Re: what kind of power?
Post by: highroller54 on December 13, 2009, 04:08:50 PM
I'm goin to try to buy 4 minis this weekend, wish me luck.



Pics, and send me one while you are at it.



minis are beyond fucked  :(