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Health care debate
« on: March 16, 2010, 04:44:12 PM »

Yeah i guess ill go ahead and start this one. what do you think? im against it, becuase i pay alot of money for my shitty insurance and dont think its right that some lazy mother fuckers can get the same as me for free when i pay out the ass. i see on fox news right now that the tea partiers are protesting in washington right now, and alot of the phones at the democrats offices are litterally off the hook cuz they are just ringing non stop.
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Re: Health care debate
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2010, 04:59:00 PM »

Nothing in life is free. What seems to good to be true always is. Its just a bad idea!
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Re: Health care debate
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2010, 05:04:31 PM »

I pay $3000 a year for medicare/SS that I'll never collect....I could use that money to buy health insurance......
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Re: Health care debate
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2010, 05:11:07 PM »

All I can say is fuck blue cross and blue sheild and wal-mart. :?:

I want my Cigna health back. :'(

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Re: Health care debate
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2010, 05:16:44 PM »

I pay $3000 a year for medicare/SS that I'll never collect....I could use that money to buy health insurance......
Yep, they'are just gonna raise taxes to pay for it.  So basically we'll just be forced to pay for government run health insurance.  I'm against it.
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Re: Health care debate
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2010, 05:20:10 PM »

Public system is not bad when your are never sick  ;D

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Re: Health care debate
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2010, 05:48:51 PM »

Public system is not bad when your are never sick  ;D



i pay something like $280 a month for health/dental insurance for me and my kid. If they pass this bill and i still have to pay for my insurance, i will probably be on the news holding hostages in a post office somewhere.
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Re: Health care debate
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2010, 07:03:42 PM »

the answer is obvious.

under this bill if you don't buy health insurance in some form you will get huge fines and/or go to jail.... freedom right?
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Re: Health care debate
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2010, 07:08:17 PM »

I used to get Bluecross/Blueshield for $8 a paycheck with LG.  Best investment I ever made when I got a 14-16k medical bill after my CRX wreck.
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Re: Health care debate
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2010, 07:16:28 PM »

I used to get Bluecross/Blueshield for $8 a paycheck with LG.  Best investment I ever made when I got a 14-16k medical bill after my CRX wreck.

Yeah tack a family of 6 on there and we pay $150+/2wks and then I get shitty service. :?:

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« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2010, 07:26:50 PM »

I used to get Bluecross/Blueshield for $8 a paycheck with LG.  Best investment I ever made when I got a 14-16k medical bill after my CRX wreck.

Yeah tack a family of 6 on there and we pay $150+/2wks and then I get shitty service. :?:



Family of 6 wtf?  Are you of hispanic origin, is your wife a whore, or do you just not know how to pull out? :P
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Re: Health care debate
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2010, 07:30:44 PM »

I used to get Bluecross/Blueshield for $8 a paycheck with LG.  Best investment I ever made when I got a 14-16k medical bill after my CRX wreck.
Yeah tack a family of 6 on there and we pay $150+/2wks and then I get shitty service. :?:
Family of 6 wtf?  Are you of hispanic origin, is your wife a whore, or do you just not know how to pull out? :P

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Re: Health care debate
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2010, 07:31:57 PM »

i paid 10,000$ this year for jaw surgery, wisdom tooth removal, a root canal, and a cap - thats after insurance

since i only go to the best doctors the verrrrrry few times that i do go, insurance is fucking worthless to me

90% of my problems i cure with negligence or borrowed medication
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Re: Health care debate
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2010, 07:54:54 PM »

i paid 10,000$ this year for jaw surgery, wisdom tooth removal, a root canal, and a cap - thats after insurance

since i only go to the best doctors the verrrrrry few times that i do go, insurance is fucking worthless to me

90% of my problems i cure with negligence or borrowed medication
  thats how you do it.
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Re: Health care debate
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2010, 08:09:30 PM »

'30 million in US without/underinsured 10% of population'
people cant afford it = poor people
poor people = will get tax credits = they wont pay in
working people = not poor
working people = paying for the poor


isnt that whats happening right now?
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Re: Health care debate
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2010, 08:18:12 PM »

just go to the hospital if you have a problem.  tell them you don't have insurance, and then don't pay the bill when they send it to you.  its what have the population does now anyways.
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Re: Health care debate
« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2010, 09:09:40 PM »

I know, I know. You're all waiting for my analysis, and it is as follows....


-Insurance is an overpriced rape. Your doctors have to cover a bunch of people that will never pay, therefore charging your insurance more for YOUR services, and the insurance company (on top of that) making money, end up charging YOUR premium more, for absolutely dick.

-Give it to the government, and although it seems that multiple middle men will be cut out, the government will fuck you 10X as hard.

It's a lose/lose situation. Blame Canadia.  :yes:
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Re: Health care debate
« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2010, 10:16:33 PM »

i paid 10,000$ this year for jaw surgery, wisdom tooth removal, a root canal, and a cap - thats after insurance

since i only go to the best doctors the verrrrrry few times that i do go, insurance is fucking worthless to me

90% of my problems i cure with negligence or borrowed medication

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Re: Health care debate
« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2010, 10:27:51 PM »

Look chinky, I'll fuck you, and an Arab lamb slaughterer at the same time. You're 4 foot nothin, and I'm a white guy from America. Go F-U-C-K  Y-U-R-S-E-L-F.  :noel:
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Re: Health care debate
« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2010, 10:45:30 PM »

Its all fucked.  There's no good solution.  The healthcare system does need to be reformed but right now all the republicans are in the pockets of the insurance compaines and the democrats are too fucking stupid to come up with a fix.
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« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2010, 10:56:04 PM »

Its all fucked.  There's no good solution.  The healthcare system does need to be reformed but right now all the republicans are in the pockets of the insurance compaines and the democrats are too fucking stupid to come up with a fix.


durr durrrrr durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

the insurance companies support this bill dumbass, they will get massive unlimited government money DUMBASS!!!!!
the insurance companies will get  more more more more and more of your money because they will make it ILLEGAL NOT TO BUY THEIR PRODUCT DUMBASS!!!!!


get a fucking clue WHITNEY

ps, insurance companies give as much or more $ to demoRATS then they do to repubelicans
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Re: Health care debate
« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2010, 11:00:26 PM »




get a fucking clue WHITNEY




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« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2010, 11:07:22 PM »

durr durrrrr durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

the insurance companies support this bill dumbass, they will get massive unlimited government money DUMBASS!!!!!
the insurance companies will get  more more more more and more of your money because they will make it ILLEGAL NOT TO BUY THEIR PRODUCT DUMBASS!!!!!


get a fucking clue WHITNEY

ps, insurance companies give as much or more $ to demoRATS then they do to repubelicans


Lol, go back to your tea party rally fag
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« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2010, 11:09:20 PM »

Look chinky, I'll fuck you, and an Arab lamb slaughterer at the same time. You're 4 foot nothin, and I'm a white guy from America. Go F-U-C-K  Y-U-R-S-E-L-F.  :noel:

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« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2010, 11:20:18 PM »



Ima yow ming kinda chank biznatch 5'9" for deez nuts biznatch, you'll be lookin up at me shorty, mr 5'3"



I'm also 5'9", or 69" as the chAIR Force called it. The problem is I've got at least 40lbs on you, even at under 200. Set it up on Bully Beatdown and we'll see who the Charley is, you slant eyed, sun dried fish eating gook.
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« Reply #25 on: March 16, 2010, 11:41:09 PM »



Ima yow ming kinda chank biznatch 5'9" for deez nuts biznatch, you'll be lookin up at me shorty, mr 5'3"



I'm also 5'9", or 69" as the chAIR Force called it. The problem is I've got at least 40lbs on you, even at under 200. Set it up on Bully Beatdown and we'll see who the Charley is, you slant eyed, sun dried fish eating gook.

Listen here round eye, while you may have 40lbs of beluga blubber on me, I am  made up 100% of pure CDM sneaky tricksterness, and I will undercut and trick you into sucking your own wang until you break your back.  Then we'll put tape on your eyes and you can ge a wheelchair and you'll be steven brokebackwangsucka
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« Reply #26 on: March 16, 2010, 11:43:10 PM »

durr durrrrr durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

the insurance companies support this bill dumbass, they will get massive unlimited government money DUMBASS!!!!!
the insurance companies will get  more more more more and more of your money because they will make it ILLEGAL NOT TO BUY THEIR PRODUCT DUMBASS!!!!!


get a fucking clue WHITNEY

ps, insurance companies give as much or more $ to demoRATS then they do to repubelicans


Lol, go back to your tea party rally fag

get a clue
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Re: Health care debate
« Reply #27 on: March 17, 2010, 08:54:32 AM »

Public system is not bad when your are never sick  ;D



i pay something like $280 a month for health/dental insurance for me and my kid. If they pass this bill and i still have to pay for my insurance, i will probably be on the news holding hostages in a post office somewhere.

You think that's a lot?  You're fucking high dude.  Decent health insurance for a regular person is $500-800.  Dental is another $300/month.  Count your blessings you get discounted rates.

My opinion is, something needs to be done to allow individuals to get health insurance for a reasonable rate.  People working in small businesses should not have to pay $500/month for mediocre health care.  It's just too much money.  I refuse to get health insurance at $500/month.  As a result, I'm probably going to sell my motorcycle.

It's also BS the government thinks its okay to make a small business owner have to pay $500/month for some $8/hr employee.  Make the price of health insurance reasonable(somehow) and then let people buy it if they want.  If they don't buy, get hurt, and can't afford to pay, kill them.  People can't beg for cheap healthcare and when it's available not take advantage of it because "it's still too expensive".  Those people are leaches and should be killed.
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« Reply #28 on: March 17, 2010, 09:18:12 AM »

there is a whole lot going on than just "People cant afford it so we will pay for them" For instance right now if you don't have a policy for longer than 60 days then you have to re apply for one.  so lets say you are working somewhere for 5 or 30 years doesn't really matter, and well the Ford Plant, or Heating place, or Call Center or whatever and you get diagnosed with Diabetes and then the place of business closes sometime after that. now you have to Find another job in like 60 days or you have to reapply for health care which means your Diatebets will be a pre existing condition and no insurance company will pay for it or touch it.  Now your other option right now is cobra which bases itself off what you used to pay at your job.  Most of the time you pay 100% of what your insurance did.  For me that number was 1360 a month.  I would have to pay literally a second mortgage to cover my wife and son or my 7 month old doesn't have health care until 60 days after i find a new job.

Now thankfully i don't have any pre existing conditions, but my wife does so if she were layed off then it would be a scramble to find her a job and get her covered before that 60 day window to make sure her issues are still covered.

I cant afford a Second mortgage and all of that bullshit is beyond my control.  I cant help the fact that my wife has an issue, cant help my job closing, and i cant control the rates for keeping my kid covered.

THAT is why we need to do something.  not so some poor dude on food stamps can get lipo or something like some of you make it seem.
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« Reply #29 on: March 17, 2010, 09:26:35 AM »

Now what they got in there isn't the best plan for sure, but there are large aspects that need to be addressed.  Im not saying the way they are going about it is the best but goddamn this shit is stupid and something needs to give.  I agree with what RS says to a degree, the answer is NOT letting the Gov just steam roll that shit. 

I don't know what the best answer is but when i learned that it would be better for me to either A) go apply for a personal insurance policy and deal with an astronomical bill or B) try to get a Job ANYWHERE that would have an insurance policey so im covered.....I realized that shit is fucked.
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