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Best bang-for-buck ring compressor
« on: March 22, 2010, 10:41:58 PM »

So, got a new block/head on the way, will be taking the entire rotating assembly and slapping it into the new block after I get it bored/honed/surfaced.

Never installed pistons and paid the shop to do it the first time, but after somewhat completing a swap I feel a bit more confident that I could do it...  Just need some opinions on what a good ring compressor consists of, and any other tips on installing them.

Would any of you reuse bearings/rings that ran in an engine for maybe 20 minutes total, that had oil/coolant mix?
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Re: Best bang-for-buck spring compressor
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2010, 11:01:17 PM »

ive used zipties as well.... 



work great
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Re: Best bang-for-buck ring compressor
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2010, 11:02:13 PM »

Shit, my mistake, I meant RING compressors :-X
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Re: Best bang-for-buck ring compressor
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2010, 11:09:22 PM »

The cheapest one will get the job done just fine.

Shop around, nog.

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Re: Best bang-for-buck ring compressor
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2010, 11:16:02 PM »

The bearings are basically new. If everything clearnce wise is cool rock them. Ignore any advice from someone who wont spend 2 dollars on food but thinks bearings with less than an hour of run time are trash.
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Re: Best bang-for-buck ring compressor
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2010, 11:25:00 PM »

The bearings are basically new. If everything clearnce wise is cool rock them. Ignore any advice from someone who wont spend 2 dollars on food but thinks bearings with less than an hour of run time are trash.

Agreed.  You can pretty much ignore any advice Hot Pocket Mike gives when it comes to cars.

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Re: Best bang-for-buck ring compressor
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2010, 11:30:45 PM »

I've re-used bearings in probably 5 rebuilds. If they have little to no miles on them, and don't have any scarring, they will be fine.

As for ring compressors, I rock a cheap one I bought at Napa. Not the easiest to use, but works fine.
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Re: Best bang-for-buck ring compressor
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2010, 12:16:58 AM »

Not a shitton of oil in the coolant, mostly the oil was pumped into the coolant lines and only a little coolant seeped into the oil (last check).

I'll give the rings and bearings a go, as long as I don't see any noticeable damage.

I AM broke.  Had to borrow money for the block/head :-\
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Re: Best bang-for-buck ring compressor
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2010, 12:17:40 AM »

So your logic here is if you had a blown headgasket your bearings are trashed. Ok dr.hot pocket.
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Re: Best bang-for-buck ring compressor
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2010, 12:26:57 AM »

On a side note, what can I do with an old A6 head, fucked Y8 crank, LS crank, cracked LS block that I have laying around?  Does anywhere pay money to scrap them?
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Re: Best bang-for-buck ring compressor
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2010, 12:30:08 AM »

Ls cranks are actually worth money. atleast 50 bucks.
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Re: Best bang-for-buck ring compressor
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2010, 01:59:28 AM »

Just use the rent-a-tool crap at auto zone. No point in buying a ring compressor you would just loose before you ever needed again

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Re: Best bang-for-buck ring compressor
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2010, 02:20:49 AM »

There's nothing wrong with re-using bearings as long as they are ok and give you correct clearance. As for the rings, I'd just buy new, they are cheap anyway.
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Re: Best bang-for-buck ring compressor
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2010, 10:01:03 AM »

I have used worm gear clamps to compress ring, they work in a pinch.

Just do not over compress them. ;D

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Re: Best bang-for-buck ring compressor
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2010, 11:16:37 AM »

I have used worm gear clamps to compress ring, they work in a pinch.

Just do not over compress them. ;D



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Re: Best bang-for-buck ring compressor
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2010, 12:02:08 PM »

I have used worm gear clamps to compress ring, they work in a pinch.

Just do not over compress them. ;D



holy fuck.  gangsta nigga. 
Hey it worked I had to lube the clamp a bit to get it piston and rings in but it worked.

Sidenote: use a clamp wise enough to cover all the rings or you will be pissed. :?:

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Re: Best bang-for-buck ring compressor
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2010, 12:42:09 PM »

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There is no such thing as too much boost. You could have too little rod, piston, or sleeve. But never too much boost.

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Re: Best bang-for-buck ring compressor
« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2010, 10:58:54 PM »

Holy shit, Pat.

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Re: Best bang-for-buck ring compressor
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2010, 11:19:11 PM »

Ive always used these,


Or I use a wooden clothespin.

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Re: Best bang-for-buck ring compressor
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2010, 11:43:40 PM »

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Re: Best bang-for-buck ring compressor
« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2010, 12:06:28 AM »

Yeah I used that before on bigger bore engines, when I work on 75mm borte engines I kept finding too large or too small oil filter wrenches.

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Re: Best bang-for-buck ring compressor
« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2010, 01:16:23 AM »

best bang for buck ring compressor???




used thrust washers.

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Re: Best bang-for-buck ring compressor
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Re: Best bang-for-buck ring compressor
« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2010, 09:32:45 AM »

I know my dad used a food can to install pistons. You just need to find the good size  :mexi:
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Re: Best bang-for-buck ring compressor
« Reply #24 on: March 26, 2010, 10:25:16 AM »

Just a heads up jorsher:

Make sure you clock the rings right
Set the ring cap

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Re: Best bang-for-buck ring compressor
« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2010, 12:42:18 PM »

The one ratcityrex posted is less then 10bux at sears.
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Re: Best bang-for-buck ring compressor
« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2010, 04:43:40 PM »

Cool, this thread is full of ingenuity.

I'm just going to reuse my rings.  I think with only a mile of load and the rest of the 20ish minutes of running it was idling, should be fine.  Gap should still be good then.
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« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2010, 05:15:23 PM »

Cool, this thread is full of ingenuity.

I'm just going to reuse my rings.  I think with only a mile of load and the rest of the 20ish minutes of running it was idling, should be fine.  Gap should still be good then.
I reused the rings on my motor, and I believe that's what fucked it up (see my thread titled "shit"). I don't know why they failed, but from now on I'll just change them.
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« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2010, 06:03:19 PM »

Cool, this thread is full of ingenuity.

I'm just going to reuse my rings.  I think with only a mile of load and the rest of the 20ish minutes of running it was idling, should be fine.  Gap should still be good then.
I reused the rings on my motor, and I believe that's what fucked it up (see my thread titled "shit"). I don't know why they failed, but from now on I'll just change them.

Shit.  I'm assuming the minor variations between the cylinders may be enough to not be able to reuse them... but how many miles did you have on them when you tried to reuse them?  Not trying to cheap out, I'm just broke and trying to cut corners where possible...
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« Reply #29 on: March 28, 2010, 06:10:51 PM »

Cool, this thread is full of ingenuity.

I'm just going to reuse my rings.  I think with only a mile of load and the rest of the 20ish minutes of running it was idling, should be fine.  Gap should still be good then.
I reused the rings on my motor, and I believe that's what fucked it up (see my thread titled "shit"). I don't know why they failed, but from now on I'll just change them.

Shit.  I'm assuming the minor variations between the cylinders may be enough to not be able to reuse them... but how many miles did you have on them when you tried to reuse them?  Not trying to cheap out, I'm just broke and trying to cut corners where possible...

The rings had 80k on the, it was a stock motor that had good compression/burned no oil. Still has good compression, just burns REALLY bad. By the time I add up gaskets, sealant, coolant, oil, my time, etc, I saved like 5% of the cost of the motor by not changing the rings. I should have done it, and now I get to start over for trying to save 5%.
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