Topic: Windows 7...kinda looks like vista (Read 16380 times)

crxtuner · « **on:** April 07, 2009, 04:57:01 AM »

So i went a grabbed the latest build of window 7 online and partitioned my drive to run both the new os and keep my current vista ultimate sp1. After having used vista home/personal(whatever it is) i can say that on a laptop with 4gb of ram and a dual core 2.2ghz processor the amount of use i could get out of the battery was considerably less then when i took my old copy of xp home and threw it on there. That also being compared to vista with it's "Power Saver mode" aka- zero backlight and cut processor power. I now have looked at windows 7 and i will agree that it has the same nice look that vista does but now with a quite useful dock at the bottom that didn't seem to clash with my normal computing habits, in fact i will go as far to say that i found the programs being left on the dock was actually more productive. The quickness in which this kernel is able to navigate is far superior to the original one that was tossed in vista. So because Spiker is going to hop in this thread i want to pose him a question. This is just a modified kernel of vista right? Also, i know that Microsoft is in it for the money just like every other business in the world(xenocron) but for such a large company to release such a shitty product that robs resources and is killer on laptops and their power sources, i almost feel like a copy of windows 7 or quite possible the sp2 of vista (although i am currently running the beta release) or following should have some modification on how the kernel behaves comparable to win 7. Either the fore mentioned or a nice little windows 7 disc offered to current owners of vista.

*Cliffs*
-Windows 7 is a refined kernel of vista
-I hope those boys in redmond are willing to fix their mistakes and make it up to their customer base with no cost upgrades to win 7

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #1 on:** April 07, 2009, 07:46:51 AM »

Dude plays with xbox's, your mother's overdeveloped clit, and media center. He doesn't know any of that shit.

Sinister · « **Reply #2 on:** April 07, 2009, 08:11:52 AM »

Think of 7 as a super awesome non gay version of Vista. It'd be like reforming Richard Simmons into Chuck Norris.

I enjoyed it when I had it on my laptop, but I just can't let go of my XP

Kain · « **Reply #3 on:** April 07, 2009, 09:12:08 AM »

they took the vista kernel, tore it down, and literally rebuilt it. they just didnt take a car and strip it down to bare essentials. they took the engine and build a new frame and everything around it. kinda.

First of all, the way it manages processes is WAY different than in vista. in vista it loads them one at a time where as 7 lodas them all at once durring startup making it a whole bunch faster.

i could go on and on about it, but frankly, i wont. it works better than vista, and i seem to like it more than my xpsp3 build.

Teg2boo · « **Reply #4 on:** April 07, 2009, 09:12:48 AM »

Vista is the Windows ME of Windows 7...

Colin · « **Reply #5 on:** April 07, 2009, 09:17:56 AM »

How does one get this Windows 7? Is the beta testing over?

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #6 on:** April 07, 2009, 09:19:51 AM »

Quote from: Kain on April 07, 2009, 09:12:08 AM

First of all, the way it manages processes is WAY different than in vista. in vista it loads them one at a time where as 7 lodas them all at once durring startup making it a whole bunch faster.

You're going to have to explain that one to me, because it's impossible for a single core/CPU to load more than one thing at a time.

Teg2boo · « **Reply #7 on:** April 07, 2009, 09:31:11 AM »

They use cpu cycle alternatively. It looks like they are running at the same time, but its not physicaly possible

We call that multitasking

Windows and linux use a system of priorities to know which code they will execute at first.

If they all have the same priority, they will load alternatively (first in first out I think) base on cpu cycle.

BoostedSchemes · « **Reply #8 on:** April 07, 2009, 09:33:23 AM »

the memory management is exceptional
on startup my XP would use about 150mb less once both systems were tweaked to my needs

once i would load fallout 3 on both systems win7 uses 200mb less
load even more programs in the background and the gap gets bigger

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #9 on:** April 07, 2009, 10:23:47 AM »

Quote from: Teg2boo on April 07, 2009, 09:31:11 AM

They use cpu cycle alternatively. It looks like they are running at the same time, but its not physicaly possible

We call that multitasking Windows and linux use a system of priorities to know which code they will execute at first.

If they all have the same priority, they will load alternatively (first in first out I think) base on cpu cycle.

Yes, Francis, we know.

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #10 on:** April 07, 2009, 10:26:32 AM »

Jorsher · « **Reply #11 on:** April 07, 2009, 10:46:58 AM »

Quote from: Teg2boo on April 07, 2009, 09:31:11 AM

It looks like they are running at the same time, but its not physicaly possible

Multi-core

Quote from: Colin on April 07, 2009, 09:17:56 AM

How does one get this Windows 7? Is the beta testing over?

Go to a torrent site and search "win 7 7068."

crxvtec91 · « **Reply #12 on:** April 07, 2009, 11:30:26 AM »

Ubuntu>window

bigdaddyvtec · « **Reply #13 on:** April 07, 2009, 11:41:18 AM »

7 is sexy. Fuck Ubuntu

lol

Jorsher · « **Reply #14 on:** April 07, 2009, 12:58:51 PM »

1. Click hold title bar, shake to minimize all other windows
2. win + left/right to maximize a window to that side of the screen
3. Center click on icons in the task bar to open another instance

A few little nice features

crxtuner · « **Reply #15 on:** April 07, 2009, 01:50:17 PM »

Anyone know when build 7068 is set to nuke itself?

Jorsher · « **Reply #16 on:** April 07, 2009, 02:18:51 PM »

Quote from: crxtuner on April 07, 2009, 01:50:17 PM

Anyone know when build 7068 is set to nuke itself?

August 1st is what I heard, but there's always a patch to fix that.

Public release candidate is supposed to be out within the next month.

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #17 on:** April 07, 2009, 04:26:27 PM »

Spiker told me he can hook up a legit copy, the day after it comes out for $20 more than MSRP. I'm all over that shit like white on rice.

BoostedSchemes · « **Reply #18 on:** April 07, 2009, 05:03:34 PM »

i hate it when i cant tell if people are joking or not because i feel like there could be information that i am missing that could make a statement serious or a joke

Jorsher · « **Reply #19 on:** April 07, 2009, 07:34:21 PM »

Quote from: BoostedSchemes on April 07, 2009, 05:03:34 PM

i hate it when i cant tell if people are joking or not because i feel like there could be information that i am missing that could make a statement serious or a joke

wat?

crxvtec91 · « **Reply #20 on:** April 07, 2009, 07:35:45 PM »

Quote from: bigdaddyvtec on April 07, 2009, 11:41:18 AM

7 is sexy. Fuck Ubuntu

lol

Backtrack3> Ubuntu> window

Jorsher · « **Reply #21 on:** April 07, 2009, 07:42:54 PM »

Quote from: crxvtec91 on April 07, 2009, 07:35:45 PM

Quote from: bigdaddyvtec on April 07, 2009, 11:41:18 AM
7 is sexy. Fuck Ubuntu

lol

Backtrack3> Ubuntu> window

Backtrack 4 beta is out. I don't see what's so great for it other than using it for free internet.

Let me reiterate:

Quote from: rawr on April 07, 2009, 11:42:29 AM

Direct x > GLX

Kain · « **Reply #22 on:** April 07, 2009, 08:12:17 PM »

Quote from: Jorsher on April 07, 2009, 07:42:54 PM

Quote from: crxvtec91 on April 07, 2009, 07:35:45 PM
Quote from: bigdaddyvtec on April 07, 2009, 11:41:18 AM
7 is sexy. Fuck Ubuntu

lol

Backtrack3> Ubuntu> window

Backtrack 4 beta is out. I don't see what's so great for it other than using it for free internet.

Let me reiterate:

Quote from: rawr on April 07, 2009, 11:42:29 AM
Direct x > GLX

yes, because we all use backtrack as an every day OS. RIGHT.

on a serious note, ive started my advanced unix/linux administration class. its getting pretty neat.

E-b0la · « **Reply #23 on:** April 07, 2009, 08:33:20 PM »

I'm still rocking XP.

and an AMD Sempron 3100 (socket 754 motherfucker) oh yeah.

snm95ls · « **Reply #24 on:** April 07, 2009, 10:23:29 PM »

Quote from: E-b0la on April 07, 2009, 08:33:20 PM

I'm still rocking XP.

and an AMD Sempron 3100 (socket 754 motherfucker) oh yeah.

Lol. AMD XP3000+ socket A with Windows XP.

Teg2boo · « **Reply #25 on:** April 08, 2009, 01:28:56 AM »

Quote from: Joseph Davis on April 07, 2009, 10:26:32 AM

LOL wtf

jagojon3 · « **Reply #26 on:** April 08, 2009, 01:30:27 AM »

I have an AMD Athlon 2800+ 2.08 Ghz processor (754) laying around if anybody needs one cheap

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #27 on:** April 08, 2009, 09:57:46 AM »

I'm about to build a couple cheap up to date PCs. I need a tower for the workshop, would like solid performance but it'll be used for logging/geekery. I plan on getting serial/parallel cards for it as well as a cheap PCI GPIB card. The other one is a simple home entertainment/light duty game rig. Probably get a 22-32" TV/monitor that does 1080P, cheap but decent vid card that supports DX10.

Realistically, I'm super happy with the T8300 in my laptop, and the 4.1 Ghz watercooled P4 in my current desktop does really well for most stuff, so I think I'd be easy to please. I'm curious how the inexpensive AMDs stack up in terms of bang for the buck? My problem is I lack persective, and I know some of you guys fuck with different setups all the time just like I tune cars.

Ntrain2k · « **Reply #28 on:** April 08, 2009, 10:08:46 AM »

If you want to stick with an intel setup, this dual core is a GREAT bang for the buck:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116072

3.3 ghz air cooled all day long for me. I play everything maxed out at 1680x1050 with a 4850 with not a single hiccup.

BoostedSchemes · « **Reply #29 on:** April 08, 2009, 10:34:59 AM »

jd extremeoverclocking.com
spend maybe 1hr reading and you will catch up real quick... ive been on there a few years longer than hmt....

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