Topic: Ron Paul: OK (Read 4289 times)

jabberwock · « **on:** October 25, 2011, 12:52:33 PM »

Ron Paul On Hannity 10/24/2011

awesome

MTZ · « **Reply #1 on:** October 25, 2011, 02:02:52 PM »

he doesnt let him talk and just talks about him closing fed student loans and grants, there is an agenda on the media and its to hurt his young supporter base/college kids. I hope they are all smarter and understand what Ron is doing will fucking make colleges start going down with tuition instead of up every year(it might take a few years but it WILL go down when people just stop going to school cause they cant afford it) also we are at a point were we need to see the big picture and suck it up for the benefit of our future.

chris · « **Reply #2 on:** October 25, 2011, 02:42:18 PM »

Also the federal aid is for basically only the poor. I applied for it through college and got a total of I believe 200 dollars over my whole time in school. I was raised in a single family home with my father making around 50k working for the department of defense. Apparently that income is considered enough to support 3 kids through college,LOL. My dad was a hard working dude but making that kind of money raising a family is enough to get by but that was about it.

The only people I have known to get aid were either single women with kids or basically people who were violently poor. Neither of those vote.

rawr · « **Reply #3 on:** October 25, 2011, 02:51:00 PM »

I got financial aid like a boss. Mom making like mid 20k a year.

MTZ · « **Reply #4 on:** October 25, 2011, 04:58:50 PM »

boils down to VOTE for Ron Paul, then fuck the fed, chop the gov down and let us live the american dream but the one where you work your ass, off not the one where the gov gives you a lil bit of everything rendering you a POS that likes not working

Jorsher · « **Reply #5 on:** October 25, 2011, 07:04:53 PM »

Tuition has increased at more than double the rate of inflation. Like you said MTZ, cut the federal aid and suddenly colleges will be fighting for students by lowering prices instead of fighting for students by blowing money on amenities.

I didn't finish college, but I made it through my first couple years just fine without aid. We were also not poor enough for the pell grant. I didn't get money from mommy and daddy or big 'ol gov't, I worked a job (and at times two), lived within my means, and paid out of pocket. It wasn't the most glamorous college but the credits were just as good.

snm95ls · « **Reply #6 on:** October 25, 2011, 07:12:32 PM »

I have received several thousand in Pell grants over my academic career. Being an old fuck with almost no income does that though...

Jorsher · « **Reply #7 on:** October 25, 2011, 07:16:38 PM »

Quote from: snm95ls on October 25, 2011, 07:12:32 PM

I have received several thousand in Pell grants over my academic career. Being an old fuck with almost no income does that though...

I don't know your particular situation, and it can't be a bad thing in every situation, but I don't think people should be spending thousands for a business degree from Phoenix online to get a worthless degree in a saturated market that won't really get them a job they couldn't have got without the degree. It's still a huge scam.

It's entirely possible for anyone to get to college by getting good grades in school, and the subsequent scholarships, and not thinking they need a nice apartment and a nice car and a big name expensive college. All it's doing is driving up the cost of college so that those that would be able to afford it on their own otherwise have to acquire a nice debt just to pay tuition.

MTZ · « **Reply #8 on:** October 25, 2011, 08:51:21 PM »

the problem is not really the fact that the pell grant helps people its the fact that colleges now raised their tuition because the federal gov was going to pick up the tab and it keeps happening year after year and also they lowered their standard of education and requisites to get into college cause all they care about is collecting $ from the gov so in essence an amizing program backfired and caused an inflation that was unprecedented in education but the people that suffer AGAIN is the middle class people that cant get a pell and have to play into the fucking "game". If i ever become someone that can do anything it will be make a college that is basically free and only cost will be EXACTLY what is needed to cover operation cost... split between my thousand of students

JaredKaragen · « **Reply #9 on:** October 25, 2011, 08:58:58 PM »

RP has awesome ideas... very well thought...

he just needs to make sure he spoon feeds it; not force feeds like obama.

if people keep adding more and more as obama is doing now... inflation keeps rising. by stunting the system of freebies; it forces people to go out and accomplish things instead of sitting on their asses at home living on the company dime because "they deserve it".

Shit... Federal income tax.... does anyone here know what it was ORIGINALLY created for? to pay off WW1. When was it paid off? do you research.

Death tax: are you serious?

i can keep going.

RP sees this... but scares people by wanting to reform everything in one shot. This is how people initially understand him.... which is only a slight truth... the truth being reform and dismemberment of government control over things they shouldnt be trying to control.

snm95ls · « **Reply #10 on:** October 25, 2011, 09:38:57 PM »

Quote from: Jorsher on October 25, 2011, 07:16:38 PM

Quote from: snm95ls on October 25, 2011, 07:12:32 PM
I have received several thousand in Pell grants over my academic career. Being an old fuck with almost no income does that though...

I don't know your particular situation, and it can't be a bad thing in every situation, but I don't think people should be spending thousands for a business degree from Phoenix online to get a worthless degree in a saturated market that won't really get them a job they couldn't have got without the degree. It's still a huge scam.

It's entirely possible for anyone to get to college by getting good grades in school, and the subsequent scholarships, and not thinking they need a nice apartment and a nice car and a big name expensive college. All it's doing is driving up the cost of college so that those that would be able to afford it on their own otherwise have to acquire a nice debt just to pay tuition.

Agreed about receiving money for what are essentially worthless degrees from universities that are barely accredited.

I am a non-traditional engineering student attending an in state, public school. It just happens to be a pretty damn decent and well recognized engineering school.

;D

Quote from: MTZ on October 25, 2011, 08:51:21 PM

the problem is not really the fact that the pell grant helps people its the fact that colleges now raised their tuition because the federal gov was going to pick up the tab and it keeps happening year after year and also they lowered their standard of education and requisites to get into college cause all they care about is collecting $ from the gov so in essence an amizing program backfired and caused an inflation that was unprecedented in education but the people that suffer AGAIN is the middle class people that cant get a pell and have to play into the fucking "game". If i ever become someone that can do anything it will be make a college that is basically free and only cost will be EXACTLY what is needed to cover operation cost... split between my thousand of students

The money taken in by universities is absolutely astronomical. I cannot say what operation cost is in comparison to revenue though. Unfortunately education has become a very lucrative business, so retention and attracting as many students as possible becomes more important is some cases than education itself.

Our education system is pretty damn screwed up no matter what angle you look at it from.

I would imagine that more selective private institutions are a little different.

There are some days where I wonder what the fuck I am doing here as I feel like I am in life limbo. Oh well, way the fuck too late to quit now.

Stealthmode · « **Reply #11 on:** October 25, 2011, 09:49:03 PM »

Quote from: MTZ on October 25, 2011, 04:58:50 PM

boils down to VOTE for Ron Paul,

...and not in the general election, because if you wait for him to make it that far, he won't.

You get involved with your state coordinator, and take maybe 25 -40 Ron Paul voters to your caucus/primary. You become responsible for securing your precinct (like a couple blocks of your city? = easy shit) for Ron Paul, and hope many others throughout your state do the same. That's the only way to win a majority of States, and get him to the general election.

Otherwise, we'll get hoodwinked again by random dipshits at the caucus/primary following the news trends......and you get Juan McLame'd!!

Go to RonPaul2012.com, pick your state, and get in touch with the local people, and take YOUR PRECINCT. That's like 25-40 RP votes to secure.

klyph · « **Reply #12 on:** October 26, 2011, 05:39:54 AM »

If every person in this country voted for Ron Paul, they still wouldn't elect him president. Its a dollarocracy up in here and RP ain't gonna fly no matter what you do. I'm still gonna vote for him whether they count it or not.

Urban Indian · « **Reply #13 on:** October 26, 2011, 11:44:52 AM »

Its scary once you realize what the world has come to

chris · « **Reply #14 on:** October 26, 2011, 12:02:07 PM »

Also many states have a closed primary so you may need to switch parties. I will be voting in my first primary ever this year for Dr. Paul.

Wiki actually has a solid link for once with all dates etc

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primary_election#2011

MTZ · « **Reply #15 on:** October 26, 2011, 12:23:18 PM »

ive never voted in the primaries either but its happening

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #16 on:** October 26, 2011, 12:32:23 PM »

He talks funny. No wonder Steve likes him.

Gold DA9 · « **Reply #17 on:** October 26, 2011, 01:57:12 PM »

i dont even know what im registered to vote for....

chris · « **Reply #18 on:** October 26, 2011, 03:13:55 PM »

You should be able to change whatever you are registered as online.

Paul is the only chance we have.

Gold DA9 · « **Reply #19 on:** October 26, 2011, 04:07:41 PM »

Quote from: chris M on October 26, 2011, 03:13:55 PM

You should be able to change whatever you are registered as online.

Paul is the only chance we have.

I will check it out. I believe the same.

Whitey · « **Reply #20 on:** October 27, 2011, 06:30:31 PM »

Since its a 2 party system RP would basically be a lame duck president right out of the gate and wouldn't be able to get anything passed that he's asking for. The system is fucked... we need to burn it down

Jorsher · « **Reply #21 on:** October 27, 2011, 07:17:18 PM »

Quote from: Whitey on October 27, 2011, 06:30:31 PM

Since its a 2 party system RP would basically be a lame duck president right out of the gate and wouldn't be able to get anything passed that he's asking for. The system is fucked... we need to burn it down

Yeah, that would be the best for results, but getting him in office would be a small step forward.

All I know is everyone else is retarded, so as unlikely as it is that he gets elected, I'll still be voting for him.

chris · « **Reply #22 on:** October 27, 2011, 08:26:20 PM »

Spread the word.

chris · « **Reply #23 on:** October 27, 2011, 08:37:22 PM »

Ron Paul Wins Ohio Straw Poll With 53% Of The Vote!

Stealthmode · « **Reply #24 on:** October 27, 2011, 08:50:39 PM »

Quote from: Whitey on October 27, 2011, 06:30:31 PM

Since its a 2 party system RP would basically be a lame duck president right out of the gate and wouldn't be able to get anything passed that he's asking for. The system is fucked... we need to burn it down

He'd still have an R behind his name, so all the lackies would support him and claim he's doing everything right, just as the crooked Democrats do today for Obama, and everyone knows they don't believe the shit they say to support him. More importantly, Ron Paul as President would change the minds of the many mind numb party voters, just as he's done since he ran in 2008 when nobody cared, he was the "crazy guy".......and now this whole thread loves him. lol

Jorsher · « **Reply #25 on:** October 27, 2011, 10:13:43 PM »

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