Topic: anyone know where to get these? (Read 4117 times)

PhilStubbs · « **on:** October 30, 2011, 07:04:51 PM »

this pic came from xenocron. i have never seen them anywhere else, but im sure he is just buying them and calling them his own rather than actually making them

IT'S NOT GOING ON A TURBO, I DONT CARE ABOUT AIRFLOW.

crttaz · « **Reply #1 on:** October 30, 2011, 07:31:20 PM »

What are they?

PhilStubbs · « **Reply #2 on:** October 30, 2011, 07:45:07 PM »

He sells them as a turbo filter.

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #3 on:** October 30, 2011, 08:22:01 PM »

If you want to find something that blocks half of the inlet of your turbo why not just shove a goddamn potato into the inducer? It's cheaper and less hassle.

PhilStubbs · « **Reply #4 on:** October 30, 2011, 08:35:12 PM »

I'm not going to use them on a turbo. I want to put them in the ports of my bass guitar amp to keep the cats out of it.

And a filter has WAY more surface area than a screen the size of the turbo inlet. That's how it makes more power.

jabberwock · « **Reply #5 on:** October 30, 2011, 08:35:37 PM »

Make the screen in the shape of a big air filter... they sell filters for karts that are designed for dyno and qualifying purposes. http://www.eccarburetors.com/estore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=10_36&products_id=762

ratcityrex · « **Reply #6 on:** October 30, 2011, 09:22:45 PM »

Go to home depot and ask for bird block screens. They mount in the holes up by your gutters

Jorsher · « **Reply #7 on:** October 30, 2011, 10:04:01 PM »

Sink screens are also used for this purpose.

snm95ls · « **Reply #8 on:** October 30, 2011, 10:56:51 PM »

Quote from: n/a michael on October 30, 2011, 08:23:46 PM

a filter on your turbo makes more power than having a screen on it?
i don't see how a filter flows more air than just a screen.
do you have anything i can read that shows that?
I'm not saying you are wrong, I'd just like to read about that.

I used some window screen and a hose clamp on my turbo. I think the pic above looks better, but the way i did it was free cause I had stuff laying around

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this one out...

flat_black · « **Reply #9 on:** October 30, 2011, 11:42:09 PM »

my small K&N 4inch inlet air filter robbed about 9 horsepower when on the dyno, the screen (which i had molded a small dome into it) only robbed 3 horsepower im sure with a bigger filter it would have been less, but with my small K&N it was worse

turbob16hatch · « **Reply #10 on:** October 30, 2011, 11:51:21 PM »

Quote from: flat_black on October 30, 2011, 11:42:09 PM

my small K&N 4inch inlet air filter robbed about 9 horsepower when on the dyno, the screen (which i had molded a small dome into it) only robbed 3 horsepower im sure with a bigger filter it would have been less, but with my small K&N it was worse

As stated it's a surface area issue. Look at the size of v8 or diesel air filters. I have seen diesel filters rated in cfm and there sizes increase with the cfm, so......

MTZ · « **Reply #11 on:** October 31, 2011, 12:18:05 AM »

DONT BUY IT i used one from xenocron a long time ago and in a car inspection, i noticed it was coming apart.... its a fucking turbo killer

HiProfile · « **Reply #12 on:** October 31, 2011, 12:32:55 AM »

Any screen will kill a turbo, just give it enough time.

Go to mcmaster and look up screen material (woven metal cloth) - they list percentage of open area. Most people use on turbos only have 50-60% of the area open, so yeah a small tater might flow better. A filter has less than 15% of it's area open, but has tons of surface.

15% of a 5x5 drum filter is 12" sq., assuming each inch of circumfrence has 2" of pleated material

65% of a 4" flat screen is ~8" sq.

rawr · « **Reply #13 on:** October 31, 2011, 01:52:52 AM »

Quote from: Jorsher on October 30, 2011, 10:04:01 PM

Sink screens are also used for this purpose.

for what purpose

PhilStubbs · « **Reply #14 on:** October 31, 2011, 06:51:24 AM »

Quote from: MTZ on October 31, 2011, 12:18:05 AM

DONT BUY IT i used one from xenocron a long time ago and in a car inspection, i noticed it was coming apart.... its a fucking turbo killer

It's not going on a turbo.

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #15 on:** October 31, 2011, 08:35:14 AM »

Quote from: n/a michael on October 30, 2011, 08:23:46 PM

a filter on your turbo makes more power than having a screen on it?
i don't see how a filter flows more air than just a screen.

A filter has more surface area than a screen that is blocking 50% of a turbo's opening.

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #16 on:** October 31, 2011, 08:53:17 AM »

FUCK YOU

Two reasons, one I didn't read the whole thread, and two I am so old I cannot be expected to pay attention or have the slightest grasp of what is going on around me.

Good day.

92CXyD · « **Reply #17 on:** October 31, 2011, 09:51:12 AM »

Quote from: Joseph Davis on October 31, 2011, 08:53:17 AM

FUCK YOU

Two reasons, one I didn't read the whole thread, and two I am so old I cannot be expected to pay attention or have the slightest grasp of what is going on around me.

Good day.

If your so old then I must be old as dirt, Spiker super old, and Bone oldest Mother Fucker alive.

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #18 on:** October 31, 2011, 09:57:06 AM »

Quote from: 92CXyD on October 31, 2011, 09:51:12 AM

Quote from: Joseph Davis on October 31, 2011, 08:53:17 AM
FUCK YOU

Two reasons, one I didn't read the whole thread, and two I am so old I cannot be expected to pay attention or have the slightest grasp of what is going on around me.

Good day.

If your so old then I must be old as dirt, Spiker super old, and Bone oldest Mother Fucker alive.

Basically. All of us are falling apart except Spiker, and he's running on Viagra and borrowed time.

92CXyD · « **Reply #19 on:** October 31, 2011, 11:27:56 AM »

Quote from: Joseph Davis on October 31, 2011, 09:57:06 AM

Quote from: 92CXyD on October 31, 2011, 09:51:12 AM
Quote from: Joseph Davis on October 31, 2011, 08:53:17 AM
FUCK YOU

Two reasons, one I didn't read the whole thread, and two I am so old I cannot be expected to pay attention or have the slightest grasp of what is going on around me.

Good day.

If your so old then I must be old as dirt, Spiker super old, and Bone oldest Mother Fucker alive.

Basically. All of us are falling apart except Spiker, and he's running on Viagra and borrowed time.

Yeap

crttaz · « **Reply #20 on:** October 31, 2011, 11:33:47 AM »

Quote from: 92CXyD on October 31, 2011, 11:27:56 AM

Quote from: Joseph Davis on October 31, 2011, 09:57:06 AM
Quote from: 92CXyD on October 31, 2011, 09:51:12 AM
Quote from: Joseph Davis on October 31, 2011, 08:53:17 AM
FUCK YOU

Two reasons, one I didn't read the whole thread, and two I am so old I cannot be expected to pay attention or have the slightest grasp of what is going on around me.

Good day.

If your so old then I must be old as dirt, Spiker super old, and Bone oldest Mother Fucker alive.

Basically. All of us are falling apart except Spiker, and he's running on Viagra and borrowed time.

Yeap

FUCK!

kgx · « **Reply #21 on:** October 31, 2011, 06:50:15 PM »

Quote from: n/a michael on October 31, 2011, 01:04:16 AM

Quote from: snm95ls on October 30, 2011, 10:56:51 PM
Quote from: n/a michael on October 30, 2011, 08:23:46 PM
a filter on your turbo makes more power than having a screen on it?
i don't see how a filter flows more air than just a screen.
do you have anything i can read that shows that?
I'm not saying you are wrong, I'd just like to read about that.

I used some window screen and a hose clamp on my turbo. I think the pic above looks better, but the way i did it was free cause I had stuff laying around

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this one out...
you are right, for some reason I wasn't thinking about the same kind of airfilter you guys are talking about.

a screen will flow better than a filter if they are exactly the same size.
if you make a screen with the same surface area as a good cone filter then the screen will flow better.
I'd prefer to run with no filter or screen, but turbos don't like rocks flying inside them.

If you're going to run a screen, do what they do on actual race cars and make it a dome shape over the inlet to substantially increase the surface area of the screen. Look at the turbo inlet snorkels on the old champ cars and you'll see that kind of screen to keep the turbo from ingesting rubber and other debris.

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