Topic: Our cutting shop - starting to take shape (Read 81097 times)

mandrel-bends · « **on:** November 11, 2011, 04:03:38 AM »

We started our cutting shop last year with a high-definition plasma made by Komatsu. We've since sold that machine and are solely running waterjets now.

Our first waterjet - Mighty Midget (Flow Bengal)

Nested stainless parts.

Our second waterjet, a chukar/jet-edge machine, being put up:

Pump alone is about the size of the baby bengal.

When it's finished, it will look identical to this:

mandrel-bends · « **Reply #1 on:** November 11, 2011, 04:17:06 AM »

One of the most annoying things about waterjets is they give you these tiny little hoppers, that barely hold maybe 80lbs of abrasive.. meaning you gotta stop it and fill it every couple hours. If you don't, you end up blasting abrasive everywhere and screwing up your cut. We researched large hopper options, but most companies wanted $5-8k for 500lb hopper. So we built our own, out of a $100 air tank off craigslist and some fittings.

Pathetic 80lb stock hopper:

$200 hopper we built from used air tank, and 3 pressure-proof viewing windows from grainger. We just cut off the top, flipped it, welded it back on, welded up a few (big -1 huge) holes, added a few fittings and wa-la. ~800lb capacity hopper. Thing even holds pressure - what do you know.

imburne · « **Reply #2 on:** November 11, 2011, 04:24:35 AM »

Very nice. We should get the sponsors going back for this site. I just bought piping from eBay instead of you. I still need exhaust piping though so I will be sending a pm your way when I have some more cash to spend.

mandrel-bends · « **Reply #3 on:** November 11, 2011, 04:33:49 AM »

I appreciate the thought. We are a bit slower this time of year, so everything counts.

For those interested in our original plasma setups. The komatsu we originally started with underwent some pretty serious retrofits.

This is a video of the machine as it cut stock - ~30IPM @ 3/8" mild. Running a bunch of LS1 flanges.

LS1 Flange on KCR-0951 Plasma

This is a video of the machine after it received a huge amount of hydefinition hypertherm parts. (New Hydef Power Source, Controller, Torch Height system, etc). 80IPM @ 3/8" mild. I'm actually going to mount this power souce & torch system on the jet edge machine and run it as a mixed mode setup.

KCR-HD3070 Hybrid

Teg2boo · « **Reply #4 on:** November 11, 2011, 09:08:23 AM »

Why water instead of plasma? What's the benefit of it? Cleaner cut?

PhilStubbs · « **Reply #5 on:** November 11, 2011, 09:57:38 AM »

Pretty sure cleaner cut is the reason.

Glad to see you back around here Adam.

mandrel-bends · « **Reply #6 on:** November 11, 2011, 02:00:23 PM »

The cut quality is superior to the hydefinition plasma and dramatically better to the laser cut parts we've been out sourcing for years. What we gained in speed on hydef plasma (cutting 80-120 ipm), we lost in clean up of the parts (you have to re-drill all the holes, and remove the slag) if there are a lot small holes.

That doesn't mean I wont be using the plasma head on the second waterjet for profiling. For a lot of our industrial customers - plasma is just fine, and they dont want to pay for 10 ipm on waterjet. Plasma is just really bad at holes that are near the diameter of the material you are cutting. (3/8" hole or near on 3/8" plate, etc).

slappynuts · « **Reply #7 on:** November 11, 2011, 06:06:58 PM »

PM me. I am looking for a new flange supplier for the shop.

88dx · « **Reply #8 on:** November 14, 2011, 02:24:21 AM »

Setup looks badass

Do you happen to have any downpipe flanges for a Holset hy35? I dont see it listed on your site?

mandrel-bends · « **Reply #9 on:** November 14, 2011, 02:48:10 AM »

I have a drawing for the Holset HX35...? 1/2 or 3/8"? I'll put them up tomorrow just send me pm or leave the thickness here.

88dx · « **Reply #10 on:** November 14, 2011, 02:54:22 AM »

ratcityrex · « **Reply #11 on:** November 14, 2011, 11:05:13 AM »

what about a hx35? downpipe flange;)

mandrel-bends · « **Reply #12 on:** November 14, 2011, 05:10:55 PM »

HX 35

http://www.mandrel-bends.com/catalog/flanges-custom-waterjet-cutting-36/turbo-flanges-62/holset-hx35-turbo-outlet-flange-3-8-mild-steel-2206.html

ratcityrex · « **Reply #13 on:** November 14, 2011, 07:54:58 PM »

Nice Adam, whats the nig nog rhmt hook up price shipped to 98370?

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #14 on:** November 15, 2011, 09:56:06 AM »

Quote from: 88dx on November 14, 2011, 02:24:21 AM

Setup looks badass Do you happen to have any downpipe flanges for a Holset hy35? I dont see it listed on your site?

HY35 flange is HX30 flange, IIRC, which I may not, and I think it's different from HX35, but could be wrong.

Glad I could clear that up!

dvst8r · « **Reply #15 on:** November 15, 2011, 10:24:58 AM »

Most hy35's that I have seen just have a cast 4"ish v-band that is all apart of the exhaust housing. Not a separate flange like the hx-35's. However knowing holset I am sure there are more then a couple variations of the hy35.

HiProfile · « **Reply #16 on:** November 15, 2011, 12:22:55 PM »

So which machine will you be using to cut your x-mas cookies for the company party this year?

Serious question, do you have the flange for the holslut HE351VE, the oddball VGT? I don't need one atm, but I know others have in the past and nobody had them.

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #17 on:** November 15, 2011, 12:25:20 PM »

I gave away an HE351VE the other day. If I'd known it was a big deal I'd have copied the pattern.

92CXyD · « **Reply #18 on:** November 15, 2011, 12:30:30 PM »

Quote from: HiProfile on November 15, 2011, 12:22:55 PM

So which machine will you be using to cut your x-mas cookies for the company party this year?

Serious question, do you have the flange for the holslut HE351VE, the oddball VGT? I don't need one atm, but I know others have in the past and nobody had them.

I have a flange if somebody want to copy

mandrel-bends · « **Reply #19 on:** November 15, 2011, 01:41:15 PM »

I'll see what I can find for an HX30 then. Thank you for the clarification.

Most turbo or exhaust flanges can be shipped in a usps small flat rate box for ~$5.

mandrel-bends · « **Reply #20 on:** November 15, 2011, 01:45:17 PM »

If we dont have the pattern, and it's something others could use, we will likely cut one for free if a gasket/flange/dxf/etc is provided and we will return your samples back to you on our dime. I just want to clarify that it would need to be a pattern that others would need as well (ie: common automotive or industrial).

dvst8r · « **Reply #21 on:** November 15, 2011, 09:14:51 PM »

Quote from: HiProfile on November 15, 2011, 12:22:55 PM

So which machine will you be using to cut your x-mas cookies for the company party this year?

Serious question, do you have the flange for the holslut HE351VE, the oddball VGT? I don't need one atm, but I know others have in the past and nobody had them.

Not to take business from Adam, but Weir does for sure, I sent him the pattern and had one cut. Used it on a manifold about 6 months ago.

dvst8r · « **Reply #22 on:** November 15, 2011, 09:17:13 PM »

In fact I just checked my email, and still have the dxf in my email, if anyone wants it pm me.

ApexSilver06MR · « **Reply #23 on:** November 17, 2011, 02:02:50 AM »

bump for my boy adam. He came thru to the pnw fluffy meet with some free goods!!!

92CXyD · « **Reply #24 on:** November 17, 2011, 01:10:16 PM »

Quote from: ApexSilver06MR on November 17, 2011, 02:02:50 AM

bump for my boy adam. He came thru to the pnw fluffy meet with some free goods!!!

Yeap and as soon as I replace the radiator support and straighten the nose of my car, I'll be using some of those 3" pipe goodies.

Adam you the man, hope to see ya at the next meet, with twincharge madness.

DasPoop · « **Reply #25 on:** November 17, 2011, 01:24:44 PM »

Quote from: 92CXyD on November 17, 2011, 01:10:16 PM

Quote from: ApexSilver06MR on November 17, 2011, 02:02:50 AM
bump for my boy adam. He came thru to the pnw fluffy meet with some free goods!!!

Yeap and as soon as I replace the radiator support and straighten the nose of my car, I'll be using some of those 3" pipe goodies.

Adam you the man, hope to see ya at the next meet, with twincharge madness.

I want to hear that m5 scream on the dyno again

92CXyD · « **Reply #26 on:** November 17, 2011, 02:09:06 PM »

Quote from: DasPoop on November 17, 2011, 01:24:44 PM

Quote from: 92CXyD on November 17, 2011, 01:10:16 PM
Quote from: ApexSilver06MR on November 17, 2011, 02:02:50 AM
bump for my boy adam. He came thru to the pnw fluffy meet with some free goods!!!

Yeap and as soon as I replace the radiator support and straighten the nose of my car, I'll be using some of those 3" pipe goodies.

Adam you the man, hope to see ya at the next meet, with twincharge madness.

I want to hear that m5 scream on the dyno again

That was sweet sound.

Wonder where the vid of that is at?

mandrel-bends · « **Reply #27 on:** November 17, 2011, 03:06:00 PM »

I appreciate it guys. I will be back this year with more goodies and a slightly whistling m5 for the dyno. My 5 year old will likely be coming as well this year - she doesn't let me get out of the house without her these days!

Anybody need some aluminum work done? I don't have to charge much for the material - I've got ~800-1000bs of 6061-t6 drops from a job we just ran, all 3/8" with huge sections left in the plate skeletons and highly usable 11" circular drops.

PhilStubbs · « **Reply #28 on:** November 17, 2011, 03:43:53 PM »

What ever happened with those anti reversion chambers you were doing? Did the idea die off?

mandrel-bends · « **Reply #29 on:** November 17, 2011, 04:10:50 PM »

We sell a lot of parts to make them to certain companies. I use them on all of our performance vehicles as well. Since I dont own the patent, I can't really do more then give advice and parts on how to build them.

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