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[t_cel_t]

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http://digg.com/tech_news/Unplug_the_Internet_No_President_should_have_this_power

[junkyard racer]

It will never happen. Killing the internet is impossible. They could put a hurting on it, but never kill it or turn it off. Actually, I think this will be the next attack on the world. Attack the thing that connects everyone.

[E-b0la]

A cyber security czar? Give me a fucking break.

And what the fuck is with the use of the term "czar" anyway? We never used that term in our government until this nigger stepped into office.

[Logan76]

When do we stop calling it a democracy and start calling it communism?

[Kain]

When did we stop calling it a democracy and start calling it communism?

fixed

[imburne]

They have been placing filters for years now.. Its not good enough though.. the power of the internet is too strong, thats the problem.

[Jorsher]

He'd get assassinated by WoW players if he did anything to the internets.

[Perfek360]

He'd get assassinated by WoW players if he did anything to the internets.

yeah, i can see it now...they would cast death spells with their level 50 wizardry  :somb:

[imburne]

Just another example on how the government does what it wants, and how people are generally idiots for loving them..

DEA Caught on Tape Doing an Illegal Raid

[1slow91hf]

gotta love government controlled bodies acting over the states wishes

[Ntrain2k]

Guys, this bill could go a bit further than the internet itself:

http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/Bi...Powers-504520/

The Cybersecurity Act of 2009 introduced in the Senate would allow the president to shut down private Internet networks. The legislation also calls for the government to have the authority to demand security data from private networks without regard to any provision of law, regulation, rule or policy restricting such access.

According to the bill's language, the president would have broad authority to designate various private networks as a "critical infrastructure system or network" and, with no other review, "may declare a cyber-security emergency and order the limitation or shutdown of Internet traffic to and from" the designated the private-sector system or network.

The 51-page bill does not define what private sector networks would be considered critical to the nation's security, but the Center for Democracy and Technology fears it could include communications networks in addition to the more traditional security concerns over the financial and transportation networks and the electrical grid.

"I'd be very surprised if it doesn't include communications systems, which are certainly critical infrastructure," CDT General Counsel Greg Nojeim told eWEEK. "The president would decide not only what is critical infrastructure but also what is an emergency."

The legislation also calls for a public-private clearinghouse for cyber-threats and vulnerability information under Department of Commerce authority. The Secretary of Commerce would have the authority to access "all relevant data concerning such networks without regard to any provision of law, regulation, rule or policy restricting such access."

[Kenny Rogers]

Remember, remember the Fifth of November.

[Ntrain2k]

V for Vendetta Speech

[HiProfile]

shut down private Internet networks.

You guys realize what the internet really is, right? A collection of interconnected public & private networks. And its now connected to the point of being virtually IMPOSSIBLE to "turn it off" as everyone is thinking. Even if they were right to the backbone networks, there are more than a simple handful. THEN they'd still have to kill the phone systems - big fat chance of getting that done. Logistically, shutting down the entire USA internet portion is far out of the government's abilities.


This allows them to shut down INDIVIDUAL PRIVATE networks, like RoadRunner for example. To shut down every borrowed line they use, they'd have to shut down thousands of smaller public & private network. In the end, this would be like enacting martial law. It takes one hell of a problem to allow it, and it wouldn't help with a President's popularity.

[Kenny Rogers]

It takes one hell of a problem to allow it, and it wouldn't help with a President's popularity.

He's already won the popularity contest.  The point is that by giving the government more power you are limiting your rights... it's not in our interest to have something like this passed.

[junkyard racer]

shut down private Internet networks.

You guys realize what the internet really is, right? A collection of interconnected public & private networks. And its now connected to the point of being virtually IMPOSSIBLE to "turn it off" as everyone is thinking. Even if they were right to the backbone networks, there are more than a simple handful. THEN they'd still have to kill the phone systems - big fat chance of getting that done. Logistically, shutting down the entire USA internet portion is far out of the government's abilities.


This allows them to shut down INDIVIDUAL PRIVATE networks, like RoadRunner for example. To shut down every borrowed line they use, they'd have to shut down thousands of smaller public & private network. In the end, this would be like enacting martial law. It takes one hell of a problem to allow it, and it wouldn't help with a President's popularity.

Right. thats why I said it was impossible. It could be regulated, highly though. Downloads, transfers, etc.   

When do we stop calling it a democracy and start calling it communism?

Very good question.

[Joseph Davis]

Remember, remember the Fifth Amendment.

[Conceptz-X]

When did we stop calling it a democracy and start calling it communism?

fixed

Its starting to look more and more like it every passing day.

[t_cel_t]

Remember, remember the Second Amendment.

[Joseph Davis]

I'm more worried about the Fifth, sorry.  Hard men will always have a cache of guns put away for whenever they are needed.