Topic: Fuuuuuck UPDATE: This slut won't start. HELP! (Read 12349 times)

Eggylshatch · « **Reply #30 on:** May 14, 2012, 09:07:11 PM »

1st post updated, the bitch still won't start.

HiProfile · « **Reply #31 on:** May 15, 2012, 12:30:59 AM »

Have you checked there's no spark (crank with plug out & grounded), or are you guessing? Have you smelled the plugs for fuel after cranking? Lifter clearance was set to factory spec and you have compression?

Eggylshatch · « **Reply #32 on:** May 15, 2012, 10:22:56 AM »

I'm guessing on no spark bc I haven't had anyone around to help out. Haven't tested compression, but never touched the lifters so it should be fine- the engine the head came off was running before.

chris · « **Reply #33 on:** May 15, 2012, 01:20:07 PM »

ignitor ignitor ignitor 99 percent of the time thats your problem

Tim · « **Reply #34 on:** May 15, 2012, 01:45:55 PM »

If that's your problem I'll mail u one. I think I owe you because some sensors I promised you that ended up being junk. I'm sure I have a few ignitors though.

Eggylshatch · « **Reply #35 on:** May 15, 2012, 01:54:06 PM »

Ignitors are fucking expensive new eh? It would be the "igniter unit kit" here right? http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/auto/jsp/mws/prddisplay.jsp?inputstate=5&catcgry1=CIVIC&catcgry2=1991&catcgry3=3DR+SI&catcgry4=KA5MT&catcgry5=DISTRIBUTOR

I've got 2 distributors, and neither are working. Chances good the ignitor died on both of them? Tim, I'd definitely take you up on the offer. I'll send you some monies- if you could send it priority that would be tits. I need to get this thing the fuck out of my driveway, I'm moving in about 2 weeks

92CXyD · « **Reply #36 on:** May 15, 2012, 01:55:36 PM »

Quote from: Eggylshatch on May 15, 2012, 10:22:56 AM

I'm guessing on no spark bc I haven't had anyone around to help out. Haven't tested compression, but never touched the lifters so it should be fine- the engine the head came off was running before.

Do you smell fuel in cyl.? (sparkplug should be wet with fuel)

Check compression?

Take a sparkplug attach it to the cyl 1 spark wire (b/c it is the longest).
Place the sparkplug end wedge in the metal of windshield wiper arm.
Make sure the wire is connected to the ign. cap.
Sit in you car crank and watch the plug:

No spark of any kind => double check that ya ground it right and if no spark at all then grab another dizzy.

One large spark and then nothing => ignitor or wire break at ignitor

Lots of Spark and it white hot strong then ignition fine.

Check grounds since you disconnected them when you had the head off.

This helped me diagnose a problem: http://techauto.awardspace.com/ignition.html

Tim · « **Reply #37 on:** May 15, 2012, 02:03:06 PM »

I'm working on my pos tonight, I'll throw one in my distributor so I know it works before I send it.
Can you pm me your address just in case I don't have it?

It will be in the mail tomorrow.

chris · « **Reply #38 on:** May 15, 2012, 06:29:48 PM »

Quote from: Eggylshatch on May 15, 2012, 01:54:06 PM

Ignitors are fucking expensive new eh? It would be the "igniter unit kit" here right? http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/auto/jsp/mws/prddisplay.jsp?inputstate=5&catcgry1=CIVIC&catcgry2=1991&catcgry3=3DR+SI&catcgry4=KA5MT&catcgry5=DISTRIBUTOR

I've got 2 distributors, and neither are working. Chances good the ignitor died on both of them? Tim, I'd definitely take you up on the offer. I'll send you some monies- if you could send it priority that would be tits. I need to get this thing the fuck out of my driveway, I'm moving in about 2 weeks

I use vatozone ones and they work fine. The chance of both being dead is actually pretty high its what really fails inside the honda dist system. The coils rarely go bad. They seem to have around a 150-170k life span.

Tim · « **Reply #39 on:** May 15, 2012, 11:33:25 PM »

Tested one that is an aftermarket one, worked fine.

I can drop it in the mail tomorrow.

Eggylshatch · « **Reply #40 on:** May 16, 2012, 09:24:58 PM »

Tim with the hookup! I'll try the other shit, but there is definitely fuel spraying into the cylinders, and though I haven't tested compression, as long as I didn't fuck up the head gasket install, it should have compression because it ran okay until the timing belt shredded...

chris · « **Reply #41 on:** May 16, 2012, 09:31:53 PM »

even with a half ass job on the headgasket it would start if you had spark/fuel just run terrible

Eggylshatch · « **Reply #42 on:** May 18, 2012, 03:23:16 PM »

Yeah that is what I figured. I'm guessing its the ignitor. Not gonna fuck with this car til I get the part from Tim in the mail. Finally going to do my engine swap in my 95 civic hatch this weekend. Convert to standard, b20z, gsr tranny, dc header, chris m 70mm tb and ported intake manifold. Should be a pimpin upgrade over the auto d15! Then monday I'm building a roof rack for the fucker

Will take pictures and post the work later

chris · « **Reply #43 on:** May 29, 2012, 11:46:44 PM »

ever get it fixed. If not bust out the test light sir

Tim · « **Reply #44 on:** May 30, 2012, 06:31:37 AM »

Check the rotor too.

Eggylshatch · « **Reply #45 on:** May 30, 2012, 11:38:12 AM »

Didn't get her fixed. It backfired through the intake a couple times when I put in the new igniter from Tim, and then it went back to doing the same shit. So I think for some reason it is burning out the igniter almost instantly. But I don't really have the time to fuck around with it

I'm selling it Friday, and losing my ass on it, because I have to move to Colorado Saturday. Fucking sucks, and I hate to give away a pretty damn clean and relatively unmolested 91 civic si, but I don't have any way to keep it without paying for storage for it. Well, I could store it at my girlfriend's parent's house, but I think I might break up with her soon, so its probably better to get some money for it now than pictures of it on fire later.

Tim · « **Reply #46 on:** May 30, 2012, 12:40:17 PM »

dude pull a plug and check for spark, it takes 5 minutes.
On the last one I was unsure and by myself I unbolted the distributor but left the plug wires on.
With one leg of the distributor touching the valve cover for ground, and the key on, I spun the shaft by hand.
Easy way to check for spark without having to try to watch from the driver seat and crank.

Another question, have you checked the plug order?
I know it sounds dumb but a local kid had a car that would sometimes backfire, but never start. He had his plug wires off 90.

chris · « **Reply #47 on:** May 30, 2012, 06:12:02 PM »

No Spark Diagnosis (Honda)

Guy checks the same way I do for spark

Eggylshatch · « **Reply #48 on:** May 31, 2012, 06:01:43 PM »

Yeah I triple checked firing order, good to go there. At this point I'm out of time to work on it because I move Saturday and I'm still sorting all that shit out and packing. Just gonna cut the losses and sell it. The dude that's getting the car is a lucky fucker- hope he realizes that, and gives someone else a hookup one of these days.

Teg2boo · « **Reply #49 on:** June 02, 2012, 11:13:19 AM »

The backfire in intake would say bad timing or bad firing order or very very bad valve adjustment.

I would check the timing belt.

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