Topic: WHO calls emergency meeting. (Read 58713 times)

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #30 on:** April 25, 2009, 07:10:37 PM »

BTW, rawr, remember who hooked RHMT up with free NRA memberships.

Speaking of which, I should have mine when I go home tomorrow.

Ntrain2k · « **Reply #31 on:** April 25, 2009, 07:17:21 PM »

I'll stop posting on this, as there don't seem to be any real interest.

g_shok · « **Reply #32 on:** April 25, 2009, 07:59:25 PM »

not true, im going there next week, as long as they dont declared a travel advisory

oh and not to mention the fact ratcityrex is already there, and maybe be already infected/dieing or dead...(hopefuly none of the above)

Ntrain2k · « **Reply #33 on:** April 25, 2009, 08:06:24 PM »

Since this is useful to someone.

http://www.northlandsnewscenter.com/news/local/43699217.html

Minnesota now as well.

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #34 on:** April 25, 2009, 08:22:28 PM »

Quote from: Ntrain2k on April 25, 2009, 07:17:21 PM

I'll stop posting on this, as there don't seem to be any real interest.

I'm interested, but I really need to be sarcastic more than anything else.

Ntrain2k · « **Reply #35 on:** April 25, 2009, 08:29:19 PM »

Sarcasm is no problem, it just seemed like there was little interest.

Oh, they are talking about quarantining Egypt.

chris · « **Reply #36 on:** April 25, 2009, 08:36:25 PM »

Ok Im just going to hang myself and not live in fear. Dont eat at taco trucks they have aids

Ntrain2k · « **Reply #37 on:** April 25, 2009, 08:42:50 PM »

That's taking a stand!

SgtB · « **Reply #38 on:** April 25, 2009, 08:46:55 PM »

I wonder how much the difference in medical systems, between Mexico and the US, makes a difference. I'm curious if we'll see any major deaths in the US, or is it isolated to Mexico due to poor medical care? Scary shit.

chris · « **Reply #39 on:** April 25, 2009, 08:48:47 PM »

Quote from: SgtB on April 25, 2009, 08:46:55 PM

I wonder how much the difference in medical systems, between Mexico and the US, makes a difference. I'm curious if we'll see any major deaths in the US, or is it isolated to Mexico due to poor medical care? Scary shit.

No difference. Burn mexicans at the cross to make Black Jesus happy.

Ntrain2k · « **Reply #40 on:** April 25, 2009, 08:49:56 PM »

Damn this baked ham is good.

Ntrain2k · « **Reply #41 on:** April 25, 2009, 08:53:13 PM »

You'll have to get in line...

g_shok · « **Reply #42 on:** April 25, 2009, 09:01:36 PM »

just had BBQ ribs feeling fine

chris · « **Reply #43 on:** April 25, 2009, 09:02:39 PM »

Quote from: g_shok on April 25, 2009, 09:01:36 PM

just had BBQ ribs feeling fine

wait 2 hours heart explode and mexicans eat your arms

Ntrain2k · « **Reply #44 on:** April 25, 2009, 09:32:42 PM »

Speculating here...

Since there are no reported deaths in America, I wonder if this will cause an additional influx of Mexicans, possibly seeking better medical treatment.

g_shok · « **Reply #45 on:** April 25, 2009, 09:34:20 PM »

if they can make it, apperently you have 5 days after apperance of symptoms to get ur shit checked, or your fucked, lungs fill and ur dead

Ntrain2k · « **Reply #46 on:** April 25, 2009, 09:36:33 PM »

It's actually taking about 2 weeks in most cases where it has been fatal.

SgtB · « **Reply #47 on:** April 25, 2009, 09:42:39 PM »

Something I found elsewhere. Seems like the current strain can be treated if found early.

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What you're missing is that there are ~60-80 suspected dead in the last two weeks, and by no means has this been contained. Today the number of suspected infected in Mexico is 1000, it was 800 yesterday. http://www.jg-tc.com/articles/2009/04/25/ap/international/d97pgub80.txt

There are only 60 dead as of now. This number will rise. A pandemic is just an epidemic (a localized outbreak occurring at a rate above the background or normal rate of infection) occurring in multiple international jurisdictions. Until this moves definitively beyond Mexico, and right now it doesn't seem that the outbreak in the U.S. is spreading, then this remains an epidemic.

There were 20 dead just 3 days ago. The fact that a city of 20 million has shut down all schools is a pretty big indication of just how serious this is. That's 6.1 million students. Major events like concerts and particularly soccer games are now being played in empty stadiums.

Canada has already reported several sick travelers returning from Mexico. While it's unclear whether they are infected with the same virus, at least one case has been confirmed (in Ontario). Meanwhile, Texas and California have confirmed cases as well. http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1893939,00.html?xid=rss-world. Some schools in Texas will close to curb the spread. http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/Health_officials_close_Cibolos_Steele_High.html

There is also question whether an outbreak of flu at an NYC school is linked to the same virus. http://wcbstv.com/topstories/swine.flu.nyc.2.994071.html There are now reports that the NYC students had recently been to Mexico (still no swine virus confirmed though) http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/stock-market-news-story.aspx?storyid=200904251106dowjonesdjonline000311&title=flu-patients-in-new-york-had-been-in-mexico-report

The CDC seems to suggest that, as far as in the United States, it's too late to contain the outbreak. http://in.reuters.com/article/health/idINTRE53N64X20090424

Some comments at BBC from medical personnel in Mexico City also indicate the gravity of the situation on the ground. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/8018428.stm

When it comes to outbreaks of influenza, you should be happy at the hype, as it is definitely warranted.

EDIT: If there are any questions, fire away. I'll keep a rolling FAQ.

1. Why is this flu killing mostly younger adults?

New and virulent strains of flu have the potential to cause a cytokine storm (an overreaction of the body's immune system). Younger adults have stronger immune systems and thus this overreaction can be deadly.

2. Will the seasonal vaccine protect against this strain of swine flu?

It is unlikely, if likely at all, that the seasonal vaccine will confer any protection. Despite that the seasonal vaccine has an H1N1 component, it appears that this strain is far too distant from that targeted by the seasonal vaccine. It will be a minimum of 3 months before a vaccine against this strain is widely available.

3. Is there treatment for this strain of swine flu?

Right now both Tamiflu (tablet) and Relenza (inhaled powder) are effective; however, there is a chance that the swine flu virus will mutate and become resistant.

4. Why is this called swine flu?

The particular virus normally infects pigs; however, if the pig virus and a human strain of influenza infect the same human cell, they can recombine making a virus capable of transmitting from human-to-human. It is very clear that human-to-human transmission is occurring now.

Ntrain2k · « **Reply #48 on:** April 25, 2009, 10:29:17 PM »

I'm already seeing reports of it being resistant to Tamiflu and Relenza in South America.

BoostedSchemes · « **Reply #49 on:** April 26, 2009, 02:53:47 AM »

5thgenlx · « **Reply #50 on:** April 26, 2009, 05:55:57 AM »

i can't wait until the h5n1 mutates and hits us humans. a true test of science that will truly be.

we're fucked when it comes to super influenza

Ntrain2k · « **Reply #51 on:** April 27, 2009, 04:37:53 PM »

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/MED_SWINE_FLU?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2009-04-27-16-07-57

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US responding as if swine flu will be pandemic

Apr 27, 4:07 PM EDT - AP

WASHINGTON (AP) -- "Confirming 40 cases of swine flu in the U.S., the Obama administration said Monday it was responding aggressively as if the outbreak would spread into a full pandemic. Officials urged Americans against most travel to Mexico as the virus that began there spread to the United States and beyond. President Barack Obama urged calm, saying there was reason for concern but not yet "a cause for alarm." But administration officials said they were already waging a vigorous campaign of prevention, unsure of the outbreak's severity or where it would show up next.

"We want to make sure that we have people where they need to be, equipment where it needs to be and, most of all, information shared at all levels," Janet Napolitano, head of the Homeland Security Department, told reporters."

The World Health Organization "now has us at a level 3" out of six levels of intensity, with six being a full pandemic, she said.

"Even if they raise the level today, our preparations are as if they had already been raised. We are proceeding as if we are preparing to a full pandemic," she said.

Not being Chicken little. Just want everyone to be careful if they decide to travel.

g_shok · « **Reply #52 on:** April 27, 2009, 05:15:13 PM »

unless they close the border of make an official request for people not to travel, ill be going, and mostly because i don't want to lose the money i put in for the trip since i have no other days off from work...travel insurance stated only refund will be applied when there is an official notice indicatd on the FAC canada to not travel

Stealthmode · « **Reply #53 on:** April 27, 2009, 05:53:05 PM »

Quote from: 5thgenlx(no-onez/likz(mez) on April 26, 2009, 05:55:57 AM

i can't wait until the h5n1 mutates and hits us humans.

Or Baxter puts it in your regular flu shots and tries to brush it off as nothing, just as they did in late Feb.

http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2009/02/27/8560781.html

Good thing you never heard that one before, and good thing Baxter was just contracted to create the shots to "fix" this "pandemic".

I've always said it, flu shots are a control mechanism.

Ntrain2k · « **Reply #54 on:** April 27, 2009, 06:11:31 PM »

Quote from: 5thgenlx(no-onez/likz(mez) on April 26, 2009, 05:55:57 AM

i can't wait until the h5n1 mutates and hits us humans. a true test of science that will truly be.

we're fucked when it comes to super influenza

If H1N1 gets in an area where H5N1 is, a super influenza is a good possibility.

H1N1 is at 7% CFR in Mexico right now.
H5N1 is between 58-63% CFR depending on area.

Ntrain2k · « **Reply #55 on:** April 27, 2009, 06:33:02 PM »

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&t=p&msa=0&msid=106484775090296685271.0004681a37b713f6b5950&source=embed&ll=38.822591,-94.570312&spn=60.35937,94.921875&z=3

Map is updated every 6 hours or so.

patsmx5 · « **Reply #56 on:** April 27, 2009, 08:17:18 PM »

Not looking good.

So who's gonna post up the RHMT vaccine? :somb:

Ntrain2k · « **Reply #57 on:** April 27, 2009, 08:28:48 PM »

Watch the news around wed/thurs

g_shok · « **Reply #58 on:** April 27, 2009, 10:52:48 PM »

strange that there is nothing in cancun, i dont believe it, i think there hiding it there so that unknowing traveler will still go , spend money and boost the economy. i got the week b4 i find out if they alert no travel there, otherwise im still going

Ntrain2k · « **Reply #59 on:** April 27, 2009, 11:05:02 PM »

There is.

http://www.thestate.com/local/v-print/story/765267.html

Posted on Mon, Apr. 27, 2009

Newberry Academy closed, students tested for swine flu (SC)

By ADAM BEAM
abeam@thestate.com

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An independent Newberry County school could be closed a second day after 13 students and three chaperones returned from a trip to Cancun, Mexico with flu-like symptoms.

South Carolinaâ€™s state epidemiologist Jerry Gibson said this afternoon he believes itâ€™s â€œfairly likelyâ€ that the suspected cases confirmed by test results as swine flu later today.

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/health/19306256/detail.html

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Woman Complains Of Flu Symptoms Aboard Plane
Traveler On Boston-Bound Plane From Cancun Hospitalized In Pa.

POSTED: 7:04 pm EDT April 27, 2009

BOSTON -- A traveler aboard a Boston-bound plane from Cancun complained of flu-like symptoms while en route Monday.

US Airways flight 804 made a scheduled stop at Philadelphia at about 4 p.m., at which point, a 24-year-old woman was taken to a hospital. It was not known where the traveler is from.

Doctors and medical personnel from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention met the plane at Philadelphia International Airport to address the situation.

You don't even want to see the unconfirmed stuff like the family reports.

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