meh i think they are douches as people but for reall ...and justice defines metal.
There isn't any metal out there that wont quote Black Sabbath or Metallica, pre black album as their inspiration.
Just sayin, Fuck Arch enemy i get far more pumped by listening to Kill em all or ...and justice.
Death magnetic was much better. it was what i was looking for after the black album, they needed redemption from that one. i could tell that it was gonna suck from then on out even at 10 years old i just knew they had jumped teh shark.