Topic: first pistola recommendations? (Read 11213 times)

ghettoturbo · « **on:** May 03, 2009, 09:33:32 PM »

I started the application process, next step is my handgun safety course (next weekend) and putting a deposit down on a gun before i submit the final application.

Im looking to spend somewhere in the $300 range for something so i can go to the range and feel like a badass. I know basically nothing about guns, someone point me in the right direction for something I wont regret buying later on down the road.

-Jay

Stealthmode · « **Reply #1 on:** May 03, 2009, 10:17:53 PM »

Not sure there's anything in the range of $300 that you could consider a great buy, unless you find an "acceptable" gun used at a good price. Just as I did, I'd look at a Smith and Wesson SW9VE (9mm), or if you want the .40 cal, just change the 9 in the model # to 40.

The 9 (or 40) VE is Smith and Wessons best copy of a glock, and they actually got sued because of it. Anyway, it's a good starter gun, then once you step into the $500+ range you'll find the sw9ve to feel more like driving a new hyundai instead of a new acura ($500+ range)

I seem to remember google searching "gun buyers guide" or some shit like that, that took me to a site where you could get the inside scoop and reviews of whatever you were looking at. A useful tool, otherwise we'd all be carrying Jimenez or high points.

bluerex · « **Reply #2 on:** May 03, 2009, 10:28:51 PM »

faggot

bryantaylor · « **Reply #3 on:** May 03, 2009, 10:55:31 PM »

what are your plans with the gun? range, carry, or what? if you just want a handgun and don't want to carry, get a hi-point. i love mine, it was dirt ass cheap, shoots great, has never malfunctions, and is so fucking heavy the recoil is super low. but don't plan on carrying it, its a big heavy bitch of a gun.

ghettoturbo · « **Reply #4 on:** May 03, 2009, 11:09:11 PM »

Quote from: bluerex on May 03, 2009, 10:28:51 PM

faggot

test it out for me, i only want real-world advice

Anyway, plans are just to take it to the range and also tuck it under my pillow to make my dreams sweet.

I dont know if I cant get a used one since I'm not sure a store would take a deposit on a used one. Orange County makes you prove youre buying a legit gun before they give you the handgun permit.

Stealth, I was actually reading about the sw9ve, some people said the trigger was very very heavy. I'm not looking to unload hundreds of rounds so I guess that shouldnt be an issue though. Doesnt it also not have a safety?

Towdogg · « **Reply #5 on:** May 03, 2009, 11:32:07 PM »

I'll tell you where to get any gun you want for cheap.....

BUT

You have to use it on Chris Harris.... :yes:

Toysrme · « **Reply #6 on:** May 03, 2009, 11:46:36 PM »

i think the quesiton can't be answered without you giving us more information.
why are you buying the gun? sport? self-defense?
if self defense, are we talking a gun you are comitted to carrying all the time, or a nightstand/stay in the car type of gun?
$300? probably going to be going to a gun shop to get a used gun in that price range. if you're very lucky you can get a well worn in gun. assuming you wind up with a used gun, be sure they let you take it out and fire it afew days to make sure it works (return/working policy) AND prefferably be a gun that has some type of lifetime warranty.

honestly, a 22LR pistol will be the best place to start. pistol shooting is not natural. you wont find many people that can simply walk up to a pistol as a novice and hit a target the size of a large man at 25'. ive told the story before but a long time friend of mine bought an HK USP .45 and hit the target twice in two clips worth of ammo from sub 30'. we grew up shooting rifles and clay shooting so... most data ive seen on pistol shooting says they occure at (i forget) 5-10 feet. but i wouldn't trust most people to put a bullet on the target from 10'+ without practice.

sooooooooo. my recommendation is for you to go buy someone's 22LR and if you can get to where you can hit a man sized target & not give up, save your money & buy another gun. that will give you a near inexhaustable supply of ammunition & practice.

Stealthmode · « **Reply #7 on:** May 04, 2009, 12:03:48 AM »

The trigger of the SW9VE takes more pull than most other guns, but the only people to recognize it are people who shoot other guns. With this being your first gun, you won't know the difference.

Oh, and only get a 22 if you plan on only shooting at the range for fun. Don't intend on it stopping anyone. I'd rather have a bomb pellet gun.

t_cel_t · « **Reply #8 on:** May 04, 2009, 12:28:51 AM »

get a rossi/taurus 357 mag, 6 rds of fury. shoot pussy .38 till you learn how to shoot then step up to manhood and get some 357 mags. new ~$320, used <$200

ghettoturbo · « **Reply #9 on:** May 04, 2009, 12:51:14 AM »

Quote from: Toysrme on May 03, 2009, 11:46:36 PM

i think the quesiton can't be answered without you giving us more information.
why are you buying the gun? sport? self-defense?
if self defense, are we talking a gun you are comitted to carrying all the time, or a nightstand/stay in the car type of gun?
$300? probably going to be going to a gun shop to get a used gun in that price range. if you're very lucky you can get a well worn in gun. assuming you wind up with a used gun, be sure they let you take it out and fire it afew days to make sure it works (return/working policy) AND prefferably be a gun that has some type of lifetime warranty.

The part about keeping it under my pillow was sarcasm, this thing will be intended for the range. Granted, if trouble comes knocking at my door I wont say "damn, but thats my range-only pistol", but I'm not looking for a hand-cannon that i cant shoot as a novice.

I'll be buying the gun at a local gun shop, most likely this big chain called Gander Mountain where i'm taking the safety course. I think I'm going to check out what the law/policy is concerning my permit and If i can put a deposit on a used gun since it seems my $300 aint gonna go far towards a new one. I dont mind buying used if they will let me, especially if it gets me into a better class of guns. The 300 isnt carved in stone, just something I had in the back of my mind.

Toysrme · « **Reply #10 on:** May 04, 2009, 01:02:55 AM »

S&W Sigma, Taurus Millemium Pro, CZ 100, Bersa Thunder, Taurus 24/7, Bersa MiniThunder,
All good and all found around $350-400. Probably all you'll find *brand* spaking new that has mostly quality to it.

Now we're not even talking revolvers or buying a $50-200 midnight special either!

Toysrme · « **Reply #11 on:** May 04, 2009, 01:13:23 AM »

just be sure you get a gun box, manuals, mags when you get something. possibly ammo too. youre in NC?
$400-450 imo right now where the industry is shooting for new mid-quality or ok (but not great) condition higher end guns. atleast down here that's the case.

seems like too many permits in north carolina.

ghettoturbo · « **Reply #12 on:** May 04, 2009, 07:07:38 AM »

Quote from: Toysrme on May 04, 2009, 01:13:23 AM

just be sure you get a gun box, manuals, mags when you get something. possibly ammo too. youre in NC?
$400-450 imo right now where the industry is shooting for new mid-quality or ok (but not great) condition higher end guns. atleast down here that's the case.

seems like too many permits in north carolina.

Orange County, NY

ryan89crx · « **Reply #13 on:** May 04, 2009, 07:41:48 AM »

Quote from: Stealthmode on May 03, 2009, 10:17:53 PM

Not sure there's anything in the range of $300 that you could consider a great buy, unless you find an "acceptable" gun used at a good price. Just as I did, I'd look at a Smith and Wesson SW9VE (9mm), or if you want the .40 cal, just change the 9 in the model # to 40.

The 9 (or 40) VE is Smith and Wessons best copy of a glock, and they actually got sued because of it. Anyway, it's a good starter gun, then once you step into the $500+ range you'll find the sw9ve to feel more like driving a new hyundai instead of a new acura ($500+ range)

I seem to remember google searching "gun buyers guide" or some shit like that, that took me to a site where you could get the inside scoop and reviews of whatever you were looking at. A useful tool, otherwise we'd all be carrying Jimenez or high points.

only problem is the 12lb trigger pull. fucking ridiculous. i sold mine and bought a Springfield XD40. excellent gun

jdmhatchracer94 · « **Reply #14 on:** May 04, 2009, 03:57:29 PM »

Dad bought a brand new taurus .40 fucking this broke after two clips dumped out. Sent it back to taurus and they have had it for three months now fuck that shit

AWDstylez · « **Reply #15 on:** May 04, 2009, 04:10:38 PM »

If it's a range gun then anything other than a .22 is a total waste of money. Get a reasonable quality .22lr that handles like a normal gun (that means not those gay ass Rugers), then go and practice, practice, practice, for nice and cheap.

Go buy some Remmington Vipers to keep in it when you're not at the range. Those will give you better muzzle energy than a .38spc for 1/10 of the price. Not something I'd trust, personally, but excellent for a .22lr.

Corey · « **Reply #16 on:** May 04, 2009, 04:14:15 PM »

seriously if your NOT going to carry it then get a .22lr gun. buying any larger caliber just for range shooting is retarded because the ammo is too expensive.

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #17 on:** May 04, 2009, 04:30:54 PM »

Quote from: Toysrme on May 04, 2009, 01:13:23 AM

just be sure you get a gun box, manuals, mags when you get something. possibly ammo too. youre in NC?
$400-450 imo right now where the industry is shooting for new mid-quality or ok (but not great) condition higher end guns. atleast down here that's the case.

seems like too many permits in north carolina.

I wasn't aware there were any permits in NC. All my gun owning friends are felons, or it's a drop gun because they are the old school southern mentality where guns are for killing a man who deserves it and none of the law's business.

On second thought, I'm pretty sure MR2Guru's guns are legit, but he's French and they are law abiding socialists like that.

Toysrme · « **Reply #18 on:** May 04, 2009, 04:44:47 PM »

friend had a P22 brand new, wouldn't reliably cycle anything he ever put in it & got rid of it. :\
im with corey, buy a quality 22LR for the range & plinking. just beware, it can be a chore to find a 100% reliable 22 semi-auto.
JD, NC seems to lwant a CCW and a permit to buy/sell/transfer a pistol per the generic law list sites.
http://www.nraila.org/GunLaws/

dear god NY? good fucking luck LoL

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #19 on:** May 04, 2009, 04:47:12 PM »

I'm less than an expert on guns. I don't need to own one. $:-\$

Toysrme · « **Reply #20 on:** May 04, 2009, 04:59:38 PM »

and im less than an experct on anything honda related, but i still shoot them both just like you do lol i own many because they're fun, i grew up with them & i inherited alot of them.

i carry because i like things to be an uneven playing field when shit hits the fan. ive got a badass 6'2 275lb ex-MLB, Army, uncle that doesn't need to carry. i also grew up with a 6'2 240lb MLB and watched a nigger my size stab him to death in the tummy when we were 18.
ive got nothing against busting a big guy in the face if i have too (when not carrying), but id rather have it and not need it.

it can't be said enough in these threads either. once you start carrying you give up any right you had to cause or end trouble. no more fighting, no more talking shit or being a jackass. you get in one fight and have a gun on you - you better shoot him dead cause you'll be face down on the ground with a gun in the back of your head facing a felony if you wanna hit a dude while you got a gun on you. its either be calm or shoot them dead.

Corey · « **Reply #21 on:** May 04, 2009, 05:08:26 PM »

Quote from: Toysrme on May 04, 2009, 04:59:38 PM

and im less than an experct on anything honda related, but i still shoot them both just like you do lol i own many because they're fun, i grew up with them & i inherited alot of them.

i carry because i like things to be an uneven playing field when shit hits the fan. ive got a badass 6'2 275lb ex-MLB, Army, uncle that doesn't need to carry. i also grew up with a 6'2 240lb MLB and watched a nigger my size stab him to death in the tummy when we were 18.
ive got nothing against busting a big guy in the face if i have too (when not carrying), but id rather have it and not need it.

it can't be said enough in these threads either. once you start carrying you give up any right you had to cause or end trouble. no more fighting, no more talking shit or being a jackass. you get in one fight and have a gun on you - you better shoot him dead cause you'll be face down on the ground with a gun in the back of your head facing a felony if you wanna hit a dude while you got a gun on you. its either be calm or shoot them dead.

hit that on the fucking head. thats why i stay away from people who cause drama.

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #22 on:** May 04, 2009, 05:09:15 PM »

Earth to Corey, what about that sweet CRX turbo kit install you just did?

SQ is the SQUAD · « **Reply #23 on:** May 04, 2009, 07:37:12 PM »

bersa thunder .380

Conceptz-X · « **Reply #24 on:** May 04, 2009, 08:00:58 PM »

Cobra's are cheap and from my little experience with them, reliable. Seem to have decent reviews. Paid $160 each for the 2 I have. Lifetime warranty.

http://www.cobrapistols.net/products.asp

AWDstylez · « **Reply #25 on:** May 04, 2009, 09:50:25 PM »

Quote from: Toysrme on May 04, 2009, 04:44:47 PM

friend had a P22 brand new, wouldn't reliably cycle anything he ever put in it & got rid of it. :\
im with corey, buy a quality 22LR for the range & plinking. just beware, it can be a chore to find a 100% reliable 22 semi-auto.

Don't shoot shit bulk ammo and you won't have a problem. All the retards buy the P22/Mosquito (it's the same gun internally), buy low power bulk junk that the gun was never designed to fire, and then go all over the internet and say they suck. Shoot high velocity ammo like the manual says to and you won't have a problem at all.

AWDstylez · « **Reply #26 on:** May 04, 2009, 09:57:39 PM »

Quote from: Joseph Davis on May 04, 2009, 05:09:15 PM

Earth to Corey, what about that sweet CRX turbo kit install you just did?

LOL

AWDstylez · « **Reply #27 on:** May 04, 2009, 09:58:26 PM »

Quote from: rawr on May 04, 2009, 09:56:59 PM

Quote from: AWDstylez on May 04, 2009, 09:50:25 PM
I love men.

And you can't do any fucking wheelies either. $:-\$

Wrong person.

AWDstylez · « **Reply #28 on:** May 04, 2009, 10:29:58 PM »

Quote from: rawr on May 04, 2009, 10:26:46 PM

Quote from: AWDstylez on May 04, 2009, 09:58:26 PM
Quote from: rawr on May 04, 2009, 09:56:59 PM
Quote from: AWDstylez on May 04, 2009, 09:50:25 PM
I love men.

And you can't do any fucking wheelies either. $:-\$

Wrong person.

wrong. Don't be givin' no body no koochie while I be locked up up state. I herd yous a down ass bitch.

I know exactly what you're refering to and not only am I not in that video, I didn't even shoot that video.

Corey · « **Reply #29 on:** May 05, 2009, 01:36:53 AM »

Quote from: Joseph Davis on May 04, 2009, 05:09:15 PM

Earth to Corey, what about that sweet CRX turbo kit install you just did?

which one?

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