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[Schister66]

Hey guys. I'm not a gun person...yet and i need some help and advice. I want to get something to start with and have someon money to blow. My buddy Andrew has an FN P45 and loves it. He is trying to convince me to get the gun he plans to get next, an FN Five-Seven. I like it, it feels nice, but for $1100, i wanted to check out my other options. For another $500, i can get an FN PS90. I found one the other day in a local gun store and fell in love with it. What do you guys think of it? I haven't shot one and dont know much about it...

[bryantaylor]

LOL @ AIG shirt

[Schister66]

Hey, i know...AIG this, AIG that, but you gotta love Man U regardless

[t_cel_t]

unless your rich your not going to be shooting it often, plus a semi auto version is just a waste, the round was meant to be fired full auto-thats the point of small, recoiless rounds. plus the civilian ammo is underpowered compared to leo/military. the 5 7 might be cool but again ammo cost is a big factor, just get a nice 1911 or whatever and be done with it.

[salesmonkey]

with that type of money you can buy a siaga 12 semi auto shot gun. you can buy a 50 cal hand gun with a scope mounted on it. you can buy a ar15, a bad ass ak47 exactly the way you want it. at this pawn shop i went to two days ago  they had a semi auto 10 gauge shot gun for 750 and siaga 12 for 999. or you could split the money and buy several guns.

you could pick up a sks/ak47 a decent shot gun and then pick up a hand gun as well. and be at 1200 give or take a couple hundred dollars depending on what or how fancy you wanted the guns. best thing to do is check out a couple gun shops and just look at everything and look at all the prices as well. dont just look at a certain brand or type of gun. unless you have your heart set on something. but for that type of money you can buy a bad ass single gun or multiple guns.

and think about it this way, if your buddy had a sks/ak47, ar15 or anything with a rifle round they would make your gun seem sissy. find a store the sells a mauser or russian mosin m91/30 they are only 80-150 and they shoot 8mm or 7.62x54 and im pretty sure after shooting something like that and then shooting a pistol round you will be baffled why you wanted to spend the money on something so small but then again different people like different things. also when looking at guns i like to consider at how easy it is to get ammo and prices. ar15 is pretty damn expensive with 7.62x39 is getting there as well but still cheaper and bigger. all small pistol rounds is about the same expect .22 .  shot gun shells are usually pretty reasonable if you look for sales or just get bird shot at wal mart. and then big revolver rounds very on what you get. the veriety of guns usually get overwelming and hard to decide what you want lol. i would try and look around for a good hour or two before making a decision. sometimes you look over a better deal or better gun

[Schister66]

EDIT** ^^ I will take that into consideration. I'm new to this whole gun thing and dont know my options. I'll have to check the above options out. Thanks

The reason that we were looking at getting the 5.7 x 28mm was because right now, 5.7 is cheaper than .45cal. The PS90 takes the same round...so if we were getting a Five-Seven anyway, we thought the addition of the PS90 would be a good one. We collect all the brass and reload anyway...

[salesmonkey]

cool, ive never fired one of those ps90's off but they look kinda cool for a smaller riffle. but looks like it would be more for home/self defense and fun. which is what i usually buy my guns for. and for family folks a smaller round would be good so you dont have it penatrating thru rooms. theres a picture of my sks sporter i picked up for 450 just a couple months ago. last year you could pick up a ak47 for the same price. this is basically just like a ak47 sense its adapted to take the same mags. and its also set up for a scope with calapsable stock.

i also enjoy a round that will destroy whatever im shooting. with these rounds you can penatrate and do some great damage. how many rounds do you usually go threw when you go out? i always wondered if people that reload get tired of picking up all there brass. i see these wierd fucks from this army surplus store come out to a target shooting spot and pick up all the brass so they can make belts and stuff out of them lol.

[Conceptz-X]

Check into the reviews of the firearm, then look at ammo prices and AVAILABILITY.  If it all fits your expectations, make the deal

If your just looking into tearing something a new ass hole and want a bad-ass rep, get a saiga 12 and a shitload of 00 buck and slugs.

[hatchboy]

cool, ive never fired one of those ps90's off but they look kinda cool for a smaller riffle. but looks like it would be more for home/self defense and fun. which is what i usually buy my guns for. and for family folks a smaller round would be good so you dont have it penatrating thru rooms. theres a picture of my sks sporter i picked up for 450 just a couple months ago. last year you could pick up a ak47 for the same price. this is basically just like a ak47 sense its adapted to take the same mags. and its also set up for a scope with calapsable stock.

i also enjoy a round that will destroy whatever im shooting. with these rounds you can penatrate and do some great damage. how many rounds do you usually go threw when you go out? i always wondered if people that reload get tired of picking up all there brass. i see these wierd fucks from this army surplus store come out to a target shooting spot and pick up all the brass so they can make belts and stuff out of them lol.

Is that a Columbia River Knife and tool m16 14sf?

[salesmonkey]

nah thats a knife picked up on sale at big 5, ft-tatical is what the knife reads on it. it flips open real nice and easy and has those two things sticking out that makes it easy to flip with your index finger. but i already broke it using it as a throwing knife lol

[hatchboy]

nah thats a knife picked up on sale at big 5, ft-tatical is what the knife reads on it. it flips open real nice and easy and has those two things sticking out that makes it easy to flip with your index finger. but i already broke it using it as a throwing knife lol

Eh i see. Does it have the dual lockout?

[salesmonkey]

its just got the standard lock that slides out as the blade is extended. not sure what a dual lockout is, but im guessing its cooler then what this one has. this was one of the easier sliding knives i have had though. i use to have a sweat benchmade knife that had the blade release lock. best knife i ever found untill my friend lost it. same friend lost this sweet machette when we went camping.

[Conceptz-X]

sounds like they are now owned by him unknown to you

[salesmonkey]

sounds like they are now owned by him unknown to you

he told me he would pay me for the knife he lost. exactly what i paid for it, which was nothing because i found it. now that was the bastard move lol. luckily hes my best friend or id most likely take a dump in his car.

[Conceptz-X]

Thats cool, I had a friend that lost some brand new oakley sunglasses (when M Frames were the shit)  Never got shit from him, funny thing was about a year later, I saw him wearing some that were damn close to what I had.

[AWDstylez]

The reason that we were looking at getting the 5.7 x 28mm was because right now, 5.7 is cheaper than .45cal.

wat

As stated already, the PS90 is fucking worthless as a semi-auto.  The 5.7x28 is nothing but a glorified .22 magnum.  The gun is not accurate at range, can't be fired prone (comfortably), and the round is grossly underpowered for... anything.

As a fun to shoot gun, yea it handles great and it'd be great for plinking... if the ammo wasn't so damn expensive.  The fact that the ammo is rare and exclusive is also an issue in a SHTF situation.

The way I see it, the short comings of the round itself and the insane price of both the Five-seven and the PS90 are NOT made up for by the weapons themselves.  They're novelty guns.  If you're looking for something to practice with, plink in the woods, carry, kill zombies, you have an infinite number of better choices.

For the record, if I had the money I'd buy a PS90 in a second, but that's because I've got my SHTF weapons covered already.

[Conceptz-X]

Just get a fucking AK-47/74  Ammo is all over, parts are plentiful, etc.  M16 would be ok as well. 

I'd be looking at shit that's plentiful now, not some rare goofy shit that you'll never be able to find parts for.

[AWDstylez]

M16 would be ok as well. 

A what?

[Conceptz-X]

M-16/AR-15

[AWDstylez]

M-16/AR-15

Call it what it is or you should like a retard.  M16 is select fire, AR15 is semi-auto.

[bigdaddyvtec]

Just get a fucking AK-47/74  Ammo is all over, parts are plentiful, etc.  M16 would be ok as well. 

I'd be looking at shit that's plentiful now, not some rare goofy shit that you'll never be able to find parts for.

Ak47... 7.62x39?

ammo is all over???


Prove it.

[QikEnuF]

Then what does a converted AR15 qualify as?  Stop being a nitwit.

[bigdaddyvtec]

cool, ive never fired one of those ps90's off but they look kinda cool for a smaller riffle. but looks like it would be more for home/self defense and fun. which is what i usually buy my guns for. and for family folks a smaller round would be good so you dont have it penatrating thru rooms. theres a picture of my sks sporter i picked up for 450 just a couple months ago. last year you could pick up a ak47 for the same price. this is basically just like a ak47 sense its adapted to take the same mags. and its also set up for a scope with calapsable stock.

i also enjoy a round that will destroy whatever im shooting. with these rounds you can penatrate and do some great damage. how many rounds do you usually go threw when you go out? i always wondered if people that reload get tired of picking up all there brass. i see these wierd fucks from this army surplus store come out to a target shooting spot and pick up all the brass so they can make belts and stuff out of them lol.

That stock looks fucking odd...

By the way thats a SKS not a 74.

THATS WHY IT LOOKS FUNNY... But it takes ak47 mags??? Interestin g. How do you  do that... SCOTT???

NEVERMIND




http://www.perfectunion.com/vb/showthread.php?t=53342

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[Corey]

Then what does a converted AR15 qualify as?  Stop being a nitwit.

it qualifies as a full auto ar15.

[LS1pwNzJ00]

cool, ive never fired one of those ps90's off but they look kinda cool for a smaller riffle. but looks like it would be more for home/self defense and fun. which is what i usually buy my guns for. and for family folks a smaller round would be good so you dont have it penatrating thru rooms. theres a picture of my sks sporter i picked up for 450 just a couple months ago. last year you could pick up a ak47 for the same price. this is basically just like a ak47 sense its adapted to take the same mags. and its also set up for a scope with calapsable stock.

i also enjoy a round that will destroy whatever im shooting. with these rounds you can penatrate and do some great damage. how many rounds do you usually go threw when you go out? i always wondered if people that reload get tired of picking up all there brass. i see these wierd fucks from this army surplus store come out to a target shooting spot and pick up all the brass so they can make belts and stuff out of them lol.

That stock looks fucking odd...

By the way thats a SKS not a 74.

THATS WHY IT LOOKS FUNNY... But it takes ak47 mags??? Interestin g. How do you  do that... SCOTT???

NEVERMIND




http://www.perfectunion.com/vb/showthread.php?t=53342

Not reccomended

SKS work best with their original 10rd magazines, converting it makes them finicky, some people have good luck with it but some have a lot of problems.  A sks would not be my goto shtf gun.

[Corey]

the ones that take ak47 mags arent conversions, those are norinco models that came from the factory like that. the ones with the 10rd internals are the ones that are finicky with the detach mag conversion, supposely tapco makes the most reliable ones.

[bigdaddyvtec]

my old sks always fed like shit with the original "duckbill" style magazines

[AWDstylez]

A sks would not be my goto shtf gun.

Not all of us are lucky enough to have legal AK47's.

[salesmonkey]

the ones that take ak47 mags arent conversions, those are norinco models that came from the factory like that. the ones with the 10rd internals are the ones that are finicky with the detach mag conversion, supposely tapco makes the most reliable ones.

ding ding, its SKS sporter, norinco made 1992+ i think is when they originally made them. its a sks BUT it takes ak47 mags drums whatever you could work in a ak47 will work in this sks. i was looking to buy a ak47 the last year or two but was cheap and didnt have money. and a couple months ago either everyone was out or the price was jacked up a extra 200+ dollars i bought this sporter for 450 with everything you see in the picture and a box of ammo. figuring at the time sks's where going for about that much i jumped on it. a equally ak47 is still 550+
ive shot tiny tweeties from tree tops a easy 250+feet with just the iron sights i am definitly enjoy the gun and feel i made a good decision in buying it. i DO have a normal sks norinco with the wood stock all original with the 10 round clip.

[salesmonkey]

my old sks always fed like shit with the original "duckbill" style magazines

the whole reason i wanted a ak47 and why i got this gun becuase it was manufactured right.

ive had a russian sks and i have my original norinco sks and niether of those liked shooting the 30 round clips they would like to jam up. i shoot a lot of rounds thru whatever i shoot and dont enjoy shit jamming up.