Topic: bigstuff3 software (Read 45993 times)

jdmhatchracer94 · « **on:** January 08, 2015, 09:05:46 PM »

anyone use this shit? trying to find a basemap for a bbc 427 fucking this is driving me nuts. No one in my area has even heard of this

dvst8r · « **Reply #1 on:** January 08, 2015, 09:21:09 PM »

Yellow Bullet or JD.

92CXyD · « **Reply #2 on:** January 09, 2015, 12:10:42 AM »

First time hearing of this software.

jdmhatchracer94 · « **Reply #3 on:** January 09, 2015, 12:19:51 PM »

Daspoop was talking to me a while ago about it

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #4 on:** January 09, 2015, 12:48:49 PM »

Basemap? Make your own basemap. Duh.

FYI you haven't stated anything remotely relevant to making a basemap for any standalone.

jdmhatchracer94 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 09, 2015, 04:10:46 PM »

I know was just seeing if anyone had used it.

BBC 496
8 42lb injectors
Dyers 871-2
8.8:1 comp I believe
7al-2
Crank trigger

That about all I know

Ntrain2k · « **Reply #6 on:** January 09, 2015, 04:57:22 PM »

I'm thinking that isn't going to be anywhere near enough injector unless you are only wanting to make 550 crank hp or so.

jdmhatchracer94 · « **Reply #7 on:** January 09, 2015, 11:10:04 PM »

make a long story short.

had a 16 injector bds dfi on it
craig at bds screwed me with a 8 injector bs3 system tells me to put 2 injectors to each clip
never ran since
googled injector # and all I find is lucas 164cc injectors
bs3 says $1200 to upgrade to a 16 injector system
run me around $600 for a new plate and 900cc's injector

I just want to here it run so I know it is at least functional

ratcityrex · « **Reply #8 on:** January 10, 2015, 12:19:56 PM »

Or scrap all your ems shit. Sell your bs3 on ls1 tech, sell your injectors, buy a set of 8 900cc injectors from Hiprofile, and go with megasquirt. You will probably come out with some cash at the end too.

Ntrain2k · « **Reply #9 on:** January 10, 2015, 03:52:19 PM »

Quote from: ratcityrex on January 10, 2015, 12:19:56 PM

Or scrap all your ems shit. Sell your bs3 on ls1 tech, sell your injectors, buy a set of 8 900cc injectors from Hiprofile, and go with megasquirt. You will probably come out with some cash at the end too.

^this^

jdmhatchracer94 · « **Reply #10 on:** January 10, 2015, 03:56:32 PM »

Though about selling the bs3 and going fast xfi

dvst8r · « **Reply #11 on:** January 10, 2015, 07:57:40 PM »

Quote from: jdmhatchracer94 on January 10, 2015, 03:56:32 PM

Though about selling the bs3 and going fast xfi

That is either a lateral step or a step back depending on how you look at it.

My vote would either be MS3 or FT500 if you want to spend some money.

jdmhatchracer94 · « **Reply #12 on:** January 11, 2015, 04:48:51 PM »

Just been reading and the stuff I found says the xfi is more used friendly for idiots like me

dvst8r · « **Reply #13 on:** January 11, 2015, 08:18:54 PM »

Quote from: jdmhatchracer94 on January 11, 2015, 04:48:51 PM

Just been reading and the stuff I found says the xfi is more used friendly for idiots like me

If you want that the undisputed easy and great tech support is Holley.

jdmhatchracer94 · « **Reply #14 on:** January 11, 2015, 08:53:38 PM »

so just went through and found I have 32lbs injectors 349cc/mm I guess but bs3 instruction have me confused as to what to enter in for primary fuel 349x8= 2792? According to bs3 instructions they say a 177lbs injector is 1770cc each unsure what is correct but seems like I am getting a good amout of fuel all injectors are wet or something with the ignition not firing. What would me a good plug gap for this thing I just checked one and it around .047? kinda big for 12psi?

ratcityrex · « **Reply #15 on:** January 11, 2015, 11:41:44 PM »

.047 is pretty large. I would start around the .035 and see how it idles. I would imagine as long as you don't have some china pos coil it should still idle at .047

What do you have your base fuel pressure set at? How old is your fuel? Is your tps set? Post up some pics and a full list of mods so we can help diagnosis it. Need more info.

jdmhatchracer94 · « **Reply #16 on:** January 11, 2015, 11:49:17 PM »

45psi fuel new 93 tps set correctly it now sounds like like no fuel mod list is above

ratcityrex · « **Reply #17 on:** January 12, 2015, 12:12:45 AM »

What's your ignition setup? What's your base timing set at?

jdmhatchracer94 · « **Reply #18 on:** January 12, 2015, 12:31:05 AM »

msd trigger 7al-2 Mallory race coil taylor 8.5 wires ngk plugs Base timing ha no clue. Drunk pops ripped everything apart with out checking where shit was set no cam card nothing

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #19 on:** January 12, 2015, 05:01:54 PM »

XFI 2.0 is a lateral step or an upgrade from BS3, actually. It is no easier nor more difficult than BS3 - same shit, same designer, some overhaul by FAST after Meaney left.

Regular 4 tooth magnetic crank trigger? Should be easy peasy. I've never set up a trigger for BS3 but $ to doughnuts it's the same as XFI. If you are in a pinch with setup, call Precision/PTE and say *your customer* purchased the BS3 from them and you have the honor of sorting it and making it run. They are pretty good about shooting you in the right direction at that point, although it's been some years since I've done that.

Holley HP/Dominator is the best solution if you want to ditch BS3... but, BS3 is pretty vanilla and simple, if you can't figure it out I do not think you will do any better with a different flavor.

jdmhatchracer94 · « **Reply #20 on:** January 12, 2015, 10:56:08 PM »

Ya 4 mag pick up. That's kinda my though if I ditch it would I even know how to work the other. My big problem is getting the injectors set up not sure if I input the size for one injector or all 8 combined?

ratcityrex · « **Reply #21 on:** January 12, 2015, 11:25:40 PM »

Fuck it try both. Not gonna do much but flood the motor.

jdmhatchracer94 · « **Reply #22 on:** January 13, 2015, 12:06:11 AM »

Have tried both ways and nothing

jeremy_nash · « **Reply #23 on:** January 14, 2015, 10:54:56 PM »

Spray carb cleaner in throttle body, did it start? If not, spark/timing related.

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #24 on:** January 15, 2015, 02:32:39 PM »

Okay, you are over complicating it. Back to basics.

Fuel, fire, or compression? What ya missing?

jdmhatchracer94 · « **Reply #25 on:** January 15, 2015, 08:07:05 PM »

Pretty sure fuel have fire check comp all good. If I use start fluid it will fire for a sec them nothing. Will not start at all with out fluid.

ratcityrex · « **Reply #26 on:** January 15, 2015, 10:29:08 PM »

So its fuel. Let's see a screen shot of what your fuel map looks like.

Ntrain2k · « **Reply #27 on:** January 16, 2015, 07:03:51 AM »

Maybe a vid of when it tries to fire up also.

jdmhatchracer94 · « **Reply #28 on:** January 16, 2015, 12:26:23 PM »

See what I can do

HiProfile · « **Reply #29 on:** January 16, 2015, 12:51:58 PM »

Decrease the size of the injectors in the EMS, or increase the fuel map, by 10-20% per try. Once it begins to start, go one-two more steps then warm it up and log AFR's.

Just don't constantly try the starting fluid. It tends to induce heavy knocking from a higher burn rate and much lower auto-ignition temp (or something like that).

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